The gabecube is fucked isnt it
>its real
>Sold outValvedrones will buy anything
>>108919678>$1000 for e-wasteshan't be me buying
>>108919678I wonder how they fucked up so much, but Steam Decks and presumably all their other hardware is very low volume, they just don't have the negotiating power that say Dell or HP does. HP probably sells more of their entry level laptop than Valve will ever sell of their hardware in a lifetime, per year. They literally have to fight for scraps.
>>108919678BASED. I love it when fat, poor, retards are trying to pay rent and drop dosh on something like a steam deck, then slap a Lamborghini wallpaper as the background. The ignorance that poor purchasing decisions are actively decimating their net worth while burning their time on man-child timesinks.
>>108920011>net worthuse case?
>>108919678like all good tech the best and only time to buy it is on release.
>>108920038You'll never have a usecase for net worth because you have none! ZASED!
>>108920011>putting Lamborghini wallpapersmost retarded shit to make up
>>108919863Valve hardware is a loss leader. Doesnt matter how much they lose on steam decks. If Nintendo babies decide to use steam as their gaming platform then valve eats up 30% of all their spending from there on out. R&d for them must be cheap considering they have such a small workforce and ginormous margins (guessing but unlikely otherwise)
Valve CAN sell at a loss because they make much much more on game sales. PC chuds will buy thousands of games they'll never play and Valve knows this. So why are they raising prices? King Chud needs a new yacht?
>>108920171Go and look at Reddit buddy! All the inspiration is there from your mates!
>>108920212i'm good, go enjoy your updoots and gold from kind strangers, faggot.
>>108919678I wasn't going to buy it anyways.
And people were saying the steam machine could be under a thousand, maybe even around 650Well cucks, it's going to be 1k starting kek
>>108920252Except you were
lmao that steambox is going to be over $1k, dead on arrival
Why would you not buy an Ally X at that price point?
>>108920285>ASUS>Not utter dogshit made by the most anti consumer company in the tech worldHmmmm it's a mystery!
*installs gamenative or moonlight*nothing personal, gaben
(AMD are winding down production of the SOC that Valve are using so they can build more profitable chips, thanks to the fact Valve use a custom chip rather than something off the shelf they are getting bent over a barrel for them now)
lol out of stock go ahead valvedrones with your $100 controllers defend itgaben needs more yacht fuel
>>108919678Fuck the Jews.
>>108919678$1000 for 6 year old SOC btwwell it worked for playstation so why not
You don't need a Steam Deck.You don't need a Steam Machine.You don't need video games.You don't need a personal computer.You don't need affordable tech.You don't need privacy.You don't need human rights.You don't need to stay alive.Now say thank you or else.
>>108920450Well, you kind of voted for it. Just saying. At any point in time you could have stood up for your rights but I guess man-child games were more important at that stage. Just a thought.
>>108920573>>Well, you kind of voted for it.IT's true2 years ago I WENT YES TO AI YES TO 6000% PRICINGYES TO SMUG POSTS ON 4CHAN YES TO IT ALL
So, are we facing another surge in part prices and valve are getting ahead of it? Because I noticed prices have been relatively stable lately.
>>108919678yeah, no thanks. i'll just use my phone with moonlight.
>>108919678$1000 for a zen 2 based device is fucked. My ryzen 9 365 laptop was $700, has like twice the performance and doesn't even have a dgpu.You're unironically better off getting an android handheld for $300. Or get a $50 handheld controller and stream to your phone.
>>108920657Valve should just forget the 2x/3x generational uplift and build a deck using more conventional components even if it's a smaller uplift.
>>108920304>Buzzword buzzword buzzwordAny actual reason or just steam drone babble?
>>108920693The market for conventional components is dead and will stay that way until manufacturing ramps up. That won't happen until a new name starts making silicon because everyone is enjoying the infinite money printer that is high demand low supply.Valve needs to build a snapdragon based steam deck. They're already committing to making linux+arm+steam work with the frame. Just make an Ayn odin 3 with native linux and they'll own the handheld market, even against Nintendo with good emulation support already working for linux.
>>108920743NTA but he's right. ASUS is terrible and makes shitty products now.
