>>108897612
Can it wash my penis after I dump a massive load in your wife's anus while she has dysentary? Lol.

i remember as a kid my mom was very touchy about using the dishwasher, she thought it would run up the electric and water bill astronomically so we hardly ever used it, hell even the other month I ran it when there was only a few dishes in there and she freaked out and said the electric bill would be insane. Now that I have my own place I can look at my electric usage and it turns out dishwashers use barely any water and hardly any electricity and are basically free to run.

>>108897612
It does an impressive job. You can save more money by using powder instead of those pods. Also, buy the cheapest rinse aid you can find.

>>108897698
Some people really think dishwashers (and other appliances too) constantly drain all their rated kilowatts and water during the entire run, when in reality they refill and reheat the tiny tank like three or four times, and the rest is recycling dirty water.

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>>108897612
>>makes your life objectively better, saving you both time and money
Not in Germany.
In germany you need to clean out the filter instead of having it just grind the dirt and mud.
Also, most models are cold water only and use a lot of power.
And then there's the need of arrainging everything in so thhat this retarded machine can clean it correctly and after that, you need to take everything out and be careful not to damage the machine or the dishes while doing so.
Then there's the hidden cost of special salt, cleaner and tabs.


Fuck no, terrible machine unless you buy dustry grade with both hot and cold water access + self cleaning filters and grinders ($20.000 alminimum price), good luck with that.

>>108897766
Why are they so bad in Germany? My money would be on regulations since I can't imagine any other reason why this would be the case.

>>108897766
You sound like a genuine mental retard.

>>108897752
Hot water heater & HVAC use 60-70% of any house's electricity. I think the refrigerator is next highest. Everything else is negligible.

>>108897798
You sound like a clueless zoomer living in your mother's basement

>>108897698
that's because your mother hates you, retard. not technology

>>108897814
Cope seethe and dilate. I own my home and am running my dishwasher right now as I do every day. Nothing you said is true unless you have difficulty with basic motor control or are unable to understand how a dishwasher works.

Mine broke a year ago at this point and I've been too cheap / lazy to replace it. It really does save so much time

>>108897612
I like washing the dishes, reminds me of smoking cigarettes which I no longer do. Good time to just relax and unwind

>>108897793
It's a shitpost

>>108897810
Refrigeration tech is incredibly efficient, I really doubt your fridge uses enough power to have a notable effect on your electricity bill, your oven is probably the second power hungriest appliance.

>>108897766
> In germany you need to clean out the filter instead of having it just grind the dirt and mud.
Rinsing off the filter takes 30s
>Also, most models are cold water only and use a lot of power.
This makes no sense. All machines have a pans and pots cycle that washes at 70°C. And as OP said, they use barely any electricity.
>And then there's the need of arrainging everything in so thhat this retarded machine can clean it correctly and after that, you need to take everything out and be careful not to damage the machine or the dishes while doing so.
The machine literally cleans your dishes while you sleep while using less water than you doing it manually.
>Then there's the hidden cost of special salt, cleaner and tabs.
All of these are super cheap if you buy the supermarket brand

>>108897612
it takes me like 30 seconds to wash my dishes by hand.

>>108897766
I did the calculations and assuming I use the cheapest powder possible a standard wash cycle cost like eleven cents, it makes zero sense it would cost more to run a dishwasher than to hand wash if your houses uses an electric hot water heater like most houses these days do.

>>108897950
Just because the technology is about as efficient as it can be doesn't mean it isn't one of the largest consumers of energy in the home. It's still a fuck off energy hungry compressor doing the work.

>>108897612
It's an appliance so objectively good it can reveal what fucking retards still exist that refuse to use it.
>>108897766
>>108897970

>>108897632
That was hilarious and original. Maybe try your luck in the comedy business?

>>108897698
boomers are mentally ill, exhibit #6000000

>>108898068
It's always just Europeans, I genuinely don't get it, they treat dishwashers like a black magic box that has a 50% chance of summoning a demon anytime they run it.

