Why does every design from Johny Ive look insufferable and anti-human?
>>108908343cause they're for rich people
Who is Johnny Ive
>>108908343Because that's the point, a deeply seated hate towards life and humanity.And they make electric cars bad looking so people don't buy them.
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>>108908343no wonder apple scrapped its car plan and fired jony
>>108908343ZOO-MER!ZOO-MER!ZOO-MER!ZOO-MER!if it doesn't look like a chinese sex toy it isn't true ZOOMERware
jesus, it looks like a hyundainot even ferraris look special anymore
>>108908383He’s the guy who made good designs for Apple and then he made bad designs for Applehe’s the Brit who says “aluminium” in ads
>le......LE MINIMALISM!!!!!!!!!!That's basically it. Soul is in the little details that look neat but aren't needed.
>>108908402>no wonder apple scrapped its car plan and fired jonyHOLY FUCK MY SIDES
>>108908343Looks cool and retrofuturistic, you're just a faggot, OP.Anyway, it belongs to /o/, not /g/
>>108909275>cool and retrofuturisticThis is my reaction too, I don't like the colour but otherwise it's nice. I was surprised to see so much hate, its interesting to have something different, and anyone with a shred of common sense knows this is a 4-seater e-vehicle aiming for a different demographic, it's not like all their sports cars will look like this from now on.
>>108908343>$40,000>ferrariimagine the ((quality)) you'll get from this hunk of junk
>>108908358Fpbp
>>108909348It’s 600k.
>>108909348>>$40,000LMAO You forgot a 0 there bro
>>108908343>Johny IveLiterally who?
>>108909405Oh wow it even comes with an iPad holder on the dash
>>108908343>people hate on shit looking the same, and hate on physical interfaces>they also hate on the cybertruck for being different but the wrong way, ie too angular>people rave about y2k-futurism aesthetic and how they wish it was brought back>2 of the biggest names in Y2k-futurism (Jony Ive and Mark Newson) craft a retrofuturistic car full of physical interfaces and a rounded design>people get madThis is why we can't have nice things
>>108909467*Marc Newson
>apple fanboys stalk disgraced apple designer, jony ive>disgraced apple designer does some obscure design for a $600k car which no apple fanboy can afford>there's still a hatewatch
>>108909405You know what guys? I now strongly believe that Ferrari is in fact simply the Apple Car design that Apple shitcanned and Ferrari bought for cheap.
>>108908343the interior on this actually looks really high quality, even for as many screens as it has it's all manual controls. no plastic anywhere.
>>108908343Reminds me of the old Alfa SZ.
>>108908996>aluminium At least he is intelligent, even if he has bad taste.
>Zoomers don't know Johny Ive
>>108909573both apple and ferrari are public companies. they would have to disclose such a deal.
>>108909663While you're right - car getting cancelled, Apple's designer going straight to Ferrari and this thing coming out relatively soon'ish after reeks a bit
>>108909663The Luce is very obviously the spiritual successor to the apple car. The design language screams it.
it looks like the iCar
>>108909678apple didn't give up on its car ambitions. they aren't giving out their ip for free.https://www.ft.com/content/523422ba-7ffd-11e6-8e50-8ec15fb462f4
>>108909974>>108910002it does not. apple car was always fully self-driving. passengers were facing each other, no one was looking out the front.
All EV sedans look the same so I’m not sure what the big deal is
>>108908343Agreed. His garage door design is shit.
he has made a successful career out of his tastes and intuitionyou just sling shit at himthere is a difference.
>>108908343Ford did it better 30 years ago
>>108908343I like it.
>>108909405k, not even memeing nor just shitting on Sir Jony for being the hack he obviously is. But THIS is fucking grim. Complete shit, in fact.
>>108912941fucking Logitech would blush at releasing this shite. srsly,
Why do you need a super fast car, to go to the supermarket?
>>108908343it looks like a soapbox racer lol
>>108912476Same designer, Marc Newson. People ITT are focusing on Jony Ive because they know him from Apple, but the design looks far more like Marc Newson's work imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3XEu6rFf54
desu i like the wipers and the fact it kind of looks like a train
>>108908343You can only rip off Deiter Rams for so long until you run out of designs to steal.
>>108909405If you took out the iPads and replaced them with regular gauges it reminds me a lot of the 05 Ford GT interior.
>>108910008>2016
>>108908343Because minimalism has always been his shtick and times have moved on and people have woken up to the fact that it's a soulless paradigm.He's just a literal boomer still putting out rounded edges uberminimalistic products like it's 2001 again.This is the boomers' idea of futuristic-cool, a frame with an empty area in the middle of it.>look ma im sculpting with empty spaces
>>108908343what a retard typical ferrari clown show
>>108909405lol this looks like it's from 2008 how much did they pay Jony for this
>>108910008Apple was in talks with a half dozen different legacy automakers over 10-15 years.None of them worked out.I think the closest they got was a Hyundai partnership.Realistically apple just didn't have the stomach to really break into the car market, even after the ~10-15 year development period apple is thought to have spent $10-15B on the project, but to setup a new car company from scratch that can rival existing legacy automakers would take $30-50B+. Apple just wasn't prepared to drop that kind of money and tried to partner with existing automakers, but then apple expected the same 50-100% markup they can get on laptops, phones, and tablets, but the car industry works on like a 5-10% margin, not 50-100% margins. So yeah, apple was just retarded in their businesses strategy and unwilling/unable to invest the money/time required to actually build a car brand and no existing legacy car brand wanted to give apple a slice of their profits just to partner with Apple.
