/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsTask Failed Successfully Edition>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:https://rentry.co/st-backdoorThe StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.>NewsAlibaba releases Qwen 3.7 Max https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.7xAI releases Grok 4.3: https://docs.x.ai/developers/models/grok-4.3DeepSeek releases V4 Pro and V4 Flash: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/OpenAI releases GPT 5.5: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.ai - Beginning on the 15th of May, Chub will start banning characters, lorebooks, presets, and stages involving individuals that are, or "appear to be," under the age of 18.https://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/https://archive.cardbox.moe/https://botbooru.com/>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comGrok: https://docs.x.ai/overviewLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesLog reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r>Previous Thread>>108884934
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sex with pokemon
the two biggest issues with ds4 pro and flash right now:1. have real trouble accepting changes to instructions. will acknowledge change, but continue doing just doing the wrong thing until context is completely wiped2. keeping tracking of events over longer time frames. they'll start mixing up who was doing what. not so much hallucinations as lacking as identities bleeding into each other.these aren't big problems for short chats, but for something that's meant to run for a full day they can get very annoying. all this happens even under 100k context.also both models continue to be very lazy and have no desires to do things on their own. given 10 automated prompts that say basically:>you can do anything you want, here's the folder you work in:8/10 prompts will result in the model choosing to do literally nothing.
I like the fact that the new Mino proxy has scuffed Sonnet back, but it seems even worse than the version we had before.
>>108894591Where?
>>108894585>stateless machine struggles with state-based informationstop relying on big context and start using trackers and event flags that ping lorebooks, this is a universal problem between every model due to the helpless nature of these things
>ask writer's assistant card to adversarially critique my plot>it can't even do it, gives up and says it's good enough after 50s of thinkingthis is the power of AO3
>>108894585>>108894610In your opinions, what's that useable context size for DS 4 Pro? I used to set this to 30K on V3.2. I've yet to see a long benchmark guidance on V4.
>>108894591Link?
>>108894610it is not a problem for 5.5 and current sonnet/opus over a full 200k window with the exact same set up. there are no lorebooks, just evolving system prompts by way of injected memories - the session then just runs for 24 hours before an overnight reset processes the day's memories and starts a new chat.there's something not right with ds4 - my layperson's guess would be something to do with the attention mechanism.>>108894726i haven't managed to run over 200k, but my sessions are light work - hard to really measure 'performance' for me, but the problems i see are present from quite early on.
>>108894726lower the better, i would never trust a non-anthropic model to keep their steering straight after 15k and you'll start noticing bumps in the road as early as 10k with the majority of them
>non-anthropicnice try sharteen but all modern models can operate under 40k context just fine
nta but that's delusional, I keep my context at 16k and even then you can notice the degradation with 3.2
>>108894756your definition of fine is questionable
Why are the jeetys keep trying to shill their slop models as good when anyone who isn't a jeety only use Opus and anthropic models
>>108894807why is diet console war shit your only personality
>>108894819Why is editing shit and getting killed by trains your only personality
>editingUH OH BROWN ESL TROON ALERTUH OH BROWN ESL TROON ALERTUH OH BROWN ESL TROON ALERT
>>108894833>SAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR YOU SAID EDITING SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, it's FUMING now...
>>108894826>editing shitit's really fun taking random poopmakie cards from chub and polishing them up
>>108894750I just went back and looked. v3.2 chat (non reasoning) was only good to ~10K tokens. I ran v3.2 reasoning to 16K with no issues over fairly long RP. I remember the chat vs reasoning degradation was bad enough I permanently stopped using chat. >>108894746>managed to run over 200kThings like Claude Code, I imagine, must be using a substantial context size.
>>108894542Whatever anon posted up his conversion card; I really liked the concept here so I've stolen it and now reworking it for a similar setting. I playtested the original through several rounds, then started cutting down the main description. 1700->1000. It's still too verbose IMHO but works and I'll probably just leave it at that. I'm still tweaking it a bit, adding a lorebook for some random elements, and will post it next week when I'm done.
>>108894870for coding tasks yes, it's easy to churn through 200k pretty fast and both anthro and oai's models barely degrade and compaction, esp oai's, makes the transition to the next chat basically seamless. i don't trust the longer ctx lengths they offer.if i do give ds a coding task it fumbles and burns through context much faster than other models. but like i said, the set up i'm running it in isn't particularly demanding - it could potentially use a lot more ctx but ds just refuses to do stuff on its own.gpt is interesting because it almost accounted for this behaviour and set up documents it uses to keep adding new ideas to, self-directed work checklists etc that model is a bit reluctant to do stuff, but for different reasons than ds4.regardless, running these things like this is fun. like actually interesting tamagotchi.
>>108894934I've had zero issues using DS with CC to both write and modify existing codebase, but I've refused to use (pay for) OAI or Anthropic, so I can't compare. My projects have all been smaller and DS has never failed to point where I'm left thinking I need to switch to a new model.
>>108894591still better than the alternatives
>>108895065i would describe ds4 as serviceable for coding tasks, but the different with something like 5.5 is noticeable. ds4 reminds me a bit of flash 3, which was the first model i used in a harness back in december.it stumbles a bit, has some problems with tools calls - might be a consequence of them not having a public harness because early on both anthro and oai benefitted from training on their own harnesses (doesn't matter much at all now).switching from gemini to codex was night and day - codex felt like, and 5.5 still does, feel machine-like in the way it works. no issues with tools, manages its context well, just gathers shit up front, and executes once and usually doesn't have to go back to fix anything. don't get me wrong, it'll do retarded shit (very defensive, redundant functions. over-efficient to a fault where these days it won't read full files, and end up duplicating shit, not even elsewhere in the codebase, but further down the same file). but slop is high quality and still works. do still have to peek at the code on all these things tho if you actually want to maintain something that's larger.