>>108898310
europe is surprisingly impoverished.

as a consequence, simply by discussing domestic appliances, you are putting europeans in a very uncomfortable position: they have nothing to contribute to the conversation, since by virtue of their poverty they cannot afford most appliances, either due to lack of funds for the appliance itself, or lack of living space.

its sort of like discussing the different kinds of girls with an incel - the incel knows, anything he says, will only serve to reveal his inexperience (and impotence) - so he really only has two choices, remain silent (however this is in itself revealing), or appear indifferent, which can be interpreted as abundance.

europeans however pick the even more insane third option, which is to tell you that your comfortable life is infact very uncomfortable and terrible - i guess in my previous analogy, it would be like the incel telling you that the sex you're having is "awful and incredibly uncomfortable, actually".

very unfortunate people, but its hard to feel sympathy for them.

>>108898442
The lack of living space is a big one, as someone with family in Europe I can safely say most Euro's genuinely cannot comprehend how much larger an average apartment in the US is.

>>108897766
> In germany you need to clean out the filter
Hab ich nie gemacht. Never did that. I rinse dishes with cold water before putting them in the dish washer. This prevents stinky and improves the end result.

>>108898496
I lived in a 15m2 apartment once and it still came with AC, dishwasher, and a washer/dryer combo
Big european city

I can afford a bigger space now but never lived anywhere without those basics

>>108897612
they suck and eat money
I wash my plates with the water I boil for coffee less effort and time than that piece of shit

>>108897632
>t dishwashers use barely any water and hardly any electricity
WRONG
the eat electricity if the water is in any way hot (and they still suck ass)

>>108898562
based peasant
>>108898568
based esl
(probs a same-fag)

>>108897612
Pretty certain the jews are putting microplastics in my balls with the tide pods.

>>108898543
>double work
Yeah, nah

>>108897612
>Buying Korean Appliances
OH NO NO NO NO

>>108898496
I've spent a considerable amount of time in the PRC where apartments are even smaller, and it's insane how small they can make dishwashers and washing machines
There's literally no excuse

>>108898543
>I rinse dishes with cold water before putting them in the dish washer. This prevents stinky and improves the end result.
It actually doesn't, you're not supposed rinse dishes because the small food particles actually aid in the wash cycle. The big problem people make when using dishwashers it using expensive pods instead of powders and putting a little extra powder in the pre-wash dispenser.

>>108897612
>corrupts your soul
No thanks.

>>108897612
Do you still have to rinse them? I remember first having one in my apartment in college and it would always leave some spots uncleaned. Someone told me I had to rinse them, which in my mind kind of defeated the purpose, especially if I had to use a sponge to removed scraps stuck to the plate. That was 10 years ago though.

>>108897612
Are you a housewife with a family of 7? It doesn't take me much more than 5 minutes to wash by hand

>>108899575
you kinda do with my mom's dishwasher but I dont trust them anyway so i always rinse my wares

you dont need dishes, eat from the pan with your hands

>>108899607
You save a lot of water with these and get better results

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I have a bench model, since I live in a small apartment from the late 60s.


The model is from the early 2000s I think.

>>108899607
Do you ever cook or just order goyslop taxi when you are hungry

>>108899575
I never do, I just scrape off any big chunks of food and throw them right in, haven't had any problems.

>>108897612
*krashes and locks up during a cycle*
what do?

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>>108897612
I don't like them.

>>108899812
I always cook. I never use more than a pan/wok/pot/tray and a bowl if I'm also having salad or mashed potatoes
Like 99% of the time you won't use more than 2 recipients, a plate and a bunch of utensils, why would you need a whole ass dishwasher?

>>108899710
They don't rub your dishes with a sponge with detergent or steel wool so no, you don't get better results

>>108899795
>capacity: 1 pot

>>108897752
If dishwashers are supposedly more "economical" than washing by hand, why are clothes washing machines so inefficient?

Checkmate

>>108897612
My fucking Samsung dishwasher that has no model# visible stopped working a couple months ago and I'm pissed. Gonna have to tear it out and see if I can fix it. Probably need to buy a new one.