>>108919678been waiting for this stupid shit to come back in stock for months and then its £230 more, i can afford it but i don't like getting raped by fat men
>>108919678You voted for this.
>>108920588Your words. Not mine.
>>108919678>$1000>1280x800AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>tfw boughted the lcd 'eck when it was on sale for black fridaywaited too long on the pc upgrade though, it's over
>>108920748Making an ARM based 'steam deck lite' sounds a pretty good move on paper, but what do I know
>>108919678>200 mark up for gorilla glasswtf
>>108920748The bubble.. right.. the bubble.Sigh, the AI chads are right, it is the next industrial revolution and we're never going back.
>>108920755So can you explain what makes the Ally X a terrible product or just steam drone babble?
That's insane for these specs. Its way more attractive to buy a competing AMD handheld and install bazzite or even SteamOS on it. They are now cheaper and more powerful than a steam deck.
>>108920201Yeah, even with a chunk of the proceeds going to the Gabe Newell yacht fund, they have to be swimming in so much cash I'm surprised they don't just eat the RAM and storage costs to keep the Deck pricing stable prior to the Steam Machine and Frame rollout. Especially considering the low volume versus their steam sales. It's actually a little depressing because I think this means Valve, at least, doesn't see the prices ever unfucking. They must assume that $1k for an right year old handheld is the new 'reasonable'.
>>108920953*Eight year old
>>1089208192 years ago I WENTYES TO AIYES TO 6000% PRICINGYES TO SMUG POSTS ON 4CHANYES TO IT ALL2 years ago I WENTYES TO AIYES TO 6000% PRICINGYES TO SMUG POSTS ON 4CHANYES TO IT ALL2 years ago I WENTYES TO AIYES TO 6000% PRICINGYES TO SMUG POSTS ON 4CHANYES TO IT ALL
It was already a bad value when it came out.$549 for the LCD is an outrageous scam for that shit screen and then valve released the OLED not even a year later at the same price lmao. They did planned obsolescence.
>>108919678This is in preparation for the Steam Machine, which will come around 1 to 1.2k USD
>>108919678Wow, it lost all appeal
>>108920306I don't know anything about portable consoles. Is this one good enough to run ps2 games?
>>108919678this shit can't even run elden ring at native res 30fps, why does it still have a market? indie lgbt slop slurpers on reddit or something?
>>108921154manchildren with disposable income
Are retard faggot youtubers still gonna call this the best deal in tech
>>108920306yea if you already have a gaming PC it makes no sense to get a steam deck>>108921146you stream the game from your PC to the handheld>inb4 what about latencyliterally unnoticeable especially since you're using joysticks which is dogshit precision
>>108921164the steamdeck sub has started to look like a leftists cult cave these past few years after all ...maybe quitting early was a good decision (i also hate carrying around outdated plastic)
>>108919678>GPD>Do nothing>Win (no pun intended)
Should I just get a new phone and laptop before prices rise even further?
>>108921267i would hoard all the fastest and meanest tech available if it was me but what do i knowfastest PC, fastest phone, fastest tablet, etc, at this rate they'll appreciate like houses
>>108921146Yeah it'll run ps2 no problem. By specs it's around as powerful as a ps4
>>108921146yeh, even the retroid 4 pro on sale for 150 can run ps2 well.
>>108921267we'll probably see another 50-100% price rise in almost all electronics over the next year. Who knows if we'll eventually have more capacity for chips, or if AI demand with plateau or the hypothetical bubble pops, but it's probably going to be at least 5-10 years before we get mid 2010s levels of affordable hardware. That said, give you plenty of time to get a real fucking job and these price rises will be insignificant so you can afford whatever at whichever price.
>>108921146yeah, retroid pocket has been able to do ps2 and gamecube for a while now, at least since the rp4.i had the one that looked like a gameboy color, and even that could do ps2 games and it was their cheapest model at the time. no sticks so had to use a bluetooth controller.
>>108919769it was sold out beforehandI suspect the price rises are just a way to condition (you) to accept the $1k goyimbox price. There's barely any inventory left for the steam deck so they can just raise it to whatever and be fine knowing nobody will buy them.
This isn't valve. this is the whole industry.There is no AI bubble. that is just an excuse. The goal is to price you out of owning your own devices so they can sell you cloud computing as a solution. Agenda 2030.
