https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/leaks-reveal-us-authorities-concerned-about-the-rise-of-anti-tech-extremists-as-ai-data-center-issues-become-increasingly-contentious-critics-say-this-could-lead-to-surveillance-criminalization-of-peaceful-opposition
>>108926735>anti-tech extremist terroristbased
I'm convinced the sudden influx of absolutely dogshit posts like OP's is just anti-AI fags attemping to falseflag
Yes, so?
We, uhhh, can't vote them out, can we?
Just imagine. Once the bubble pops, they could commit insurance fraud to recoup their losses and blame it on luddites.
>this-could-lead-to-surveillance
I report every anti-AI post to the three letter agencies
>>108926748>anti-tech extremist terroristThey're the only kind of peopel I'd wanna be friends with.
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>>108927001friends = shit
>>108926735>people that hate progress are anti-techWow, breaking news! Same fucking lunatics that pretend they are elite haxors by writing toy programs in C and refusing to do anything with their life while pretending to be the more elite cunts online. Who gives a fuck.They are all mentally illThey will always be left behindThey will always cry like little bitches
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>>108926735that's so cool i always wanted to be an extremist
>>108926911hitler is nazism, mussolini is fascism, uneducated retard.--ama against chinese infestasion centers https://www.foxnews.com/us/chinese-linked-biolab-discovered-las-vegas-home-sparks-federal-investigation-swat-responseand ama pro nuke-reactor, where are nuclear reactors, retards? stop burning gas, AI will wait, no need to hurry with your retarded data centers
>>108926735The anti-AI shit is funded by ChinaIts the new anti-nuclear movement
>>108927178I'm in no illusion about that. That's why we should pressure china to limit their AI capabilities and go to war if necessary.
>>108927178so what is the threat from that? explain. less data centers? heres what china does >>108927167 china doesnt give a quack about datacenters in US. these fake stories will variate more, because those retards already bet and started their retarded gas oven projects
>>108926735LLMs ≠ AI though
>>108926735>WE HAVE THE RADIO NOW! FINALLY COMMUNISM CAN'T FAIL! THIS IS THE PINNACLE OF TECHNOLOGY! WE CAN'T ADVANCE FURTHER!>WE HAVE TELEVISION NOW! FINALLY COMMUNISM CAN'T FAIL! THIS IS THE PINNACLE OF TECHNOLOGY! WE CAN'T ADVANCE FURTHER!>WE HAVE THE INTERNET NOW! FINALLY COMMUNISM CAN'T FAIL! THIS IS THE PINNACLE OF TECHNOLOGY! WE CAN'T ADVANCE FURTHER!>WE HAVE AI NOW...Why are Communists like this? And by Communists I obviously mean Jews.
>>108927047>hate progressno sir, this is just faggot shit that will lead to a worse dystopia than the ones depicted in movies about artificial intelligence. We need to seek alternative structures if we want a sick-ass dystopia.
>>108927101he never stops winning
>>108927317meds
>>108926735I voted for this. Faggots getting vented by ICE into submission, brown subhuman children being raped and trafficked out of Gaza, now you retards getting thrown into camps to dig your own graves before being executed is exactly what I wanted. Fucking based.
>>108927317An omniscient machine-god has a better chance of solving the calculation problem at least
>>108926735I want this entire global civilization RAZED TO THE GROUND
>>108927297>>108927178>>108926735>so what is the threat from that? explain. China really wants America to explode at the seams from funding the AI industry, and thanks to the invariable greed of the AI industry: It may happen all by itself.They aren't "stoking anti-AI sentiment" like OP's article suggests as much as poking a fire that has already started. If they really did care about preventing anti-AI sentiment, they would pull back on the "YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE POOR GENTILE SCUM" narrative that every billionaire has right now.
>>108927297see, no explanation. these people are bots/shills
>>108927807You just got an explanation.
108927703imagine being this much of a soulless husk freak
>>108927805>China really wants America to explode at the seams from funding the AI industry, and thanks to the invariable greed of the AI industry: It may happen all by itself.where is explanation professor? too many smart phrases. threat is like "china sponsors fentanyl labs and smugglers who brought it into US" (really happened). what are you mumbling professor, i dont get
>>108927853>really happenedthousands people died, more than in Vietnam actually. how many died in anti-datacenters plot?