>>108899874
Sir try performing a clean boot.

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>put dishes in oven
>press self-clean
>no need for stinky dishwasher
simple

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>>108897612
I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe.

>>108897612
>tfw bought a 1985 condo with a 1985 dishwasher
She's invincible

>>108900283
fucking glorious idea anon, i am going to do this

>>108897612
I don't use 300 plates every time I eat and accumulating them for so long can't be good for the plate

>>108897612
It ruined the world because it let women out of the kitchen.

>>108901154
men let women out of the kitchen, not dishwashers.

>>108897612
>buy another planned obsolescence device goy

>>108899575
I do because my nose is very sensitive and the "freshly dishwash'd" smell makes me gag

>>108900200
let me guess, you need more?

My mom didn't plug the filter all the way and dirty water got into the spray arms clogging them, it took me hours to unclog then but some got messed up permanently.

>>108900227
Put your clothes in the dishwasher too, idiot

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>>108897612
One of the best mental illness tests I came across is just asking people whether they have a dishwasher at home, and if not, why. Any answer other than "yes" or "no I'm poor" is a sure sign of mental illness. The thread is full of them, this >>108897870 guy takes the cake. Just imagine the inside of his tiny head, how many layers of cope and trauma he has to think that way.
>>108897970
My dishwasher broke once. It took me a full hour to wash a week's worth of dishes without it. With it, it takes me 5 minutes tops.
>>108898562
Do you wash clothes by hand as well from the water you leave in the bath?
>>108898632
The dishwasher pods indeed introduce tons of microplastics. That's why you should use the powdery tablets.
>>108899607
By 5 minutes of course you mean 10 minutes and that shit adds up especially when you have so many chores and have long work days. Do you wash clothes by hand? Why not? "It takes 5 minutes" to wash a day's worth of clothes.

>>108897612
are these worth it for a 1 person house?

>>108899795
>bench model
wait, I had no idea these were a thing. cool

>>108902647
>It took me a full hour to wash a week's worth of dishes without it
How much is a weeks worth? How do you go without dishes for a week? Do you use a pan only once and go "ah well, can't use it the rest of the week"??? Do you reuse your cups by quick rinsing or have like 10 extra cups at your disposal per person? Either way makes no sense.

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>>108902794
I have 4 pans, 3 pots, 30ish cups, 6 plates, 6 protein shake cups, 18 glass containers for meal prepping, and a lot of spoons and forks.
In a week I go through 7 glass containers, 6 plates, 5 protein shake cups, 30ish cups (I eat a lot of plain yogurt), 6 pans (keep having to wash them), 2 pots and their tops, and tons of spoons and forks. When the dishwasher broke, I would just stack them and put some water on the one on the top of each stack so it softents the leftovers (i barely leave any, usually just tiny bits). Then I would spend 1 hour in the weekend to quickly and efficiently wash them all. In the middle of the week I had to wash pans all the time because I only have 4 and I mainly use 2 of them because the others are too big.
This is just me. I don't want to imagine how it would look like if I had kids.

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>>108897612
You've cleaned your dishwasher filter recently, right Anons?

>>108902647
5 minutes is 5 minutes. I cook, I eat, I wash. I don't live around dirty shit for a week like a mentally ill troon. And clothes take half an hour with a washing machine, it probably takes one to two hours by hand

>>108897612
It's insane how many families don't have one.
I live alone though, so it wouldn't help much. I would have to keep dirty dishes around for like a week, and then unload them.

>>108902904
Used to do it after every couple washes but now only bother every few months during salt refill.

>>108897612
>buying feminist product

>>108897698
I think dishwashers did used to use more water and electricity, and it's only more recently that there's been focus on bringing that down.
It's kind of like how old people still assume boilers works like immersion heaters.
My mum always whigs out about lightbulbs left on, because she's old enough to remember older higher wattage bulbs. All her lightbulbs are LED now though. I've tried explaining it to her, and she just won't let it go. Out the room for 1 minute = lightbulb off.

