512 GB variant: 1700-1800 USD2 TB variant: 2100-2400 USD
>>108932072They will probably wait it out. Because some of this supply shortage shit seems literally targeted against Valve.Do not remember that Xbox was never a profitable project. Microslop wasted stupid amount of money to make sure Sony is not doing well. They were doing well regardless, but Microslop halved their success due to amount of subsidized hardware they handed out to people to take the spot where PS could've been.
>>108932072>Do not rememberDo not forgetslfx
>>108932072I really fucking wonder why didn't they release it already. What exactly are they doing at this moment? Negotiating with RAM manufacturers? Just waiting? That seems dumb
Bump
>>108932182Gaben is having six large pizzas delivered to his yacht via his other, slightly smaller yacht.
>>108932182not sure if you've been living under a rock but the market has been pretty volatile the last year or two and it's not a good idea to do business under such conditions, especially if your margins are low
>>108932969The point is that it's not going to get any better, so why just wait and do nothing, at least delay or cancel the Steam Machine
>>108933041it has been delayed, that's why it's not out yet. also smart people don't pretend to know the future, only retards like you do
>>108933108Its specs aren't getting any less obsolete with time.They should just cancel it. It's not like they're a public company and need to worry about their stocks.
>>108933403that would waste all the cpus and gpus they bought and probably the cpu heatsinks and cases too
>>108932072>2k for a ps5fucking kek
>>108933411Cost of bad investment.It happens.
>>108932143consoles haven't been sold at a loss since the ps4/xbone
When PS6 finally releases, it will essentially be a forever console, there little to no innovation after Apple M1 in the CPU space, NVIDIA doesn't give a fuck about gaming too much anymore either, it's all over
>>108933403why would they cancel it when people might want a low/mid end prebuilt? not everyone is looking for $8000 prebuilts with 5090s. this "outrage" is so performative it's insane lol
>>108933537Even though Valve said it will be priced like a PC and not like a console, people are implicitly expecting that it will have some value for someone who already has a PC and uses Steam, perhaps through lower price for better PC parts.
>>108933411>that would waste all the cpus and gpus they boughtif they'd bought all that shit, they would have bought RAM.
Post your predictions for the release date instead
And it will be sold out on day one.
>>108932143>They will probably wait it out.It's already dated because they speced it for the average PC last year with third worlders included, rather than what will be somewhat competitive for 5 years.>Because some of this supply shortage shit seems literally targeted against Valve.No they just didn't contract anything because they are hardware amateurs.
>>108932182I really think the reason is valve is slower than they internally believe themselves to be despite always missing deadlines. They don't have a crunch culture because le flat hierarchy meme
>>108933537>why would they cancel it when people might want a low/mid end prebuilt?Why don't they just go buy it now? You can get better specs for the same price.
>>108932072Could it be $1200 instead?
>>108933629>people are implicitly expecting that it will have some value for someone who already has a PC and uses Steam, perhaps through lower price for better PC parts.wow literally who "people" are "implicitly" "expecting". Somehow this sentence is completely meaningless yet defining retardation. It's for people who haven't gotten into PC because they want a living room solution yet they are willing to spend more for PC functionality instead of just getting a PS5. Well at least it was in november. Now its for retards who want to fund valve.
>>108932072People should just buy a second hand am4 system with a 5600x, rx6800 and 16GB ddr4 ram or something. Much more powerful and much cheaper than whatever valve is going to release.
>>108932072I predicted that gabe cube would be $1,199 but this is way too cheap. I think it's ~$1,599 or something. If Steam Dick is $999, Gabe Cube is at least $1,599.You don't think about this math by being fair.
>>108935646because they want a smaller form factor? because they want better integration with other steam products, like the puck etc? because they like the way it looks? because of any reason they want? why does this product upset you so much is what i'm genuinely curious about
>>108935758Because it can't compete with some middle tier Lenovo gaming PC.
>>108935795link a better PC from lenovo for a cheaper price then. also i don't know if you've noticed but there typically are many kinds of products at every price range, not just one. not sure why you think this should be an exception where apparently only lenovo products are allowed to exist and nothing else? are you a chinese national by chance?
