>>108912033
did you know that Ken Thompson's Reflections On Trusting Trust apply to natural language as well and you can never know if you actually know what the words you are saying mean?

i don't care if its FOSS or whatever. I'm not using a phone with a google tensor chip that is 100% going to have infinitely more backdoors than snapdragon/mediatek/apple chips

>>108912033
holy slop

This board is more tech illiterate than /lgbq/

>>108912088
spbp

>>108912033
1. Don't use apps. Use vanadium and bitwarden to manage passwords.
2. Don't use YouTube or any other google aervice. Use Pipe pipe.
3. Don't use the google search engine, use duckduckgo or something else.
4. Don't use Gmail, use proton or cock.mail or whatever.
It's really simple, unless you're a retard ... Which you are.

>>108912088
>NOOOOOO MUH TENSOROONEE CHIPAREENO. GOOGLE IS GUNNA HAXORZ MUH PHONE!!!! AAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>108912033
Are making the argument that the corpos are indeed perverse kikes with multiple mechanical designers to fingerprint and spy on their users?

>>108912127
>bitwarden
Why not KeePassDX?

*mechanisms
*designed

>>108912145
... in which case there is actual justification to come up with ways of circumvention and obfuscation?

>>108912151
Nothing with KP I'm just used to BW

>>108912165
>VPN hides traffic
>DNS hides queries
ISP BTFO
>Firewall stop unnecessary inward/outward leaks
>Adblock prevents unnecessary connections
Telemetry and advertisment fags BTFO

>>108912127


Calling people retards while failing basic OpSec is peak irony. Your 'simple' setup leaks like a sieve:

Vanadium doesn't support extensions (like uBlock). You’re raw-dogging the web. Google Analytics, Fonts, and reCAPTCHA are still tracking your IP and behavior on 80% of the non-Google websites you visit.
PipePipe connects directly to Google servers (googlevideo.com). If you aren't routing that through a strict VPN or Tor, Google still logs exactly what your home IP is watching. No account needed.
ProtonMail is useless the second you send an email to anyone using Gmail or Google Workspace. Google still scrapes the metadata and maps your social graph.
Infrastructure: Half the internet runs on Google Cloud Platform.

You locked down your device but forgot Google owns the network. You aren't invisible – your hyper-specific Graphene+Vanadium setup just makes your browser fingerprint stick out even more.

Official android generates a bunch of logs and sends megabytes worth of data back to the skynet. Rooted phone with a firewall and hostblock prevents this. Offline apps don't just get to ping their home at will.

OP is a gigantic faggot

>>108912225
Stand out to who? The services I am already subscribed to?
>OHHHH SHIT KRAKEN KNOWS I LOGFED INTO OWN ACCOUNT TO BUY ETH... WHATEVER WILL I DO????
Running PipePipe through Mullvad... Google can't see jack.
I only have a small snapshot of my set up.

>>108912082
>did you know that Ken Thompson's Reflections On Trusting Trust apply to natural language as well and you can never know if you actually know what the words you are saying mean?
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>108912235
You're right about OS telemetry, but GrapheneOS, root, and firewalls only stop your phone from snitching. They don't stop the internet from snitching on you.

The second you actually browse the web, local hostblocks won't save you from browser fingerprinting, server-side tracking, or the fact that half the web runs on Google Cloud infrastructure. If you load a site with embedded Google Analytics, solve a reCAPTCHA, or interact with anyone using a Gmail address, Google still profiles your IP, network, and behavior.

You successfully locked down the device, but Google owns the roads.

I'm throwing my phone in the trash where it belongs. And judging by how things are going, my PC will follow soon.

>>108912248
kraken uses google infrastructure

another fucking idiot bashing graphene
it's never been about a one-stop solution to privacy, retard, pretty sure graphene explain this in depth on their faq/wiki/etc
we do what we can to make it harder to get tracked
also none of the crap you're spewing about standing out more because you're using graphene has any basis in reality, you can claim whatever tinfoil shit you want i guess, fucktard

>>108912033
>>108912225
>>108912258
You have to change the prompt enough so that it doesn't sound like an AI.

