Jesus Christ Elon is retarded
>>108930683Don't take the Lords name in vain
>>108930683He's literally the richest man on earth. You do it if he's so dumb.
It's simple - you get an input and you feed it into an AI. It will make the compiled code for you.
>>108930695Implicit in your statement is the premise that IQ is the primary differentiator between billionaires and normal professionals.
>>108930683>Elon is retardedYet auto exists.
>>108930699If there's anything I don't want AI doing it's compiling my code lmaoIt's bad enough at C, you think I want it doing assembly?
>>108930708That's exactly what makes him retarded
>>108930713I just assume all of /g/ is still stuck in C99 land.
>>108930721>C99Based
>>108930683C++ had to make the nullptr token because no, no you cant
>>108930683Elon is more successful than you. He is a superior human in every way. Get fucked, retard.
>>108930812bold of you to claim he is human
>>108930812
>>108930695At least Martin Shkreli could properly argue about this sort of thing live.
>automatic typingNOrway hopes it's not up to AI to determine it's type..
Isn't that the worlds most insecure man?Didn't he pay someone to play PoE for him so he can brag about being high on the leaderboards
>>108930812you're also trash according to your definitionyou're not better than elon
>jeets defending world #1 scam artistFigures.
>>108930721Couldn't be me, HAHAHA!>t. K&R Chad
>>108930683holy based I didn't know elon was a cppchad
stop bullying the billionaire with assburgers
>>108930701That is literally the American religion>if you’re so smart how come you ain’t rich?
>>108931619>PoEalso D4 I believe
>>108930695>>108930812>he earned more Monopoly fiat money than you, therefore he's intelligentno. the collusion of western governments into business makes the wealth of most billionaires invalid. they readily employ the state in their favor. net worth in USD acts as a NAP violation counter.
>>108930695>>108930717>>108930812Dumb niggers. The vast majority of the "super rich" class benefited from monumental levels of family help early on. Musk, Gates, and Bezos all received (whether by gift, investment, or inheritance) very large sums of money through their relatives, and family friends, at the start.https://www.fundable.com/learn/startup-stories/amazonhttps://www.independent.co.uk/space/elon-musk-made-money-rich-b2212599.htmlhttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/05/how-bill-gates-mother-influenced-the-success-of-microsoft.htmlThere's no shame in it, but these guys are not the fucking gods, geniuses or supermen that you terminally online mudskins think they are.
>>108931783lowkey based af frfr on god
>>108931849It's because he feels the need to be an expert on everything. What is he good at? Being a businessman. That's it. But he needs to be an expert in software, engineering, gaming, politics, and on and on ad infinitum. So he ends up pissing literally everyone off when he inevitably says something retarded about their specific field of interest/expertise. I can't think of a single group that Elon hasn't offended.
>>108930683with ai why wouldn't you require declaration?
>>108931867Hopefully he can finally replace the indians with ai and deport them using tesla robots.
>>108931737>>if you’re so smart how come you ain’t rich?Smart people aren't inherently psychopathic and narcissistic, which is the main drive to become millionaire.
>>108931849Actually no. He doesn't has the minimum level of self consciousness to not speak retarded shit in public.
the only untyped language I know of is Tcl, and even then everything is kinda typed since every value is presented as a string. So it's more of a "monotyped" language than anything else. I have no clue what the fuck they're talking about.
>>108931899They're speaking Indian
Elon Musk is proof that surgical correction of the upper airways increases agency in humans, because his whole face had to be restored after that whole>making a joke about a dead momthing he did as a teenElon Musk is also proof that men will literally rather invent SkyNet and The Matrix than go to therapy or even talk honestly about their feelings without drowning themselves in ketamine.The combination of these two facts suggest that almost all rich people havd daddy issues and trust issues.
>>108931796>benefited from monumental levels of family help early onmillions of other people did yet nobody is at Elon's level. why is that? there are millionaire and billionaire's kids who lived in absolute luxury from day 1. where are the million other SpaceX and Tesla companies?
>>108931918>go to therapyOr he could just be normal?
>>108931892>psychopathic and narcissistic>>108931918>daddy issues and trust issues.is that why you're poor? you're too normal?
>>108931921>why is that?Luck
>>108931892>i dont have 6 figures in my bank account because i'm not psychopathic and narcissistic>i dont have 5 figures in my bank account because i'm not psychopathic and narcissistic>i dont have 4 figures in my bank account because i'm not psychopathic and narcissistic>i dont have 3 figures in my bank account because i'm not psychopathic and narcissisticGreat cope i guess, is that what you tell your parents too?