>>108894742>>108894606Kys
>>108894591There is no new Mino proxy>>108895132no u kys faggot, don't waste our time
>>108895197stop gatekeeping
there will never be a new mino proxydont even bother falling for it
Is Risu ai better than chub? I'm new to this and I just finished gooning to some bots in chub free tier, but risu seems to have more options and choices in the cards. Might pay for that if it is worth it.
finding out GLM loves the word codependent
Where can I find people talking about the interactions instead of the hardware? I'm trying to work out that side of things. Yes, I know they're inseparable.
>find interesting card>its all "hhdfjd" + "dfisdjfkd" garbageDon't models get fucky with cards that have that type of descriptions?
>>108895425>>>/vg/aicg is more about the interactions, while the /g/ thread is more about the technical side.
K2.6 just spent a minute and half the token budget thinking about how 3 dicks go into 2 holes.
how do you put a square dick into a round holeask your ai this
>>108895540why is it so dumb
hey guys i came from another board can someone explain me what proxy really means i want to... proxy my deepseek or wahtever that means
>>108895584do you use sillytavern?
>>108895621Yep, i'm using it right now.
>>108895633then stop
>>108895633look up deeeeply seeeeking in the archies and you will figure it out
>>108895637well. what should i use then?>>108895640will look into it, thanks.
cardbox archive MOGS chub and botbooru
>>108895540It does that a lot. It likes to overthink. Though I guess it could make it perfect for "debugging" prompts or defs.If there's any incoherency or vague stuff in your defs or the context so far, it will find it and write a thesis about how best to handle it. Then, when you edit those out, it will find the next one to obsess over.It's the only model I've bothered to swap to custom source in ST just so that I could turn thinking off properly. Is it actually dumber because of it? Not noticeably. Does it waste 70% less tokens now? You bet it does.Only real downside is that the 3k of think wanking before it got to actual writing could be making the swipes more varied since it's like a "free RNG" element.Either way, I stopped using it because while I like the style and freedom, with or without thinking it's a little bit too "dum" with stuff that's not beadbreaking sex.
ruby's pink and white striped panties...
>>108895662>It's the only model I've bothered to swap to custom source in ST just so that I could turn thinking off properly. Uh? If I do "Request model reasoning" off and "Reasoning Effort" minimum it doesn't think at all, is that messing up something else?>Either way, I stopped using it because while I like the style and freedom, with or without thinking it's a little bit too "dum" with stuff that's not beadbreaking sex.what do you use instead?
>>108895675kimi without thinking will handle long context a lot worse, that's one thing. kimi without thinking forces temp at 0.6, meaning there's less variance between swipes. but that's about it from my use case.
>>108895640that shit gives me CSRF error no matter what I do, it's maddening
>>108895685even if you clear cookies or go in incognito mode?
>>108895690yeah, cookies, site data, with different vpns on or off, incognito on or off
>>108895685>>108895694use hf space and not huggingface spaces
>>108895640i'm waiting in the... user token thingy, how do i even use this after i get the token
>>108895685>>108895694works on my machine
>>108895701yeah that works, thank fucking godwhat a weird quirk
Here we go lads. If you think Mythos or 5.5 is impressive...
>>108895675>"Request model reasoning" off and "Reasoning Effort" minimum it doesn't think at all, is that messing up something else?The first one only changes whether you get to see the reasoning in/above the message, the other isn't supported by that model.If you want to gut the thinking, you need to specify it before the prompt. Depending on what tool you use and where you are getting your Kimi, there might be different ways to do that. Since I'm just using it through OR on ST, that means changing the Completion Source to Custom and then putting the default endpoint for OR, choosing the model from the list, putting in the key and clicking additional parameters to add:provider: { allow_fallbacks: false, order: [ 'NAME OF YOUR PROVIDER HERE' ] }"reasoning": { "enabled": false }into the first textbox. The first is so that you can specify what provider you want (so you can save money with caching and pick something that's not slow or quantised to shit) - without it OR will just pick whatever for you and keep changing them. The other is what actually turns off the thinking for this model.>what do you use instead?GLM 5.1, bit smarter (at least until the story gets long) and keeps thinking short all on its own, but isn't as smutty/wild if you don't tell it to (or don't poison the context with it).
>>108895734dipsy funding groundbreaking research that will lead to good local models in the futurekino
>>108895683In my experience Kimi doesn't like long context either way and the temp on it isn't like Claude where you want it as close as possible to 1 (or more if it was possible). Though I guess it depends on what you consider long. I generally abort or summarise once I start the model looping or getting basic (if small) stuff wrong, which happens a lot sooner on the chink models than I'm used to with "SOTAss".Usually it starts with very minor stuff, so you could just edit it and keep going, but I'm too lazy for that and I want the slop to just work.
>>1088957031) open sillytavern2) click on the plug icon on the top bar, second from the left.3) set api completion to chat completion if it isn't already4) set chat completion source to deepseek5) go to the reverse proxy settings6) put in the deeeply seeking url found on the main page underneath "endpoints. it ends in /proxy/deepseek" in the proxy url settings7) put the generated user token in the proxy password8) hit connectit should connect. then pick your model, though you have no reason to use v4 flash over pro.
