>1979 C with Classes published at bell labs.>1998 The first ISO standard for C++ was published>2015 Rust 1.0 published>2026 Still no ISO standard for Rust exists>the Literal U.S gov and every major U.S tech corp shilling to use it for marginal security gains Lets face it Rust is a government project to step away from international standards.
>>108897323ISO is where languages go to die. ISO has utterly fucked c++.
>>108897357This. The worst thing about C++ is the standards body.It's also adopted by literally everyone and it's fucking retarded on both sides.
>>108897357*herb
>>108897357All the criticism of C++ came after C++11 which is around when Rust was getting promoted. Don't rule out deliberate sabotage on the part of the standards committee
>>108897421*herband then fucking seacord is following suit for C
>>108897323>the Literal U.S gov and every major U.S tech corp shilling to use it for marginal security gainsyeah, that's why I don't trust rust
we're done doing free work for china and russia, America is done hanging out the products of our human capital for free. go back to the frontline and make your own standards. If you want to borrow our products you can use Rust as long as you play by our rules
>>108897421>implying c-- was ever good, or that people use or ever used C--<$CURRENT_YEAR>
>>108897483>America is done hanging out the products of our human capital for freeyou mean indiansthat's your human capitalAmerica can't play this game anymore
imagine feeling like you have to confine yourself to one "safe" language because you can't use valgrind
>>108897491i doubt they'd ever trust someone like you to write real software, you should probably go back to writing make-work products like B2B SAAS and Rest APIs....oh wait they stopped pretending those are useful now that AI is sucking up all the investment.
>we need everything to go through iso so (((they))) allow us (jeets) to feel like we participated>let me slip a COPE fake fact while at it>>shilling for marginal security gains>did this work?
>>108897526the only difference between C++ and Rust now is the coding standards. The tooling already picks up most of the issues Rust is supposed to solve and moving away from unsafe code by using memory safe data structures in C++ makes it almost equivalent
>>108897526>>108897556>rolling with more sophomore-level fake facts
>>108897590>sophomorethis site is dead, I forgot anything career adjacent would be filled with you people.
>>108897357iso is just a standard... there could have been the c++ iso without a committee. you actually want a language to be standardized because it provides guarantees regarding implementations. a program written with c++17 will technically behave expectedly on all standard compilers. you can also break backwards compatibility easier because you can just come out with a new revision.
>>108897644why? why would we do this? why would we do free work for china and russia so they can focus on the development of missile and drone systems against us? what do we get out of it? American tech is consolidated enough where 5 companies can work together in agreement. If you're american you shouldn't care about standards because the grown ups have your and their own interests in mind. what you're doing is telling american IT sector to do free work for foreign countries WHICH ARE LITERALLY AT WAR RIGHT NOW stop being retarded
>>108897662I would have agreed with you 10 years now but the ship has sailed. America can't run this cope anymore. Its already over.
>>108897526Valgrind? I compile with address sanitzer, catches everything desu.
>>108897626>no-u replying again>doesn't know how to gaslight properly like a jewthis new bot is sub-40 IQ. even the izzat bots are better.
>>108897816>gaslight>bot>izzatslow down memelord
>>108897877now, that's slightly better gaslighting. almost 50 IQ.you forgot to send me to >>>/x/ though.
>>108897662lmao seethe
>>108897915how about you make your own language that solves real world problems and release it
if you listened that fragment you should know that there is another way - a personal control over the language, which he stated he lacked (explaining it with users), but those representatives he mentioned said that they were concerned about his employer (not users) who could steer/influence the language.so i doubt users, were the case. dude is not a simpleton, there were "experiments", obviously, and now its rolling rolling rolling..he also says that he is a runtime believer and that is much more important part. not a reality denier.
>>108897925no need im using C++
>>108897644>doesn't know the difference between spec and standardLooks like the sub-40 IQ assessment made was correct.
>>108897816>>108898022i wonder if he knows how stupid these messages appear
>just build all your software on our none ISO compiler bro
>>108898630>ISO compiler/g/eet memes never end
>>108897323https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108770946