>>108903007
It's about basic decency. Do you not flush the toilet after you're done shitting?

Why does my dishwasher take 5 fucking hours to wash the dishes? I swear they were faster when I was a kid. Do I just have a bad model?

>>108903097
>5 hours
What the fuck.
Mine is up to 2 hours filled to the brim, ~1 hour at daily family load.

i don't understand the point of dishwashers.
Why not just wash and reuse the same plates, bowls and cups after you're done?

>>108903725
Do you think the dishwasher is throwing your dishes away?

>>108897612
I don't have it since i use one or two plates a day if any and i wash them after done eating immediately.

>>108903772
The point is, you end up spending more time loading and unloading, than if you just hand-wash the ones you're already using.
Plus spending extra money on whatever cleaner you use.
It's so retarded

When I was single living alone, hand washing and drying was the way. There were only a couple pieces of cookware and one set of dishes to wash. Took <10 minutes, including drying and putting away. But cooking for others creates more cookware and more dishes to wash. This is where the dishwasher starts saving you lots of time. Especially if people in your home are baking or cooking recipes that use tons of bowls.

There's also the drying problem. The dishwasher heats the dishes so that they come out dry after you set the door ajar and let it cool. Hand washed dishes need to sit in the open for hours to dry. Towel drying immediately after washing is the way to go, but it starts eating up up too much time when you have to dry 20+ individual items

>>108903793
>>108903725
Of course you don't need a dishwasher to wash literally 1 plate, 1 fork, 1 cup. I assume you're eating takeout since you didn't mention cookware. It's different when you're cooking meals and feeding others.

>>108903845
>It's different when you're cooking meals and feeding others
washing and drying 3-4 sets takes maybe 15 minutes

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>uhmmm I AM doing the dishes anon. They're just soaking. Trust me I'm gonna come back and finish them soon. It's not just gonna get cold and slimy and require even more time to wash, and I won't simply ignore it hoping you do it for me out of frustration. tee hee

>>108897612
Every dishwasher made this century is garbage designed to fail as soon as possible.

>>108903863
>maybe 15 minutes
"maybe" because you haven't experienced it as an inevitable 3x a day task. If handwashing was that easy then dishwashers wouldn't exist

>>108903097
That's to reduce power consumption. Modern dishwashers and washing machines are designed to use one cycle of water for longer rather than doing many cycles each needing power to be heated up.

>>108897612
It's way more expensive than just washing the dishes

>>108903881
okay then ~45 minutes spread out over 8-10 hours is still nothing.
> dishwashers wouldn't exist
dishwashers only exist because of the 1950s obsession with mechanizing every mundane task in the name of vague "futurism".
It's nothing but laziness that ends up wasting more of your time and money

>>108899812
>Do you ever cook
Do you? The actual things that take time and are annoying to wash you can't wash inside those.

>>108897766
I've been using a dishwasher my entire life since America is a first world country. I've had absolutely ZERO issues with them.

>>108897612
Unironically a better invention than the Haber-Bosch process.

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>>108897766
>DER DISCHTWASCHTMACHINEN?? NEIN, WE DON'T DO ZAT IN GERMANY

>>108903881
Washing 5 plates instead of 1 barely takes more time. Same for forks and knives.
Cooking for one person or 4 more doesn't really change how much time it takes to wash because you'll be spending the majority of time cleaning the pots you used to cook the meal with.

Honestly this thread is filled with people with and without dishwashers that are just fucking larping. You people have never cooked or washed anything in your lives

>>108897612
No thanks im already married.

>>108897766
Du bist unfähig zu leben, was >>108898068 sagt. _JEDE_ Maschine die man in Deutschland erwerben kann wird selbst im eco Programm heißer als deine für das Spülmaschine einräumen zu behinderten Schwuchtelhände jemals aushalten könnten. Vielleicht war das der dümmste Post den ich in 21 Jahren 4chan jemals gelesen habe. Danke dass du uns vor den Amischaben blamierst du dumme Sau.