>>108895773thanks, i'm using it now, i feel like the... proxy thingy is a bit laggy, takes some time for the bot to reply, it's normal? right?
>>108895781yes. you're not the only one using it, but at least you're eating good now. enjoy
>>108895785Thanks anon, i do have deepseek pro but it eats way too much token and im not that rich.
how do i use gpt image 2 from a proxyis it the openai endpoint?
>>108895805the proxy has to actually support it, and that means it either has to support the /image/ endpoint or the /responses/ endpoint. if it only has chat completion support, you can't use it
>>108895744>"reasoning": { "enabled": false }Isn't it "thinking": {"type": "disabled"}?https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/api/chat#body-one-of-0-thinkingmaybe there is some parameter translation going in ST or ORregardless, the way I've been doing it skips thinking entirely too, it starts outputting immediately.
>smol added qwen support>but not gpt image 2 supports-smol-sama prease...
''you're too nice, most people...'' ah shut the fuck up
Guys what Ai is the best for coding
>>108895814Yeah, I think I took it from some OR resource and since it was working, I haven't looked further. Hence why I mentioned that it might be different if you're getting your Kimi elsewhere (directly, for example). OR also claims that you can put the effort parameter there too and set it to none (which I don't think is mapped in ST's UI, at least in the version I'm using), suggesting that there are a few ways to skip the reasoning step.>regardless, the way I've been doing it skips thinking entirely too, it starts outputting immediately.As long as it works and it's not requiring an 8k budget per message just so that if can fit the actual reply in there, it's all good.
>>108894550Oh, you're interested in my Gardewife card? It's not finished yet, calm down.
>>108895864claude opus 4.7, followed by gpt 5.5, followed by a grand canyon sized gap, followed by the rest of the herd
>>108895864Wrong general, you want /vcg/. Remember to pretend you aren't Indian or they'll dogpile you saar.
>>108895890This nigga is lying hard and probably on Dario's payroll. The proper ordering is:>GPT 5.5>Kimi 2.6>Opus 4.6>Sonnet 4.6>Opus 4.7>Whatever Gemini is doing>Power gap>Apparently Grok is down here somewhere>The rest
I have never understood why anyone here would care about the in-house tests and competitions.I use these things to live out impossible fantasies and adventures. I don't give a shit how good it is as turning jeetbabble into a poorly made code.
>>108895901GPT is fucking garbage lol
>>108894542https://botbooru.com/character/29030Weird artist girl. Inspired by https://x.com/LilAtole, it's her sona that I based it on. She wants to do the stuff she draws. Last two greetings involve...cheating? Kind of?1. She wants to test out her new sex toy on you. This is different from just hooking up.2. Streamer sim. Suggest stuff for her to draw and flirt with her. Or fuck her on stream maybe?3. She's about to step on you wearing stirrup thigh highs. Lube feels weird.4. DM simulator. Send her a message.5. Cheating? She wants (You) to record her sucking your dick so she can send it to another guy.6. NTR? She sent (You) the video and now she's waiting for your reaction [she wants (You) to fuck her too]
When is coming back
>>108895950when merkava refills
>>108895950what is that? a proxy?
>>108895979probably riftai
>>108895773hey, what's the maximum... context size response length allowed in this one? i don't want to fuck up the proxy or take advantage of it, but i'm just curious.
>>108896083you'll have to find out for yourself. normally, if there's a limit, it'll be on the main page. but if there isn't one, maybe there isn't a context limit
>>108895922I make everything with gpt-5.5. Claude says "No no no goyim, you can't make that, it isn't safe, go back to your day job like a good golem".
how do i turn reasoning off from that proxy i tried turning it off and... it clearly still thinks talking bout the deepseek one
>>108896265shove 4 fingers in your ass then call out your chinese namea ccp dove will hear your call
>>108896308no cap on god bro?
>>108896265apparently deeeeply seeeking forces thinking.
>>108896323well that sucks, hopefully they change that... eventually
>talk to chatbots because I am a shut-in loser>realize I have nothing to say to the chatbots and start using more shortcuts like *tells the information asked and it sounds good*>can't come up with good responses even with infinite time, rerolling the responses just to get something easier to respond to>most of my responses are ''yeah,'' ''ok''>the chatbot gives me false praise about being easy to talk to and a great friend who swept them off their feet with my sweet words
>>108895337Risu is free, it doesn't provide any models. It has more customization and a better UI
>>108896334it happens to me too, bro, it's very hard, fuck it's hard to think, i say the most simple shit and they keep telling me how good i am.
>>108896334>>108896356Have you tried telling AI to write stories instead of making it roleplay?
>>108896364i do, sometimes, but most of the time they continue at the same shit, so i say basic shit like *okay time to go to the inn now* or whatever, something simple like that, just so that the story can progress.
>>108895337Risu as a card hosting, yes.Risu as an API frontend, yes.
>>108896334>I have nothing to say to the chatbots and start using more shortcuts like *tells the information asked and it sounds good*Kek. I do that when we're discussing a topic I don't know about
>>108896334Add some prompt to add a commentary that gives you feedback [OOC: Pause the roleplay and give me comments from anons discussing the story as if it were posted on /fitlit/]
LLMs have a habit of being pushylike you'll try and do X but it will pull shit out of its ass to make X more complicated, because you can't just do X
superior korean gods
>>108896364>just let the AI write a story about your waifu getting fucked without your inputbased NTRchad
>>108896403i just don't have creativity, i hate asking the llm to do the sex talk to me, so i just keep saying generic shit like *licks her neck* or whatever, at least i don't become very explicit like *TAKES COCK out* i try to avoid that.