>>108921421Cloud computing isn't any cheaper.
>>108921372It's not just the AI "bubble" (which is just an excuse. It's also Hormuz
>>108921424They won't give you an option. it's either $400/month for cloud computing, $5000 for an entry level PC, or get used to living like Ted Kaczynski.
>>108921399>$1k goyimboxProbably more like $1.399
>>108920953lmao, you fucking retard>it's the new normal that gaben fucks me>why don't they cut on their profit for us :(
>>108921462Fuck me? I'm not buying that shit lol
>>108921444What are you talking about? The option is right there, buy the computer instead of being a fucking retard.
>>108921505not in 5 years it won't be. all computer electronics will be more unaffordable as time goes on. $5000 entry level computers soon
>>108919678>startup movie and keyboard theme my fuckin sides
>>108921532Are you making the same amount of money you were 5 years ago?
>>108921421Valve (publicly) have no cloud ambitions, but who knows maybe they are secretly building datacenters and packing them withe steam machine level boards to launch a cloud service some time soon.
>>108920201Nintoddlers like me do not think of you as an alternative option.
>>108919678steambots will still buy this
I've never seen a point to buying one and I dislike its form factor. I just use Moonlight instead.
>>108922357the advantage of moonlight is also it doesn't get warm and loud in your handsi suppose there are some 2d games where the latency benefit and low power draw make the steamdick a better optionbut idk I don't use either
>>108919678just imagine how much a steamvr headset is gonna costvalve should be a premium brand like gucci and michael kors.
>>108922386If valve price it over $700 they are actually retarded, its using the same chipset as $500 android gaming handhelds.
>>108919678Come home poor man.
>>108921319If you're going ARM route, might as well get a AYN Thor. Can even play lighter PC indie games without a sweat.
It's back in stock in the UK, at the increased prices too.
>>108923190Vita is so fucking outdated
>>108923208>VitaYou realize that's a GPD Win 4? Better specs compared to the Dec while smaller.
>>108922357>>108922370meh, moonlight is nice i guess, except any time you are not at home or somewhere with decent internet. I use my steamdeck basically for flights and thats pretty much it. It's huge and sucks shit but it takes the edge off a 11h flight when I can just load up valheim or palworld or something and lock in. I'd love to replace it with something smaller and lighter but the price becomes absolutely shit for something that sits around only used like 12 days out of the year
There is literally no reason to get a Deck when there are cheaper (not for long) and better options available now, other than brand loyalty.
>"ai is so efficient it revolutionizes productivity and the industry, everyone now works 1000 as fast and efficient">makes literally everything more expensive for everyoneReally activates your almonds, doesn't it
>>108923194>Can even play lighter PC indie games without a sweat.it's ARM though or am I missing something?
>>108923378Shit like GameHub Lite (community version without spyware) works great though. Easier games like older and lighter ones are no problem, i.e. Hollow Knight.
>>108923379Does it work on normal Android?
>>108923381Yeah.
>>108923381On decent hardware games like Borderlands 2 run much better than something like the Vita.
>>108919769It's always "sold out". steam creates artificial scarcity by making a very limited number of devices so they can do shit like this and jack the price up to anything they want since very few people are buying steamdecks in the first place. it's estimated (and based on steam's numbers they've given to the press - which are lies), steam have made less than 10 million systems since it was launched 4 years ago. really miserable sales numbers.>>108919863>but Steam Decks and presumably all their other hardware is very low volumedeliberately so>>108923388>recommends the dangerously out of date vitano thanks
>>108923405>>recommends the dangerously out of date vita>no thanksReading comprehension?
>>108923413>On decent hardware games like Borderlands 2 run much better than something like the VitaAre you illiterate or just a coping fucking spastic that still thinks sony's psp and vita is better than any android device?
>>108923418Are you unable to read I'm literally saying that Borderlands 2 runs much better even emulating on ARM Android than it does on Vita, which was a notoriously bad port but portable for it's day.
>>108923418ESL?
U not the target market anymo whyboi
>>108923481kek only thing the deck is good for
>>108923481>not even OLEDDon't like deep blacks?
