Did television just change forever?
>>108934899The real reason why SONY is moving away from WOLED/QD-OLED is because>LG increasingly vandalizing picture quality on purpose since years(pink tinted whites, 120hz pwm dithering, CPC vignetting that can't be turned off, forced sharpening effects(they call it "microcontrast enhancement" but its just sharpening), now theyintentionally desaturate reds in SDR/HDR so they look orange ffs)>QD-OLED's manufacturer is doing everything to stay on 55 and 65 inch panels and mislead people into getting scammed into buying inferior WOLED, also fringing issues and no wide green subpixel or vstripe improvements annlunced for TVs despite monitors already having these helpful QD-OLED improvementsHope this puts some perspective on what SONY is doing, there is also the fact if you're not part of the LG/Samsung korean oled mafia then you only have access to dogshit mediatek SoCs with poorer input latency performance and Google TV's shitty settings(no bt. 1886 gamma support, every setting confusingly named assuming the user is mentally immature)At least with LCD tech there are domestic japanese manufacturers, a plus for SONY being a japanese kabushiki gaisha.
does it display the video feed connected to one of its HDMI, VGA, composite or RGB ports and nothing else? or is it an oversized android tablet without a touchscreen digitizer, if so into the trash it goes.
>>108935009I love everything I'm seeing from the Bravia 9 II, but I love the infinite contrast of OLED and I don't think I could live without it.
Sony just does this stuff right
>>108935120Vghhhh... Nihonese excellence.
>>108935120>calibrated 1000 times to remove impurities
>>108934899This RGB miniLED crap seems like a huge step backwards from everything I've researched on it.Literally all they have to do to keep making LCD's better is just condense the dimming zones and add faster processing power. That's it.Instead every single company has started focusing on a fucking gimmick that does nothing but hurt actual real world performance.
>>108935009>>108935120I Thought Sony just sold their entire TV division to TCL
>>108936438They did.
>>108934899It's just MiniLED with RGB LEDs?
>>108936438>>108937207They did not. They're selling 51% of the TV business to TCL. The actual processing of the TVs will still be Sony. But TCL is actually making them, which hopefully means they'll be able to lower the prices without sacrificing the quality that people expect from Sony TVs. This particular TV is all Sony because the deal isn't in place yet anyway.
>>108938116so the moral of the story is.. wait a few months after any Sony release and get the TLC model instead since it's basically the same
>10yo+ tv finally shits the bed>ok lets just buy...>led, oled, qled, qnedwhat the fuck I didn't study for the test nigga
>>108936438That's probably why they're improving
>>108935120bet this is shit that every panel maker does and writes into the panel, kek
>>108938804my oleibia 32 incher is 20 years and counting. i wonder if im missing out though
>>108938804OLED, there's no question about it, unless you're a poorfag
>>108936438They also had engineering problems, because of Mediatek's inferior SoCs they had a problem in 2020(or was it 2021) where the OLED TV couldn't do 120hz without dropping the vertical resolution in half.Yes, you are reading this correctly, they just dropped half the lines, stretched the image vertically(effectively turning it into nonsquare pixels) and hoped that nobody would see this total scam.(what else do you call it???)iirc it also could do 1080p without dropping lines, either way a complete scam considering the 1080Tis of their time the LG CX and WBC C1 did 4K 120hz no problemoproof from sony's forum: https://ap.community.sony.com/s/question/0D5Dp00001YNtewKAD/kd43x85k-very-upset-4k120hz-issues?language=en_US
>>108936409>Literally all they have to do to keep making LCD's better is just condense the dimming zones and add faster processing power. That's it.But that's what miniLED is, they have denser, individually dimmable backlights. Obviously on a TV they could make it more than just 1000 zones, but done right it removes a lot of the issues inherent to LCD panels.
>>108938804>OLEDbuy QD-OLED S90F if you want chad glossy image, S95F or S95H for matte, #1 flaw is fringing on high contrast edgesAvoid WOLED currently unless you want pwm dithering and a vandalized image like the tv went through an european drug trafficking hotspot>LCDGet a QLED VA if available they have the best contrast, verify input latency, that is how you spot poor quality internals>TV OSAvoid Google TV, verify availability of 2.2(better for games), 2.4, bt.1886 gamma(better for sdr movies on OLED)>In generalverify calibration on reviews, aesthetics, buy previous model if you want to buy cheaper or prefer the previous model
>>108939444Why avoid Google OS, I thought this was just how Android tv is called now? Theres only one other OS on the market thats a *maybe* for me and its webOS. Rest of them suck complete ass.
