>2026>laptop battery life still suckswill this ever get solved?
>>108918936and I thought I just made a bad purchase
>>108918942laptop batteries seem to only be there for keeping the laptop alive while in sleep during your commute
>>108918936Apple solved this problem six years ago.
>>108919060can't install linux on apple
Not a problem on my system76
>>108918936>solve batteries?>NOOOOO NOOOOO NO NO NO! HOW DARE YOU HARM MY PROFITS!!!!!!!big battery will never let it happen
>>108918936It is kind of a solved problem... You can't really solve this issue with regular batteries. There's limits on how much you can pack on a single device for shipping purposes. I'm not sure if this is a logistic/safety issue or government being retarded. Probably both as always.What you can do today is get something that charges with USB-C (T480 for example) and user power banks/power packs, or something that has AC output, but those are bulky as fuck and you can't really put them on a backpack. It's more reasonable to carry a 20000 mAh extra battery to charge your laptop.Other thing that would be nice is, just like the T480 from the example prior, is that if more laptops had the double-battery setup like it has, so you have an internal battery and a removable one, so you can just carry extra and keep going like that without having to shut down the laptop. I'm only aware of the T480 that does this recently, but there's probably more options from other vendors.This is all with current hardware, mind you. The proper way to solve this is reducing power usage even further, which is difficult to do, since the screen is big and is usually what consumes most of the energy. My V14 probably can handle, at best, 3 hours currently with brightness at around 40%. Which isn't great, not horrible, but depends on the use-case, as always.
>>108919060Get tf off this board
MBP
intel has been doing a lot in this area lately
1. Smaller resolution or2. E-ink
>>108919117You can't defeat entropy anon
>>108918936lemme guess>buys a shit laptop that was obviously shit if you think about it for 0.1ms or more>probably one of "Asus Gamefaggot 9000x Max3D+" (powered by 2x GE aircraft engines), or eBay'd a PajeetNovo T430 from 1992 (included battery dead since 1996)>installed ganoo troonix on it>complains about battery life on /g/eetop kek>>108919133I've always wondered, are people like you just trying to bait clueless retards (such as op), or do you sincerely think think the shit you write?
>>108919096usecase for linux
>>108919197>tfI think YOU should leave this board, you insufferable zoomer faggot
>>108920691Go ahead and prove otherwise, and point where you think I'm wrong.
>>108918936The new SoC laptops are actually doing a really good job with this, Intel's lunar lake series has like 11+ hours of battery life.
>>108919096Macbooks come with a superior UNIX OS. Linux is a downgrade.
>>108920859>It is kind of a solved problem... You can't really solve this issue with regular batteriesmultiple laptops on the market have 15+ hours of battery life in real usage, on the same old battery tech we've had for the past decades (ie not even the "new" silicon batteries we see popping up on some phones)and it's not even an apple-only thing anymore as of fairly recently>if more laptops had the double-battery setupconsidering the above, when you write this I find it hard to take it seriously>My V14 probably can handle, at best, 3 hours currently with brightness at around 40%. Which isn't great, not horrible, but depends on the use-case, as always.don't mean to make it personal, but "depends on the use case" is putting a *lot* of work here, cause 3 hours is pretty atrocious, and makes it really hard to take your message seriously
>>108919096asahi
>>108921243Battery life in hours has nothing to do with capacity. You're capped at capacity due to logistic constraints, so you need to carry extra or make the entire device use less energy. I just added a personal quip about my own experience, that's all.So, unless we can start making devices that run just as good but with 6W instead of 45W, we're not getting extra hours. It'll happen, but that takes time.Which battery an OEM uses depends a lot on device size, weight and use-case. I'd love for my laptop to run all day without charging, but that's not what it was made to do. It's an 11th gen intel laptop with a fucking TN screen, so of course the battery life isn't going to be great. It's also made to be cheap.So, until we can do the same with nearly 1/9th the total capacity, the other solution (battery bank, or double battery setup like in the T480, for example) is kind of necessary. Yeah, there are laptops that can last for 15+ hours. Great. How expensive are they, what CPU are they running, what cooling solution, etc. This all takes more or less energy, depending on what you want that device to be, and what kind of user is going to be using it. Power profiles are also huge here.
really? I get 7.5 hours on my x260 running Kubuntu 26 w/ plasma6. I didn't do any tdp or whatever shit, either, just whatever is in the kde settings.original batteries too.
