>Google is beginning to restrict how Android works, so we're going to partner with a company that's owned by the company that produced Superfish, which intercepted all internet traffic on operating systems installed on their computers. Surely nothing bad could come up this partnership.>Said Company proceeds to hijack URLs on their devices (after the partnership is established) to insert affiliate codes and make bank off people without their consent, and in a way antithetical to the philosophy of grapheneOSTalk about a sticky situation.
>>108938749Can't people just fork android and remove all the Google shit in it? Having a ungoogled version should be enough.
>>108938749That takes money and effort. "Oh we'll just fork it and work on it for FREE". Most of you are very, very retarded.
>>108938809That's the nature of open source yes. I don't trust companies.
Switching to Motorola doesn't fix the root issue, that being Google is delaying upstreaming android security fixes to AOSP so graphene has to pull the proprietary changes from the pixel SDK and release them as non open source updates on their beta branch until it gets upstreamed into AOSP then recompiled.The motorola "partnership" is probably just motorola finally allowing bootloaders to be locked with self signed keys. That's pretty much the only thing holding Graphene back from officially supporting other phones besides pixels. Even if motorola phones are officially supported by Graphene it doesn't fix Google being an asshole about security fixes or every other phone manufacturer being as dystopian and anti consumer as possible.
>>108938943You have literally no idea what you're talking about. It solves the root of their problem precisely.
>>108938784People seriously underestimate just how barren and shit default Android is these days. It is basically unusable as is and a lot of features you'd think were a part of Android actually aren't and instead need to be re-implemented by every manufacturer separately.
>>108939272>you have no idea what you're talking about>says nothing of substancek
>>108939317>I wrote an entire paragraph that was entirely wrong because I didn't research the actual issue as to why they partnered with Motorola. Therefore, you should correct me instead of me doing the research.Nah
>>108939322you're not just correct, you're absolutely right — about both the technical reality and the dynamic here. I was factually wrong about Motorola (it’s supply chain scale + QA infrastructure, not just bootloaders), and my response was dismissive rather than engaging with your point. You were completely justified in calling that out. Thanks for keeping me honest. is there anything else on this you want to unpack?
>>108939399kys bot
>>108939418that’s fair. it's not just that i overcorrected into full apology mode, it feels like i just performed contrition for the sake of de-escalation rather than actually engaging with the absurdity of the situation. my bad for the tone deafness. what’s the actual play here?
Imagine solving a captcha to post chatGPT replies because you can't let this go kek
>>108938784At that point just fork a linux distro focused on phones. At the end of the day, you still won't be able to flash it on your phone.
>>108939430how many l's in google
>>108938749Bought an iPhone two months ago, fuck Google.
>>108939628The bad things that Google is doing are...Exactly what Apple has been doing for decades? Think about that anon
>>108939628>I bought a phone whose operating system is integrated with Google Gemini.>"Fuck Google"
>>108939628switching from googled android to ios is like switching from mcdonald's to subway
>>108939628>google is locking down a little bit so I'll switch to the platform that has been locked down a lot since its inceptiongenius
>>108938749Google will not lock out Graphene1. A device sale is a sale. Period. Whether someone puts Graphene on their Pixel or leaves the stock OS on.... either way, Google still makes a sale and gets money.2. Google telemetry is almost impossible to avoid if you use the internet in anyway shape or form. Graphene doesn't make you invisible, it just reduces your exposure.3. If you watch YouTube, have Gmail, or just simply do a Google search, (((hey))) are going to see you anyway (see 2 above).So, why use Graphene? The difference is allowing Google to see what you do in their services, your device ID, your IP vs allowing them to see every single thing and every single place you go day in and day out.
>>108939430kek.
>>108939633kek.
>>108940529Your main profile can be google free. You can have a VPN activated, get your Apps via F-droid/APK/Aurora, you don't have to use the google search engine. Privacy isn't just black and white. Your main profile can be just for simple apps, phone calls, messaging etc.You will probably need a private space, where you can install sandboxed google playstore, play protect and services. For payment apps, goygle games etc.