>>108939643There are several OSs. Google OS, firetv, webos and such. That anon is a good goy who lets the tv spy on him, but the real way to go is either firetv or google os connected to an htpc. NEVER give internet access to your tv. If possible, brick the wifi chip because several TVs are known to scan for open hotspots, and some particularly unscrupulous ones even do a bit of bruteforcing on hotspots in range.With a direct connection like this, some OSs will be super naggy while others will just display the HDMI signal straight, which is why it matters what you choose though.
>>108939680>TVs are known to scan for open hotspots, and some particularly unscrupulous ones even do a bit of bruteforcing on hotspots in range.Source?
>>108939643It means the SoC is probably mediatek(inferior input lag and typically only one or two HDMI 2.1 ports) and the settings are confusingly named, like on WebOS the setting for SDR color gamut is named color gamut and on current models you can choose between sRGB, DCI-P3(the one you want) and Adobe RGB while on Google TV it's only a vaguely named single toggle that appears to toggle between sRGB(makes reds orange) and what i assume is DCI-P3, gamma is only an integer between -3 and 3 while LG/Samsung have the proper 2.0/2.2/2.4/BT.1886 settings you would want on any competent display.They also tend to not have FILMMAKER mode when it's a basic necessity in a landscape where TVs tend to have completely griefed default settings.There is no reason to have settings be this needlessly confusing, its both making it harder for cinephile boomers creating an even harder maze to navigate and it pisses off experts.
>>108939686They don't exactly 'advertise' these features. I had the chance to experience this myself via airbnb's.Otherwise,https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/bpjky4/worried_about_your_smart_tv_listening_in_simply/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25275350https://protonvpn.com/blog/smart-tv-privacy-riskhttps://archive.is/sLCUvAnd of course, since open wifis are common but not everywhere yet,https://venturebeat.com/technology/huawei-reportedly-plans-first-5g-8k-tv-to-one-up-samsung-and-appleAlso, some OSs force you to connect to be allowed to boot into them at all.
>>108939438...yes I know that's what fucking MiniLED is.I'm literally saying, instead of focusing on this RGB gimmick bullshit that actually makes things worse, FOCUS ON MAKING THE ALREADY MINILED SHIT BETTERGod what the fuck is your response even, some weird one-up attempt on an anonymous forum?
instead of white bloom you get colorful bloom instead. led is not the solution
>>108939643>>108939680Google TV is fine. I have an Apple TV anyway for better performance, but Google TV is probably the best built-on operating system. >>108939680You should have it connected and grabbing firmware updates. You can turn off all the data collection if it bothers you in the settings.
>>108939724>They also tend to not have FILMMAKER mode when it's a basic necessity in a landscape where TVs tend to have completely griefed default settings.Sony TVs have "professional mode" which is supposed to do the same thing as Filmmaker mode. And Sony is always praised for how cinematic their TVs look.
>>108942079Historically the TV OSs have often disabled or bypassed privacy setting changes. You should never connect it period. You can flash without letting it update over wifi if it bothers you, but there is never a moment where a firmware update is a good thing. Often it bricks shit or make things more jewish though. So congrats on being such a good goy.
>>108942118>but there is never a moment where a firmware update is a good thingThat is not true. It will occasionally add new features or improve performance. The LG G6 launched this year with some performance issues that a firmware update fixed.
>>108934899heh, nice TCL
>>108942136LG fucked up VRR and shit on their C series with a firmware update tho Not even sure if it's fixed
>>108938116>the quality that people expect from Sony TVsWhat quality?I had to return 3 consecutive sets.The first one because half the screen developed clusters of dead pixels after a few months.The second because it randomly dropped audio and would continuously show the channel/device HUD as if changing channels or active HDMI output. And thenSony sent a field tech to replace part of the hardware and they left a fucking scratch across the center of the screen that they initially didn't even want to acknowledge.Finally, the third because it STILL - DID - THE - EXACT - SAME - THING.I fought for a full reimbursement through the trader after that, and replaced Sony's pieces of shit with a Philips/TPVision replacement. Worked perfectly for 6 years on end, until the OLED panel in it started growing clusters of dead pixels. (Known issue with LG's panels of that generation.)Humorously, I found out that Sony at one point - 6 years; SIX FREAKIN' YEARS - after these problems were reported to them, and they were dismissed as couldn't-possibly-be-a-bug-in-our-software; had put out a firmware update for many of the sets on their AV2 Android TV platform - which fixed precisely the two problems with random audio drops and the random HUD flashes. The fucking putzes...