Was machst du auf dem Technikboard wenn du nicht mal einfachste Rechnungen hinbekommst? Eine Spülmaschine verbraucht pro Auto-Programm rund 1kWh Strom, einen Tab oder Pulver für 11c, marginale Mengen Spezialsalz und Klarspüler, also etwa 40c die du mit deiner Warmwasserrechnung niemals hinbekämst. Bitte lass es einfach sein. Und für so einen Kackmongo musste ich vier mal dieses dumme Captcha lösen. Danke du Arschloch.

>>108897698
I had this argument last time I visited my parents, I must be an undiagnosed autistic because the way they use their dishwasher drives me crazy.
They only run it on eco because it uses less power and water (our water is unmetered), when I told them it uses fuck all power then it was because normal "takes to long" and mum says it's fine because you just rinse the dishes before putting them in.
I look inside and it's completely full, half an undissolved tablet stuck in the compartment (they won't buy powder), and half the plates aren't even rinsed.
They at least use rinse aid though.

>>108897970
Humiliation ritual

>>108902904
Your suppose to do that?

>>108897612
I will decline ever apartment that doesn't have a spot foir it.

>>108897698
It uses less electric heating and water than doing it by hand.

>>108897612
These things never get a dish actually clean. Nothing beats cleaning by hand. Real men use one dish and clean it immediately after dirtying

>>108902647
its not cope tho, I spend a lot of time in from of my computer doing stressful shit, the dishes is just some task I can accomplish outside of it to take my mind off things + you get dopamine from completing something and its not a big task like cleaning a whole room or whatever. It's like cooking in a way, and I think very few people will say ah na cookings not fun i just eat takeway or micrwave meals etc, cooking is hella fun

Still not using the dishwasher despite what some homoerotic Midwesterner corporate shill says
>b-b-but
I'm just not going to use it.

>>108905057
Anon, check your filter right now and post pics.

>>108897970
>>108898562
>>108899607
how do you guys avoid getting your hands dry or avoid having that disgusting rubber odor after washing dishes by hand?

>>108897612
Never had a dishwasher that reliably cleaned dishes. Ever. There's always some weird "hoop" to jump through for it to work well.

>>108897612
I live in a post-commie chicken cage and I have no space for one :(

>>108905307
>rubber
just dont put on gloves?

>>108905411
if I don't my hands get really dry...

>>108905188
I live in an apartment, if anything goes wrong there that is there problem not mine.

>>108905444
get moisturizing soap

it's honestly faster to wash the fucking thing instead of putting it in the dishwasher let alone putting it in and taking it out

>>108903068
Of course, because not flushing a toilet means that first, there might be a smell, and second, whoever next uses the toilet would have to see human shit.
How is not switching a lightbulb off anything like that at all? They're not comparable whatsoever.

>>108905714
I use hand cream and stuff, and my skin still breaks a little bit during winter or when I wash dishes.
some soaps are far worse than others though, so yeah, maybe I should try that.

I have never used my dishwasher. I do not like becoming reliant on technology.

>>108897612
they are good for a family
if you live alone and don't cook too much it takes no more than 5 minutes by hand

>>108897612
before you need 1 plate a spoon a fork and a knive.
you could cleant it with water in 1 minute just after eat finish.

now you need 20 plates, 20 spoons, 20 knives, 20 forks just to fill it up and special cleaner since the dried food sticks on the plate.

>>108897698
Look your mother could have been right>>108897766
>lso, most models are cold water only and use a lot of power.

>>108900420
yo i have the same one. its retarded as fuck but it does its job well

i never clean my pan with water. i just wipe it clean with kitchen paper

>>108906497
I had a roomate in college who did the same thing and after a week that shit was smelling rancid, everytime he fried eggs the whole dorm would smell

>>108906457
Mine works great, but I never connected it to the internet. Just unboxed it and powered it on.
Eventually I'll flash it to Valetudo

>>108906327
>if you don't use dishes you don't need a dishwasher
Great advice, Sherlock

>>108897612
Just use paper plates, like a man.