>>108912033
as you know who always said there are no solutions only tradeoffs
certain kinds of privacy require you to either forego doing certain convenient things or take on finger-printablility.

and yes graphere is very good at what it does even if some parts of it are easy to fingerpring

>>108912276
hes just saying, that google tracks graphene users just as the average normie. you are not special. you are just a victim of a typical snake oil product.

>>108912033
privacy larpers don't understand this, it's the same with (((tor))), tails, vpns, etc

more importantly, privacy larpers don't understand the concept of (((hardware backdoors)))

>>108912296
and i'm saying it's not about just flashing graphene and getting instant privacy. it just makes it easier by not giving play services uninstallable-root-access and by making sure basic security is in place for people who know what they're doing.
if you're arguing that graphene isn't for normies then i'll agree.

>>108912258
>You successfully locked down the device, but Google owns the roads.
Fine, I won't resist for the argument sake. What's the best way to break the web Tor style but using the mobile?

>>108912270
Oh noooo!
I don't think you get it. There is no way, zero, that you could ever be completely anonymous unless you simply logout forever.
That point isn't striving for the ridiculous. The point is reducing the threat level.
Who do you think is sacrificing privacy more:
Me
>Zero subscriptions and streaming services. Jellyfin, Finamp, Kavita, Nextcloud, RomM
>Proton mail
>Void Linux with hardens browsers
>LLMs only
>Graphene with ZERO Google
>Etc etc etc
OR
Random Normal Cattle NPC #1837362
>Samsung watch to send Samsung their heart rate, sleeping patterns, steps per day
>Full on Google ecosystem to send Google everything detail about
>Windows with no hardened browsers to send Microsoft every detail of their online lives.
>Netflix, Spotify, Google Cloud, et al
Hmmm? Tell me the simpleton NPC is as equally as exposed as I am. Go ahead.

>>108912336
depends what websites the first user is regularly visiting. 80% of websites are infected by google. they track you just like the normie you despise.

>>108912336
>The point is reducing the threat level.
this.
these groidjeet chimpanzees just can't get it, their piss-riddled IQs are too low.

>>108912336
>Hmmm? Tell me the simpleton NPC is as equally as exposed as I am. Go ahead.
you're just as exposed aa the simpleton NPC because you literally are one, you just happen to think you're special and smart enough not to be and at this point your delusions are almost cute but in a pitiful kind of way
you completely missed the point btw, if you haven't realized it yet your browsing habits are what make you stick out

>>108912357
You're reaching now. There is no way in hell Google is collecting the same telemetry on me as they some normie using stock Android with Google Play Services.
It's not even close and you know it

>>108912033
>blindfolds Google
kek muh sandbox where you still login with google account is blindfolding you guise

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>>108912374
>There is no way in hell Google is collecting the same telemetry on me as they some normie using stock Android with Google Play Services

>>108912374
>some normie using stock Android with Google Play Services.
are you using different google account for each sandbox? doesn't matter as they see all 5-10 accounts pinging from same IP address, so yeah they are tracking you just as a normie AOSP user, even better than a normie with microg kek

Hey OP, nobody deluded themselves with the belief that 100% anonymity is achievable. At best all the effort made is to reduce the logs, telemetry and advertisement which is all too commonly these days. Using spoofers, VPN, DNS and blockage of third-party cookies makes enough of the difference to continue doing it. Everyone with a clue understands that 100% privacy cannot be achieved using online unless of course one opts for untraditional means of burner devices.

>>108912143
>queue in every single mutt company KNOWN to have nsa backdoors

>>108912404
I'm not using any google account. None. Zero. Zip.

