>>108926187
>Mint nowhere to be found
>Debian ranked that low
lol

>>108926187
AerynOS is the best distro.

>>108926187
Thoughts on LXDE?

>>108926187
How can redhat and FEDora be ranked that way if it's the same thing? FEDora is basically a beta testers build of redhat. I can understand Ubuntu being lower than Debian, perhaps something to do with how they monetize, but redhat probably does not do any of that, since it is supposed to be a paid OS, right?

https://youtu.be/7M00ZDCjAA8

Link to the vid if you're curious about the arguments. I think they were pretty solid.

Anything with systemd is SLOP tier, sorry.

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>>108926187
Usecase for giving a fuck about this?

>>108926187
great take honestly, NixOS is overkill for the desktop though. trying to tardwrangle the linux ecosystem into a fully declarative system gave me to much friction, so switched back to Arch (with home-manager). NixOS on my home server is fantastic

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>>108926187
>Literally who youtuber's opinion
>Debian is meh

>>108926396
Literally every Linux distro "community" ever has a large trans userbase now, especially on reddit or discord. This is not saying anything about the distro itself. If the devs of the distro are trannies that's another thing.

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>>108926187
Really makes me wonder why Fedora is always praised like it is the best thing that ever happened to the Linux world and Ubuntu is hated like it is the spawn of satan. Fedora is just a beta test branch for RHEL so in other words you get the privilege of testing a companies product without getting anything in return. You even have to pay for RHEL.

And RedHat embodies everything that Linux users hate. A giant company with government ties that has control over every facet of Linux like Gnome, systemd, Wayland, Flatpak, Pipewire and so on. All these changes are forced on people by RedHat by pushing them out in Fedora so that all the retards can beta test their shit. They even get praised all the time for this like "Fedora is so cutting-edge and modern! It's the future of Linux!"

I wonder if these NPCs programing got all messed up and everytime RedHat does something shitty they project that onto Canonical who never even did 1% of the shady shit that RedHat and by extension Fedora are doing.

>>108926187
Why are there so many Linux distributions?

>>108926187
Whats the use for nixOS? I see nothing to be had, redhat does it better.

>chimera, slapped together experimental distro ranked higher than debian
sloppy video by sloppy tony

>>108926414
Yep, basically only in terminally online spaces. And Linux attracts all kind of people. Communists, because fuck the system, libertarians because freedom, right wingers, privacy dudes, programmers, grannies... there is everyone, just the average goy is missing, but they just consoom anyway.

>>108926234
>>108926410
Distros that aren't rolling release are fucking useless. A good Linux distro

-Is rolling release
-Supports KDE
-Has full Wayland support

Everything else is outdated slop

>>108926606
In the real world people just use Debian and Alpine. Linux desktop is a meme, so there's a lot of arch bullshit over there, but still people mostly use Debian based distros. They are more modern than Centos, less broken than FEDora and actually free in more than one way, unlike redhat.

>>108926333
le corporate is le bad. how is this news to you?

>>108926187
>bsd
nothing fucking works no drivers
>guix
annoying ass config language
>nixos
same but a lot less annoying and has a ton of advantages and software, actually good and usable.
i still think it should be using something more simple for most of it's configuration like yaml/toml like 95% of my nix configuration is just lists of settings,packages,files having to learn a whole ass new language for this is just retarded. nixos is peak but if it kept its core functionality while being easier to configure without its own language (ironically what guix does) it would be goat
>fedora
the 'it just werks' distro , basically the standard now. what ubuntu/mint maybe was like 10y ago....
>debian/alpine
mostly for servers/containers i think. my little home server is running armbian and atleast 1/3 of the containers are alpine based.

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>>108926187
oh bingo, though haven't booted up that redhat box in years since they changed and rocky and alma first popped up

>supreme god of Linux
what happened to Stallman?

>>108926187
>supreme god of linux
>peak : troon distros managed by troon
Im sorry but i generally don't care about opinions of troons.

