I read a story about how Microsoft colluded with some manufacturers to make it harder for a certain driver to work on non-Microsoft devices, I can't remember what the exact story was. Is this the same deal with NVIDIA and their slow support of Linux? What's the back story on why Linux support has always been so slow and shitty?
Um... it just works now
that's just the nature of proprietary softwareyou're at the mercy of the megacorp's appetite to allocate development for your tiny market shareAMD open sourced their shit ages ago and were overall much more collaborative, nowadays their drivers are literally part of the kernel
>>108919223Nvidia support was always fine. My first Linux experience was over 10 years ago with Nvidia proprietary drivers and they never crashed compared to Windows.The issue is that Nvidia drivers are only tested on specific kernels. Ergo support is "bad" according to Linux hobbyists who want to run any arbitrary kernel version as untested kernels can lead to unexpected behavior.What nobody tells you is if you install Ubuntu and just use the recommended drivers you'll likely be fine.
>>108919223works fine for gpgpu, not always for desktopsdesktops are just not nvidia's priority, that's pretty much it
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>>108919223They make the internals obtuse on purpose so people who can't pass the shibboleth can't develop drivers for it.
just werks btwexcept for wayland (troonware, not needed)
>>108919223IIRC nVidia drivers only target a subset of kernel releases
>>108919223I've never had a problem with nVidia on Linux.
>>108919223I've been on Nvidia for 10 years, the support has been great in the last five years, barely had any issues.The thing with AMD is you have drivers working ootb, while installing nvidia drivers take you a couple of minutes, it not like you are not setting up shit or installing packages anyway.However, RoCM is shit, and AMD encoding was extremely terrible until last year when they finally imported working AMF encoders to Linux. Any kind of good GPU computing use case needs nvidia or Intel. Even fucking Intel has shown more promise and delivered more. That's it, not saying NVIDIA is the best option ever, if I could drop NVIDIA I would. If Radeon had been at least half as innovative and efficent as NVIDIA, we wouldn't be drowning in this mess. I have bought radeon cards and always regret it.
>>108920962Thats not the case....Why the fuck do people make shit up about the Nviida drivers all the time?
>>108921298They got priced out of team green's hardware 10 years ago and they've been seething ever since.
>>108921191I really don't like putting up with nvidia's bullshit on desktop so I run a Radeon card for my desktop and have a different box for CUDA
nvidia drivers are bad everywhere retard
>>108921329>I really don't like putting up with nvidia's bullshit on desktopWhat "bullshit"? Use your words.
>>108921338>leave the trillion dollar company alone
>>108921343Anon, I'd be happy if a better option came around and Nvidia burned to the ground. But thats not the fucking topic, its about weather the drivers work or not. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>108919223Because it's proprietary. You know ATI/AMD used to be shitty too, even worse than Nvidia but then they made an Open Source driver.
>>108921338>wayland randomly crashing>usb-c multi monitor fucked up>x11 manual setting instead of auto>x11 crashing>x11 multi monitor slowness on alt refresh screens>deprecation of old gpus in main driverand the list goes on
>>108921370Works on my machine. Let me guess, you're using some shitty distro like Fedora?
>>108921370>slow implementation of wayland and vulkan extensions / features>hyprland and similar not working (last i checked)
>>108921387I've used arch, debian, ubuntu, mint, in hopes that my issues go away but no, it's just the shitty driver>works on my machineSure, then why there's a lot of people complaining as well. Don't get me wrong, I have a 3090 and a 3060 running Debian and I use them a lot, but that's just how it is
>>108921298>>108921321Stop whining
>>108921370on windows my whole system crashes if i try to play an opengl game while having two monitors with different refresh ratest. Titan X
Nvidia has good Linux driver support its not 2010 anymore. As of 11 hours ago if you use the latest Nvidia drivers and the latest vkd3d-proton you will no longer have performance loss with Dx12 games anymore. Nvidia cards are now the best option for gaming on Linuxhttps://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/pull/2943#issuecomment-4553619609
works on my machine
>>108919333Over 10 years ago is 2016, Linux has been mainstream enough for decent hardware support since 2014.Zoomers need to stop thinking like a decade ago means anything when it comes to linux.
>>108921846People will still be saying Nvidia Linux bad for years to come because they heard someone else say it who heard someone else say it
As much as I wish their drivers were in the kernel like AMD and I didn't have to deal with enabling the non-free rpmfusion repos and signing the drivers if I want to use secure boot, NVIDIA's propietary Linux drivers work fine.
>>108919333How are you getting so much instability in windows?
>>108922597Mind you this was like 2013-2014About the only game in Linux that I played or was playable was Minecraft and surprisingly it crashed on a fairly regular basis often had graphical problems under Windows with my gtx 560 tiThat never happened under Linux.This was across 2 different GPUs in Windows so I know it wasn't hardware.
>>108922643>This was across 2 different GPUs in Windows so I know it wasn't hardware.it could've been memory as well
