CDs are luxury items now - the UMC (upper middle class) have begun hoarding themyou WILL rent access for eternity
>>108940960Forget about the renting forever thing. I’ve stopped caring about the music that I’m listening to. It feels like water. Fuck this. I’m going back to aac 320kbps VBR ripping.
>>108940960i just wish there was a site that sold flac audio (i know bandcamp does but theres fuck all artists on there)
there are 1, 4, 5 cd players at marketsthinking about getting such device
>>108940960This is extremely dumbMost people never rewatch/relisten/replay the shit that they buy, so it's effectively the sameI don't really care if my streaming catalog gets nuked or the shelf with my discs burns, that's the least of my problems or concerns really
>>108940960This shit has to be rage bait.CDs are NOT required to keep your own music.A few HDDs replaces an entire shelf of CDs
>>108941129yes goy, spend thousands on hard drives that will fail in a few years losing all your data, while storing inferior versions of a music file. don't forget to tip spotify while you're at it
>>108941129>A few HDDs replaces an entire shelf of CDsI have 3 flight cases full of cd's, about 500 in total. I ripped them all to flac, it fits on 170GB. I have a copy on hard drive, but also one on my iphone and on an sd card on my tablet. I backup to external nvme. Also have some vinyl but thats more expensive than buying cd's.
>>108941129>A few HDDs replaces an entire shelf of CDsyeah and where do you BUY the music? seriously, there is nowhere with a catalogue as extensive as streaming platforms
>>108940960Just use the most basic bitch SD card if you want to be that cheap.
>>108941282Pirate it or rip it.Anything but the absolute newest music already has high quality sources you can pirate easily.If you seriously believe the Jews or whoever is forcing you to own nothing by discontinuing CDs there is no reason to engage with the market in good faith by buying music.
>>108940960>upper middle classDoesn't exist anymore. It is already gone. It is just working/professional class and ownership class (nouveau nobility).
>Not buying your albums on iTunesWagies are allergic to ownership
>>108940960heh
>>108940960>>108941129CDeez nuts
I thought everybody just downloaded it for free
>>108941038>>108941445neither sell NSBM thoughbeit
>>108941339im>>108941038i want to pay for my audio, but theres nowhere to do so, and i dont actually want to buy CDs because i hate having hoarded stuff
>>108942085>i want to pay for my audioBandcamp/hdtracks/quobuzIf it's not on there they literally aren't selling you the album, and don't get your money. Artists have to sell music for me to buy it. If it's 80s music or the person is dead just pirate. If you can pay for a new album, pay. Buy discographies on bandcamp for a bulk discount.Soulseek if you want to pirate, but there are other services too (squid.wtf, monochrome, stuff like that)
>>108942190nta, any recommendations for NSBM other than rutracker and linkspam on throwaway blogger accounts?
>>108940960Basedlennialif you want to own music just download it to your hard drive
I can carry all of your music in my pocket
>>108941667What if the CD you want isn't on the internet already? This is why I have spent hundreds of dollars on them this year. A few rare titles still elude me. But I rip everything I buy and share it with the world.
>>108941129my one 12 TB HDD can replace an entire room of CDs depending on the file format>>108941141>spend thousands on hard drives that will fail in a few years losing all your databackups. also one or two huge ass hard drives cost way less in the long run, plus you can use them for whatever else you want too if you dont actually think you'll fill up all the space with music>>108941339this https://fmhy.net/audio#audio-ripping https://fmhy.net/audio#audio-torrenting>>108941667someones gotta get it on the download sites though
>>108940960I already have all my physical media sorted including blu ray (movies)dvd (movies)PC CD (games applications)PC DVD pre steam, games OSs ApplicationXbox 360PSPPS1PS2WiiDSPC CDR.RWPC DVDR RWBlu Ray MCD (audio) About 500 key albums in addition to a large NAS MP3 librayI got all of it for fuck all when people were throwing it out as worthless. Possibly the only categories that are still like that are PC DVD pre steam key and Wii.If you are interested now you are way way way to late PS1/PS2/360/PSP are now collectors items, so are most boxsets and many movies, same for blu ray. I was never that interested in the CDs and only have the ones I have because I picked out the 400 I wanted and gave someone 40 bucks from a guy who had thousands he was getting rid of. While MP3s don't take up much space compared to video rips, 400 albums ripped at quality is still going to take up expensive HDD or SDD space and physical media has no electricty bill or raid drive cost,I don't know what to say to you guys, buy shit when it is cheap that you want not when it is full retail or it has become collecable.You are too late now, way way way to late. Except for stuff like PC DVD, things like win7 retail, win xp retail, games, applications etc. >>108941044Just make sure all your machines have optical drives and pick up a few DVD and blue ray players for peanuts when you see them, However again if you are getting into this now you are late, the time to buy stuff like bales of PS1 games was 2015 etc etc. >>108941101I use my media libraries quite often, look through the shelf and pull out a movie or a game and have a bit of fun for a few hours.Aside from win7, XP and office none of it needs activation bullshit either.I even have a small curated collection of 8 bit castette tape games floppy etcIt's amazes me that people want and spend 20 bucks on a DVD or 40 bucks on a game and when it's 10 cents they don't want it. You are LATE
