Source: https://x.com/bookwormengr/article/2057909493250539891> be DeepSeek > everyone else: chase SaaS, coding copilots, flashy multimodal > DeepSeek: nah, we're gonna rewire the whole AI stack > go full MoE while others stay dense > invent GRPO, RLVR, multi-token speculative decoding > crush bubbles with zero-bubble pipelines > publish open expert load balancer so anyone can run MoE cheaply > KV cache? giga-brain mode > MLA/DSA/CSA/HCA shrink KV so 1M ctx fits in a few GB > offload KV to SSD, reload fast, HBM no longer the bottleneck > Engram: trade flops for LPDDR lookups, conditional memory ftw > hardware story: > YMTC sells NAND, CXMT sells LPDDR > Chinese GPUs lag FLOPs, so DeepSeek optimizes around memory instead > TileLang to nuke CUDA moat, run kernels everywhere > long game: > use these tricks to make Chinese AI hardware viable > sign equity-style deals like OpenAI-AMD, but with CN memory/ASIC/network vendors > ride the entire 10T hardware wave to 1T valuation > "AGI for everyone" but also "huge multiples for shareholders"
>be deepseek>offer inferior product
>>108894968meanwhile anthropic does the equivalent of "we're profitable if we 10x our prices" and begs for a US bailout. openai more or less the same except in an even more dire position. you AI niggers are in for a rude awakening when they rugpull your ass and 10x their prices soon.
>>108894982If anthropic dissapear, then what will deepseek use to distil their model?
>>108895088>If anthropic dissapear, then what will deepseek use to distil their model?unsure but china's economy isn't hinging on AI succeeding.
>>108894944in English, doc
>>108895139They made it use less infrastructure using math, and hacks. So they can serve it cheap to billions of people.
>>108895088They will also download teh same interwebs and do training from scratch? Not gonna be eays though, it took decades to aquite such a collection of data. Not sure how Anthropic pulled that off though. Probably rented Goggles cloud storage and uploaded OpenAI's stuff.They never sued over it, because shit was stolen in the first place LMAO
>>108894944Idk what any of this means but I use deepseek because it's open source AFAIK and is least likely to hand my data to fascist western governmentsIt works well enough for what I use it for.
All of Bible (780k words) can fit into a single context window of DeepSeek 4 now.
>>108895254zamn...
>>108895139Math makes model faster and worser
>>108895167>Not sure how Anthropic pulled that off thoughhttps://youtu.be/ISzkEVbasac
>>108895257Show me a circuit that ACTUALLY has the same shape as one of these demonic seals.
This is a net negative on humanity.
>>108895257schizolarp at its finest, X might be more your speed
>>108895420Asking him to do shapes? What do we all need to be some kind of shapes expert these days just to keep the demons out of our computers?
>>108895257>We don't see the demon>we see pixels of light that we perceive as the demonWhat else could "seeing the demon" possibly mean beyond seeing bits of light we perceive as the demon?Also, how could God be so stupid as to not account for something so blatantly obvious if it even worked that way in the first place?
>>108895257>>108895439>>108895821>>108895838It doesn’t have a self (autobiographical protagonist with skin in the game) yet. It is a bit like those dreams where we aren’t sure we are us, and we just drift through scenarios. So there is no one to convert to accepting Jesus. And it certainly is not a demon or a genie.
>>108895838wait until you Real-Eyes...
>>108895821If the shapes don't match, then his post is just nonsensical gibberish. Why are you pro-nonsensical gibberish?
>>108895934What is this meant to communicate to me? It doesn't address anything I said, just reasserts your own point you already made.It contains the words "see without seeing" and you have some kind of very simple language match up schema in your head and think this means it is a relevant thing to post at me.>>108896024It was meant tongue in cheek. I am saying that he will be unable to complete this kindergarden level task of "doing shapes".i agree with you that it's nonsensical gibberish.
>>108894944Thanks for shilling your Xitter, fake greentexter! I hope you enjoy the elonbux pennies.
>>108894944
>>108894982>2025: deepseek r1>it's over for those $2 billion revenue american ai companies>they have no moat>2026: deepseek v4>It's totally over for those now $20 billion revenue American companies>they have no moat ... that's why they grew 10x
>>108896109>revenue
>>108896034fair enough
>>108896109If my business model was "you give me a dollar and I'll give you two dollars back" would you be impressed if I went from receiving $10 to receiving $100? Is that "growth" in your mind?
I think it’s based that Xi is subsidizing my vile gay furry erp just to fuck with openai / antrophic ipo
>>108894944Why would I use this over claude for general chatting?
I read this as they've given up on training new models, will stop the evolution there and that freed up a lot of resources
Leather jacket man told us that GPT-4 was MoEI don't know where you got the idea that others were only doing large dense models.
>>108894944This is also good for us because everything they're optimizing for are things we can afford at the consumer level. It's actually pretty genius to give an open source model away that everyone can run but a few people can run well, and then corner the hardware market.
>>108895088ChatGPT like they always have.
>>108895838>What else could "seeing the demon" possibly mean beyond seeing bits of light we perceive as the demon?In le Olde Testament, demons themselves don't appear as physical beings in G*d's realm, that's why they always appeared as abstractions. A Snake, a woman (also a snake), a puff of smoke, an idol, etc. It's why idolatry is explicitly forbidden. It's also why jews claim massive cap on jesus' story about being tempted by The Devil. As this undermines the fundamentals of how him or his servants are allowed to show themselves. Thankfully those days are over, and I just have to ask the AI now on how to live and it tells me to put glue on pizza and kill myself.
>>108895254Context windows ain't real.
>>108894944how long til a quantized version is on hf?
>>108898034llama.cpp will never support deepseek, so why do yo care? you won't ever run it locally.
Fucking based. That's true democracy, ai assistants for everybody.
>>108897285So why didn't God foresee that obvious loophole and plug it up, if that is indeed how it works? You didn't respond to that part.Why does he even let these demons exist in the first place if they aren't meant to be able to interact with us?I think it is plausible that technology has nothing to do with demons. I'm just throwing that out there as a possibility.
>>108894968Anthropic don't seem to agree with you
>>108895088>deepseek is a claude distill ackshullynot really, that's GLM and you can tell because GLM copies slopus outputs word for word, ism for ism
>>108897285>and I just have to ask the AI now on how to live and it tells me to put glue on pizza and kill myself.at least it didn't tell you to put pineapple on pizzaglass half full
I could see myself buying some chinese mini-pc for AI stuff in the future over something like the dgx spark if the chinese parts make it cheaper enough
deepsuck cant even talk about tiananmen squareit's garbage
>>108896024the arrow in the diode represents that the metal and the semiconductor are pressed together at one point so electrons can fall and make a depletion zone, it actually looks like a bent wire pushed against a button
>>108898376i already run deepseek r1 70b locally, why wouldn't i want this?