>>108903007
>It's kind of like how old people still assume boilers works like immersion heaters.
Explain please?

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>>108897612
thank you dear

>>108905307
Holy fucking gaypost. Pick up a shovel, an axe, start using your hands, get callouses and man the fuck up, FAGGOT

>>108907108
funny shit. I've had callouses since like 12. I worked summers since 12 and helped my (poor) mom make some money since like 6.
I bet I know how to use shovels and axes better than you..

>>108907131
Stop larping. If that was the case then you wouldn't give a dick about your hands being shriveled prunes for like a minute. That's some real dramaqueen shit.

>>108907155
>Stop larping
says the bot
whatever, retarded trollbot. keep talking shit about random people. I'm sure that will make you happier.

>your hands being shriveled prunes for like a minute
tell me how I know you've never had your skin cut itself for being too dry.

btw, I forgot to mention: I had cancer. my skin got even dryer after chemo.

>>108907170
>tell me how I know you've never had your skin cut itself for being too dry.
yes, because that's not a normal thing

>>108897612
It takes me almost as much time to arrange everything for a wash than just scrubbing it myself, unless it's really annoyingly greasy. And in order to get to that level of cleanliness it uses 3-4 different chemicals that over time ruin drinking glasses and other items.

>>108897737
In my experience the more expensive pods clean really good and they're convenient and less messy so I use those. I agree with you on rise aid, it's all the same.

Be sure to clean your clothes washing machine grate filter and empty the hose out for cleaner clothes. Also clean your fridges condensing coils to save power usage. Most importantly take apart your dryer's lint intake and clean the fan out of all of the dirt to save you from a fire.

>>108908277
>over time ruin drinking glasses
Refill rinse aid tank and read the labels on your crystal glass

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>>108907046
Nowadays, most boilers are "combi boilers". They heat water as the water passes through them, pretty much on demand. There's usually only a slight wait as the heater inside comes up to temperature.
In the past, boilers were often large tanks of water with an electric immersion heater, that took time to heat the water up, and time for the water to cool down. It had to be like that because the immersion heater couldn't heat water at the speed it flowed through, so you had to preheat a big tank of water if you wanted to wash dishes or take a bath or something.
Those immersion boilers were often kept in an attic, basement, or supply cupboard, and just generally weren't in very clean areas, and they weren't necessarily perfectly sealed, like (I hope) your plumbing to and from your combi boiler is. Bugs could get in there. I've even heard people say birds could poop in it. Also, the water could stand for a while if you didn't flush through the whole tank of hot water.
Older people remember that, and consider water from the hot tap unhygienic because of that, even though today the factors that meant in the past it may not have been as clean as the cold water are no longer relevant.
Picrel is a heating element used in an immersion boiler.

>>108909357
>In the past, boilers were often large tanks of water
That's still the case for my shitabode. Thanks for your explanation. It's annoying whenever I get jumpscared by cold water while drifting off into daydream kingdom.

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>>108909357
For a second I thought you are talking about kitchen appliance boilers and was like wtf why would anyone prefer passthrough trash to insulated tank (picrel).
My city has centralized hot water supply grid almost everywhere, otherwise people use passthrough gas heaters that are not called boilers in my language cause they don't boil shit, just make water hot enough to wash dishes etc.

>>108908277
this. i swapped to hand-washing dishes for the same reason i stopped using dryers. the handfeel of dishes that have been run through a washing machine is complete fucking ass.

>>108909332
>crystal glasses

>>108909502
Yeah, I've had one too. They suck.
They've actually killed people. In one case a hot water tank in an attic boiled over back into the cold water tank which failed, and the hot water came through the ceiling and killed a child.
A combi boiler is pretty much always a straight upgrade as far as I can tell. I think those immersion ones use slightly less energy but that's only if you time your usage well, which is pretty much impossible since you always have a ton of hot water left in the tank pointlessly venting heat.
>>108909550
>district heating
Nice. Do they use waste heat for that or does it have it's own dedicated heating plant?