>>108927042Depends. I had all kinds of em, the non shit variety are very clingy, so I'm here.
>>108927317Because Abrahamic religions are like that. They're totalitarian messianic apocaliptic sects. Poison for a human mind.
>>108927703It's a shame Americans are known for owning lots of weapons and they missed so many times.
>>108928026Thor was a tranny, you fucking larpagan.
>>108927297AI is the next nuclear arms raceIf you paid attention, to the news, you would know countries like Israel, Russia, and especially US have been using AI in warsIt's making drones more accurate, it's make logistics more accurate, and its excellent at producing propaganda
>>108928196blablabla, ye, it has some use, but youre in the tech topic, not in some retarded political fantasy. you didnt justify the threat, contrary i showed you an example of how chinese threat looks like. AI was used in military long before chatbots and "agentic" nonsense, for example in the Javelin flying compukter. but it wasnt called AI and it doesnt need a datacenter. it needs a reduction of price. american drone weaponry is too expensive (though "shahed"-type drone is better projected) and inadeqate (even Trump posted retarded lasers).btw that "arms race" was probably a psyop to get USSR involved into the race, not to win it, obviously. US already won the arms race to 50s, there was enough arms to destroy soviets. So the optimal strategy is to do nothing, nothing retarded in particular. build nuke reactors, remove bureaucracy and propaganda related to radiophoby. thats the real battle.
>>108926735The war against AI needs to be global and it's a necessity. All the oligarchs who want to rule over us are to be extinguished along their totalitarian surveillance tool. This is not a political issue.
Roszak, T. (1994). The Cult of Information: A Neo‑Luddite Treatise on High‑Tech, Artificial Intelligence and the True Art of Thinking (2nd ed.). University of California Press, p. 233.>But no matter how high the promise of that age is pitched, the price we pay for its benefits will never outweigh the costs. The violation of privacy is the loss of freedom. The degradation of electoral politics is the loss of democracy. The creation of the computerized war machine is a direct threat to the survival of our species. It would be some comfort to conclude that these liabilities result from the abuse of computer power. But these are the goals long since selected by those who invented information technology, who have guided it and financed it at every point along the way in its development. The computer is their machine; its mystique is their validation.In case anyone wonders why information tech often does what the (ethnic) oligarchs want.
>>108927178No it isn't lol. I know people IRL who are stopping the data centers through public nonviolent action. I know of a town that fired their entire city council after they approved a data center. Then reversed the permit and sued the city aswell. None of the locals wanted the extra strain on water and power supplies. These things use a stupid amount of power and last time I checked the internet worked fine for decades with way less of "data centers" which were in central locations across the US, but far fewer in number and not drawing this much power.
>>108926735So almost anyone who has seen terminator?
>>108928026>Because Abrahamic religionsUmm sir, this is a /g/ board.>>>/x/ is thataway. I'm not sure why you felt the need to shoehorn that in?
>>108927178https://apnews.com/video/how-the-ap-uncovered-us-big-techs-role-in-chinas-digital-police-state-6d0786850fc9436dbd83f823e776449eChina literally uses our tech
>>108927178it's kinda funny how after us completely fucks its economy with those trillion dollar scam companies china will still have an ok model with fraction of investment. China can't stop winning.
>>108926735Yes and?
Put me in the watchlist.
>>108928061That's a meme. And Abrahamic religions being harmful and backwards is a reality we live in right now.>>108929178>Umm sir, this is a /g/ boardYes, we are discussing tech and belief systems. Luddite is a person that believes something. Just like an AI fanatic. Go bother them for a change.
If you don't even burn down a datacenter with the homies do you even care about them?
>>108929414jfc you guys never stop shoehorning that phrase in do you? Has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion whatsoever. This isn't a discussion of religion just a bad attempt at derailing a conversation about an important topic. BTW the town I know of that was able to completely remove their entire city council and reverse the AI data center was a heavily Christian town. hmm, maybe having a cohesive community is helpful for fighting off tech parasites? Just a thought. Conversation with you is over here. I don't want to get banned for off topic flame wars.
