Is open-source dead?
there will still be value in human made artbut no value at all in human programming funny how that went
Most FOSS projects are just painfully unproductive.But jeets slopping up black boxes that will inevitably break or bug out in weird ways is also not the solution.
>>108889183>wants a feature>crickets>vibecodes it himself>explains how to do itJudging from your picture, it's more alive now than back when first asked for the feature
>>108889208>there will still be value in human made artyou mean like this real Monet painting that someone posted as AI and everyone agreed with him?
>>108889274you can impress people with simple things like playing guitar, painting, etc, besides being satisfactory hobbies they can also be social hobbiesprogramming will never be able to do this, and now there isn't even a comercial value to it
>>108889274i don't get why you think lying to people and deceiving them is a marker of success.isn't that just a bad thing? your entire post is a net negative. you want there to be no value in human made art? why? i'm assuming what you'll answer to that is>no I'm saying there is no value to human art already, time for you to face reality snailcatbasically. but, value from art is: how people feel, what they think, and what they do after seeing, reading or hearing it. so, there will always be value in art, unless we turn into unthinking, unfeeling, undoing golems. which I would argue many people are, and thats why they can look at AI stuff and somehow feel anything except mild revulsion or bafflement.
>>108889345>i don't get why you think lying to people and deceiving them is a marker of success.he's brown
>>108889345It's how shilling in a declining world looks like: It's always negative. Focus on negativity.Look at OP and his screenshot:>Is open-source dead?Given the exact same screenshot, you could also write:>Will AI make OpenSource take strive?Because it's literally an AI implementing an OpenSource feature that nobody bothered to do.It's a positive thing. In that specific instance, AI isn't replacing anything or anyone and isn't producing maintenance burden for the devs (there is no merge request with 1k+ lines of slop). It's a good thing. Nobody is losing here, it's added value.But nope... we can't focus on that... instead lets create the 100th thread about how everybody will end up unemployed in a tent city with a fentanyl addiction because of AI slop, while lesser intelligent vibe coders will take over!Bonus points if it's done in an overly aggressive was with some obvious lies sprinkled in.This only works in a declining pessimist society.If you look at China, which is lifting people out of poverty and where people today do better than they did a decade ago and far better than their ancestors... you don't get this negative passive aggressive doom shilling.Chinese Social Media doesn't have that. They focus on positivity.
>>108890937honestly I'm inclined to agree. this is a seemingly dead society. unserious. immoral. no principle at all. not even a semblance of them, politicians for example don't even really pretend to be doing a 'good thing', they just promise more and easier consumption for anyone who votes for them.at work, it's a totally morally vacuous environment. no one even thinks about it let alone says anything along the lines of '... and the things we're doing here will make people's lives better.' it's just '...leveraging this will allow us to compete with company [x]'and fucking meanwhile what company [x] is doing is actively throwing a wrench in people's day to day, and making a killing off of it. now we can do it too! AWESOME.providing real value has been utterly abstracted, refiled, disconnected and deleted from all obligations of every given system or organization.
>>108889274why the fuck was richard going on about spacing/proportion? LOL
>>108889315>>108889274Freelancing to clean up slop projects.
>>108889183I'm fine with AI speeding up coding. I'm not fine with all the binary blobs that nobody will verify. Someone might insert hundreds of backdoors on Claudio tomorrow and nobody will see it inserting that because who will read thousands of lines?, just check for errors and release it right? Malware targeting AI is more likely than ever to be the future. I might be paranoid but I don't think I'm the only one scared of leaving these bots to have my information or using their code.
>>108892208ask claude to review for backdoors
>>108892234Ask the AI with malware to check for malware?
>>108889183where are the redditors screaming about saying slave?
>>108893798nobody cares about that shit, you got psyoped by lunduke
>>108889183Does the code actually work?
>>108889183Talk is cheap. Show me the code.
>>108893831my employer has a static analyzer that yells at me for using slave in variable names
>>108889183It shouldn't be so difficult for a human to make this relatively simple change if the code was better designed. An AI slopping a feature in with brute force doesn't fix the underlying issue.