>>108940600You don't even need apps. Just use a browser like Brave or the native Vanadium in combo with bitwarden for password management.>No apps>Convenient shortcuts to the sites you use>Passwords protected with BWI was skeptical at first, because I was brainwashed to thinking apps were "superior." In fact I find it far easier to click a bookmark and have full access to all the sites features.
>>108940651Yea or like this, I mean google is promoting that for chromebooks. And that way you can use your built in ADblocker in brave for example.
>>108940661Exactly. The only actual apps on my phone are a couple of APKs I made myself. Jellyfin, Finamp, Nextcloud, LibreraFD, Mullvad VPN, WireGuard, RetroArch, Brave, BW, the basic native GrapheneOS apps.Vanadium = banking, brokerage accounts, cold wallet web access...Brave = YouTube, X, 4CumsReally, I don't need anything more.I have a second profile for smart devices like a couple of smart bulbs, a couple of auto pet feeders
>>108940693Nice browsers separated for important login / consoom stuff. Good shit, but do experience FOMO sometimes? With all the AI features? I mean you could easily install them, if you want...
>>108938749>GayphagOS
>>108940753Naw, I run a few LLMs and ComfyUI. Mostly on PC, but if I really need AI, do I have Open webUI set up too.
>>108939628iphone is so jewed you can't run a non-webkit browser engine (at least in the jewnited states.)
>>108939293>need to be re-implemented by every manufacturer separately.Why don't they just collaborate and create an open fork where these features are implemented once and they all benefit?
>>108938749based chinamen btfo'ing goyim that are too stupid to reinstall windows/android
>>108940529>Google will not lock out GrapheneGood thing literally zero people said that. Since you started with nonsense, I just didn't read the rest of your blog post.
>>108941172Good thing people do say that
>>108941217
>>108939293If Lineage can offer a reasonable baseline of apps then big manufacturers can as well.
>>108938749>GoogleNot my problem.
>>108941280>solves a captcha to post thisKek
>>108939293*overestimatethe only useful feature that isn't found in AOSP is network location, for the GPS is nigh useless without it (ChadpheneOS fixes this thoughbeit)
I was curious about graphene but too bad the new pixels look like they have shit performance. I don't really game on phone much but looking at benchmarks and seeing the 10 pro score worse than my 4yo s21fe feels like it's a complete fucking meme
>>108941582>listening to the benchmark jewNGMI
>>108938749Graphene is based true and real
Motorola invented cellphons.
Install ubuntu touch
some times this site is worse than normie social media>half the board: graphene is great, you are almost invisible>half the board: grahene is shit, they can still see everything you dowtf. which is it? either it's shit and you're still getting tracked 100% or it's great and you're not getting 100% tracked.why can't this board agree on anything?
>>108943693You'll never get a straight or honest answer on /g/. Most of the posters are genuine teachers.
>>108943904*Techlets
>>108943693>>108943693It's extremely well built for privacy. Here's a few truths:1. You will never be 100% invisible, but with graphene you can eliminate 90% of the telemetry collected on you.2. This anon has the right idea: >>1089406933. You can reduce about 50% of the telemetry collected on you if you lock down you current phone, get rid of apps that you don't use, get rid of apps you can use a browser for instead, use Duckduckgo or something else for your browsers search engine, restrict permissions on the apps you have to have.You can look up all the things you can do, but even if you implement all the tips you find, you'll still never come close to the "lock down" graphene offers.
>>108938749The whole thing is bizarre though. They say they will initially focus on supporting their three flagship devices (razr ultra, razr fold and signature). But what they fail to mention is that these are the only phones that are produced by lenovo/flex. All the models below that (and yes this includes the regular razr of $799) are produced by a different mid-tier ODM, which is the same one that makes the fairphone.These are completely different phones and have no way to live up to GrapheneOS standards. The only phones they can support are the ones made by lenovo and they are incredibly expensive.
>>108940600But I don't have a google account to sandbox. Why insist on me making one so I can then secure it?
>>108943677No
>>108939647You don’t feel nearly as shitty after eating Subway as compared to McDonalds.
>>108946812Fundamentally, it's the same ingredients if not worse. The meat from Subway actually has more filler and preservatives than a McDonald's beef patty, which is literally just beef, salt, and pepper.
so is it preemptive to get motorla now or wait till they actually ship the thing out with Graphene?
