This coming week, Nvidia will reveal it's first ever consumer grade CPUs and APUs
>>108944338theyre a graphics card company why would they go into cpus
>>108944338what for? 99% of their revenue comes from ai slop datecenters
>>108944358They've been making CPUs for servers for years you dummy. >Why would they profit even more per device sold to consumers
>>108944338Still ARM, right? Meh.
>>108944363Yes, ARM.
That looks like an AI image from late 2022. Stable Diffusion 1.4 era. Good nostalgic times.
>>108944375It is. I just googled Nvidia evil since idc about choosing a pic
>>108944338>>108944363>>108944366Can anyone tell me what the ARM dicksucking is always about? Like, if I just want raw compute performance, it seems like Intel and AMD are still doing quite fine.People always seem to bring up energy efficiency, but unless things have changed a ton over the past couple of years, when I was looking at the hyped-up Ampere servers, it seemed like in virtually every real-world highly-parallelized scenario, the machines ended up consuming more power than the comparable Intel/AMD systems because of how much longer it'd spent on compute.
>>108944414What dicksucking? I'm just saying Nvidia has been making server CPUs for years on ARM and is going to announce their consumer grade stuff the coming week
>>108944338>>108944366Is that why my ARM stonks suddenly went up?
>>108944358Intel was a CPU company and they tried going into GPUs with Arc. This is probably going to go about as well.
>>108944445Probably>>108944458Nvidia has been making CPUs FOR YEARS! Why don't you people listen?
>>108944414I've been impressed how powerful my Android phone can be while using tiny amounts of power when it isn't doing much. I'd be interested in an ARM laptop if there were options that didn't suck. I can't see a reason I'd want an ARM desktop or server though.
>>108944338>first ever consumer grade CPUs and APUsWhat do you think powered the first Xiaomi Mi Pad tablet, the Ouya console, the Shield console, and the freaking Nintendo Switch?
Has Nvidia done anything since CUDA?I want to doubt their engineering chops
>>108944338
>>108944764For personal computing, not toys
>>108944338>ARM>locked down BIOS >locked down platform No thanks.
>>108944818You have nothing to choose
>>108944358full AMD humiliation
>>108944833Novideo is increasingly irrelevant without proper Linux support. AMD mogs them because of this.
>>108944825I have AMD/Intel, you're the one who has nothing to choose just more arm cuck shit where you have to beg the manufacturer to pretty please unlock the BIOS so you can finally install a non cucked OS
>>108944338NVidia doesn't make things for consuemers anymore though. They're B2B.
>>108944358>why do you want to control the market?anon, nvidia wanted to buy arm, they couldn't. And they have no rights to build x86. If Nvidia gets to build CPU and GPU, it's total domination. They could easily get into RAM/Storage/Mainboards/PSUs, but the hard part is CPU and GPU.
>>108944487Modern Apple CPUs have been very good in my experience. A lot of the sharp edges have been ground down regarding compatibility and hacky workarounds. I can start my day at 100% battery with my MBP and compile, build images etc for 7 hours straight (agentic AI so 3-5x in parallel) and still have 30-40% left. It’s insane how efficient they are
>>108944358ai inference
>>10894486590% of the Nvidia cards are being used to train LLMs on Ubuntu nowadays their drivers just werk. Stop parroting shit you have no clue about anon
>>108944338>CPU - Central Processing Unit>APU - Additional Processing Unit?Did I guess right?
>>108945882L2g
windows + arm will never take off. windows exists because people want near 100% compatibility with legacy software. people will migrate to linux before they go to windows on arm
>>108944487Because the less power your desktop draws, the more power we have for AI datacenters. Won't you think of the shareholders?
>>108944825Except computers that are literally tossed in the garbage.
Pay up paypiggies
https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-PC-era-Lenovo-laptop-leak-unveils-first-Nvidia-N1X-notebooks-and-high-prices.1311489.0.html>The retailer leaks come from Eastern Europe and each describes a 15.3-inch Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 workstation with a 165Hz WQXGA OLED touchscreen, up to 64GB RAM, a 1TB PCIe SSD, and Windows 11 Home.>The most interesting part is, of course, the reference to two or possibly three Nvidia N1(X) models.>The likely top configuration based on an Nvidia N1X 675 is listed at the equivalent of €4,049, with 64GB RAM also included.>A slightly cheaper version with an Nvidia N1X 650 APU and 32GB RAM comes in at €3,199.
>>108944338>consumer grade CPUsBoy do amd and intel look stupid not offering consumer "cuda".
so if you get an nvidia cpu will it come with gpu like amd has their G series like 3500G
>>108944338I just don't see why this particular ARM-powered would be any different than the last four times it was tried. It's always going to fail because unlike in the land of Apple, you can't just tell Windows customers to abandon incompatible software.