>>108923497It has a nice PPI though
>>108923552kek
>>108920011as if buying a lambo is any better for your wealth
>>108923208>Vita is so fucking outdatedSpoken like a true downie
>>108921267samsung ceo said ram prices are going to drop by 400% by the end of the year
>>108919690Lemme check with grok real quick.
>>108920743You are 16 years old. Shut up redditor consumer bug
>>108923149It's using the same lens and display as 5-6 year old quests 3The fat cockroach is real silent about it so I got a feeling they will soon reveal an overpriced pos and celebrate themselves for being the gatekeepers of the gaming world while reddit eunuchs clap for them and say stupid shit like 'without valve I couldn't own all these gaymes'
>>108920306>>108921237>>108923194Jeet or contrarian? Or tender with a mega hateboner for Valve bc the Deck giga clowned on the Shittendo Shitch?
>muh oled>muh 1000x800>muh 1k steam library handheld dildonatorWho cares seriously that's cuckoldry. Display so small I can't even see it. It's for lil boys so they can stay lil boys forever.Pretty sad. Then the 'tech' forums discussing a 720p display the size of my bigger stamps.What the hell is going on.
WHEN THE FUCK IS VALVE RELEASING THE STEAM MACHINE FOR FUCK'S SAKEI WANT TO KNOW THE PRICE ALREADY
>>108924567GPD Win is a UMPC series though that predates the Deck.
>>108924575late this year$700
>>108925243No way in hell that the steam machine is cheaper than the deck...
>>108925243They should just release a barebones version at this point. I can source some SODIMMs and a SSD better than valve apparently.
>>108925497no screen no battery no controller
I was fence sitting on the steam machine just incase it was a good deal and was low power (thus low heat, a desirable trait in my yuro hotbox), but right now I have plenty of spare parts for an ITX build to go under my TV
Jesus, who pays so much for oled screen? Do you amerifats wipe your ass with dollars?
>>108924047Will companies lower the price of smartphones though?
>>108919678The Steam Machine is fucked completely, an equivalent Mac mini costs 1599 USD, and I'm not bringing it up because Macs are good for gaming or something, but because you know shit is really bad when the Apple option costs the same
>>108920573>Well, you kind of voted for it.Sam Altman is not Trump.Kill yourself schizo.
I lucked out and got a Legion Go S for 600$ before the price increases
>>108919678waitfags keep losing
>INFLATION
>>108919678Gabe makes sure that people will get used to high prices. When they introduce Gabecube, it will cost at least $1,199 or something but because the other options are almost as expensive it doesn't look that offensive.I'm sure he is also high off his own farts too. Fuck Valve anyway, such a trash company.
handheld chris chan impersonators and controller cuckolds will pay premium so they can sell the machine at 0 and the steam frame at loss.thank you handheld and controller turbofags. please overpay for more childish stuff.
>>108920887or the next tulip mania. at this point I kinda think they are mass surveilance centers and they are building the infrastructure for mass slavery. billionares went crazy.
>>108920887industrial revolution made goods cheaper
Valve hardware tends to be bad but at least the steam deck had the low price going for it for a while.The upcoming steam machine (assuming it doesn't get canceled) is going to be expensive while still having e-waste tier hardware.
>>108925527Dgpu, more ram, more storage. Also have to recoup all the R&D costs of getting the hdmi certification and CEC working on linux.There's no way the base model is less than $1000. The ram, storage, and gpu alone are $800. Battery and controller savings are pennies compared to the storage price hikes.I'm thinking base $1200, higher tier is $1600. SFF pcs were always more expensive than the sum of their parts, the steam machine will be no different.
> he didn't boughtered long ago
>>108927091It ain't to getting cancelled but $1200 is realistic
>>108927565It's literally using the kind of parts that are in a $500 laptop
>>108923305Sounds like the Deck is a great asset for someone who's often travelling or some goy with long commutes. I occasionally spend an hour in bed on a handheld so Moonlight makes more financial sense to me.
>>108927659So the steam deck is using parts that are in a $300 laptop but costs $750? You think $2 in controller parts, a $50 battery and a $70 oled screen adds up to $450?If a $750 Zen2 handheld and a $100 controller with membrane buttons doesn't tell you Valve is upcharging the shit out of their hardware idk what will.
>>108920979You're a rapist.