>>108929436You are mistaking me for someone who seeks to attack YOU for what you believe in. But really it's what you believe is the problem, not you as a person. Were you born in Asia, you'd be defending Budha or whatever.> I don't want to get banned for off topic flame warsFaggot.
>>108926735At this point, what ISN'T "extremism"?Soccer moms, old church ladies, and virgin nerds are "terrorists" now.
>>108929575not buying macdonalds or stocks may soon be considered economic terrorism
>anti-tech extremist terroristThey were used to be able to blame either right wing or left wing, but now they are lost for words when trying to describe the threat coming from both sides. They really need it to sound bad ok?
>>108926735No such thing as datacenter issues unless you're brown.
>>108930858i am brown
>>108926735They aren't wrong its just most retards that are against the data centers have no idea what goes on geopolitically unless they are told about it. When dems come in they'll most likely tell these people to shut the fuck up as they always do. However republicans can never do jack shit right so it'll probably fuck everything up.
>>108930878Becuase timmy is using the rope to hang himself.
>>108927178lol>>108929153This is what I am talking about. You really are dumb as fuck. Let me give you a run down on why we need data centers now. A lot of them will be used for chip manufacturing and supporting those plants. This is what I am talking about you have no idea what you are talking about and the people you know firing the city council are moronic fuckholes who are probably baby boomers that own "land". What you are doing is holding back progress and letting china win.>and not drawing this much power.Again to reiterate we are trying to bring chip manufacturing and other shit back to the US Biden with the chips act etc etc. You have fuck all about what is happening geopolitically or you are to fucking retarded to believe that "people" you know IRL might just be Chinese spies are influenced by them.
>>108930878because i dont want to
>>108930895they're not legally required to do anything you've stated. so you should assume the worst case scenario, they will only serve themselves, they will not serve morality, they will obey the whims of today's and tomorrow's politics equally.
>>108930895>mfw I stopped a data center from being built in my county and their 2nd attempt 50 miles in another county by using nextdoor.Build your own power plant first, faggots.
>>108930926This is what I always wonder do you think everyone is like this? The country wouldn't have existed. When we all know those before us were even more shitheads then what we currently have.>>108930934You'll learn to regret it when your country becomes and irrelevant shithole.
first I’m labeled an economic terrorist now this? glowies are faggots
>>108929153The city that voted out its council is still having a data center built. It literally does not matter, the mayor will push it through and if he gets voted out it will still happen. They do not care what peons think.
>>108930951it's a pretty simple difference"those shitheads before us" made cars, planes, railroads, appliances, etc"the shitheads we currently have" make mass surveillance and psyops and torture, etc
>>108931001all of what you mentioned those in the past have done. If anything they did far more torture. desu we need to do more torture.
>>108930895I’d rather china win desu LETS GO CHINAAAAAAAA
>>108931010>>108931012the greater public rightfully sees you as maniacs. "torture is based". no. you will cheer the flames just as you cheer the psyop, because you are animalistic nothing.
>>108931018yes, i really want bugmen chinks running the world.>>108931037You don't seem to understand where we are coming. The world isn't a very nice place sometimes you have to torture people for the good of earth. Sometimes you must be evil to let your people live well. Would you rather let these chinese torture you because you ran a red light? Or let russian niggers run your country? have you seen how retarded they are? fucking moron.
>>108926911yes. we must become everything they call us.
>>108931045no one wants another patriot act. it's nonpartisan. this is america not europe. aka land of the free.>>108931055blah blah blah "torture is useful" go work for the CIA wannabe spook. no one cares how much government dick you suck. it's embarrassing that you do it for free here on 4chan.
>>108931163"marred by the surveillance stuff" and what exactly do you think is the point of data centers numbskull?? i can't believe i'm watching you in real time realize which side is the right side...
>>108931178A datacenter, much like a gun, can be used for good an evil, and i'm not about to give up on the good just because normie ludditer retards can't outsmart Palantir by conducting private anonymous communications.
>>108926735anti-AI is anti-5G all over again
>>108931233surveillance and psyops are the only use cases for AI
>>108931233if it can be used for evil, then it will be. don't tell me you trust government and corporations to do the right thing...