>>108947013Nvidia have the brand recognition (ewwwww who's Qualcomm!?!? Nvidia!!! POG BASED) and have the market by the balls enough to put their chips everywhere to the extent that it will be hard NOT to buy a Nvidia powered computer in the next year.
https://x.com/NVIDIAGeForce/status/2060390710759612662NVIDIA WON
Having an integrated CPU GPU design also allows Nvidia to compete against AMD in the console space. But that is so far into the future and the margins so shit i doubt nothing will come of it.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-tw/gtc/taipei/keynote/WE ARE SO BACK TOMORROW
>>108946454Nobody will buy this unless it can be used for crypto farming or ai slop in which case it will be bought by datacenters.
no matter how good the CPU is, you're still dependent on Windows 11 on ARM aka DOGSHIT
>>108944833>full AMD humiliationno it's not, AMD and Nvidia CEOs are family.
>>108947123>He brings the vision. He brings the energy. And this time, he's bringing it to Taipei.
>>108944865Nvidia has been pushing into the Linus market as well, if people are abandooning windows theres no reason for them to only support windows
>>108944414It's because ARM locks you into non ownership, x86 lets you boot whatever you want, not ARM+ finding an actual instruction manual for the asm intructions is impossible or its going to be as unhelpfully unnecessarily verbose as the Intel one+ AT&T syntax that would give Dr. Ivo Robotnik a run for his money in terms of how dystopian it isThis gives an advantage for the WEF corrupt corporats
>>108947314>It's because ARM locks you into non ownership, x86 lets you boot whatever you want, not ARMbut you can install linux on m chips
>>108944375sd 1.4 can't into text
>>108944414arm already outperforms every consumer intel/amd processor
>>108947341can you install linux on an nvidia gpu? no because it's locked down like this new platforms will be
>>108944360Kill the competition and make everything 100x more expensive.
>>108945399>>108944358yeah you need a CPU to coordinate all the GPUs and they want it purpose built for AI
>>108947955Nvidia can apply classic leverage such as 'want to keep making servers for AI, and having our cards? Wind down your usage of AMD and Intel chips"
>>108947191>crypto farmingNo one farms crypto with this shit anymore you fucking retard Lmao
>>108946454LMAO fucking pathetic
>>108944358They have fuck you money right now, they can do whatever they want.
>>108947949nvidia dgx spark runs linux
>>108944338I am pretty sure the Nvidia Tegra chips that went into assorted Android tablets, Windows RT machines, Nvidia Shield, Switch 1 & 2, all count as consumer CPUs/APUs. Anyhows, the chips Nvidia is releasing soon don't seem all that exciting. The NX1 chip is just a rebadged version of the GB10 that is in those Nvidia Spark DGX mini PCs; unless you are are ass-deep in Cuda the performance they offer is not particularly special. The N1 is cut down to about half on the CPU side, and down to 5050 level on the iGPU. And will perform worse, considering the lower memory bandwidth & power limitations. Now, if these showed up in laptops that were cheaper than those with similar level discrete cards, maybe they would be worth considering, but knowing Nvidia these machine will suffer the same issue that Strix Halo does and cost a lot more, limiting their appeal to just local AI stuff at best.
>>108944338If they keyword "AI" is anywhere in their marketing I couldn't care less.
>>108944479Intel has been making GPUs for decades
>>108944865>Novideo is increasingly irrelevant without proper Linux support.nigger dgx spark is an ubuntu linux system
>>108946200No. Unused power is wasted power.
ARM slop lmao
You'll need a little cpu brace and there's a chance the thing might commit sudoku at any time, also it can only run vibe coded\sukhdeep made programs, now that's novidia quality
>>108944358GPUs started using onboard cpus a while ago, the 900 series I think
>>108948496>fuck you money You mean afrimerican tax payer money, derp
>>108951639The difference seems to be massive amounts of unified memory like the Apple M chipsets. Tons of VRAM and no MacOS means good performance for vidyagames. Thats about it. CPU doesn't seem to have more benefits over whatever intel is trying to cook up with panther lake.
>>108944338So are we talking X86-64 or Snapdragon competitors? The GeForceBook sounds like a plausible outcome here.>>108954019If they can do something different and break this set mould that AMD/Intel seem to have I'd be happy. Something like massive amounts of L1/2/3 cache would be a good departure.
>>108947949>can you install linux on an nvidia gpu?Yes.
Well, this is the end of graphics cards as a discrete productRIPwe had a good run
>>108955450two more weeks, sister
>>108944358GPUs are made of tiny CPUs.
If you can’t name a price you don’t have a product.
Is it up yet?
>>108944338>>108955748>>108955791this is nvidias half assed attempt at ryzen ai max.
>>108955748someone posted some screens in some thread the laptops were starting at 4.8k euros
Individual consumer doesn't matter anymore.
>>108954019Even for games they run into the issue of having less memory bandwidth than discrete cards with the same amount of hardware, and that is before any x86 to ARM translation issues. >>108954531These processors are using standard ARM x925 and x725 cores, which are decent enough but not mold breaking.
>>108955450No it wasn't a good run, it fucking sucked from beginning to end.
