granny distro

>>108896507
I love it. Although it's in serious need of a facelift and cinnamon desperately needs to fully support wayland now.
But once Clem get those things going then it'll be a top mark for Linux once again.

It was my go-to distro for secondary and tertiary computers

Never tried it, but seems like something that can get noobs into Linux. Does not pull in Snap dependencies by default (but Snap can be enabled if so inclined). Does not shove GNOME into your face, which can potentially drive away people who would otherwise enjoy Linux.

>>108896626
>cinnamon desperately needs to fully support wayland now
just use the XLibre repo, bruh. there's not going to even be a Resolute Raccoon rebase until December or January.

>>108896507
old ahh packages

>>108896507
It basically covers the more old school Linux vibe well. If someone wants something conservative and proven then they can install Linux Mint. If someone wants something modern with tons of bells and whistles they can install Kubuntu. Those are the only two I'd recommend new users tbqh because Fedora has caused weird driver issues for me and Kubuntu 26.04 was a much more pleasant OOtB experience. Anyone more tech savvy should just jump to Arch or whatever flavor of the month Arch variant people are creaming over until they decide if they want something more (Gentoo, Nix, Guix, Void, Artix, insert autism distro here) or they just stick with Arch like 90% of people.

>>108896697
And by old school I mean that relative to modern Wayland DEs. Realy oldschool is fvvm, windowmaker for JustWerkz, or larping with CDE (fun to do). Linux Mint has a MATE and XFCE version if you want to go back further than Cinnamon.

>>108896649
Yeah I tried to do that but couldn't make it work for some reason. Not that it's really needed tho. X11 works well on the older machines I have Mint on.
>not going to even be a Resolute Raccoon rebase until December
that sucks but tbf resolute raccoon is not really production ready nor stable as 24.04. So I'm not on a rush to update everything to it.
But yeah, Mint devs have some serious competition now that there's so many distros able to fullfill Mint's job as the "just work" distro. They really need to step up their game now, especially since Ubuntu is fucking it up so bad.

Debian comes with the with the Calamares installer in 2k26, no reason to use Linux Mint (ever however). even better: use Ubuntu Cinnamon and just ignore Snaps (even though they're superior to Flatpaks right now)

>>108896507
>Mint
It's just a shittier ZorinOS, which is just a shittier Bazzite.
>Cinnamon
It's just a shittier GNOME and a shittier KDE.

>>108896831
>Ubuntu Cinnamon
what is the use case?

>>108896831
>snaps are better than flatpaks right now
has anyone ever done some kind of test or benchmark to prove this?
I use a combination of flatpaks and snaps on Ubuntu and they seem pretty on par.

>>108896734
>couldn't make it work for some reason
https://github.com/xlibre-debian/ubuntu
strange. the instructions are pretty straightforward. even on Arch, I got a couple of questions about replacing the xorg drivers with xlibre ones, but simply entering y for all of them got me set up. I just tried a Cinnamon Artix VM, where the drivers are natively supplied, and it was running quite nicely. I hope you can get it working if you try again.

>>108896844
faster upstream HWE stack updates instead of waiting months

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>>108896507
cattle computing presents
Yet Another Fork of Fork of Debian
With bloated DE
and stupid GUI settings
...
why there is so much positivity for this slopdistro? /g/ has fallen

>>108896916
literally because it just works. It's reliable and you can get stuff done on it without any fuss or tinkering while also not having to deal with snap.

>>108897013
That's a lot of words for "I am a consoomer that can't be bothered to learn system administration".

>>108896916
Because being a tinker tranny is fucking gay and people want a distro that just werks

>>108896507
Its alright. Ultimately it is a downstream of a downstream.

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winfag who made the switch recently, I ended on Mint because it seemed like the most user-friendly to use [spoiler]and Chocolate mint is a GOATed flavor[/spoiler]

About one year in, haven't looked back. It literally just werks, even got Photoshop CS6 running on it via Wine which is the one software I need to have around

Still have to use Win 11 for work, but as far as a personal computer goes I'm considering saying fuck it and just building my next desktop rig as a Mint machine first and dualboot to windows second

>>108897090
>Windows to mint
once a fag, always a fag

>>108897064
>people want a distro that just werks
Did you know that (on average) people are stupid?