>>108931131lmao i fucking would. I would absolutely love to torture traitors like you along with leftist and rightist a like.
>>108926735The extremism isn’t being against ai in on itself, the extremism is a willingness to act against the wishes of the billionaire class. There is no worse sin in America
>>108931272I think thats wrong at least these data centers are useful to people instead the billionaire shitholes that are using up all the water are selling corps to foreign countries where we do not see anything from it outside of our water stolen.
>>108931271sucky sucky
>>108931261I can use this pencil lying on my desktop right now to poke your eyes out, and pretty sure that's happened already and will happen again sometime. Does that mean it's ok to get your panties in a bunch over pencils?
>>108931287>at least these data centers are useful to peopleJust as a huge aluminum smelter is useful to people. You don’t want it in your backyard, though.
>>108931293do you think that's relevant to what we're talking about?
>>108931249Literally just told the free version of Gemini to generate a rather complex script for violentmonkey that I needed, and it did so perfectly in like 2 seconds. Never typed a line of that language in my life.kys
>>108931316A 100%. This "AI evil n sheeit" is just "orange man bad" NPC behavior repackaged for zoomers.
>>108931287>billionaires: bad>data centers owned by billionaires: good???
>>108931318So the use-case for hundreds of billions of dollars of investment are throwaway userscripts for people who don’t even pay for ai?
>>108931329I am saying that at least one is progressing technologies as opposed to selling off our country. One is through there greed making us stronger the other is making us weaker and straight up stealing. Farmers do this shit all the time.
>>108931318Woah dude it wrote a short script?? In JAVASCRIPT?!?>openmouthsoi.webp
>>108931318>violentmonkeyso you didn't do anything useful.
>>108931325you are equally reflexive on "AI good".
>>108931342>make product>sell it abroad>"you’re selling out our country!!!"huh?
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>>108931342will you admit that data centers have downsides?
>>108931365Agreed, it can also shit itself on logic problems, do your high school homework and even do things like financial planning where it just makes up numbers out of thin air. Best thing since sliced bread
>>108931391I would be willing to say that they are minor and usually the downsides are about the same as any other industry.
>>108931405do you put intrustion of people's privacy in the "minor downsides" category?
>>108931405>benefits of having a data center near your house: ??>cons if having a data center near your house: you’re now in direct competition for water and power with mr shekelbergThey provide almost no jobs to the local area, they pay almost no taxes besides land tax, they strain local water and power transmission/generation. Why would anyone want it nearby? There is zero upside outside of a short term construction boom.
>>108926735Unironically true.If you don't believe in the AGI machine god you're a threat to the economy, because without it the economy collapses - and boomers die.
>>108931434Can we get total boomer death without the collapse?
>>108927178>The anti-AI shit is funded by Chinaof the x-country spheres of influence trying to control my daily life, china has been the least bothersome
>>108931636how would you know this? how do you know that it isn't causing this you fucking retard? China has been caught funding left and the right. Hasan just was caught being funded by the fucking chinks you retard fuck.
>>108931425Oh well? Not everyone can work for a biotech company not everyone can work in IT. Who gives a fuck the upside is its beating china.
>>108931659Beating china by doing what, exactly? Replacing all the work that half the population in the West is doing, while not really touching manufacturing, which is China’s strength?AI succeeding means that Ranjesh Sukhdeep from Bangalore (iq 85) can do what an educated college grad from MIT can. Thirdie shitholes with retarded populations have the most to gain here
>>108931713The application at which companies are using data centers in a very wide array of things. Its not all just used for chatbots. retard
>>108931656Who's funding the current American administraiton and it's big tech giants? Because that's clearly my enemy.
>>108931948just kys. I understand disliking the closed source aspect of a lot of this but when it comes to siding chinks or vatnik retards instead of trying to fix the closed nature of it is truly retarded.
>>108927317I hate people who compare AI to nothingburgers of technology like whatever communication tech you mentioned. Try it with farming and feudalism, or sea travel and capitalism. Also the main argument is not that we can make communism work with AI, it’s that if we keep status quo with AI we will cause extinction.
>>108926997good goy!
>>108931163>>108931233>>108931365shalom rabbi