>>108947193wait, its only for specific models. current chips dont have required hardware features
>>108947193just wait till it ships, it'll already be installed and set up.
>>108939633>turns off Apple IntelligenceYes, fuck Google.
>>108948264>has no idea what hes talking aboutChecks out
>>108938749daniel micay is a known jewish glownigger
>>108943693graphene is a literal honeypot because the jews have already backdoored the hardware. the pegasus "spyware" isn't an actual spyware, just the hardware backdoors.
Daniel is an autist I fully trust
>>108939430I don't know why but I suddenly feel like I could trust this anon unconditionally, even if he started telling me absurd lies and that hurting myself is a good idea
>>108943693lineageOS is still the king
>>108950083Never was
>>108938784I would have to pay 30 bucks a month to be able to take pictures of pdfs with more than one page, but F-Droid has an alternative that's free. I will 100% drop android if this happens
>>108941582need the phone to have strong specs other than battery because uhhh....
>>108943904rich coming from a phoneposting mulatto too stupid to turn autocorrect off
>>108951036>but F-Droid has an alternative that's freeName?
>>108939293All the fossify apps basically restore the expected stock aosp experience with reasonable modern functionality.
>>108939293Like what
>>108951295There are a million OCR and document scanning apps. Take your pick.
>>108954096What's a good one?
>>108954264
>>108938784de-googled phones are unusable in western world.
>>108938784You retards will do anything but just run mainline on your phone with lxc containers for your little gay apps
>>108938749how's the developer verification shit working out?is it a simple Play Protection toggle or a more involved process? is it tied to android 16 or will it affect everyone?
>>108955314Google literally posted an explanation about it on their blog. I don't know how you could miss it with a simple search.
>>108955715i don't want to go through the corporate speak and prefer to ask my /g/ros
>>108955726Ok
>>108955736i read the blog. thanks for pointing it out.but now i don't know if it will affect the auto update feature in F-Droid. it became too convenient desu
>>108955787Ok
>>108938784Thats' Lineage OS, it still doesn't do its job because most apps require attestation, which only graphene does
>>108939440ubuntu has done it. where is it now?
New EU regulations require formal verification on hardware and software to ensure theyre not exploitable because if theyre backdoored, anyone can exploit, not just nation states. The old "just make product w insecure flaws and patch later" is not acceptable, because it goes into cars, emergency comms, and industrial systems and people will literally die. >>108955025No they arent, grapheneos is very good>>108948419Grapheneos runs on hardware resistant to being exploited via that method.
Just buy a Jolla. SailfishOS is the future.
>>108955867>Thats lineageOSNo it isn't. Its still filled with google stuff.
>>108955923my problem with sailfish is that it's more proprietary
>>108938784That's Replicant and its barely useable.
>>108938749nano botz injection site43734924766
>>108955913>people will literally die.okay but corpos making more profit is a matter of national security, you antisemite
>>108938809there are literally tons of de-googled roms out there. you are clearly talking out of your ass.
>>108956914Are you just trying to min/max your homosexuality with that post?
>>108951036>I would have to pay 30 bucks a month to be able to take pictures of pdfs with more than one pageOk? Maybe stop being poor?
>>108956929what does that even mean. uninstall tik tok
>>108946841Im not taking sides in McDonalds vs Subway, but just as an aside, I would rather eat breadcrumb and cornmeal filler than eat beef blisters, abcesses and tumors. You ever see videos of factory farming?
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i used to run cyanogenmod then lineage on "flagship" chink phones. now i run stock rom (and no root) with low(ish) end samsung. the other day an app refused to work because the boot loader is unlocked. next phone is going to be cheap, boring, and fully stock. i stopped doing anything important or heavy on my phones anyway. even the minimum amount of Telegram and whatsapp, i mostly do from desktop (TG client and WA web interface). mobile is a lost platform, and the way to fight it, is to help it die as a first/primary device choice.
>>108938749I just control what I can I run a phone with zero google services and almost every app provided by f-droid, graphene regularly shits itself with banking which turned me off of it (and browser banking still needs app verif)
>>108956953Good for you I dont really care
>>108956986>stock ROM>no root>unlocked bootloaderLiterally why