It's the literally just works distro for the common person. No need to tinker at all. No need to ever use the command line. You can get any application you want. It doesn't crash for whatever reason. And it looks kino as fuck. I actually regret not installing Mint on my first own computer that I bought with my own money back in 2019. I wish I had known it was that easy to get started with libre operating systems

>>108896507
>forced systemd
>forced wayland
>telemtry
>ubuntu based
into the trash it goes

>>108897169
>forced wayland
ooo, too bad someone doesn't actually know what the fuck they're on about. living with chronic psychological projection must be a BITCH.

>>108896507
It's a very nice distribution for when you want to slap something on a friend / co-worker / family member's laptop, and be reasonably sure that most things they need a computer for will work OOTB. That being said, the most useful things about it are Cinnamon, and the handful of in-house applications they've built.

MATE has always been a nice idea, but it fills the exact same niche as Xfce, and they should really be exclusively focused on Cinnamon. Forget about both of the alt images, and instead, incorporate MATE and Xfce applications into the Cinnamon desktop, to replace as much GTK4 GNOMEshit as possible. One DE. Two ISOs (Ubuntu base and LMDE). Perfection.

>>108897630
A better idea is that they erase the source code and shut the servers down.

>>108896507
Now that Debian includes nonfree firmware in its official installation image, I find it hard to justify running a Debian derivative other than Debian itself unless you're a complete noob.

Let's face it: 90% of the reason Debian derivatives existed in the first place was because of the nontrivial procedure required to install proprietary firmware, but that reason no longer exists.

>>108896507
still the best distro for noobs to use, even if gayming options like Bazzite and Cachy are becoming popular
Hope they rebase everything to LMDE already, Ubuntu 26.04 is already niggeraids and 28.04 might as well be DOA

>>108897169
>>forced wayland
Retard.

>>108898199
>still the best distro for noobs to use
pure delusion

>>108898156
Mint is better if you want a complete desktop environment
Cinnamon for example comes with no themes on base Debian install, while XFCE defaults are nonsensical for a former Windows user

bazzite jeet's fighting for his life in this thread

Mint / Pop / Fedora / Ubuntu / Bazzite / Cachy
these are luddite and retard distros.
I don't even call them "Linux" anymore due to how NPC normiefied they've become.

>>108898654
MATE is unstable abandonware. Just install Devuan or FreeBSD with Xfce.

>>108896507
Im thinking based

>>108897139
Yes, that's why people like something that works, you stupid nigger.
The most popular things might not be "the best" but usually are the most well rounded. Not liking something because it's popular is just contrarian autistic behavior.

>>108897169
Either a poser or a bot. Maybe both.

>>108896507
Mint's simplicity is what makes it great.

>>108898156
>Debian includes nonfree firmware in its official installation image
Wait really? That'd be awesome.
I know it's a trivial thing to add but making any distro any step easier to use is a great thing for everyone.

>>108896507
Babby's first distro. Ubuntu but actually kinda okayish...? Sure, I guess.

>>108898306
Great argument, nerd.
Mint is a tried and true OS even if autists don't like it. Mint is basically the Debian endgame in terms of all rounded usability, easiness and stability.
it may lack "features" but those are mostly unfinished and memes (see wayland).

I think distributing backdoored isos isn't really "user friendly" or "comfy"

>>108896916
>why
Every /g/ poster is a fucking retard
I've seen anons distrohop just to use another DE, it seems sudo apt install xfce is too hard for 99% of the "people" here

>>108896507
>What do you think about Linux Mint?
Good distro, decent team and compatible with everything linux has to offer, because of the Ubuntu base.

But they have to get their shit together, Cinnamon is THE Mint desktop, but where are the KDE / GNOME features? VRR, HDR, Wayland and more? If they don't offer this in the next release, they should just add KDE and GNOME to the installer.

>>108899270
GNOME/KDE Mint would be the perfect distro in my eyes. And no, Kubuntu isn't the same.

I switched to Mint years ago.
Mint has been pretty reliable to me. I haven't had issues with updates breaking anything and the OS in general is pretty stable.
My biggest complaint with it would be that it does not support HDR out of the box.

>>108899789
You should go back to macos

>>108896507
Love it, the fucker just works and does basically everything I want.
Its been my "first distro" for two years now, I've tried a bunch of others on other machines and I'm tempted to switch to CachyOS...but Mint is so cozy and just works without stress, so I'm really not in any rush.