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>>108927000
>supreme god of Linux
>Richard Stallman
>a guy that has done nothing for Linux except write a convoluted license and make a bloated copy of the unix command line tools
You can see how desperate Stallman was when he tried to frame his shitty GNU core utils to be on the same level of importance as the Linux kernel by calling it GNU/Linux. Imagine the fucking hubris to even call it GNU/Linux and not Linux/GNU.

Same pattern with FOSS. After every normal person abandoned his retarded "free software" ideology and started calling it "open source software" because they were fed up with him, he tried to claw back relevance by hijacking it with FOSS (free AND open source software). Again listing his own garbage first. But even that wasn't enough so now he insists on FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software). Literal troon behaviour with their LGBTQIA+ but applied to software.

tl;dr fuck Richard Stallman and his retarded ideology

>>108926187
>Fedora is peak
>Red Hat is slop
This is actually an insane LARP.

>>108927239
literally this

>fartix that high
>debian and lfs in meh

>>108927318
>good distros are high
>outdated trash headed by a jeeta is lower
Whoa

>NOOOOOOOO WHERE IS MY FAVOURITE DISTRO WHY IS THIS RANDOM INDIVUDALS HAVING DIFFERENT THOUGHTS THAN I DO AND WHY IS HE NOT RECOGNIZING THE IMOPRTANCE OF THIS THING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME??????????? H-HE'S WRONG BECAUSE UM.... HE'S JUST WRONG FOR HAVING WRONG OPINIONS OK GET IT
look retards I know I'm talking to bots/AI here and no sane employed well-adjusted individual will ever read this shitpost but just remember that
A) nobody gives a shit
B) you are free to use whatever the fuck you want and you don't have to explain your choices to anyone, nobody cares, you don't do anything remotely productive with your computer regardless of the OS

>>108926187
>official
where is your office?

Nix always sounded cool but every time I look into it I see that config language and I just can't be fucked because I know I'd have to spend time learning it.

>>108927150
>pic
kek my sides. art teachers trying to censor expression. holy fucking kek

>>108926187
>FreeBSD above OpenBSD
how I can tell he's never attempted to run either of these as a desktop

>>108926796
>haven't booted up that redhat box in years
Chances are, it's still in support ;^)

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>>108926414
that is not how statistics work, anon just admit there are a lot of trannies on nix?

>>108926690
That's not what I'm saying, although it is correct. I just cannot comprehend how OP could put those two in the opposite corners of the chart. They're basically the same, afaik.

>immutable distros
Dumbest thing ever for personal use.

>>108928162
Some people seem to choose a distro by looking at whatever sounds the coolest instead of asking themselves what problems it will solve for them (spoiler: most of these only create problems)

>>108927747
>HE'S JUST WRONG FOR HAVING WRONG OPINIONS
That is correct.

>>108928240
The average person using an immutable distro installed it to get away from Windows and boot into their Steam games, since gaming is the only thing they'd use a PC for in the first place these days. What problems will they have from the distro being immutable?

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>>108928035
Some of these are hilarious. There are some more here but the Stallman one is just pure art: https://www.deviantart.com/rware/gallery/37822159/tech-industry-leader-portraits

lizardbros... we're leaving

>>108928296
Not being able to easily install native packages. You can install a lot of stuff through flatpak but some is only available through native packages. Having it be immutable doesn't really add anything to the experience and might cause trouble in the future.

But it might be fine if you use it as a console OS. I just find it weird that people recommend distros like Bazzite for regular desktop use when it was designed for home consoles.

People don't really ask themselves why they need it to be immutable. Same way some people want the newest packages and so choose Arch but they don't even know themselves why they want the latest packages or what it would do for them.

>>108926187
Who is Tony?

>>108928405
>I just find it weird that people recommend distros like Bazzite for regular desktop use
Sure, but you're not the average zoomer. Lots of them, if they're going to use a desktop PC at all, just start them up to launch straight into Steam, so they can play the games their favourite streamers have been playing, then they shut it down when they're done. They don't really do anything else with them. For anything else, they go on their phones.