>>108919678What is the point of this, i already got a pc?
Was definitely planning to buy a frame but now I am not so sure. Really wishing is was not standalone right now.
>>108927608It might end up costing more than project helix. You need some great mental gymnastics to justify paying 1200$ for such bad hardware but plenty of steam/valve fanboys will pull it off i assume. Valve products tend to be shit (yes that includes steam) but they have an army of fanboys propping them up in addition to lack of strong competition on the store front but objectively speaking steam is a shitty service. I don't want a launcher to begin with.
>>108928290Makes sense from a financial perspective since a lot of their fanboys don't understand tech spech and accept subpar gaming experience.
>>108924567I love Valve but GPD is peak. Valve seems to follow the market when it comes to hardware, they make a high quality product but there's nothing special about it.
>>108928290getting the x86 laptop chips with actually good deck-equivalent AMD/Intel iGPUs costs a fair bit and is usually more expensive in a laptop then a deck. Of course ARM based chinkshit Android phone SoCs are considerably cheaper but nowhere near as open.
>>108930833The previous comment claimed the steam machine is using parts in a $500 laptop. The steam machine is 6x more powerful than the steam deck according to Valve. How cheap of a laptop would the steam deck be equivalent to? >deck-equivalent AMD/Intel iGPUs costs a fair bit and is usually more expensive in a laptop then a deckYou were right before they jacked the price by 50%. My asus laptop has an igpu 2x the power of the steam deck and cost me $700 for a refurb. Nowadays they're more like $900 on ebay which is still under the 1tb steam deck price and has 8gb more ram. >ARM based chinkshit Android phone SoCs are considerably cheaper but nowhere near as openAlso true but the odin 3 with the new snapdragon chip is butting heads against the steam deck with gamenative or gamehub. Most of the games I see people enjoy on the deck are probably also enjoyable on an android device, i.e small indie games. The odin 3 is under $350 for the base model and $500 for a steam deck equivalent model which honestly feels like how the steam deck should be priced. $350 base and $500 pro.I was heavily considering getting a steam deck to use as a portable tv console with the new kde big picture mode in v6.7 but this price increase is bullshit. Android 16 desktop mode is shit so the odin isn't really an option for me either.
>>108921399>want to buy thing>LOOK OTHER THING>fuck off retard I only care about first thingNobody fucking cares. Take your meds.
>gaben will save gaymingWas it a lie
>>108923405>steam creates artificial scarcity by making a very limited number of devices so they can do shit like this and jack the price up to anything they want since very few people are buying steamdecks in the first placeAnyone can create a Steam Deck compatible device, it's not proprietary technology.
>>108920306is it 4k?
>>108919678Some e-celebs are saying Valve is being greedy but NAND prices doubled and LPDDR5 tripled. Of course the price was going to increase.If you look at 9070XT the price didn't increase but that's only coincidence that GDDR6 price didn't increase much.
>>108920211you're literally thinking backwards on this. people buying steam decks already have a library which is why they need to jack up prices more than nintendo, since they can't rely on game sales to make up for the difference. nintendofags on the other hand will gladly pay up $80+ per game
>>108932893It's not just RAM, that's becoming a misconception. SSD prices have exploded too. Everything has gone up. Literally the most base materials needed to manufacture the components and PCBs themselves have skyrocketed.
>>108920868The memory is the factor here
id rather just buy a laptop or minipc
>>108932928NAND is an SSD component. I just didn't want to write SSD, M2, etc. but yes you're right.
>>108932893>>108932928It's multifaceted really, Valve simply don't sell enough units to secure the big discounts and long term orders. Lenovo have probably sold more of their handheld powered by steamOS than actual steam decks.
>>108935392Throw in other companies are not ordering just for say a handheld PC, they are ordering for millions of units of laptops, desktops and other devices.I don't think people truly grasp how much of a microscopic player Valve is with no negotiating power.
I bought a new one for 320 euro on black friday and honestly it was one of the best purchases I made for the last few years. Zelda works great on it, P5R too. 700 euro is way too much for it though, I hope gaben changes his mind or finds a better ram supplier because I would buy a hypothetical deck 2
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/taiwanese-memory-module-makers-raise-880-million-to-stockpile-chipsWew. Valve stood no chance.