1. the software center is filled with broken out of date shit
2. firewall is off by default
My only real criticisms and what i would tell windows expats. I'm a mint haver and have used it off and on since 2016. 9 to 1 over other linux distros and obviously windows.
People who talk about gayland and xorg are weird, you wouldn't be able to tell just like systemd who gives a shit if it works?

>>108896507
It's basically one of the few non-poser distros out there. Perfect for beginners and experts alike.

>>108896507
It's been my daily driver for nearly two years.
It just works.

>>108896507
>What do you think about
Can we stop with these shitty threads please

my relative uses it because windows doesn't work on their old hardware. i maintain it spending one hour with it every few years. i like it

>>108900027
what would (You) rather talk about, anon?

>>108899987
>1. the software center is filled with broken out of date shit
curious you say that because the Software Center literally has flathub on it. And I can't talk for every program there but every single one I've used it's the same version as the official repo. The Mint team really does a good job maintaining the programs there.
>2. firewall is off by default
This one's true but I've never had a problem lel.

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>>108896507
>works
>stays out of my fucking way
I like it, people like to talk about how out of date the kernel and software are, but its not like you're gonna struggle to use your computer.

>>108899223
yep, delusional

>>108900755
Wayland is fundamentally broken. The way it handles fractional scaling alone should be enough to tell you this. Why is it using a cosine multiplexer to draw at 10x scale in SIX (6) separate buffers, when two is more than sufficient? Why are those buffers transposed BEFORE deteleclining and encabulation? Why do frames get processed individually AFTER hard-coded elements (e.g. imperceptible micro-fractals) are superimposed onto them?

Do you really believe that it's efficient to pipe each frame through a dynamic rasterization vector when providing what you smoothbrains call "antialiasing"? Finally, please explain the necessity of transmitting mangled frames to displays via predictive mipmapping. Go ahead. I'll wait.

If you knew anything about writing a display server, you could easily see how schizophrenic, backwards and inefficient all of this shit is, but I bet you can't understand half of these concepts without more spoonfeeding, you stupid fucking nigger. Wayland is dogshit technology and about 4000 years behind schedule. If you think it's anywhere near production-ready, then please seek help and examine your life.

>>108900804
Anyone use chooses to use Mint likely doesn't even know what sudo is or does. Do you really think they're going to understand anything you pointed out?

>>108900804
>If you think it's anywhere near production-ready
Did you just wake up from 2016? Millions of people are using it without any issues whatsoever. The majority of Linux users use Wayland seeing how it's the default in Gnome and Plasma which make up probably 80%-90% of all Linux desktops.

>>108896507
My Dad is tech illiterate and somehow landed on using Mint because he hates Bill Gates. He did it entirely by himself, I had no input in it. I was quite impressed.

>>108900850
Based Daddyo

>>108896507
been running it for 5 years now on 5 PCs, ever since Windows shit the bed locking up browsing large media folders and canceling Win MCE, only gotcha with Linux is external USB NTFS drives, there are glitch issues, need to use exFAT format, also Linux allows illegal filenames that will mess up in Windows, and Linux will not always sync drives when disconnecting so can end up with zero size files, need to run sync from terminal to force cache flush. Have to periodically do chkdsk on Win8 with Linux USB drives, otherwise happy with all the FOSS apps and glad to never use MSOffice ever again for the rest of my life

>>108897051
>if you want to use the system instead of administrating it endlessly you're a consoomer

>>108900963
>only gotcha with Linux is external USB NTFS drives, there are glitch issues
Glad I'm not the only one, when I went from 7 to Linux, my NTFS internal storage drives could copy stuff to each other and to the main EXT4 SSD, but if you tried to copy from them to a removable drive, the transfer would hang, or even if it acted like it copied the file, it would be corrupted when you got to the other computer, also if my computer lost power for whatever reason the disks would fail to mount unless you repaired them with disks, reformatted everything as EXT4 and no problems, it was freaky but everything is happy now, Linux just doesn't like NTFS sometimes.

>>108896507
best distro for doing actual work, unfortunately the software is still not up to par and is oftentimes slow, unreliable and buggy.

back when i was using it 6 or so years ago within 2 years after an update the DE broke and started glitching out which could only be fixed with a reinstall at which point i went back to Windows.