>>108926414
They're just insanely loud and annoying and self obsessed, as usual. Trannies infest any nerdy male communities online because they themselves are nerdy males. They have no self awareness or they'd realize that nothing they do is female or womanlike at all. Go find a real woman who uses Nixos lmfao.

>>108928467
Some loonix mafia shit, you will sleep better if you don't know.

>>108928405
>they don't even know themselves why they want the latest packages or what it would do for them
It will break shit when they expect it the least.

>>108928140
>2019
theres probably way more trannies in the us than the study shown in present day

>>108928524
>They have no self awareness or they'd realize that nothing they do is female or womanlike at all.
Some of them do actually have slight self awareness about it and they like it because transgenderism is in most cases rooted in an autogynephilia fetish. The ones who are aware but don't like it try their best to distance themselves from stereotypical autistic male interests like Linux and convert to being fake Macfags and the like in order to mimic female tastes and behaviors better. The latter tranny variant I believe is more prone to suicide because at some point they will realize nothing they try will work. The former tranny variant will start grooming children instead.

>>108926187
fedora really is peak

>>108928405
Right now, immutable is for the peace of mind that the OS is idiot proof, and not needing to set up and test a file backup system. A failsafe boot image is always there, and the update process is more reliable. This is just the start of though; there is momentum for "Container Native" becoming the new mainstream default for the Linux desktop experience a few years from now.

Once the atomic bootc technology developed in Fedora matures, the way to customize an atomic OS would be in a declarative way similar to NixOS. You would add the apps/packages/tweaks you want to a dockerfile build script, and sideload your new custom bootable image; your files in /home and /var will remain unaffected. If you want packages for one-off use, there will be the 'bootc usroverlay' command to temporarily dnf install packages that will get deleted after a reboot.

With bootc, Containerfile is the recipe/blueprint/config file to modify. Bazzite's Containerfile is available for viewing on Github, though you can find examples of far more minimalist Containerfiles. A big advantage over NixOS is that you don't need to learn a niche bespoke programming language; you use standard terminal commands and dockerfile syntax commonly used in cloud computing.

https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/main/Containerfile

>>108930371
>nixlang autism vs dockerfile retardedness
there desperately needs to be a middle ground option

>>108926187
Has it been 24 hours already???
>Another thread where /g/ proves they never shut the fuck up about trannies and faggots
You are all a breed below trannies for this behavior to me. I want this known. Keep thinking about troons, little tech tards (LTT - that channel you all love!)

>>108926187
He ignored mental illness of Fedora and other woke distros but had to point out muh "protest distro". Cant take this guy seriously.

>>108926655

wayland has nothing to do with the distro lmao

>>108926269
Abandonware, to no one's surprise

>>108926187
>unabashed Nix shill
>almost everything near the top is updooter garbage
>uses forced zoomer terminology like "goat" and "peak" to make himself seem based and relatable
>pronounces apt "ayy-pee-tee"
>sucks off Fedora even though it's just as corporate as Ubuntu
>RHEL is in the bottom tier anyway because ???
>writes off Debian because his trendy meme packages like neovim are too old
uuughhhh why are Linux users and influencers so gaaaaayyy oooooggghhhh I can't take it

>>108926773
Retard-tier blogpost

>>108926187
Gentoo and Guix should be S tier and anything else who gives a fuck

>>108931861
nix isnt 'updooter garbage'

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>>108926187
Holy GNU/Based

>>108931912
https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Channel_branches
https://lowtek.ca/roo/2025/nixos-25-11-how-to-upgrade/
>Stable channels (e.g. nixos-26.05) only provide conservative updates for fixing bugs and security vulnerabilities, but do not receive major updates after the initial release. New stable channels are released every six months
>NixOS has a very predictable upgrade cadence, twice a year in May and November. The downside is they very quickly deprecate the old version, 25.05 will stop getting regular updates at the end of December this year. Upgrading is so safe, and easy, there really isn’t any excuse to be back level.
admittedly I haven't tried Nix, but this just sounds like an even more aggressive version of Fedora's release model - you get a new release every 6 months, and if you don't upgrade to the next one the millisecond after it comes out, you're fucked. of course it's not as hardline as something like Arch, but at that point you might as well just use a rolling distro anyway