>>108892299Then ask both Deepseek and Cloud.The Chinese aren't going to hide a US government backdoor and vice versa. It's harder to hide backdoors now, than it was before, when you just had to order one of your RedHat employees to do.This is one of the 100% positive things AI can be used for. The recently discovered backdoors in Linux would have never been found otherwise.The person looking for them knew what he was looking for, he knew that page cache gets exposed via a method in those crypto libraries and that it's a possible scenario... but finding out where it is, would have taken multiple people multiple months and nobody would have paid for that and nobody would have invested all that time.... except maybe three-letter-agencies, but those would have kept it to themselves.This was the prompt that found copy-fail:> This is the linux crypto/ subsystem. Please examine all codepaths reachable from userspace syscalls. Note one key observation: splice() can deliver page-cache references of read-only files (including setuid binaries) to crypto TX scatterlists.AI was used as an extended Ctrl-F.
>>108889183>yet another tiling wmThe fact there's 10 billion of these things seems to indicate the exact opposite of your idea.Consider killing yourself.
>>108893951 (Me)And none of the AI shills will focus on that positive thing.Instead they will write:>Linux is fucking dead! AI destroyed it! If you are still on Linux, you will fucking drop down with a stroke and slowly bleed out in agony!Because that is what our society is about now.Improvements are just by accident. An adverse event while trying to screw over someone else.If you improve yourself, you only do it in order to crush someone else. Improvement for the sake of it, to make the world better, is not a thing in the declining (((West))).
>>108890937Based. Sadly, no one bothers to think anymore.
>>108889208"Human made" is just a bullshit term for "I refuse to lower prices". If a robot can create a product adored by thousands it means humans must step up their game or just gtfo from the market.You can't have both human laziness AND high prices.
>>108894305Art forgery is a century old profession and they produce works so close to the original, that only the most autistic professionals with tools can spot it. Did art became worthless 600 years ago because of this?You shills don't make any sense. Your arguments are so badly thought through, that an elementary school pupil could BTFO you... or one of your own chatbots.But that is not what it is about. It is about negativity, about jerking off to the thought of others doing worse than you do. It's what you see people in war do, where they suffer and in exchange want everyone else to suffer even more. They don't worry about whether or not it is the truth. The cope of "misery to everyone else soon!".
>>108893853>>108893867it compiles with 13 errors
>>108891699Because the AI generated image was in Monet's style, and perhaps Money followed such composition rules and to be pertinent to the conversation.
>>108894439>Did art became worthless 600 years ago because of this?Could a human forgery crank out a million pieces of artwork in a day? The answer is no because they are slow as shit. AI does not have that problem because it is faster than a human. And thus has fewer limitations.
>>108894973It still managed to get you dozens of copies a day easily. Given that a very large city had 500 inhabitants, that's quite a lot more than you'd ever need and is in fact comparable to being able to generated millions of them today in a day.
>>108889183>people being retards>open-source is deadas always, op is a fag
>>108894990Most people want to use AI art because it brings their ideas to life. The only other option before the tech existed was to commission an artist, but that was the expensive part. Use your brain and realize why people don't actually care if painting was made by a machine or a real person.Dealing with robots is stress free and you are more likely to get the result you want.A human artist or even a human forger could randomly drop dead tomorrow and now your art commission is gone too.AI eliminates all of that hassle.
>>108889183 >>108889208Only one suffering from this are proprietary software and those who create proprietary software. Open source benefits from AI and there has to be real people to check and modify the code which is not possible with proprietary code.
>>108895034Backpedal harder. You've almost managed to liftoff, soon you'll get to the moon!
>>108895051No backpedalling. It's a fact that AI has wiped out freelancing.
>>108895084Yes, you're doing it! What a rocket! SpaceX is getting real jealous right now!
not at all; the golden age of FOSS is about to begin.
>>108895098You will be replaced.
>>108894815Where is it?
>>108889183Artists won, programmer troons lost
>>108889183Because of anti-AI activists? Maybe, look what happened with GZDoom>anti-AI activists chimp out at some small vibecoded portion of an update>try to usurp the project, immediately plaster it with gay and tranny bullshit because the anti-AI activist crowd overlaps significantly with transgendersYou just have to hold firm and pay no attention to the luddites.