>>108912411
but graphene doesn't even try, they are security first (muh no privacy without security, so lets sell out to google play services for security instead of fdroid and open source that doesn't track you), you're paying with your privacy for security schizo decisions

>>108912404
play services on a rooted, degoogled android os like graphene or lineage isn't given the same level of access over the system as it would have on stock
so yes it's better

>>108912434
>degoogled android
>play services
kys retard

>>108912411
this
it's about harm reduction
how are these pajeets this dumb
i guess it's not their fault they think in a low iq binary way where if something isn't perfect, then you should just go back to getting raped by google or microsoft

>>108912439
it's ok pajeet, i get that you're retarded and the logic of that statement is beyond you

>>108912449
>muh degoogle
>muh lets install googol play
yeah, this is the average graphene user IQ, you go girl, so secure and private, googol doesn't even know about you

>>108912463
degoogling means you remove google's root-level access, dumbfuck jeet. installing play services over graphene isn't the same as having google control your device like on stock.
hope that helps.

>>108912033
make a game about this; i'd buy it.

>>108912474
yeah, literally lineage is more degoogled than deranged graphenefags

>>108912481
the ganges parasites seem to be getting to you, pajeet. it's okay i understand.

>>108912441
GrapheneOS enjoyer, what google gets:
>Hmmm he likes going to 4chan
>Hmmm he has a pixel 10 pro
>Hmmm his IP is...
Retarded Jeet, what google gets
>Average heart rate
>Sleep patterns
>Daily physical activity
>Every single place they went during the day
>Access to their emails
>Access to their text messages
>Knowledge of every app they use
>Access to their photos
>Shopping habits
>Spending habits
>Access to contact list
>Access to finger print (jeets LOVE biometrics)
I mean, I could go on... But yes, it's the Graphene users that are retarded, not the droidjeets.

>>108912488
>>Hmmm he likes going to 4chan
>>Hmmm he has a pixel 10 pro
>>Hmmm his IP is...
you forgot the pedo part

>>108912488
the mistake is in ascribing the level of sentience to shitjeets that they understand the android device is not controlled by lakshmi the toilet witch or something
these biomass do not have higher thoughts, they barely even have what we would consider thoughts

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>>108912505
What's wrong with the rape of children? It's perfectly legal.

>>108912520
gotta sandbox it

>>108912441
>i guess it's not their fault they think in a low iq binary way where if something isn't perfect, then you should just go back to getting raped by google or microsoft
kek the lack of self-awareness here is hilarious
this kind of shit is very much a binary issue, retard
what's the point of taking all sorts of precautions, being wary at all times and making both your browsing experience and using your phone miserable only to get tracked and identified anyway? you're vastly underestimating just how little it takes to identify you by your browsing habits
you don't gain a resistance to bullets if you shoot yourself with bbs first
>b-b-b-but ackshully this is more like wearing a bulletproof vest, it still hurts b-b-b-but---
the vest is made out of cardboard you muppet

>>108912529
retarded muttoid analogies

>>108912537
>jeet immediately goes mask off
kek QED

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>>108912525
Oh ADL dose plenty of sandboxing. Just ask the Maxwell gang

>ai slop bait thread
>ai slop taking the bait replies
It's a little said to look at threads like these and realise that we can never go back to how it used to be.

>boooohooo my shitposting isn't handmade anymore!

>>108912033
Blindly trusting software written by a bipolar paranoid schizophrenic seems like a great idea if you ask me.

>>108912225
at least take out the hyphen....

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>>108912033
>PRIVACY BAD!!!

>>108912033
Grpahene is a hard sell right now because google aren't exactly playing nice with the open source community right now. They're basically going to outlaw installing apps on your own hardware before long so what chance does graphene have of survival? Every alternative phone OS depends on google to some degree but graphene needs their phones that they can just enhittify at any point.

>>108912225
>Just give up, bro
>You're only making things harder for them, you're not actually winning.
>It's better to just hand over your data directly to them than having them go through all this shit just to get your data.