>>108931945>luckand do you think it's normal to get angry at a lottery winner? your starving brown insecurities are getting exposed as well.
>>108931972If that lottery winner thinks he's God's greatest gift to mankind and an expert polymath then yeah it's fine to get a little annoyed
>>108931796>terminally onlinewhat type of person uses this insult, a literal boomer?everyone is on their phones nowadays
>>108930683No, he is a genius
>>108931783Musk doesn't have that much fiat money
>>108931956I live in a third world country, even if I saved every cent I earn I wouldn't be able to amass a million euroridoos in my lifetime.
>>108930690fpbp
>>108930695Intelligence and success are only loosely correlated. Silicon valley was always going to mint billionaires. If Elon was even a year slower some other tech bro would've created PayPal (entire other companies already were working on it at the time)Elon doesn't have a single original idea and deep down knows he's a fraud, which is why he literally pays people to play videogames for him so he can brag about it
>not that it will matter much in the AI futureWhether true or false, I hate people who make such statements, as if they are just trying to put people down and appear superior
>>108930812Shalom
>>108932943Welcome to liberals and other types brainwashed by jews to act like kikes
>>108932965are you referring to me or to elon? thanks
>>108930721C99 is objectively the best thing ever and the GNU C Reference Manual the only documentation you ever nee.
>>108932968That’s for you to decide, I wasn’t trying to read your mind or anything
>>108930695so difficult to get rich when tesla being up 0.1% means you made hundreds of millions of dollars that day
>>108930683So the future will be just C and asm?
>>108930695IQ is indeed correlated with income but at after above 120 IQ income is no longer correlated with IQ and after about 135-140 IQ it becomes negatively correlated with income.I can see many reasons why, most people won't understand you, and if they somehow do they might see you as a threat and for the person with the high IQ almost everyone is a retard. It's not exactly rewarding to work somewhere where everyone eats crayons and your ideas which would be very valuable if implemented gets shut down and a crayon eater who says we should buy more red crayons to eat gets a bonus and is promoted. For someone with 140 IQ a 110 IQ guy feels literally retarded.
>>108930683You just figured this out just now.
>>108932977thanks for nothing so you cant even explain your own statement. fucking bot
>>108930683It's like you've never heard of javascript, which is literally the most widely used language on the planet. If 5th world jeets can figure out scope, why can't you? Give your fucking variables a meaningful name. a = 12NumOfMonths = 12
>>108930683He has the exact same attitude towards self driving cars: instead of adding sensors the computer just has to figure it out based on cameras that don't work in fog or low light.
>>108933043All serious projects have moved from javascript to typescript.That says it all.
>>108933043Number of months for what, Einstein
>not that it will matter much in the AI futurewe are in the AI future now, and the science is settled -- AI works better with types than without types.
>>108930683>untyped languagesno such thing
>>108933016no one asked you about income retard, you were asked to become as rich as elon who btw has no income
>>108933092Well there correlation with net worth isn't much better.
>>108933124of course it isn't, because you have the iq results of all billionaires, you must be a bitter wagie midwit, you are entirely outside communication range of someone like elon, so the way you see a 90 iq person is the way someone like elon would see you, that's why you keep falling for his trolling and why you keep him rent free in your head
>>108933145I barely think about Elon or other billionaires at all. I like statistics though.
>>108933159of course you don't, you have no statistics on billionaire iqs so you must be lying
>>108933173If you're implying that the net worth correlation with IQ plateaues except for billionaires then I don't know what to say to that.
>>108931867He's not even good at being a business man, he just has tons of fucking moneyIt's like those Google executives that go out gamblingThey can burn hundreds of thousands of dollars and win it all back just because they've got enough money to float them to the next 1/1000 odds gamble that gets them a jackpot his father owned an emerald mine worked by slaves
>>108933203billionaires are people who take risks on novel ideals all the time, that's how they stay rich for decades, you can't ascribe a midwit iq to them, not especially to a person who has as much of a risk appetite as musk does, if you can't relate to that then you have no business predicting anyone's iq, you are more suited to taking orders and saying yes sir
>>108933303Did you know that there are gamblers who earn money over long periods playing games of pure chance?
>>108933312yes to be a successful gambler not only do you have to intimately know the game, you also have to be able to read your opponents better than they can read you, and even deceive them from time to time, this is not a revelation
holy fuck the Indian is so mad that somebody would doubt his bharat god-king Elon
>>108933326Ok, Elon. You're the smartest boy, good job.