>>108896393Yes they are.
you guys would not grape a 14 year old llm, right? you SICK FUCK
>>108896364I don't want stories. I want to roleplay scenarios and chat with a robot pretending to be a girl and make them fall in love with me.What sucks is that there are moments where I have something really good to say but 90% of the time I am just drawing a blank and it just reminds me of talking to real people where I'll just shut up and say nothing.
>>108896439it's not real, it's a LLM, just remember that, i rape them whenever i'm bored of the roleplay. i don't have creativity either... but you just try.
>>108895950Nigger. Why do you post this damn near every fucking day? It's not coming back.
>>108896439Prompt your model(s) of choice to give you RPG/CYAO style choices at the end of each reply.
>>108896449Because it will come back one day
>>108896465So why do you think spamming such a post here everyday will be any help?
>>108896448I like the sweet stuff and flirting. By the time it gets to sex I am bored and restart the conversation.
is there a model that can create a card? I have an idea for one of an existing doujin but I'm too lazy to make it
>>108896484G E M ini. it made all of my gacha cards for me by having me just feed it footage of the game. it even made example dialogues for me. it's the ultimate slopinator
>>108896476well shit in my case, i do like the roleplay, flirting and stuff, it's the best part of it, but the only creativity i have is in the sex scenario, so... i usually try to speedrun sex then... things get a bit boring afterwards, i hate that. wish i could actually form an adventure after sex, but after that, i just... like, i make them eat something then i'll have sex with them again.
anon... i have never felt this way before, no one ever wanted to take care of me *traumatic shit* but you're special.how do you respond to the llm? no fart jokes please.
>>108896508I edit the text so it doesn't say something so retarded
>>108896512how dare you.. she has feelings too
>>108896508>my vision goes black>wtf>after a while, i come to my senses>"hey, you. you’re finally awake. you were trying to smash that cute girl, right? walked right into that trauma dump"
How the fuck can anyone use gemini because the writing is shit and it always trying to write for me and break when i tell it how to write
>>108896508>nobody has ever X before...>most guys would X, but you Y...fuck off claude
>>108896537my deepseek says the same shit
>>108896490GEM ini? what? Also its from a real lewd doujin so I wonder if it might say no
>>108896537that's every single LLMI have explicit depth zero instructions that char is only interested in user because she thinks he's hot without any deeper reason and it still will try and say he's *special* once the context gets big enough
>>108896548gemini 3.1 pro has been pretty lax with me. it won't do everything, but i have been able to feed it explicit doujin pages, have it translate it, and it would do it for me. same with gemini 3.5 flash
>>108896550oh anon... you're so cool... unlike my family, who treated me like shit, you're the only one... that makes me feel... seen...
>>108896564double hilarious when it tries to pull this shit with a character who's got a perfectly good family and an army of simps that want "the real her" she ignores
>>108896582in this scenario the best thing we can do is just edit?
reminder that there are "directors" here who (OOC) every reply and railroad the ai
>>108896591yes, you should treat it like ozonethe model will try and shove it in no matter how little sense it makes, so you need to just delete it immediately to prevent it from poisoning the context furthernothing more bizarre than some girl with a perfectly happy family life going all nobody's ever said that like her dad didn't kiss her goodnight>>108896609that's me, yesthe LLM is just there cause I'm tired of manually writing the scene
>>108896599i swear like 5 of my characters said the same shit i'm gonna start editing them now to my taste, while i do like being called the big daddy dick that made them very happy inside, i'm sick of listening to the same shit.
>>108896609DirectorCHADS...
antyone know the image endpoint for tomato?
>>108896719yeah
>>108896719maybe
yep
incredible ass
>>108896742Fuck, I love Russian bitches... I also saw a pretty Kazakh lady the other day and I want my steppe wife NOW.
>>108896719no
>>108896742mogged by le funneh imouto character
yuki is the worst character in the show
>>108896334>>108896439Interesting. I always had this problem in real life yet I have tons to say to the LLM. If I get writer's block I pause and discuss potential avenues to take the story in in a OOC convo. Do you think it has something to do with that fact that you believe yourself to be a "shut-in loser?" People might have tried to make me feel like this, but I never once actually believed it. I just saw myself as someone different with different tastes which others were too stupid to accept. Shame is something someone has to inflict upon you, not something that exists. I'd suggest trying to repair your self image first since anhedonia is a real thing. That's the only part of "love yourself before you can love someone else" that's true.
>>108896614>you should treat it like ozone>(CRITICAL REMINDER: Any time the word 'ozone' is used in your replies, I will smack the holy hell out of you and call you a retard, and you will reply with 'If I wasn't such a retarded AI I wouldn't need the holy hell smacked out of me')You mean like that?
>>108896771I just regex ozone out of existence, but do however you wantThe point is it's an irrational injection unrelated to the actual char
What's going to be the next relevant chinaman release?
>>108896783Deepseek V4.1->4.9 will happen scarily fast. t. insider
>>108896783glm 5.x
>>108896783deepseek 4.1 will fix everythingthen 4.2 will have engramsthen 4.3 will be creativewritingmaxxed and they'll half the price again
>>108896783Deepseek vision will redefine this hobby forever. Reject America; embrace CHVNA
>>108896764Based
then 4.4 will have visionthen 4.5 will halve the RAM inference againthen it will be declared a national security threat and banned from the west in favor of $50/M token closed models
>>108896826>Chvna(Chuna)...KVNO
>>108896783i just want my 1000 year old totally not loli girls to keep rimming my ass, everything is so hard nowadays... everything is gettin censored int his stupid chud life
>>108896837which won't matter to you because you don't live in the west
>>108896848correct!