>>108921326>Battery life in hours has nothing to do with capacitybut my brother in Christ, battery life in terms of capacity is entirely meaningless. if anything only life in hours matters.what good is that unobtainium 10 gorillion gigawatt-hour battery if the device eats through it in 1 hour?>unless we can start making devices that run just as good but with 6W instead of 45W, we're not getting extra hours. It'll happen, but that takes time.I mean, you're kinda asking for it at this point... the one laptop that's been plastered all over this board in bait threads for the last 2 months or something?>Yeah, there are laptops that can last for 15+ hours. Great. How expensive are they$599>what CPU are they running4W to 10W TDP which outperforms the (after a google search) "11the gen intel" 1165G7 you have going on by something between 20% and 50%https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-1165G7+%40+2.80GHzhttps://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+A18+Pro+%28MacBook+Neo%29&id=7232>what cooling solutionthe funny thing about power efficiency is that it gives you thermal efficiency for free, so you don't need a complex (and cost+battery inefficient) cooling solutionI think teardowns showed it's a flimsy thin heat pad? apple hating the idea of caring about cooling as usual, but entirely irrelevant in practice is the whole pointand it's not just apple, the neo is just a really fucking answer to your post, see >>108921110
>>108921586>a really fucking answerreally fucking easy* answerit's late, goodnight anons
>>108919197Learn how to argue it you dislike reality
>I want my computer to have the battery life of a cell phone or tablet but without the weaker hardware that entailsThat's not how batteries work.>>108920691>OP is literally discussing a thinkpad>HURR DURR GAYMING COMPOOTER COLORS ARE GAY LOLZRetard.
>>108918936>xhe boughted poozenLMAO
>>108921660op has said nothing about gayming, so what are you even mumbling about?and even aside you being a visible retard, the best gayming laptops (if one insists on it) aren't the overpriced LED slop you allude to, which add a 2x multiplier on the actual hardware for slapping the cheapest LEDs imaginable over the most chinesium of PVC they could possibly find rotting in the depth of the chinese jungle to trick stupid 12 years oldif anything, the least-worst choice on the shitty path of mobile gayming would be those dull grey workstations from the likes of dell and HP that are aimed at CAD professionals and at least give you something for the pricethere's a few exceptions to this, but they are vanishingly rare, because it's easier (and more profitable) for OEMs to trick 12 years old than cut their margins to make a decent product
Just get a chromebook.
>>108919096>can't install worse unix on my unixbookoh no?
>>108921755Read the discussion chain you absolute fucking mongoloid.
What are you talking about though, I have a 6 core stinkpad that was $200 that gets like 7-8 hours of use, when do you need more than 7-8 hours of use that you can't plug your laptop into a phone charger at some point
>>108922199Same here, I have Thinkpad from 2022 running Artix and get about 9 hours of battery life on average with mixed usage, often with a video playing to the side. Would more be nice? Sure. Do I need it? Not really.
Does only charging to 80% actually help or is it placebo?
>>108918936Except it's solved already with Apple Silicon and Intel's Panther Lake
>>108922424lunar lake also solved it btw
>>108918936Not until straight white men start designing laptops again. The problem is - women and gays (promoted in the workforce by jews) demanded lightweight and thin designs. Straight white men would have kept the 1.5" thick form factor and while components got smaller and more energy efficient, that space would be filled with batteries. By now, we could have fat cyberdeck slabs that would run for 48 hours.
Once you realize that a laptop doesn't have to be as powerful as your atx tower with hoses and radiators the battery life gets a lot better
>>108918948your laptop also doesnt S3 anymore it S0's which is basically not even sleep mode, it will consume your whole battery in 6 hours as opposed to 3 days. Windows broke S3 sleep mode in 2021.
>>108919117big battery? you mean small battery?
>>108918936we moved on to tablets
>>108918936The solution : read a review which doescbrowsing/video battery rundown tests.
how much does the graphics processor draw compared to the CPU, maybe low res software so the GPU doesn't need to run all the time?
Can someone explain to me how this isn’t solved by various ARM laptops? It’s no longer just kekbooks - plenty of windows laptops use those snapdragon chips now too.>inb4 muh performanceA laptop is a supplementary device for on-the-go use. You’d surely just do your gayman or rendering or whatever else on your desktop?
>>108921130>I can't install the OS that's superior in every way>therefore it must actually be inferior, why else would a for-profit company deny this from me and forcefeed their own garbage??Applecucks just have an empty space where the brain is supposed to go. I bet you also bought all their other products since "they work so well together and so poorly with anything else!". Zero critical thinking skills.
>>108926074>sucks>slow>have to emulate 99% of the programs you use every day because they're all made for x86>using a phone chip in a pc
idk what you're talking about my MacBook Pro lasts like 20 hours
>>108924425Nobody uses tablets
>>108922146the only justification for how you dropped your spaghetti all over the thread is in your head anon
>108926472>can't read>replies to posts he can't comprehend in a discussion he's not a part ofFuck off back to the sharty.
>>108918936I havea laptop with one of those new three digits Intel and I get around 8h of browsing, AIMP and vscode running at the same time