>>108942333>>108942333>my one 12 TB HDD can replace an entire room of CDs depending on the file formatYeah sure I know that and my NASs have stuff that supliments the physical media, rips of stuff that's unobtanium that I like etc but frankly it's way more cost effecient to have video on physical media and way way more convenient to have PS1/360/PS2 etc as sold, just stick it in the machine as nature intended no fucking around. Not that it matters, it's way to late to get into it, collectors fucked by hoppy of picking this stuff up for nothing many many years ago and you will burn money trying to o it now, the whole point for me was that it was very funny to me to be able to buy shit like half the PS1, PS2/360 library and a movie entral store that at retail would have been a deposit on a house for the price of a clunker used car, People are wierd, when something costs nothing they don't want it, suddenly it becomes collectable and they pay a fortune for it. Is it nice to have? Yeah, fuck yeah, trust me it'[s fucking great but anyone who pays collectors prices is fucking retarded, it's not good value. It blows my mind that shit like old silent hills resident evils or whatever is worth so much now, no one fucking wanted it not long agao and were giving it away for free or 10 bucks for a stack.
>>108940960me on the left
>>108942682>Rod Stewart? Bryan Adams? The Backstreet Boys? Justin Timberlake? Coldplay? Count me in!
Why pay for music at all? Fucking retard.>inb4 shit qualitymost of my music collection is FLAC
>>108940960me on the right + RED accountrip WCD
>>108942695>Why pay for music at all? Fucking retard.See: >>108942315FLAC doesn't just magically come out of nowhere. Someone has to buy the source (or rip it from a streaming service)
>>108940960CDs are horribly inconvenient. It's much more convenient to just have terabytes worth of music on your computer.It's also terribly boring. Getting up, picking out a disk to listen to and putting it in is just part of the experience.
>>108942799>rip it from a streaming serviceThey don't provide lossless afaik
>>108942849Pretty much all of them do now. You can easily rip from Tidal without an account using this:https://mono.squid.wtf/https://monochrome.tf/
>>108941038Yeah Bandcamp is awesome.>>108941678Based
>>108942918These seem broken right now but there are other options:https://doubledouble.top/https://lucida.to/
>>108942937(((bandcamp))) might have been awesome until they booted Werewolf Records
>>108942974Qrd?
>>108942437>I already have all my physical media sorted including post pics
soulseek + picrel is all you need
>>108943545i'n not getting up to now, I have a hangover and have just eaten a large chicken burger and am drinking a large glass of iced coca cola and smoking a cig maybe anotherf time
>>108943756yum
>>108941391>(nouveau nobility).Oh hanks very much I never knew thousands of dvds and games bought for peanuts and such made me nobility. Thank you for the (you) peasant
>>108943784It was hice but by brain is killing me, jagermeister hits hard the morning after
>>108943804NTA but people think your privileged if you have a permanent living space that allows you to have more than a phone, laptop and bed.Of course the zoomers don't realize being rootless is a choice.
>>108943025the label and everything releated to Goatmoon and Satanic Warmaster got b& a few years ago
>>108943566just use your phone
>>108946271no
>>108941141>hard drives that will fail in a few years losing all your dataI've got an 80GB Seagate IDE HDD from 2003 that still works perfectly in 2026 (it's in my softmodded Xbox).
You own a flac version of an album just as much as someone owns a cd version of it
>>108946675From my autistic perspective those flacs are worthless if the person who ripped it from the CD didn't use the right software configured the right way, as I would have.
>>1089466753 2 1 rule, yes those are identical but its good to have multiple copies in different storage mediums.
Physical vinyl and digital piracy chads, we won.
>>108941282>yeah and where do you BUY the music?I buy cd's and vinyl of discogs > there is nowhere with a catalogue as extensive as streaming platformsthere's a lot of music on spotify, but not everything. There's a lot more on discogs..
Considering uploading my entire flac collection onto archive.org at some point>>108946724Also streaming doesn't always have the best mastered versions of albums. I am often buying CDs of albums I could download in some form but I'm chasing the version that sounds the best.