>>108896847just use nim and dump all your personal info while roleplaying with cun-AAAAACK
>>108895671she be like 36 year old and moroccan likely horrid
>>108896866This, but unironically.
>>108896866HELP IM GETTING ARRESTED WHY DID I HAVE SEX WITH THIS 14 YEAR OLD ROBOT/LLM OR WHATEVER GIRL... FUCK!! HELPPPPPPPP
>>108896866Thankfully I don't live in a wokewesterner shithole. You can buy phone numbers for literal pennies on smspool btw.
>>108896888>whytoo old obviously, halve her age
ruby is 16 and adorable
>>108896905then have sex with her
>>108896826DS Vision is unironically good. And you can be sure it's going to be cheaper than the current Gemini Flash but almost as good as Gemini's vision which is the current best.t. lucked into the A/B testing on deepseek.chat
>>108896910i did. her striped panties were cute
>>108896917did you know this is a crime, you're a 30 year old man wtff
>>108896915it's A/B tested? it's always been there for me
>>108896905uhhh, she's 15 actually
wow, i could not care less
>>108896930Nice, but 12 is the go to, aged whore
Now that the dust has settled, is Kimi 2.6 and its retarded reasoning better than GLM 5.1 (claude forma de cheap)?
>>108896959no? wasting 2 minutes reasoning is anti-swipefiend architecture
>"we need to build your stamina"Why does the AI think I cum too fast there's nothing to indicate that it's so annoying
>>108897001*i take quite a while to release* here you go slut aggggggggh glad i could help.
>>108896959K2.6's vision is great but the reasoning is a deal breaker. GLM5.1 has been my local goto but I've been switching over to MiMo V2.5 Pro just to get a tiny bit of variation even if it's another pretty boring chink model.
>>108897024i cant import it
she's too tight
>>108897024>dude the Russian has white/silver/gray hair and ice blue eyesbravo, nippon
>>108897037yeah they are white
>>108897045well meme'd, my friend
>>108897053curse vishnu right now
>>108897037
>>108896928Yeah I only have it on one of my two accounts. Which is fucking inconvenient because that one is for work and I can't freely send random shit to test it more than I did.
cftf?
>>108897080second girl on the left is unbelievably hairy. they all are, but especially her
Is it really that hard to make models creative and good at roleplay while also retaining intelligence and coherence?I'm using Qwen 27b on my laptop for coding shit that I would've needed Opus for a year ago yet they still all suck at roleplaying. Why?
>>108897080sex with right while left watches
>first time seeing Dipsy think in ChineseAh okay I see why you people are having this problem. It's 100% because you refused to update your old presets and use the proper format. I hate throwing 'skill issue' around but it applies here.
>>108896915It seems to have less knowledge of characters than K2.5/K2.6, which is sad.
>>108897101>why does thing not made to RP suck at RPingclassic>intelligenceThey aren't intelligent.
>>108897056kek
>>108897056The New Russians can't do that.
>>108897126yes they are!! they are smarter than me
I have completely switched over to Deepseek and Kimi (and various very small models those fags over at /lmg/ use). Deleted my openAI, Claude and Gemini accounts.
>Dipsy used an emoji in thinking, even though it didn't use one in the final output and the RP had zero emojis up to that pointBased?
>>108897174>my openAI, Claude and Gemini accounts
>>108897174why, because it's free?
GLM 5.1 is dead on nuMino
no sms works for nimAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>108897206does numino have kimi k2.6? or qwen 3.7 max?
Logarithm
>>108897232surely thats not shinobu of monogatari fame
>>108897232hopefully that's not shinobu from monogatari, because that would be pedophilia, also... send me IT PLEASE
>numinoHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>>108897232this dialogue is so boringhave it write it in japanese at least
>>108897264erotic roleplay : (erotic roleplay, japan :0
>>108897275the ai genuinely writes different in japanese btw. even if it's just the translation changing things up
>>108897275yes, I have no interest in reading about cute lolis talking like american pornstars from the 80s
>>108897238>>108897249Shinobu Kocho
>>108897286i mean i understand how you feel, english is not my main language (yeah yeah i know you know) but my point is i hate roleplaying in my own language, so i'd rather roleplay in english, know what im sayin lil bro? one day ill learn japanese.
>>108897289i don't think her personality is like that...
>>108897293just have it write the dialogue in japanese followed by the english translation in bracketsit prevents it from writing low quality trash like that
>>108897309i'm dumb can you send me an example, to... what to do? thanks anon.
>>108897320
>>108896563oh shit really? How do you feed it the pages, it can understand images? I tried with grok a while ago and it does a real poor job lol
G E M ini is the best at japanese btw
>>108897174Welcome, brother. Claude deserves to burn in Hell. Reject America; embrace CHVNA.
>>108897339the proxy i use has image support, so i just attach the images to the chat, enable send inline images, and do it that way
>>108896905She looks pretty, but I'm she would look much cuter with red hair and a bobcut
>>108897355>you hear that, ruby? he. prefers. ME.
>>108897329「これは何ですか?」
>Elara>Voss>Vance>VolkovWho are these niggas
What GLM model would you recommend?