>>108926187
Arch is slop tier without the AUR btw

>>108931993
its just a stable branch + rolling branch setup no different from suse. ive run mine on my laptop as rolling but i think they released a new stable branch just a few days ago i might switch to it for a bit unless there's gonna be something in the rolling branch i want.

fedora isnt an updooter distro either i run fedora on my main desktop and many packages in fedora 44 are already unusable because theyre too old (llama-cpp for example, have to install it manually or via brew) and fedora 45 is 5 months away. nix gives you both options of rolling/point release and you can pretty seamlessly switch between them i think the only other distro ive tried that comes close to this is suse

>>108926640
The average goy would probably be more open to Linux if every tranny in the rest of the community didn't threaten to rape their entire family over using Ubuntu instead of some distro called Dyketroonix which you have to build yourself, configure using only semicolons and ampersands, and has a combined total of 4 packages across all repos.

>>108926373
People who actually use their PC don't care

>>108926187
just use ubuntu you trannies

>>108932102
>Just use the distro made for regular people
This is the correct response to all tranniggers in this thread, unless you have a laptop with a horrible battery, in that case use void

>>108932047
>the only other distro ive tried that comes close to this is suse
there's a supported path for upgrading from Leap to Tumbleweed, but you can't downgrade afterwards, which IIRC is exactly how Debian handles it. also Leap's been in limbo for years and SUSE keeps throwing out core features like YaST, it's so irrelevant at this point that I can't remember the last time I saw someone using a SUSE distro that wasn't Tumbleweed. Debian sucks but it's literally the only non-corporate LTS distro left that isn't a complete joke

>>108931993
new branch will be in beta for like a month before official release and probably another month before the old branch gets deprecated.

you'll possibly have to check the release notes and change a few config options between releases (this one rearranged how systemd-resolve config works) to clear the error messages but that's pretty ez.

>>108932140
idk i installed leap and upgraded it to tumbleweed one time when testing out suse it was very smooth and i was under the impressing that all paths were supported like switching between leap,tumbleweed,slowroll...

in nixos you the switch between rolling\unstable and a point release is the same as any update except if you added anything in your nixconfig that uses newer unstable features then you just comment that stuff out.

also you can mix with flakes you can run everything from the stable/pinned branch except one program where you want the latest version always. you can have multiple versions of any program installed in parralel, for example if you run a project where you want specific versions of stuff you can set up a nix-devshell with pinned versions of all the stuff you want while keeping your core system rolling/stable. you can use nix-direnv where you put a shell.nix file in a directory and every time you enter that directory you get a special shell with pinned versions of programs you specified (basically like python virtual environments but for everything)

nix basically gives you the flexability of mixing and matching any combination of the versions/settings/configurations of it's packages in any way you want. this of course adds complexity so you usually dont want to do it but if your distro updated some package and you want an old pinned version for some project nix is much more convenient and consistent than the alternative.

personally i rarely use those feature i just like the idea that i have a handful of .nix files i wrote that determine all the configuration of my system and my system can never get polluted with old files/folders/bullshit from stuff i uninstalled especially with newer fast moving software that if my home-dir stuff is backed up i can just wipe my system and quickly rebuild it at any point where's my traditional distros tend to get polluted with garbage from old projects

>>108932102
But Ubuntu is made for normal people. How can I say I'm special if I start acting normal!

Ubuntu is the perfect distro for everyone. Companies, normal people, servers,... everyone just uses Ubuntu because it is the sane choice. I'm certain the reason Ubuntu is hated is because it reminds all these nerds of a successful chad with a 10/10 wife and a stable income. So it is natural that chuds constantly seethe at it.

>>108931065
>Abandonware
Source?