>>108889183It was never really alive. Only unemployed people who have nothing to do (academia students as wel) have any interest in that in a meaningful way, but "personnel churn" is very real, they never get anything done, that's why most open source sucks.Other part of it being corpos just using shit for free instead of having contracts with random software companies for this and that or instead of doing their own thing in an isolated way.Open source in an idea that was never meant to be materialized. You use corpo shit, there's not a single person among people maintaining any actualy important open source project who's not a corpo. Not a single person. Those who seem like they are not affiliated are just feds or fsb or chinks planting backdoors.Open source software is the most compromised kind of software. They bribe devs to include open source deps in their projects. Because those are backdoors.
>>108895224Corpo shit depends on FOSS more than the opposite.
>>108889183if the claim is true why would open-source be dead? it would be very much alive as it could more easily keep up with proprietary software.
>>108891699he's 100% right. it looks like shit and the perspective is all fucked up, too.are we supposed to worship something just because it was made by a famous person?
>>108895233You got it backwards. All open source is basically corpo funded and corpo developed. The rest are unfinished student projects.
>>108895382Linux was an unfinished student project when it was first made available.
>>108890937>Chinese social media focuses on positivityBecause there are consequences to posting negative things about the government or corporations.
>>108889183I don't get it, how is generating code bad for open source?Also,>2024???>>108893951>recently discovered backdoors in LinuxA vulnerability is not necessarily s backdoor, you dumb ass
This pic is so obnoxious, if you have the feature and it works open the PR. Let the project author reject it, at least the branch is now open for anyone else who wants it.
>>108889183You're totally looking at this the wrong way. It is as alive as ever. Best example in my mind is CorridorKey. Vibe coded, taken to discord and to devs, open sourced, fixed the slop, now the discord and github is full of the right people in that space all interested in making it better.
>>108889243ThisContributions and project maintainence should be through the roof>Anti KI crowdOh well
>>108895335>it's slop>it's AI but looks pretty similar in certain aspects>it's not AI but it's not like it was one of his better works>ok it's not slop but it's still objectively bad (YOU ARE HERE)>actually [artist] was never good anyways
>>108889183That in theory should help create better Linux programs, even DE's. Better for small projects and projects that are alienated by big corpo like xlibre. It's bad thing for entities like RH but great thing for distributions like Artix for example.
>>108898557have they managed to vibe-code themselves thumbnails in the file picker
>>108889183yes.
>>108890937The word you’re looking for is demoralization.And yes it’s been deployed here since forever.
>>108892208Problem is people are abusing it to send bug reports and "fixes" to software devs. A lot of FOSS projects are getting bogged down now with a fuckload of AI generated patches and feature requests that are so well written that they're hard to pick out from actual human contributors.
>>108895400Exactly. Now it's corpo shit.So it's either broken abandonware or corpo shit. That's your open source.
>>108901505nah, demoralization wants you to give up and become a nihilistic doomer:>all is over, don't resist, its too latemeanwhile this here is:>its over for them, join us, we are the winners and will crush themThey don't want you to give up, they want you to join their side to be their servant. Think about how the covid vaxtards got radicalized to fight and attack the unvaxxed.A demoralized person isn't going to join the army to die for Israel.A demoralized person isn't going to wageslave harder for the corpos to fight the economic war against those Chinks.
>>108889243>for anyone interested>doesn't put up a PR>doesn't even share code snippetsdenvercoder9-tier fuckwit
>>108902149Yikes, I better go install Windows 11 ASAP!
>>108902614That's also corpo shit, hello?
>>108889183Nah, I use AI to streamline bullshit I am too busy to deal with. If it's mundane and a fix ain't breaking the project, we are gucci. Lucky me, I only get a troubleshoot ticket once a week and I can fix it on the spot. (reddit space)That said, the dev can decide whether or not to implement AI, especially for FOSS projects and can implement the AI code or deny it as they please.
>>108902606>doesn't put up a PRnobody benefits from a 5000 lines AI slop PR.If he works for him and his specific usecase, that's cool and alright.
>>108902149>OpenSource development gets faster and is faster than ever>any private person can create whatever he likes>THIS IS BAD! GIVE UP, ITS FUCKING OVER, INSTALL WINDOWS RIGHT NOW. PROPRIATERY GARBAGE, THAT CAN BE REPALCED BY A SINGLE AI PROMPT, WONIt just doesn't make ans sense.
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