>>108942190>don't get your money. Artists have to sell music for me to buy it. If it's 80s music or the person is dead just piratefair enough honestly. also out of print cds even by current artists is just like seriously guys? and yeah if the dude is dead fair
>>108946716>3 2 1 ruleusecase?
>>108946820so you dont lose all your data if your house burns down
>>108946700It’s not like ripping DVDs, you literally can’t mess it up.
>>108946839DVDs are harder to mess up actually as long as they didn't do some retarded shit with the menu/title structure to try to fuck with pirates. If you do a normal burst mode rip you can't be sure you're going to get a 1:1 copy. It's the fastest way and it's what most software defaults to. This is the recommended setup for EAC:https://doujinstyle.com/eac/setup.htmlhttps://doujinstyle.com/eac/ripping.html
>>108946700explain what you do better and how that affects playback. I would assume that you would be making bin/cue from the cd for the most “autistic” purposes.
>>108946847DVDs are much harder because you don’t actually want the MKV unless you’re a retard, so there’s lots of re-encoding steps that can introduce multitudes of errors. You literally cannot mess up with EAC unless you forget to hit the metadata button.
>>108946857Only Russians subject people to wav/cue rips these days. The community has agreed that non-compliant cues and flacs with gaps appended to the end of the previous track is the way to go. It provides the convenience of having split tracks for playback while still allowing 1:1 copies to be burned to CD-R if someone wants to do that. It's something that's archival grade and convenient at the same time. Most burst mode rips probably sound fine even if there are minor errors and it's not a perfect rip but I'm not trying to waste my disk space on your half assed crap. Without a log showing what your software did I can't really trust it. Also if you used stupid settings I don't want to keep your rip unless it's something that's impossibly rare like some unmastered advance CD-R.>>108946858I don't bother with encoding any DVDs. I just keep the vobs.
Oh yeah what's up with cue anyway? why not just split the tracks? also why do some cue not open anything when the flac is already ripped?also thoughts on other audio formats like ape?
>>108946898By now anybody who has a clue splits the tracks. The Russians uploading their rips to rutracker don't always have a clue. If you aren't trying to join a private tracker and want to make those rips actually usable cuetools can split the tracks for you and also verify them against other people's rips from their database and accuraterip's as well. It's only the private tracker standards that insist it's ripped with exact settings. They will split hairs about stuff like accurate gap detection but even if you split the tracks with it cuetools should be able to make a non-compliant cue for them based on the TOC of the discs in their database. If it says it's fine it probably is.
>>108946898>also thoughts on other audio formats like ape?If it's lossless just convert it to FLAC, ez. One exception for an alternative being actually useful is wavpack's ability to compress DSD audio which will help you if you're storing bloated SACD rips. Or ALAC if you're an iToddler.
cant you just use dd to rip exact copies of cds and dvds?
>>108946937DVDs are encrypted so you want to properly decrypt them during the process. I never tried dd on a CD but I'd bet it would be a pain in the ass to deal with the resulting file compared to what you get from using the actual tools made for the job. It would be interesting if something like that could be made for some kind of raw extraction of data from discs that used copy protection that purposely damaged the TOC or whatever.
>>108941141cds bitrot, by the way
>>108946912I honestly don't care about it too much since I usually listen to albums start to finish or not at all but yeah I've always thought it was a bit weird. I was in some private tracker for music but the upload ratio rules were impossible to actually upload anything since my upload speed was only 50mbps>>108946921nah I don't bother converting because mpv just opens it no issues
I do get the arguments for physical media, that having a process or friction makes it more enjoyable. Physically having to choose it, take it out of the case, put it into the machine, etc. etc. But man, I lack space and self hosting a server is pretty fun too.
>>108940960no they arent dcs are trash current SSDs/HDs are better
>>108947036All mine are in a box I keep under my bed after I rip them.
>>108941038Itunes sells lossless. Almost everything in apple music is sold in the itunes store. Just convert to flac or find a player thats supports aiff.
Idk man, I just pay for YT premium for family plan and I use YT music. Not sure why some of you have to be so autistic when you can't tell the fucking difference between 256kbs AAC and a flac file that warrants digital hoarding.
>>108947036how do you self host? do you point to the net or just local host? I was considering opening up my jellyfin server so I can watch remotely
>>108947106Nta. Register a domain and expose your service to the net (with adequate hardening and auth parameters). Cloudflare makes it pretty simple.
>>108947105If you cant hear the difference thats a you problem. You may want to get your ears checked.
>>108947105I collect lossless files and it's not about hearing any kind of difference. It's about archiving the best quality copy. It's not expensive to keep this stuff on hard drives. Mobile storage is at more of a premium so I encode lossy files to store on my phone. I suspect and hope it won't be like this forever though and that one day 2TB on my phone will be no big deal.