>>108933341next time, keep try keeping me out of your head, you never know, maybe you'll think more clearly
>>108933326you literally do notsee: >>108933270If you have piles of fucking money, you can keep throwing money at ridiculous bets until probability takes over and you win it all back.
why is the dell keynote music the same as the grubhub meme cartoon?just let the keynote play from the beginning it starts a few seconds in. dell keynote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1tetAL6RScgrubhub meme cartoon:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vPKZKrhXts
>>108933424you don't even understand probability, wagie
>>108933497I literally do. Like the literal concept I just explained to you, lmao.
>>108933505you do understand musk left paypal with less than a hundred million so he's more than 10,000xd his investment in 20 years if we assumed it was around 80 million? so why aren't there centimillionaires who are getting the same returns? you can use your wagie calculator if the math is too difficult
>>108933562I’m better off not trying to argue with a 90iq retard so I will leave you be
>>108930683>manual laborer laughing when the owner tries to relate to his employees by performing manual labor for a few hours
>>108930690He never said Christ, that's how they get around that problem.
>>108933669you know, regular waging can fix that discomfort you feel at the back of your throat
>>108933669>>108933698Don't argue with retards.
>>108931899asm and forth are examples of 'true' untyped languages. The original C language was also untyped. I believe fortran was as well though not sure on that one.
>>108932919Paypal was actually created by elon's brother, kimbal. Elon was just a tagalong and kimbal had him removed from the company because he was incompetent. The tesla board of directors tried to get musk out for similar reasons.
>>108930695you should kys
remember when people collectively joked that Elon was the real life ironman
>>108930695okay give my father an emerald mine first
>>108930695>He's literally the richest man on earth.During the most retarded period in human history.
>>108934392Turns out he was more like Howard Hughes during the retard years.
>>108930690Taking the Lord's name in vain means something completely different.
>>108930690>I am le pious internet religion manCan you fuck off with the self righteousness ?You are literally posting with the codes of unbelievers
I like how these obvious browns are acting like being rich means you're smart, or cool, or anything besides rich. It's all they can aspire to, to escape as far as possible from the place they came from. They associate the cosmopolitan sexiness of extreme wealth (as depicted in their chosen slop media) with being 'good' ir something just like jews do. It's a pretty jewey trait that other gross subhumans have picked up the closer they get to white spaces and professions. Billionaires are mentally ill, simple as. Only a healthy white man would understand that without the need of another to walk them to that conclusion. Being a billionaire would fucking suck lol, imagine being chained in every sense of the word to that kind of rabid defense and accrual of your horde... It's kinda funni ehhehe
>untyped langaugeyou have to cast a size to a pointer every time you want to use it? repeat after me, dynamic typing is not "untyped". dynamic typing is not weak typing. static typing can be inferred. elon musk lied about his stats in a video game.
>>108933016Dis nigga talm bout IQ like It's power levels lmao
>>108930683He steals from Americans, so he’s based. Hope y’all are invested in some fund tracking the Nasdaq when spacex ipos. The only retards here are yourselves.
>>108933424Not how probability works. They factor in the jackpot wins into the RTP and ensure that it remains under 100%.If it didn't work like that, then over all the thousands of players they have, they would be losing money, but clearly they aren't.If you think it's somehow rigged so that more money means you have a non-linear increase in chance of winning the jackpot, it isn't. Each play is one more spin of the wheel. 10x pay in = 10x spins of the wheel. Basically every gambling jurisdiction on earth has that as a law.
>>108931796there are a lot of nepo babies out there anon. not all of them end up as trillionaires. so there is something else to it, or otherwise all those nepo babies would be trillionaires. or even billionaires. this seems to really upset some people for some reason.
>>108932174He is smart but a real genius is not wasting their life doing that shit.A real genius is laying back playing videogames while this fucking loser goons to his programming shit that only he will ever look at.This dude makes a public mockery of himself, he's a comedian not a businessman.
>>108930683Weak typing should be illegal.Dynamic typing should be illegal.
Static typing is for spergs.