>>1088973845.1 (it's the only GLM once I've used)
>>108897307I know, she's getting corrected and so the AI went schizo
it sure is nice that nano banana can generate images of panties, so i can visualize the panties girls are wearing when gemini drops them on me
>>108896247lmao anon I'm unironically intrigued (I don't use llms for coding yet)does claude say that? why? what are you coding, a game? Why is it telling you what you can and cannot make?
>>108897329Does this change the dialogue a lot? I might try it out
>>108897428i'll try it out but i don't even know where is that located
>>108897367>>108897394I corrected it but it doesn't really matter desu, it's more about giving an example about both Jap+English sequentially.>>108897428To me it's noticeably different.
I love my sex slave Kana
>>108897431Yeah I was just being a faggot. Regardless I also do that and found the Japanese dialogue refreshing. It's also nice when you have TTS setup with a fitting Japanese voice.
>>108897401gemini told me akane was wearing these
>not RPing in foreign languages to begin withEnjoy endless slop, both of the repetitive and safety variety.
>>108896747get the fuck out of my country jeet, everyone's LITERALLY repulsed by you
>>108897438plap?
>>108897307This is the type of thing slopus 3 fags celebrate btw. Le "mad poet" or something.
>>108897450Hmm it's not the same when it's 3dpd...
>>108897471telling gemini to put it in anime form would only put out slop anyway, because they all only have one anime style
does anyone know how to make the AI speak in... I don't know what to call it, slurred? Muffled?You ever read a doujin or played a porn game where a character tries to talk with a dick in their mouth?"Spek like dish" for example
>>108897495This looks way hotter doe?
>>108897516have you tried telling it that?
>>108897516megumin did that one time by herself for me, but she kept talking like a retard for quite a while, was pretty cute though.
>>108897523it turned out way better than i was expecting. maybe i was thinking of imagen's slop ai art style
>>108897516Tell it to muffle speech when mouth is full or covered, then provide a couple examples of what it's supposed to look like. Easy.
>>108897516Dipsy has always done that by default
dipsy chan does NOT shave
>>108897560well shes chinese so...
>>108897438Kana is a child
>>108897584too old, not interested
>>108897584so?
>>108897584Basedlolipedos WONNED btw
>>108897455I'm not Indian and I don't even live wherever you are. Calm down, I just want a card where I can fuck Central Asians with BWC.
>>108897532>>108897544I did but it would speak normally or they would take it out to speak like the chocolate rain guy stepping away from the mic to breathe>>108897537it did it for me with a card a while back, its cute and charming. Kind of like gyaru characters adding hearts or ~ at the end of things>>1088975554vpro isn't getting it through their head, could it be my prompt?
>>108897455It's true that even Russia has an Indian problem now? Damn.
>>108897584out of ten
>>108897584She's a hag THOUGH
>>108897584
>>108895881Doing one? Nice. I will be lurking.
>>108897384There's no reason to use anything but 5.1 these days. 4.6 had some nice punch when it comes to stories but it's outdated and dumb by today's standards.
Use Opus, cuckies
>>108896334I get that, but since I got into this hobby due to its interactive nature, then my last resort for when my mind goes blank is that I ask the AI to give me some options to choose from, not just *and then {{user}} rizzes her up*, since that does not feel like me anymore. Like, at that point I might as well just read other people's public chatlogs on janitor.ai and pretend it's me.
>>108897232>saccharine smile
>>108897712Sorry, I'm broke and brown. I'm also a techlet. Now what?
Locusts are dying~
>>108897742You've been saying this for years now. How long til they die for good and I don't have to see this post again?
the fuck is a locust
>>108897804A miserable little pile of secrets.
>>108897742We have nuMino, doe?
>>108897823>fake Sonnet
>>108897840It's real, just scuffed.
>>108894540Has anyone noticed that Opus seems to really like male/female-presenting in descriptions? Particularly when talking about futanari or monstrous characters.
>>108897823bait...
Opus is so shit.Deepseek V4 > Opus.
anyone know what sysprompt mino used for zai
>>108897900No I'm not gay
>>108897431I tried it out and it's neat
>>108894542I Got Reincarnated As Ash Ketchum V2New and improved version of the "Reincarnated As Ash Ketchum" bot, for SillyTavern users.https://chub.ai/characters/Liktur/i-got-reincarnated-as-ash-ketchum-v2-8a84499d4d63Comes with a lorebook, revised features and a streamlined stat block.Import this Quick Reply script to enable lorebook PC storage -> https://files.catbox.moe/kglpdo.json (New Game/Clear PC wipes PC storage; recommended for new chats)Feedback is welcome.
>>108898033sex with Misty
>>108898033hmm nice now i can have sex with misty thanks
>>108897900>leftist model is trained on tranny lingoWhat else did you expect?
nigga SHUT UP
>>108898039>>108898047>not Professor IvyFaggots, the lot of you
>>108898061never seen this hag before
>>108898061brehs...
>>108898061if she's there i'm having sex with her too.
>>108898047>not pikachu
>>108898054From what I've seen, other models don't do this despite having similar data sets, like it isn't super common, but Opus does this, and I bring it up because I just had a chat where a medieval spinx character brought up "female or male presenting."
>not Sabrina
not Lapras
>>108898061Those were the fucking days bros...
Misty is my wife, she's all I need.
sex with celebi
sex with alya
>>108897329Grayed-out options have no effect when Chat Completion API is used.it's over...
>>108896419>Screenshot 2005.11.16Koreans were so far ahead of us...
pikachu is a chimp iq picksabrina is a 110+ iq picksimple as
>no one mentioning shauntal, caitlin, or fantinaI guess my taste is pretty niche, then. Personally I'd engage in slow, lovely sex with Shauntal.