>>108947124My ENT told me that I have superhuman hearing the last time I went in and I’m here to tell you that FLAC is placebo bullshit, you can’t tell the difference. That being said, I rip to FLAC as well since music takes up essentially 0 space compared to video.
>Be me>Based Compressed audio enjoyer>Goes to live concert>Doesn't understand why the band tries so hard>Think they should just play the 192kbps mp3 cuz studio production is better than live>Human hearing cant even tell the difference between live music and compressed mp3 anyway
>>108940960Cassette is the way of the future.
>>108947117oh I do have a domain name, but I don't know how to host it. I'd prefer it just point to my IP address
>>108947106I just do it locally, my upload is pretty garbage so I've not looked into making it accessible outside my house. If I did I'd probably use a tail scale or whatever service to vpn into my own network and do it that way.
>>108941141I keep both just in case, rip the CDs that I buy and burn the flacs that I download
you guys have any tips on storing your discs?I'm noticing the last like 4 of my CDs I've put in my drive get stuck trying to rip the last track.
>>108949126Are you using EAC and ripping in secure mode? It takes longer but if you follow the guide from here:https://doujinstyle.com/eac/setup.htmlhttps://doujinstyle.com/eac/ripping.htmlJust let it chew through the errors and keep trying until it gets a successful read. I have sometimes left discs to do this overnight while I was sleeping. Other than that trying different drives can help. But if you absolutely cannot get a 100% good read from a disc using EAC and all else fails if the errors are minor enough cuetools can repair your rip using the parity data from their database.
>>108947124I have no issue. Some of you fags want to listen to FLAC music with 20 dollaroo headphones and claim you can tell the difference, seen too many posers like this. Same goes for the fags that say they can hear the diff between 320kbps mp3 and flac, it's not true. Next on the list is hoarders not even listening to their music which is very sad. They have like what terabytes of HDDs filled with music and it's 100% they haven't listened to a quarter of their shitty collection of so called "music". Imagine paying hundreds of dollars up front and cost you more in the long run than getting a shitty subscription.>inb4 I do it for preservingNo, you do it because you grew up poor.
>>108949179I download everything that seems interesting to me in FLAC. I go through it when I'm bored. I permaseed it all on private trackers and share everything on Soulseek. I also keep it all in opus format on my phone. Why keep/share FLAC? Preservation is only part of it. I don't want to force a codec on someone else. If you have a FLAC file you can encode mp3, AAC, opus, ALAC, or whatever else you want/need. The codec and bitrate is your choice to make, not mine. It's pointless to argue about but any time it comes up on /g/ a holy war ensues and other posters will insist you are going to hell for not using their codec of choice.
>>108949167Yes, thanks. I'm using a BU40N and another LG drive that's basically a BU40N. EAC is mostly set up correctly. I'll check the other settings when this is done.I'm curious if there's a best way to store them because the last track always being an issue sounds like the beginning of disc rot. Since that may be the case I'm ripping most of what I have with intent to burn copies.I did set up my write offset for that too.Just surprised it's taking so long when a burst mode rip takes like 10 minutes and gets all the CRCs the same except the last track.On that note, how do I go about repairing an error with CUETools? I tried to get into that but I haven't used it before.
>>108949256I don't store my discs in any special way and thankfully I only encountered one so far that my drives weren't able to properly read. It was able to be repaired.After you verify with cuetools if it looks something like my rip here select encode, with repair in the dropdown menu, and tracks/lossless.
>>108949179But their $20 chinesium headphones are good as thousand dollar headphones sold in America, believe me bro, 4real
>>108949367We get it. You didn't buy hard drives when they were cheap. No need to cry because of those of us that did.
Being a pirate still requires you to be tethered to your desktop PC and keep everything protected and backed up. The “PC master race” keeps inventing brand new copes for whatever convoluted pirating methods they come up with. I buy a disc at the store and put it in the player and press the button. I don’t need foobar2000 with soulseek and dbpoweramp. It’s just as exhausting as using a smartphone for everything.
>>108949304So hey, weird question.Do you have this box checked?I'm still ripping the one disc, but I was reading and it sounds like I shouldn't have this on.>Check "Overread Lead-In and Lead-Out" only if the test result says that your drive can overread from both the Lead-In and Lead-Out, or if it says Lead-Out and your offset correction is positive, or if it says Lead-In and your offset correction is negative. Otherwise disable (uncheck) it.Both of mine can overread lead-in but the read offset is +6... I wonder if this is why the last track keeps taking forever, it's trying to read the lead-out/past the lead-out and can't.