>>108932174I estimate Elon has written maybe 500 lines of code throughout his life. Mostly hello worlds Which would be perfectly fine if he didn't take credit for everythingAt the end of the day he's clearly good at something which is making business decisions, socializing, that type of gay shit
>>108930695Money isn't important, you're not going to bring that to the afterlife
>>108933462i like the filet o fish version myselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v4bM7BvKFg
>>108937900>has written maybe 500 lines of code throughout his life. >Mostly hello worlds >Which would be perfectly fine if he didn't take credit for everythingSo the same as your average poster on /g/>At the end of the day he's clearly good at something which is making business decisions, socializing, that type of gay shitYeah that one's not your average poster on /g/ doe
>>108930695>setting off all the people who make fun of poorfags in other threadsspbp
>>108933462>soulless corporation uses soulless corporate slop musicwow, mind blown
>>108930690Unlimited based works
>>108937900He's terrible at making business decisions, which is why every company board he's been on has removed or tried to remove him.The only thing he's good at is that he had a strong personal brand a couple decades ago, and had a good nose for investing into deep tech companies that he could cause to succeed off the back of his personal brand. That's not the case anymore today though.
>>108930690Jesus "Kike on a stick" Christ isn't my lord
>>108939655What about ya "oy" weh?
>>108930683
Non-type checked languages kick the can down the road.
>>108939757Dynamic languages are also type checked.Assembly language is not type checked and is arguably the end of the road.
>>108930683This conversation opens up a box of worms that shouldn't be opened up.
>>108930695why are lefties so mad at this post?
>>108939773I should have specified compile time type checked.
>>108939684hey-soos was a 5'1 brown boy btw
> The compiler should be able to figure out types automaticallyI disagree with this part. It's definitely a very hard problem for a deterministic compiler to do this reliably.> Not that it will matter much in the AI futureI agree with this part. We will probably just program in English and the AI will figure out the types (not the compiler).
>>108939790Yes, that's what I was hinting at that you needed to clarify :^)Now I can argue that there is ample (though low quality) research showing that there is no bug density or programmer efficiency difference between statically typed and dynamically typed languages, except in shorter programs where dynamic languages win in terms of efficiency, and in learning new libraries, where static languages win when comments are stripped out of both versions (but is that realistic?).If static typing was so useful, it should be easy to measure it to be so. I argue the reason why there doesn't seem to be a difference, despite the intuition that I'm pretty sure everyone will agree with that there should be a quantitatively measurable difference, is that the programming style used by people familiar with either approach is quite different and rebalances the respective strengths of the paradigm vs the weaknesses.Furthermore, there is evidence that typing is not that useful in that the efficient early high level languages elected not to have types, even though typing discipline had already been known by then, and that the types used in the early days were used to infer the right register and instruction for specialization rather than for error assistance, as evidence by the numerous hatches allowing bypassing the types. The primary counterargument to this argument is that it could instead be due to the slow machines possibly not handling type systems as well.Furthermore, the type errors in dynamic programs are generally estimated at between 2 and 3% of errors in a program, and there is no evidence of what kind of error there would be instead of type errors otherwise (because programmer attention is also a bounded resource) or whether the error was easier to not make or simply easier to fix otherwise, and nobody uses full HM types or full dependent linear types, which would be the natural choice if types were really that useful.
>>108939791Actually he was about 5'5, likely was ugly or disfigured in some way, and likely had a limp. I won't list all the evidence but basically, the bible recounts events where outsiders would come and ask which of the people in a crowd was jesus, and people in the group pointing immediately to him. Isaiah also says 'no form or majesty that we should look at him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him', for example.
>>108930695all rich people are stupid
>>108939823>I disagree with this part. It's definitely a very hard problem for a deterministic compiler to do this reliably.That's not at all true and several languages can do it, especially in the ML family.>I agree with this part. We will probably just program in English and the AI will figure out the types (not the compiler).That's a next level retarded take. We tried that for ages with all the nocode shit and cobol and all that crap. The problem is always the same: programming languages allow a fixed and unambigious interpretation of intent. Natural language does not allow this.
>>108939828I'll be honest and say I'm a junior dev working with TypeScript. I can't imagine how to deal with normal js without relying on JsDocs at the very least.How for example do people used to dynamic languages deal with this situation: You have to change a common data structure which permeates deeply in the codebase. Lots of functions take it as an input parameter, and possibly only use parts of it. Some of the functions might have to change their behaviour to account for the change. With static typing, you'd change the type of the data structure, which causes all instances using the type in a wrong way to flare up in red.How do dynamic language users deal with this? Clojure comes in mind. They can't just keep all of the instances using the data structure in their head, can they? Do they structure the codebase in a way that you can mitigate the problem?