>>108935758>why does this product upset you so much is what i'm genuinely curious aboutNo you aren't. You're just telling me what my opinion is when my meaning is plain in the post you replied to but didn't read. It will be woefully overpriced and almost anyone would be better served buying something else. That's it.
>>108935809>but there typically are many kinds of products at every price range, not just one. not sure why you think this should be an exception Its not an exception retard. Overpriced is overpriced, it doesn't matter if it has valve stamped on it or not. I denounce anything that's a waste of money. The machine is particularly bad because people waited on it and didn't buy a PC as ram and storage prices rose so now they are fucked.
Steam Machine more like a steamy dump of buffalo shit.
>>108932182>I really fucking wonder why didn't they release it alreadyWdym, the steam machine released 11 years ago
>>108935916>people waited on it and didn't buy a PC as ram and storage prices rose so now they are fucked.how the fuck is that valve's fault? are you retarded?
>>108935619>It's already dated because they speced it for the average PC last yearDid the average PC get a huge performance bump ever since the start of the RAMpocalypse I didn't notice or what?
>>108932182I have a suspicion the reason they vastly increased the price of the Steam Deck was to test the waters pricing wise. Will people clear the Steam Deck inventories if they jack up the prices "due to inflated memory prices"? If yes they'll release the Steam Machines and tank the negative PR from the disappointingly large price until memory prices get sane again. If no they'll wait it out more.
>>108935977In fact the opposite, new PCs have shrinkflation
>>108936016I dunno about the negative PR. People aren't that stupid, if you tell them that it is that price because of the memory price situation they'll understand. Well okay no they won't because the people who can't afford it are going to cry sour grapes on reddit and twitter but the devices will still sell out.
>>108935974No price and no release date. Valve ironically damaged PC gaming for the customers they were trying to appeal to who could've just bought something that existed last year and used steam. Then in February when they report they have nothing to say they say, they said they will make blog posts to keep people updated then posted nothing. Their target become the first half of this year and now june, and I won't be surprised if there's just more blueballing in june instead of a product launch. It's important for you to understand as a brainlet no other reputable hardware competitor does this. Microsoft, sony, nintendo, apple, would never shadow drop their hardware and withold price until the shadow drop. That's fucking retarded and bad for your customers who need to make decisions.
>>108935977Thats the thing, if they speced it well and secured a ram contract they would be winning at the perfect time before the rug pull, instead of the whole thing blew up in their face. Also it's not just PCs you compete with. We will see if the PS6 has supply issues.
>>108936050They will watch some influencer on youtube do the math based on the cost of ram and SSDs. I'm still shocked deck was as much as a $300 increase, does that even survive a napkin calculation?
>>108936161maybe they are trying to make money on other devices so they can sell the frame and steam machine cheaper?
>>108936123you should sue them for keeping your heckin chungus black box from you
>>108936149But at this point even a five year old PC can run most games pretty well, at least at 2k. AAA gaming is almost entirely bullshit these days so even if the Box is specced like from last year it'll play most shit that most people want I think
>>108936181I really wish they would release a counter argument so you could buy one
>>108936203i don't need one so i'm not getting one
>>108936172The problem is if they are successful, they'll just realize they can charge high prices and make more money. Valve is its own cult like apple and they will prove it. Rational customers will have no reason to pay attention to their overpriced products. Shame because there's no substitute for a frame right now unlike the deck and machine.
>>108932072completely wrong, you must be retarded or something512 GB variant: 17,000-18,000 USD2 TB variant: 210,000-240,000 USDsony will also give away the ps6 for free, bundled with every other playstation model. xbox with be a repackaged cray and it just flew over my house. screencap this post.
>>108936123>Microsoft>hardware competitor>It's important for you to understand as a brainlet you are comedy gold nigger
>>108937517>he doesnt know
>>108937628xbox is dead.
>>108932072get a asus rog nuc 16 instead
>>108932143>They will probably wait it out.yeah!any day now, mate...any day... but two weeks tops
what's amazing is that supposedly those machines have already been produced which means money has already exchanged handsand supposedly the one having spent all this money is now letting them "rot" (as in depreciate in computational power by the day) with no indication to create any sort of revenue after all this spend...or am i that much of a retard and i'm not seeing a glaringly obvious point that dismantles all i've been stating just now?>inb4 yes [without further explanation]
It's over
>>108932072whaa i wouldn't pay 300 for it
>>108932072Don't forget.>Certified E-Waste on Launch Day! >8GB of VRAM.>8GB VRAM.>6 KEK Cores.