>>108897612
>mine is silent
>doesn't stink
>comparing it to the previous one
kinda nice 2bqhwuf

>>108909571
>Do they use waste heat
Yes, combined heat and power plants. Only downside is yearly maintenance period. Some people cope and stink, some install electric heaters just to use them for a couple days in a year.

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>>108909357
Most American power sources aren't designed to handle that much wattage to enable smooth heating.

Even European flow-through boiler are usually limited to 2kW meaning there a limit on pressure.

In my country the vast majority of boilers sold is still immersion heating.

So that leaves gas boilers for flow through and most countries have incredibly strict regulations about it.

I think by far the best implementation of laws, regulations and usage I've seen in my life is Japanese flow through fascade water heaters. They require no chimnies, no special suace, you just put them on the fascade and run lines.

>>108904087
Kek, netter pfosten

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>>108909634
>Yes, combined heat and power plants. Only downside is yearly maintenance period.
Very nice. Japan?
>Some people cope and stink, some install electric heaters just to use them for a couple days in a year.
People love to complain about any old thing.
>>108909643
Mine's gas, as are all of the combi boilers I've seen in my country, the UK. The regulation as far as it affects me is only that someone certified has to install it. I don't think I would want to install my own gas lines anyway, to be honest.
>Japanese flow through fascade water heaters
Reading about these now. They seem like a good idea when the building allows for it. Can they work on multistory apartments without balconies? I guess they can pump the water up just like the normal flow of water into an apartment and all be installed on the ground floor for maintenance.

>>108903881
Dishwashers suck and the only time they would be useful (washing large stains or sticky messes), you need to wash by hand instead because they can't do it. The only time they work is with shit that's so clean you can wipe them in 5 seconds and be done.

>>108909550
Same in stockholm except the gas.

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>>108909762
Japan fundamentally builds apartments differently due to earthquake regulations so most have entrances in a common "balcony" entry way.

Only tower mansions are built where you enter from the inside in and they almost always feature balconies.

There no glass encased no entry buildings in Japan.

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>>108909890
Even in the most prestigious super expensive luxury tower projects you can easily tell what space is office space and what space if living space by the inclusion of balconies.

>>108897766
Youe house hot water supply isnt 70°C retard so unless you want half washed dirty dishes cold water only makes so much more sense

>>108909567
>handfeel
tits or gtfo WOMAN

>>108902878
>30ish cups, 6 plates, 6 protein shake cups, 18 glass containers for meal prepping, and a lot of spoons and forks.
mental illness

>>108902904
Have been using the same old Bosch dishwasher daily for 9 years now and not even once cleaned it. Also, I have never used anything but the cheapest Aldi pods. The heat exchanger broke a few years ago and I replaced it with the cheapest chink one I could find on AliExpress. It just werks

>>108910388
Bosch is losing customers man. You might have to shop for its replacement when it kicks the bucket.

>>108910402
Luckily, there is nothing that can break I can't fix. Too old for fancy shit.

>>108897612
Has a better support lifecycle than any modern operating system or major software package.

>>108909871
You are single and live alone.

>>108905153
>the dishes is just some task I can accomplish outside of it to take my mind off things + you get dopamine from completing something
This. It's not hard. That's why dishwashers haven't taken off like washing machines.

>>108905133
Then there's this. Dishwashers COULD work by now but they don't due to environmentalism. Everyone's houses I've been at required the dishes to rinsed and most of the food cleaned off first, then careful stacking. And the drying mode doesn't work either.

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It's convenient but since I started using it all my glasses became foggy

>>108910462
Why yes, I know I'm based. Thank you.

>>108910506
use jetdry dummy
>NOOOOO I DON'T WANNA BUY ANOTHER GOYLIQUID FOR MY JEWDEVICE
then shut up

>>108910699
But I REALLY don't want to buy another jewliquid for my goydevice...

>>108897810
>>108898057
Dryers are probably shooting for the next spot since most everyone (at least in the US) use vented units that run a heating coil. 100% is if you count in the conditioned air it leeches from inside the house and dumps outside.