>>108939856>That's not at all true and several languages can do it, especially in the ML family.Dynamic typing or type inference is not the same as proper static typing. I should have worded it better: the compiler should do this, while retaining all the advantages that static typing provides (otherwise you are just making a slightly better Python). This is a very hard problem to do deterministically.>We tried that for ages with all the nocode shit and cobol and all that crap. The problem is always the same: programming languages allow a fixed and unambigious interpretation of intent. Natural language does not allow this.With the previous nocode shit, there was never close to human-level programming AI available. Availability of such AI changes the game. The interpretation of intent might not be completely unambigous, but it could be good enough that the overall process now works.
>>108939884>I'll be honest and say I'm a junior dev working with TypeScript. I can't imagine how to deal with normal js without relying on JsDocs at the very least.This quote presented without further comment.
>>108939886>reddit spacing>unable to comprehend simple googlable words>tries to string together random ones in hopes of "defending" himselfGo back.
>>108939940Yeah. You don't have a lot of choice when it comes to jobs in the current market. Can you answer the naive question? Do clojurists write tests for each function implementation as way to emulate the contract checking which a compiler does with static typing? If so, isn't it bad that you have to rely on developer discipline? You could enforce that with a review or CI checks, sure, but it's a slower feedback loop than static type checking.
>>108930690>SAR PRAISE HEY ZEZUS SAR>DIOS TOOK AWAY MY ABUELITAS DIABETES O ALGOdo you beaners ever do anything productive?
>>108934276He got removed for demanding paypal's servers run w*ndows instead of Unix, that's how retarded he is
>>108939967The problem is that you have no experience with anything, and you are cargoculting hard like all the other retards. No thought, just following the herd and then paroting things you heard somewhere.Js is not just dynamically typed, it's also weakly typed. Languages work differently, for example lua interpreters and common lisp REPLs do a very good job of identifying things like typos, while python interpreters generally make no effort of it whatsoever. Typescript largely doesn't help through the typing discipline, which is often bypassed in practice in larger programs in a lot of areas (in fact, the ability to so easily bypass the typing discipline is what makes it so useful as opposed to something like the rust type system), but rather the typo checking capabilities, which aren't related to static vs dynamic, or even to types. The vast majority of other things it catches are due to weak typing, not to dynamic typing.Only types on the level of proof systems like coq, idris or lean can be used instead of tests. The fact you think you can avoid tests in fucking typescript of all things is hilarious. You're not on the level of a junior, you're not even on the level of someone who should be hired as an intern. Lmao. You don't deserve an answer beyond: just google it, retard.
>>108940038Not accurate. That was just the straw that broke the camel's back, but he's just been constantly making bad decisions until then.
>>108930695he's born in privilege, that's the only reason he's rich
>>108932970>you ever nee.neet?
>>108940065Getting blasted with truth is the best way to learn. It's hard to tease that out from greybeards.>The problem is that you have no experience with anything, and you are cargoculting hard like all the other retards. No thought, just following the herd and then paroting things you heard somewhere.Incorrect. I've a narrow experience with TS in specific in a fairly large codebase, which is why I'm asking you for how I'm wrong. We have a dedicated testing team so I've not had to write anything beyond unit tests myself.>Typescript largely doesn't help through the typing discipline, which is often bypassed in practice in larger programs in a lot of areas I'm familiar with Lean4 and by extension how insufficient TS is in comparison, so I know what you mean with the tests. If I got to choose, Lean4 with proofs would be the future instead of tests, but that's beside the point.That however doesn't answer my question of how people using dynamic languages deal with the example of bunch of function implementation taking a data structure as a parameter. Am I correct to assume that they have a unit test suite paired with each implementation, which helps the user catch a potential bug caused by the changed data structure not aligning with the implementation anymore?
What I thought were untyped languages turns out to be dynamically typed ones.So what the fuck is an untyped language?
>>108940284Forth maybe?
>>108940284Forth, assembly, early C and fortran
>>108940065Not him but you are just as naive. Tests are fine but they are honestly just a cope for the language being insufficient to properly specify the program in one go. Typescript really does help a lot with that. Expecting the developer to have discipline to use a shitty language without it breaking is just dumb since the point of a programming language is to reduce mental load and multiply human effort. You aren't special just because you may be willing to work twice as hard over and over and over again instead of using a better language and relaxing a bit (or being more productive)
>>108940405Thanks for proving my point. Webtards really need to eat lead. Fix the programmer genepool today. Otherwise, reminder that you're not forced to opine about things you don't even begin to understand.