>>108896507
best distro for doing actual work, unfortunately the software is still not up to par and is oftentimes slow, unreliable and buggy.

back when i was using it 6 or so years ago within 2 years after an update the DE broke and started glitching out which could only be fixed with a reinstall at which point i went back to Windows.

>>108898676
>xfeces
>or any other gtk de
lxqt is better

>>108896507
it's the sane persons OS
Windows is for jeets
Apple is for queers
every other Linux is for trannies

>>108896507
Its okay. Great for newbies an windows refugees. Great compatability with hardwear. Relatively quick and lite.
I prefer something without sysd but mint is acceptable.

>>108897134
Nobody likes faggots like you.
You niggers come around to shit on people. But you provide no alternative.
Youre worthless, just like the job you had before AI stole it from you.

>>108900106
Ubuntu > Mint

>>108896507
What's the non-systemd equivalent?

I'm not a tranny, so I dont use trannyware

>>108901837
>AI shilling out of nowhere
actual mental illness

>>108902291
Void is the white man's choice.
>No systemd
>No forced wayland
>Xbsp is fast and stable
>All the packages you want and need
>Easy to install and use if you're an experienced Linux user, but hard enough to keep normal cattle NPCs (like Mint users) away
>Rolling release but more stable than Shartix
>Completely built from the ground up. No debian, Ubuntu, red hat, or arch bullshit.

Lowkey based for noobs. Much better than Fedora or Ubuntu at least.

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luv me mint

>>108901851
I actually like what Canonical does and how it keeps Ubuntu really well up to date, even the LTS versions. However, Ubuntu is becoming something of its own now and not really Linux. That could be both good and bad. Other distros are better embodying what Linux should be.
Mint is trapped behind this shift unless they fully switch to their LMDE as the primary distro. But seeing how Debian is very much usable by itself now I have a hard time justifying Mint's continued existence in the future. I hope the Mint team starts working towards differentiating Mint and bringing it up to par with other distros like Fedora and its forks.

>>108903292
Based true and real

>>108896507
>first time switching to linux
>use mint because everyone recommends it
>it sucks
>everything is broken and I have to manually fix it
>keeps reverting my GPU driver which broke other stuff
>file browser it came with sux ballz
>see cachy is the new linux hotness
>give linux one more try and swap to cachy
>everything just werks out of the bag with minimal tweaking
Not the biggest fan desu

>>108904122
>Cachy
>forced systemd
>wayland
>arch
hmmmmm

>>108896507

mint and xfce are great in general, problem is retards getting filtered by the supposedly "outdated" look

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>>108904122
>it sucks
>everything is broken and I have to manually fix it
The entirety of Linux in a nutshell. Even the most normie of distros, Ubuntu, just doesn't work. And boy, do the neckbeards get angry when you tell them something simple like USB device recognition doesn't work. You can tell how fucking mad they are because they just say, "skill issue". I actually do not care what OS I use because my identity isn't wrapped up in what software I use. I just need to use an OS that functions flawlessly without spending years finetuning minutia with nothing but terminal and forum comments from two decades ago. That's why I use macOS Tahoe, the latest version of macOS, on my 2025 16" Macbook Pro.

>>108904604
Works on my machine. Sounds like a skill issue.

>>108904604
Holy shit, MacOS looks terrible. It looks like Gnome, but worse. The aggressively exaggerated rounded corners... It looks so stupid. Who thought that was a good idea?

>>108904691

They are innovating duhhh

>What do you think about Linux Mint?
not as bad as Manjaro

>>108896507
I use Windows 11 and Mac OS because I have a job

>>108905010
and what kind of job that is actually?
the only answer in 2026 is adobe premier,

and also does this job not pay you enough to get a personal computer?
so you have a work pc and a leasure pc for gaming etc.

you have a job and you are fucking poor? you say?
interesting....

>>108899144
Why not just a giga retard? No shortage of those on /g/.