>>108913472they got offered Tesla for an apple and change. And much as I have little time for either Co, that particular deal probably would have suited everyone att.The Gay Beancounter was just too much of a coward to take a leap one way or another.
>>108913489I mean, at the end of the day it PROBABLY was a smart move, sure they "wasted" $10-15B working on that damn car project, but they would've dumped 5x that or more over a decade of trying to run a real auto maker and even if it DID work, the earning margins would be razer thin.
>>108912476That looks like a datsun 510
Kinda nice to see this boomer slop brand get californized
>>108908343How does this $600k car have a worse performance than a $60k car from China? Who buys this shit?
>>108913518>$600k car have a worse performance than a $60k car from China?well that's normal for ferrari
>>108913518Because you're not paying for performance.You're paying for the brand.Ferrari gatekeeps their higher tier models and people who regularly buy EVERY ferrari model that releases (especially the lower end shit tier ones) will get prioritized for higher tier invite-only ferraris.When ferrari makes a model with only 50 or 100 cars being made, they don't announce the model and then wait for the first 50-100 people to call up and ask to buy one, they presell every single one to select "known" ferrari collectors before the car even gets announced publicly.Even just buying ferraris isn't enough to get you into the true upper tier of ferrari collectors, if you want those special cars you need to be involved with ferrari racing, show up to events, talk to people at ferrari at these events, etc, etc.So yeah, that $600k has very little to do with the actual vehicle you're buying.
>>108913553>In a first for the company, Ferrari will also give the same priority to accepting orders from new clients as opposed to giving first priority to its traditional customers.I'm not sure this is aimed at 'Ferrari collectors' per se. Its a €550,000 5-door saloon. Altho who - exactly - it is aimed at? Remains anyones guess.
>>108909405Everything else aside, the gauges are actually kino. I hope more car companies go in this direction instead of just using one big ugly sovless screen.
>>108908343He actually only did the interior design. This monstrosity was all ferrari.
>>108913656LoveFrom was involved in both interior and exterior design.
>>108909405I thought that was a fucking racing wheel setup
>>108913604Because this IS an entry level Ferrari (just priced higher than normal).They generally don't restrict buyers for their entry level models.It might not be for the bigger collectors, but if you want to get your foot in the ferrari door this is exactly the ferrari they want you to buy.
>>108913604>collectors don't want the very first electric ferrari??
>>108908343it's not even funny how lucky this fucker is. the absolute definition of failing upwards. he's worth $1 billion.
>>108913688??he would be even richer if he could have stayed at apple
>>108913504Yeah it'd be a failure 100x worse than the Vision headset.A superexpensive doodoo just to showcase the "Apple car vision" for a bunch of millionaires. Too much expense for very low margins. They would never recover the R&D spent.Despite them selling at high prices, so they can charge the Apple tax, their products are still somewhat accessible to normies as long as they starve for a year.
>>108913688Sir Ive did design *some* original (aka non Rams Back Catalogue) products tbf.
>>108913537Which 60k car from China has such performance?But anyway Ferarri now basically pivoted to being just a luxury car brand, instead of a top performance car brand, because EVs are simpler and it's battery tech that makes the difference. Everyone can build an electric engine. Theirs might be fancier but it's the same physics.
>>108913731xiaomi is doing fine
>>108913604It's a showcase model, they don't expect to sell much.More like announce to the world: this is it, we're starting to produce EVs and it's gonna be part of our offering from now on.But the first models are unlikely to sell much.Maybe the 2nd or 3rd, once they get it right.They're just testing the waters for now and correcting based on the reactions they get.So the next model is unlikely to be made by Ive.
>>108913748Yeah because it's built with cheap chinky labour, it's full of plastic and the interior is probably cheap and very standard.
>>108913748They could have just taken one of their classic designs and made it EV.And it would have looked better than this vacant turd
>>108913504>>108913731I'm disagreeing with you both here.Tesla + The Gay Beancounter would have made for a good match for one another, certainly a far better one than the halfwit currently in charge of Tesla. Apple did start their 'car project' for a reason after all - carz is still a consoomer product and, as Ferrari here are demonstrating, markup is what you make it. And Apple are generally pretty good at making that. I'm not o sure they could have bulit a carco from scratch, but Tesla, for next to nothing (att), it was a no brainer imo.
