How do we stop them from destroying the internet?
>>108932067They aren't destroying shit, they're holding it up (including this website)For all the shit they get, a lot of their stuff is open source on github, most of what they offer is free, and if you don't want to use them, nothing is stopping you from using ddos-guard or fastly nigger
>>108932067Mock and ridicule everyone who is using it. Keep reposting the NSA documents "SSL opened and closed here".Remind everyone that they are a hostile domestic state actor.Point out that it's service is shit, has regular downtimes and that they cloudflare turnstile stops NOT A SINGLE AI scraping bot from DDoSing you (fucking Anubis is better at that).Whether or not a big tech service uses them, isn't imporrant. Google goves the feds access to your data anyway, whether or not they have cf in between doesn't change anything... it's the little websites that matter.
>>108932108retard that NSA document had nothing to do with cloudflare. it was GFE (Google Frontend Server) NOT cloudflare in that slide. hang yourself
>>108932077you will never bear children btw
All part of the plan to introduce Static IP's tied to you for life so THEY can punish any bad goys who post wrongthink online.
>>108932067Why doesn't it make the diakup modem connection sound while you're waiting on the silly ass checkbox to appear? I have gigabit connection speed and half the sites use this annoying slow shit now.
>>108932130>it wasnt cloudflare, it was just the exact same thing as cloudflare, the NSA would NEVER do with Cloudflare what they do with Google! I love the government any everybody who doesn't love it as well deserves to get shot!
>>108933038>they can backdoor a websites services>it's not like they could just backdoor the website itselfWhat's the fucking difference? Kill yourself.
what alternative DNS servers are there to use besides cloudfaggot?
>>108932067What specifically do you know of that hasn't been corrupted and decayed by an unimagineable amount of retardation and profit seeking? Can you even mention one thing?
>>108933520There's a website with like more than 20 larger DNS services and another that indexes literally every publically accesible one on the entire internet.
>>108933561which do you recommend?
>>108933520lol you can't avoid them.I made my own recursive DNS resolver and it hits cloudflare and google all the time. I tried banning them but they have gorillions of ns servers so it's like playing whack a mole
>>108933520the one of your ISP
>>108933683>let your ISP spy on you goyfoh faggot
>>108933580at the very least, blinding your ISP is possible without a VPN via Unbound to DoT
>How do we stop them?Don't use them and configure fail2ban correctly
>>108932067normalfags. don't. care.cloudflare has already won. it will keep winning. you can do nothing about it.
>>108933696But cloudflare, with free zogbot access, is fine?The default setup, when you don't touch anything, is for your router to run a caching dns server like dnsmaq and connecting to the ISPs DNS.DNS only becomes a security nightmare when the TTL is so low that you can track visit times. WHICH CLOUDFLARE DOES. A website behind cloudflare has a 5min TTL. They have to be considered compromised anyway.Any other website has hours or day (because guess what: hosts and ISPs who run DNS servers do not want to be DDoSed constantly).btw. if the target website doesn't have ECH, your ISP can spy on you anyway, DNS queries will then not give him any extra infos. But if you use a different DNS server, you distribute the same information to others.
Cloudflare dns is fast thobeit
>>108933520Google.
>>108933775No absolutely not. Cloudflare is terrible, but, it's unavoidable (as far as I know) as others mentioned, but, your ISP has closer reach than say the CIA/NSA/Mossad/FBI, unless you're doing truly "questionable" shit that gets their attention.
>>108933775>ECHthis is why I wrap my entire OS in Unbound that encrypts using mullvad DoT.
>>108933829this! this is what everyone should be doing or at the very least, use a VPN. however, the VPN compromises speed and most tones I need my speed so the fallback is exactly this
>>108933787the DNS server from your ISP is faster, because it's physically closer>>108933822>its unavoidableit isn't, Cloudflare is total garbage, its horrid for DDoS protection, because every single AI bot passes through it. It protects nothing. In fact, you have higher downtime if you use it, because of .unwrap().Any website behind cloudflare is COMPROMISED. Being worried about your security when you visit a website that terminates SSL at cloudflare, is ridiculous. You already stipped naked in public.>your ISP has closer reachthe ISP has to be legally forced, while cloudflare gives them straight access.There are also legal and contractual obligations.If your mailman opens your mail and reads your letters, you can sue him.If your ISP, which who you have a contract with, does it, you also have legal leaverage.If Cloudflare does it.. LMAO...
>literal mossad agents in here defending glowflare
>>108934709It says more about /g/ that seemingly about 70% of us know literally nothing about nameservers or DNS. Because it's something you learn in a job, rather than just reading about programming at home and watching women explain it on YouTube.
>>108932067>How do we stop them from destroying the internet?The method made it into the ad, public blockchains have horizontal scaling to ddos, and purchasing blockspace speedbumps spam in proportion. Just serve a frontend in a zip a user can run off localhost to avoid dns/cdn eclipsing, ads, etcAs these monopolies enshittify on their captive user groups world computer solutions work at the competitive fringe to ddos mitigation, botspam protection, and can preclude the need for dns with zips of frontends