>>108905124
your premise is retarded but i will reply
i have 4 computers
pc for gaming, some dev and ai stuff
a work mac, for work
a personal mac, for home projects
a lenovo with ubuntu to run openclaw
linux year of the desktop will never come

>>108904604
eww yikes

>>108896507
nothing wrong with it really, but if i were to use a debian based distro with a desktop environment i'd just use debian with a desktop environment

>>108905010
for 95% of people linux and a job aren't mutally exclusive, retarded take

>>108905302
having a job means you value your time. you want a professional looking desktop and you want your peripherals and software to work without having to fuck around

>>108905159
>openclaw
>ai stuff
>ubuntu
>home projects on mac

AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA
Can we ban the fucking shit smelling jeets from the internet.

>>108905383
>he's having a meltie because he can't fathom the idea of someone using computers for real work and projects, instead of posting on 4chan and jerking off to anime girls all day long

>>108897051
no, I can't be bothered to spend time and effort on system "administration" on a personal computer when there's no need for it, and when my time is valuable enough that spending it on such tasks is actually a waste.

>>108896507
is it me or xfce version is fucking garbage ?

>>108905362
and for 95% of people the software they need just werks (or has suitable alternative) on linux

>>108896507
I like it, but it needs a revamp asap.

>>108905450
I prefer it for computers that don't have high dpi meme screens that need scaling to even see, because you've got nothing to lose but everything to gain in memory and CPU cycles saved, but if you've got a newer laptop with like a 2K res on a 13 inch screen, you like previews in the toolbar, get mint Cinnamon.

>>108905416
then why aren't you using a mac?

>>108905403
>"real" work
such as?
dont tell me you're a programmer that can't work on a non-babygated unix system

>>108905403
what's blocking you from doing real work and projects on linux? sounds like a skill issue to me
are you by chance still in school?

>>108896507
Too downstream of Canonical.

>>108905592
low IQ take. Ubuntu IS linux. 90 percent of linux computers use it. Mint being Ubuntu is a strength

>>108905652
Except it's not. It's evolved into it's own bastardized version of "Linux."

>>108896507
It's a great distro for beginners, Cinnamon is an incredibly comfy desktop environment, I do prefer old Cinnamons menu though, it use to be very simple looking.

T.Windows user

>>108896507
>Have a 10+ years old desktop with jewvidia card
>CachyOS installer works
>PikaOS installer doesn't even start the live installer
>Fedora is an abomination with glitches and crashes and even after forcing it with compatibility it still won't login and i get blackscreen
>Nobara installer works but it doesn't make an uefi boot option on my motherboard so it's like it doesn't exist...
>Mint installs and fucking works
Yeah yeah granny distro but it's weird how cachyos and mint are the only ones that don't have a problem when they are so different. No I won't install Ubuntu if mint works.

>>108905511
because apple hardware isn't reliable, and macOS is painful to use and also proprietary.

>>108904604
I think picrel looks cool. I just tried Windows again, but had to uninstall it, the software management is completely fucked. Yes... even with winget or some cringe 3rd party package"manager". No wonder they had to implement WSL2.

I'll stick with Linux, but I'm interested in MacOS. The problem is just, Gaymen support is even worse ... but I really like the Hard+Software, it's like the cooperate proprietary Linux. And almost every language has 1st class support on Mac, especially with Brew.

>>108903404
Debian rules. Canonical sucks. Mint is irrelevant.

>>108908622
All 3 suck and are holding Linux back.

>>108908649
How is Debian holding Linux back?

>>108908649
Debian would be the coolest kid around if it wasn't run by leftards.

yeah it's fine

>>108904691
I think it looks nice :3

>>108896507
I've been using it since October and it's been great, it's simple and easy to get used to. I was dual booting it and W10 but I haven't booted into Windows since December

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>>108896507
SNCA distro.

You have to be senile, retarded or both if you can't figure out that cinnamon is available on other distros (and also dated and ugly).
Any KDE-first distro mogs.

>>108896507
Nearly perfect distro, always end up crawling back to it. I think LMDE should be the main release instead of the Ubuntu base, use dinit, and gut all the ugly libadwaita shit from gnome to be truly a perfect distro

>>108896507
Always hated it because it was clearly inferior to Ubuntu Unity and still is.
gnome for all its flaws still looks and functions better with Ubuntu's tweaks.
ugly distro with 2 layers of abstraction

Its fine. When i need to play with code to make something work with it, i can. Usually i dont. Desktop or window manager wars dont really interest me, i was using fluxbox for a while and never minded that. I use command line a lot because i grew up in the bronze age and typing is almost as fast as cuneiform.

>>108900850
Actually based