>>108932253
>nix basically gives you the flexability of mixing and matching any combination of the versions/settings/configurations of it's packages in any way you want
see I like how this sounds on paper, since I hate the arbitrary LTS vs. rolling release divide every distro seems to have, but Nix's package manager filtered me the last time I had to deal with it and the community is so hopelessly pozzed that I've never even given the distro itself a chance
granted I think I just hate the concept of package management in general. with Windows pre-10, you could use the same OS for a decade with modern software and (mostly) not worry about security updates changing anything, but apparently this model is just fundamentally incompatible with Linux because fuck me, I guess

>>108926187
Who?

>>108932718
Apparently it's important what literal-who sloptubers think about distros.
>>108926187
Yes, it's time for you to try it out. Whatever distracts you from making any more threads on /g/.

>>108932703
fragmentation and version/dependency hell is kinda inevitable in linux based systems complaining about it is kinda of like 'why is there so many distros' like if there was only one distro it would be shit. linux has diversity but thats a double edged sword.

nix solves the main problems of linux package/version fuckery. because of the hash-based nix store you can have multiple versions of everything. this is better than the winblows
>'download shady installer files'
model and the
>'add third party repos whose packages sometimes have dependency hell clusterfucks with the packages from the official repos'

but you're right its added complexity you have to learn. but the stock nixos configuration you get after installing is a fairly good working point-release configuration in a single file, to install packages you just add them to

environment.systemPackages = with pkgs; [
    docker
    docker-compose
    git
    openssl
    # sbctl # for secureboot
  ];

(copied from one of my configs) and run nixos rebuild-switch. basically in it's simplest form its no different than a regular point-release distro except you
add/delete packages from a text file instead cli arguments and mostly shit just werks. it becomes complex if you want to run it as a rolling release with flakes,
home-manager and all that stuff which you can do gradually and as needed.

its not that hard to learn when you can just use a chatbot to point you where you do the thing you want to do and it very quickly starts feeling a lot more organized than traditional distros.

>>108932929
I'm sure it's good, but it seems so opaque.

>>108928155
you have to buy a license to use fedora? that's news to me

stop samefagging and buy a fucking ad for your shitty channel

>>108932996
I have literally made three posts in this thread. You just hate fun.
t. OP

>>108926187
>Puts void in "mid" because he's too stupid to remember "xbps"
LMAO

>>108933328
This. Mr. "Linux God" who pretends to have hundreds of commands memorized can't remember a simple 4 letter sting.

>>108926187
I'm just going to keep using Debian

>>108933328
>>108933863
>can remember all the bullshit you need to remember and type to use nix and its language
>can't remember "xbps"

>>108927927
That's me with setting up a functioning Void linux system

>>108926333
>FEDora is basically a beta testers build of redhat.
It's true that Fedora is part of the Red Hat stream but people just toss the fact out there without clarifying what it actually means for users.
It's a user focused distro with a lot of specific changes made by the community with a much larger repo full of things that never go downstream or only ever reach downstream through the EPEL. RHEL might enjoy the fact that there's a large base of users they can pull packages from but it's not like my Fedora packages are janky beta tier shit compared to what you might find on Arch or anywhere else. By the time a new version of something enters Fedora and leaves Rawhide it has already been tested as well if not more than a package on any other distro. To us regular users RHEL existing does not meaningfully impact out experience in any way. The only bullshit we really have to deal with is Red Hat being autistic about loisences and non-free packaging.

>>108926234
>Mint nowhere to be found
So, ubuntu? You can see it right there
>but LMDE
oh you can see debian in the pic too

>>108926187
ive had a similar opinion for years, anons wanted me dead, called me larper, contrarian faggot, and many more ugly things
so, how comes this is now accepted and can persist in the catalog for +24h without people telling you to end your life? how is it possible that freebsd, nix and guix are not hated anymore but rather popular? wtf guys

>>108926655
bait used to be believable

>>108928319
dunno why but I remembered the ballmer one had him playing with his nipples

>>108928467
larper that almost exclusively makes dotfile videos
imagine if luke smith had even less to add to the conversation

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>>108931957