>>108932072I really think the Frame is next, since it's a complete SOC that's slightly older it might not be as bad. Under a grand I'm guessing at least.
>>108937909They probably did a deal with AMD a while ago for the hardware, so AMD likely delivered their end. Valve might have even have had the memory negotiated... but memory and storage has gone up so much it was better business to break a contract and force a renegotiation than supply at previously agreed prices. Tons of companies got hit by that.Steam machine was 100% a 'built to cost' machine and realistically should have cost $600-700 at max.
>>108936149The greed that caused them to even consider making the steam machine is the same greed that caused the ai ram shortage.They literally made the same mistake they made with the first steam machine and the crypto-boom. Greed disguised as business sense.
>Console is free/subsidized you pay $50-100/month and can play any steam game >console is locked to your steam account and can be bricked remotely by valve if you're a deadbeat
I can't wait for the price announcement. Valve, please.
>>108932072>My final price predictionI don't care.
>>108940119>Console is free/subsidized you pay $50-100/month and can play any steam gameTough questionIf you're an avid gamer who goes through multiple games a month then it would make sense, but anyone having money to subscribe probably doesn't have enough time to play so much.
>>108940119anyone paying $50-100/month on steam already has a gaming pc
>>108932072Should have just release it without any RAM just like any other NUC
>>108935929I'd rather drink piss from buffalo's ass.
Prices are 1699 for the 512 and $1999 for the 2TB BUT You will get $1000 steam store credits to spend.
>>108933411Sunk cost fallacy
>>108933411Why buy all those components but not the accompanying RAM?
>>108941250It's pretty likely whoever their memory/storage supplier was turned around, and did the Darth Vader 'we're changing the deal' thing
>>108940663This.>Let the goyim deal with acquiring RAM and storage
>>108932072> 512 GB> 2 TBYou don't need that much RAM for gaming and it would be much more expensive than 2400 USD even with just 512 GB.
>>108937909Some machines have already been produced. Once they release it, they'll need to start building more to serve future demand.They can't release the launch batch at $reasonable and then put the price up to $insane a few months later. (I guess they technically can but it would be a very bad idea.)
>>108941186Those numbers are far too big but I do think they might consider bundling some store credit.$999 including $100 credit?People are also forgetting that it's almost certainly going to be bundled with half-life 3.
>>108932143>seems literally targeted against Valve>"muh heckin based Valverino is being persoanlly targeted by teh ebil AI chuds!!!111oneone"this hobby got overran by delusional normie cunts holy fuck
>>108945392Seriously. Who are you?Am I being gangstalked?Your answer is not related to the post I made itt.But you seem to be well aware that I would realize that what you wrote is exactly an answer to something that I have posted on here a while (weeks) back.So I conclude that you must know that it was specifically me who wrote this.Why are you doing this? What's the purpose and meaning behind this?Was this your way of telling me that I'm being watched?Because this is what I'm getting from this.That I'm being watched and that you (or whoever) wants me to know that I am being watched.Explain yourself, please.I imagine there is some moral code in whatever you are doing that if I was to realize that this is happening, I would be allowed confirmation and answers.https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108355515/#108358753https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108355515/#108359099
>>108937909>>108945724Aw sweet a schizo
Valve must have the data, the metrics, the sentiment. They must know it won't sell over a certain price, or at least sell enough to make it 'worth' the project. And that $1k price point is pretty magical. So I think the Machine is going to start under 1k, optimistically I'd say 899, or maybe around 950, and maybe they'll upsell people to a 2tb model in the.. 1300-1400 price range.Wildcard option is if they sell a bare bones model.
Bump. Hopefully we'll see it release on June 5 or earlier.
Unironic take, Valve should give up building it themselves, they can't secure supply at a reasonable price, instead they need to partner with someone to build them so they can secure memory at more affordable rates.