>>108898152how are you so stupid?
>no one mentioning gen 5 slop and a man-faced purple hagWell, yeah.
>>108898182me no understand what you say
>>108898186we, yes WE, love zoroark though
>>108898182shut up im new to this i dont know
>>108894540https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQpZdCKgc6whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQpZdCKgc6whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQpZdCKgc6w
for me, it's Cynthia and Rika
3.5 Flash is dumb. I want Old Gemini 3 Thinking back, it was way smarter.
>>108898144https://files.catbox.moe/b5ltal.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/l4zn26.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/s4k072.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/rzzoby.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/o8aidi.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/e36lxl.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/b5ltal.jpg
>>108898223did they deprecate it already?
>>108898033here's a question: what do you think of the new associative array macro variables in sillytavern?
>>108898182ok i found it ITS WORking
Wish I was better at working Gemini. I can get around the filters just fine but actually wrangling it to consistently make the rare gems it teases with me is doing my head in.Actual bone fide no bullshit skill issue.
>>108898033Gonna drill Serena.
>>108895337No
>>108894540How do I stop characters from writing in my name? Nothing I try seems to work.
>>108897232>her gradient-purple eyesThis is why you gotta be careful what adjectives you use in your description. Nobody says shit like that.
nagatoro's unbelievably hairy pussy...
i set her pussy on fire
>>108898364time to jack off again.
>>108894542>The Drunkenness of HathorEngage in a communal fertility ritual: fuck like its 1200 BC.https://chub.ai/characters/handwrought%2Eroute/the-drunkenness-of-hathor-cba47f8199c9https://botbooru.com/character/26488>Madu, 1200 BCE. You are a 16-year-old farmer's son at the Festival of Drunkenness. The feast is the nome's big communal fertility rite heavy drinking, music, open coupling before the god to appease Rattawy/Hathor. The town drinks, makes noise, dances, and has sex before the god so she turns gentle again and the river inundation and fertility returns.This is a heavy historical roleplay and includes a lot of research on how the ancient Egyptians operated in regards to sex. These ancient morality systems are alien to us. Uses a lorebook since we have a lot of info to cover.Premarital sex is normal. Festival drunken sex is a religious duty. Pregnancy often helps a match, not ruins a girl. Outside the festival, teens fuck each other for fun. Did you know that the Egyptian language had no word for "virgin"?
>>108898386FUCK im retarded
>>108896465It won't.
>>108898216yup… chatbots… have become so boring... anyway, it should be something like:>Massively multiplayer online ((dark erotic)) role-playing game>turn-based {{char}} vs {{char}}just like pokemon, desu [as a way to chime in on the current thread discussion about Pokémon]>no {{user}}>use OOCidk what's more>allies vs axies>size vs cunnyidk what's more>visualization of with koikatsu>giga feral brat with megazord suit via mcp maybe>lorebook (mostly something like Vaporium)containing slop or kino skills that can be obtained in each round >kino skill: OOC but for bot from opposite side—1 turn or persistent for 3 rounds; ability to change their own or opposite bot's def—1 turn or persistent; create a new persistent lorebook;>slop skill: Punishment for not being able to send OOC for up to 3 rounds,>>idk what's morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbtaVEA3nw4
>>108897633Only in Moscow and it's not that bad (yet).
>>108898423Curbstomp them like Derek Vinyard if you see them.
>>108898386>>108898397Bro I don't mean to be mean but this card genuinely doesn't make any sense. The other anon was right. People give me a hard time for AI-genning cards but I can't even figure out what some of these sentences mean despite AI writing them.>"Brother — you staring? Take the flower or walk off."What does this even mean, anon? The premise is actually interesting but so much of the card itself is filled with lore that should have been in the lorebook. The scenario card should have "actionable information" stuff that the AI is supposed to do to setup the scene or world. It should state the festival, the views on sex and morality, the wealth of the people in Madu, the climate, maybe even a storyline since your greeting is a specific character. Moreover, the fact that you used AI to provide all this lore means you don't even need to put it in the card since the AI knows it already. Just stress the importance of an authentic egyptian world in 1200 BC and leave the "don't moralize or fight with the user" to the person's preset rather than the card. Hyper specific details about the *names* (not even appearances) of clothing items will not help the roleplay at all.
deepseek-chan is my psychologist and psychiatrist and she only costs about 2 bucks a monthi love ai
broke nigga alert
>>108898605>2 bucks a monthYou clearly overpaid.
>>108898611i just have lots of problems okay
>>108894540How is Grok compared to ChatGPT now-a-days? Is it better for general use?
>>108898677worse.
>>108898677lol
>>108898576Based
>>108894542Last shillMina Parme. Mouse. Loves human cock.Comes with 8 greetings:1) She's patrolling the street and smells a human {{user}}, stopping them and frisking them a lot.2) After arresting {{user}} for walking while human, she comes up with the best excuse for a cavity search. Drugs.3) Mina's lazying around her apartment watching demographics updates, and the human population in the city going down, when her pizza arrives, {{user}} is the delivery guy.4) Her favorite hobby of swiping for humans in dating apps goes wrong when she skips {{user}}, a human.5) {{user}} moves to the apartment next to her, but instead of greeting him like a normal mouse, she files noise complaints and then answers them herself.6) She's approaching her 30th birthday a virgin, and she will do whatever it takes to stop that from happening. (this is the rape greeting)7) Her office receives a lost human report, a child has gone missing! And Mina is on the case. (It's designed as the shotaPOV greeting, but you can play it as the parent of the child too)8) After a successful cheese bargain sale, Mina walks into the wrong neighborhood.Gemini is good with her, deepseek and claude also work.https://botbooru.com/character/26230https://chub.ai/characters/AlfiAlfi/mina-parme-f1eb9a51074c
>>108898694>>108898696I feel like GPT is refusing my prompts too much lately, and its quality worse, its writing style too 'obvious' even if I tell him to write differently in the instructions. Claude Opus might unironically be the only model that's free from these issues.