>>108913742And that was rightfully named the worst mouse ever designedBut it's not all Ive's fault. They were building 'normal' mice and then Jobs would crash their meetings and say: what the fuck is that, why does it look like what the competition does? Make it look like something nobody has, we need to set ourselves apart from them.Literally make it 'different' just for the sake of being 'apple' thing.
>>108913781nope, EVs have giant batteries, so you need a skateboard chassishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboard_(automotive_platform)
It looks like it belongs in San Francisco Rush 2049.
looks like it was designed by indians
>>108913789That was back in corona crisis times and Tesla was close to goind under.That's why Musk was willing to sell it.So for the bean counter guy, it must have looked like an expensive load of balast that would pull Apple down and make him sink money trying to make it profitable.Plus the regulatory scrutiny he'd get for having vested interests in two big markets with few players.Or maybe Apple didn't have that much money on hand to simply buy Tesla.
>>108913803I meant the design not the chassis.The car body lines.
>>108908343There a good reason.
>>108908343>>108909405Objectively looks good. /g/ has absolute garbage taste.
>>108908667>it looks like a hyundaiNah, Hyundai's version looks much better.
>>108913882>also available in bluemaybe missed the memo, but why tf is everything on wheels this same color now?
>>108913882Maybe i'm the weird one, but I much prefer the Luce to that hyundai.
>>108908343>kick him out once they've noticed he's out of ideas>he immediately embarrasses himself in his new job Apple can't stop winning.
>>108913848again, there's a giant flat battery all over the bottom for EVs, not just some drivetrain in the middle of the bottom like for ICEs.you cannot simply transplant an ICE design.
>>108913882nah if the ferrari were the ioniq 6 i would have been impressed. As the ioniq, the luce is superior to the ioniq 6. It fails as a ferrari though.
>>108913803They can shape the battery any way they like.Skateboard just offers the best stability and nicest cabin space.A skateboard design with holes for your butt to let you sit as low as possible would allow for a super sleek body.
>>108908343Forget the car, that looks like a nice place.>>108913882Ugly grill, looks like if parts had fallen off and you could see the insides of the car.
>>108913898For Hyundai the blue (with red stripe) is the color scheme for their high performance "N" line.I don't think normal Hyundai's ever come in that color.
>>108913904Now now, let's be reasonable here. He's still got that gig making the thing with Sam Altman, there's still plenty of room to be yelling "aiToddlers bfto."
>>108913947>Ugly grill, looks like if parts had fallen off and you could see the insides of the car.It's for cooling since it's a special high performance version, the regular Ioniq 6 doesn't have a grill. It's probably faster than that Ferrari.
>>108909405why is this allowed lmao
>>108914016cheaper than stalks
>>108908343this thing doesn't look as dumb as people are making it out to be but it doesn't look like a ferrari which is probably much worse
>>108909467They did not design the good y2k stuff
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>>108908386these people are satanists
>>108913882why does it look asian?
>>108914144Has anyone tried putting it into ChatGPT and saying make this EV look like a Ferrari?
>>108913445The comic sans makes it extra sophisticated.
>>108914371k
>>108914441again?
>>108914016How the fuck else are you supposed to strafe?
>>108913411>boomers' idea of futuristic-coolRounded minimalism is basically the norm for futuristic-cool for as long as cars have been mainstream>30s/40sStreamline moderne>50s-70sSpace age>90s/00sY2k-futurismThe 80s were a weird anomaly where angular futurism was the new meta, but even then Cyberpunk aesthetics are meant to be dystopian. Post-00s, futurism stopped being a mainstream movement entirely because everyone's a cynical fuck, as shown by everyone's reaction in this thread.
>>108913882No. Both are shit. But the Ioniq 6 remains the ugliest car in current production. It's a droopy, blobby disaster from every single angle.>>108914016When they started using column mounted paddle shifters they removed the stalks to avoid obstructions behind the wheel. Some other manufacturers have wheel mounted paddle shifters and keep the stalks, but have to move them further away to avoid conflicts since the paddles take priority.
>>108912992I guess that once every car in the world has self-driving capability there will be no speed limits imposed on the highway. You can go as fast as you want because it’s the computer doing the driving.You’re going to be speed limited on other roads tho. If you don’t go on the highway your supercar will be useless. I guess that you can go faster if you have an emergency. There will very likely be a system to report directly to the police if you went faster than allowed, sending all the video footage to them. You might have to tell the car that you have an emergency for it to go faster than allowed.
>>108909405I actually think this is great design, just not for a fucking Ferrari. There's a time and place
>>108908343Why does it have paddle shifters if it's electric? Pretty ugly anyway. Ferraris latest designs have been pretty shit tho.
>>108908343holy fuck that's a Johhny I've design? dude can only rip off others nonstop
>>108908343>>108913445>>108913748>>108913882these all look the same to me because they are the same color and shape
>>108908343Ive has always designed absolutely inhuman bullshit, but now he doesn't have the backing of billions worth of brainwashing and psychological warfare behind him
>>108908667breaks wind like priuspossibly similar looks too