>>108939680>some OSs will be super naggyi.e. Google TV / Android TV, flashing "Finish setting up your TV" prompts every other time it comes out of suspended standby.
>>108934899Did they ban jewish influence in media?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVUTRz63-swOLED BURN-IN CUC_KS STATUS?
>>108939680fuuuccckkkwhich OS is the less niggerfaggotkike then
>>108935009mini led was always the future, oled was a stepping stone
>>108943105i hope you mean micro led
>>108943104Honestly, the best experience would to to buy an Apple TV and use that for all your streaming and not bother with the TV's own apps.
>>108943220I'm excited for MicroLED, but it's going to be much farther down the line. Interested to see if they could get QDEL working and available for consumers within the next several years. Seems like it could be an improvement over OLED, with potentially brighter screens and without the burn-in risks.
>>108939444>buy QD-OLED S90FS90F is absolute bliss for a TV but if you want a monitor don't go for QD-OLED, either wait or drop on WOLED Soon we'll have real RGB OLED
>>108943450too expensive thoughbeit
>>108934899What will be the biggest screen size available for the flagship series?
>>108943763It's a bit expensive. The highest end Roku device might be more reasonable. Those run well too, and while they do have ads on the menu, I don't find them intrusive at all.
>>108943481I have one. only 65" is QD-OLED, rest are WOLED
>>108943450>>108943763>>108943939SFF PC with a keyboard/gyro mouse remote. I do that and I'm happy.
>>108944072(me) the anon you reply to, how do you like the QD? Is fringing bad? I mean with WLOED you can get around with custom font rendering and rearrange pixels but not with QD.I use a WOLED as a monitor and I've been happy with it so-far but QD might be an option soon until LG and Samsung both bring out real RGB OLEDs, which they said they would this year. I don't even care that some QD are purple and not black in light, I sit mostly in a light controlled environment.
>>108943461Hate to break this to you, but they literally hit a dead end with making MicroLED viable for any kind of normal consumer displays.It's just not going to happen.
>>108944094I did a lot of research last December before buying one. According to my local autistic tv reviewers QD's are better than WOLEDS in almost any way. I'm not much of a tv nerd, this was probably the best tv for a buck in December 2025. I rarely use it since I work around the country for a long periods of time. The only downsides I have noticed are glossy screen, but that's S90F problem. There's also problem with that red/purple reflections in strong light during day, noticeable but not really a problem for me and my setup.
>>108944115all i want is a rolling-scan 1080p microled display... is that too hard to make?
>>108943481WOLED monitors have cpc(forced software vignetting)Some monitor models may let you turn it off but it's never tested for in reviews or clear if it can be turnes offOn TVs it can't be turned off in the service menu because they only allocated 2 bits in the settings bitfields for the feature and all 4 options just change the cpc strength without turning that piece of shit "feature" off
>>108934899>televisionDo goyim really?
I got the LG C5 instead of the S90F. Samsung seemed like a worse deal because of no Dolby Vision and worse color accuracy in HDR.
>>108938116>lower the prices without sacrificing the qualitysweet summer child
>>108943763>>108943450Rpi5 + Kodi
>>108943097Sir... let me say you ne thingOLE Ddo not burning in. I will tell you why. Software update has it solved kindly sir
>>108944901how did you master indian speak ?
>>108944210>>108944347Thanks. Good to know. I've tweaked my C4 42" as much as I can and right now I'm happy. I use it as a monitor.If burn in becomes a problem I was just looking for a stop-gap, but maybe we'll have proper RGB OLED then already, just wanting to cover all the bases. The S90F sounds tempting if I have to need it but QD OLED basically for me is just another tradeoff like WOLED, in the end they are both OLED but take the cons off one or the other.