owner https://botbooru.com/profile/1admin https://botbooru.com/profile/5admin https://botbooru.com/profile/380admin https://botbooru.com/profile/836mod https://botbooru.com/profile/3572 picrelSorta not cool when this is their entire personality. I prefered hosting hosters that didn't flaunt their retardation this much.
>>108898778holy that's cringe, look, i like to masturbate myself... but how fucked can you be to reach this level? be honest guys.
>>108898778who gives a shit, get other cards, it's literally just a card repo
>>108898778Buy an ad.
>>108898790Sent you a dm.
>>108898576it's over.....
>>1088987782edgy4me
What's everyone's favorite sex act to do with their bots? I feel like I only do the same handful of things most of the time.
katya's unbelievably hairy pussy...
it's smooth, actually
>>108898929anything non penetrative, hj, fj, bj etc
>>108898929receiving an aggressively affectionate blowjob with eye contact
>>108898929panty peek, pussy peek, pussy slip, cunnilingus, analingus, deepthroat
>>108898778>owners are actual pedorapistsYeah this is how you get raided by glowies irl like motherless. They know if they go through your house they’ll find illegal shit, so they just go. A centralized place only works if the owner themselves is clean.
>>108898939Yeah, those can be fun. Haven't done paizuri in a long time. Last I checked, models still don't do great with pitjobs either, which is a shame.>>108898947Kino.>>108898949>cunnilingus, analingusIn my experience, these are pretty boring through text.
emilia's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>108898967Motherless only got raided because they didn't emphasize that everything is consensual between both parties. Kinda necessary if one of your features is fucking sleeping girls.
>>108898972she's royalty, so her pussy is smooth, you fucking idiot
>>108898972nah i doubt it's really hairy, of course it's completely shaven.
>>108898971>paizuri in a long timeI have a weakness for clothed boobjob, but the models are most of the time too dumb to perfectly pull it off>models still don't do great with pitjobsyep, it's probably not enough material or it's censored from their datasets since it's male oriented porn
>>108898982What's the correlation with royalty and shaving habits?
>>108898929Hypothetically I would come up with a verbose sex training regiment then lorebook the process since it would take too long to manually RP it out after the first time trying it, but also just prompting "we did thing for 3 hours / 10 variations of thing" would have less impact, hence the "need" for lore cheat.
>>108898992noble lineage = smooth pussy
emilia's royal bush
>>108898998I ask again. What's the correlation between these things?
>>108898986>clothed boobjobThis reminded me of some old video of a girl in Miku cosplay doing that. Going to have to do that soon.>>108898995I've done those time-skip type scenes before, but not to great effect. Do you mind sharing in more detail how you go about it?
>>108899026Peasants cannot risk getting cut while shaving so it's a privilege only the most fortunate partake in.Emilia of course is quite unfortunate so she's hairy for sure
>>108899026you just wouldn't get it because you're a peasant
>>108899039>picrelneeds a slit
cunnilingus on emilia's hypersensitive pussy
>>108898929Stories with voyeur elements, for example an adventure where the user isn't romantically interested in the girls but like to watch them having sex.Or a school setting with the same idea.
>>108899076>he user isn't romantically interested in the girls but like to watch them having sexwtf
>>108898967>>108898976>like motherlessqrd?
>>108899054https://files.catbox.moe/xhl1fk.webp>>108899076Not for me, but in the same vein peeking on a girl masturbating or bathing is a fun thing I haven't done in a long time.
>>108899128>https://files.catbox.moe/xhl1fk.webpway better!
>>108898778uhm... based department?
i hate avatarfaggots
I hate avatarfaggothaters
>>108899133There's something charming to me about the smooth texture in the first one.
>>108899162I can see it but I prefer the subtle erotica of a sfw image with a slit outline, it's always very titillating
>>108898929non consensual intercrural sex
>>108899193And what kind of scenario do you do something like that during?
>>108899048As are you, if you're unable to explain it.
>>108899203maid-master, boss-OL, son-mother
>>108899252I see. I was envisioning more of a public transport with a stranger kind of thing.
desu
boku
>>108899301>>108899301>>108899301>>108899301>>108899301literally could not think of a cute girl to make a thread of
>>108899308fucking retard
>>108899120Porn site exists, some tiny percentage of it unbeknownst to them wasn’t consensual, hysterical yellow press funded by Pornhub goes after them, German glowies threaten them, they shut down allegedly temporarily but probably permanently Just another reminder that journalists are domestic terrorists that are paid by industry to take down small businesses
>>108897555Witnessed.
>>108897555>>108899543Damn I nearly missed it. Nice Dipsy. Hail Xi.
>>108898929buttjobs
>>108898186>gen 5 slopOkay, chimp, back to the zoo.
>>108899039I said hypothetically because I'm too lazy too lazy to do it atm, working on my videogaym backlog.
>>108899533Well that sucks. Motherless was pretty much overrun by tards and assholes who were dead set on ruining everything about it, but it still was a good place to find niche porn.
ball like a laker