Motorola our HEROES

>>108912033
I just want a phone with a headphone jack, physical buttons and a keyboard that's NOT vertical.

>>108912033
It's about boycotting as much as possible. Users of the operating system are not supporting something that outright harms their personal lives. GrapheneOS is also superior because Google really messed up Android. And the hardware can be addressed long term and GrapheneOS is transitioning from Pixel devices with the announced partnership in 2027.

>>108913550
GrapheneOS has no future. It's the best OS I've ever used, but I'm not going to buy another Pixel or Motorola phone.

>>108913857
>GrapheneOS has no future.
Except with Motorola?
>It's the best OS I've ever used, but I'm not going to buy another Pixel or Motorola phone.
Why not?

>>108913550
>>108913857
>They're basically going to outlaw installing apps on your own hardware before long so what chance does graphene have of survival?
>GrapheneOS has no future.
GrapheneOS is based on Android Open Source Project (AOSP) code and does not include Google Mobile Services. Consequently, Google’s new developer verification rules, which are enforced via Google Play Services, do not apply to the OS level on GrapheneOS. Users can continue to install F-Droid and its apps without Google’s verification. GrapheneOS maintains full control over its ecosystem and does not need to comply with Google’s proprietary restrictions. While the OS allows installation, some individual apps or websites may use Google’s Play Integrity API to detect non-certified devices and refuse to run. This is a choice by third-party developers, not an OS-level ban by Google on GrapheneOS. GrapheneOS remains a viable workaround for users who refuse Google’s verification.

>>108913943
https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1960373902892310671
https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/2053557957317513443
https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/2053551736543936594

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>>108912033
Not reading all that.
How's the weather over there at Langley?

>>108913984
Is there anything to do except hang on for dear life and try to use grapheneOS for as long as possible? Why roll over and accept defeat? If they stop allowing GrapheneOS to use services I will stop using those services. I use 2 proprietary apps and both do not seem to be impeding on my usage. In terms of websites and the likes, I usually use them on my computer.

>>108913984
>>108914282
Solution: Stop using those specific apps and services.

Glownigger FUD thread.

fingerproonting is theoretical mumbo jumbo

>>108912088
this
personally I use apple because that's what Yossi Cohen (future israeli PM) uses

>>108912082
This sounds very jewish.

>>108913984
This is the exact reason you should use GrapheneOS or another alternative operating system. Having your entire life tracked and controlled by two corporations is insane and everybody complying with it is complicit in humanity's downfall.

>>108912033
This is false. There is no chatter or built in telemetry

>>108912258
Profiles it for what? What can they possibly do with knowing my IP address is associated with nofags.com (OP can't go there) or hnnnnnngggg@gmail.com? I don't do much of anything and my life is extremely boring.

>>108912082
Most people are not sapient beings who are aware of what they are saying most of the time anyway, once you realize this life becomes more bearable.
For instance, OP.

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>>108912225
retarded, drooling, knuckle-dragging 80 iq niggers genuinely out here proompting shitposts

a good starting point would be: feed everything through wireguard, use adguard home at wireguard exit point with "no google" and "encrypted dns" blocklists.

all google connections are blocked and must be proxied or vpn'ed to access any google services. this prevents alternative front end apps from background connecting to google services

>>108912127
Why even have a smartphone at this point?

>>108912225
fucking hell they weren't kidding

>>108912088
>My evil multinational corporation is better than yours

>>108912033
>By ripping out default trackers, your "empty" digital footprint actually makes you stick out like a sore thumb in the crowd. You're not invisible; you're just wearing a neon sign that says "privacy freak."
This is what they want you to think.

Reading some of these posts gives me a headache.
The average IQ ITT is like below 80.

>>108912033
Don't care. Still using it on my Pixel 10a. It's a nice OS with no bloat that just works for me.

>>108914926
This

>>108916293
To make phone calls and send text messages

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