>white
>working
>not debian stable

>>108945121
>Don't name forks or other meme distros
Debian then. And you broke your own rule.

fedora is a meme fork of RHEL

>>108945121
I'm not a normal cattle NPC or a faggot or a woman or a retard. So, neither.
I use a real Linux distro.
Being a straight white man with an IQ over 120, I only use Void.

>>108945149
>>108945157
Debian is fine, thought about it a lot, but most shit actually build against ubuntu, I know those deb packages technically work, but before ROCm mentioned Debian in their Docs, it was always a pain.

>>108945236
I respect void, but it's slightly estrogen coded, just like nix. Those are the "I'm not like other girls" distros. Also, I just want normal, white, man defaults. I'm systemdmaxxing and I use wayland.

>>108945121
Fedora if you want to beta test for IBM without compensation.
Ubuntu if you want to alpha test for Rust trannies without compensation.

>>108945271
avoiding a distro just because x y z group also uses it is the least employed thing in existence

>>108945470
"men" practicing tribalistic womanthink and pretending they're manlier for it

>>108945470
I just want to grab my debs and rpms and move on.

File: 1779975514888958.jpg (83 KB, 750x932)

83 KB JPG

>>108945271
Kubuntu, it offers a snapless install option.

>>108945121
Fedora is the only choice. Canonical enterprise support is a meme while every serious shop has a RHEL contract, and Fedora directly benefits from that.

>>108945484
Retard see >>108945236
>I'm not a normal cattle NPC or a faggot or a woman or a retard.
And then says he uses void, I knew some niggers would join this thread to recommend their unique glow free distro.

I don't care about "manly" distros. I just want a normal distro, with a normal package manager, with a normal init system that we agreed on 10 years ago. That is compatible with most software, that isn't repackaged by some troons. If a company supports Linux, they most likely offer a deb and/or rpm.

>>108945121
fedora
if you identify as a women you can use arch, void, debian or some other useless for desktop distro

>debian
>useless
NEET-kun...

>>108945552
debian is useless on desktop. only neets run debian on servers btw. it's always rhel, ubuntu server and or proxmox on servers for companies.

>>108945562
What about companies that cannot afford rhel? Do they just use rhel clones or go back to good ol debian?

>>108945547
>arch and debian are useless on desktop
tf are you smoking

>>108945574
>What about companies that cannot afford rhel?
ubuntu server
>>108945577
see >>108945562
arch has the aur which you shouldn't use so you might as well use fedora.

>>108945584
?? nobody forces you to use the aur
this board is retarded

>>108945562
Google used to run a Ubuntu LTS on internal desktops. They had a custom version called Goobuntu but it was 90% sock Ubuntu LTS

>arch has the aur which you shouldn't use so you might as well use fedora.
>but muh tilin...
>but muh minimalis...
neet. nothing to it.
>>108945601
might as well use fedora then.

>>108945605
a company i worked at had only windows servers for everything. one year in i found out that the networking guys had a single linux server running ubuntu desktop with some networking monitoring tool with a webui.

crazy how fedora and ubuntu are part of /g/ now. "old" /g/ would clown on people running those distros. /g/entoo and arch. Luke smith? save us.

>>108945632
one is unemployable and the other guy works in retail...

>>108945584
>ubuntu server
Honestly, why? Why not debian? Why ubuntu over debian? Isn't debian stable the ultimate free server distro? Why ubuntu? I mean I get the rhel thing for the enterprise support.

>>108945645
no warranty. no support. 10 years of security updates. i think they even extended support for ubutnu 16.04 for some companies. like why would a company buy anything without a warranty when they can get something with a warranty and support?

>>108945645
you can get enterprise support for ubuntu server

>>108945645
>>108945659
there also exist third parties who help with security and other stuff for ubuntu server that you can pay to help you with or migrate some stuff etc.

>>108945659
>>108945664
I always avoided ubuntu because of *le snaps* and I don't want to be called a faggot on /g/. But this is eye opening.

>>108945671
>>108945632
>>108945641
they love some guy with is unemployed and the other guy works in retail...
/g/ is always wrong

Fedora
>newer packages
>SElinux
>Shios stuff vanilla
>dnf5 is fantastic

>>108945681
*who

>>108945671
the more you know

https://ubuntu.com/pro

File: file.png (15 KB, 667x148)

15 KB PNG

>>108945686
i use it on two servers because you can get it for free for personal use (still upgrade every release)

File: tux_paradise.png (890 KB, 853x1137)

890 KB PNG

Thanks, /g/ents. So the consensus is:
>Ubuntu Server
>Fedora Desktop
???

>>108945758
you can get rhel for free too but it is a bit more involved

>>108945758
If you're not paying for it then you might as well go Rocky (formerly Centos) for your server for the full free RH experience

File: 1778711889760651.jpg (106 KB, 879x1280)

106 KB JPG

>>108945641
>muh employment
You've been brainwashed by (((them))) to believe success is sucking some jewish dick to get some shekels. And the right choice is whatever Jewstein & co uses based on their DEI and israel investment measures.
>inb4 NEET
you're just proving my point

>>108945537
Naw

>>108945849
>DE is subjective. Don't name forks or other meme distros. White, working anons, which one?
leave the thread illiterate anon

File: 1769193258174980.jpg (229 KB, 533x800)

229 KB JPG

>>108945857
You talk about DE, so you want it for desktop, so other "enterprise" shit matters not for you. Be aware that they both follow soulless corporations that will jump in any new bandwagon, especially fedora because it's literally the testing branch for RHEL. Last update ubuntu added some not fully tested rust utils in place of the holy gnu utils, while fedora will always put the latest redhat experiment in their distros.

If you want something to set and forget, there's nothing like debian stable, for desktop or for server, if you want something newer you can use ubuntu, but like I said be aware of canonical's faggotry, and debian is more about creating a snapshot of a fully tested, secure, and working system that can never break. If you want updates go for arch or install gentoo (unironically, it's good).

then you can get your le white man distro.

>it's another schizo

>>108945121
Ubuntu
>Snaps
>Canonical retard decisions every few years
>Works out of the box better
>Slightly slower to update
Vs
>You're the beta tester for RHEL
>Needs some massaging of codecs and repos
>Ultimately cleaner
>Updates almost as frequent as arch

I've used both relatively recently and moved from Ubuntu to Fedora and happy I did it. But honestly I'm considering a move to Bazzite because I want something even more retard proof since I only really use my desktop for gaming and casual browsan

>>108945922
Found the NPC

>>108945185
Other way around.

File: 90d.gif (6 KB, 329x302)

6 KB GIF

>>108945933
I'm just burnt out and midwit at best tbqh

>>108945922
I just hate that Signal Desktop for example is only packaged for deb based distros on their official site. And this is often the case for many packages. If it supports Linux, there is a .deb for it.

I like Fedora, the codec fuckery is a bit annoying, but enabling rpmfusion isn't hard. I just hate that they default to btrfs without using a proper rollback method ootb, so I can see why you are interested in bazzite, but again... A fork or in that case an image/build script, I want to have a minimal supply chain and bare bones Fedora atomic is shit to setup.

>>108945895
I respect Debian, but I prefer when a distro comes with a firewall, secure boot, apparmor/selinux by default.

>>108945999
Yeah overall I think Fedoras downsides are super minimal but I think that Bazzite (and Bluefin/the ublue distros) take just enough liberty to make the immutable versions nice to use out of the box

You can also use their tooling and roll your own pretty easy, from what I understand (haven't done a lot of digging though)

>>108945121
Between the two, I had far fewer problems with Fedora. Of dozens of distros over two decades, I've had the fewest with CachyOS.

>>108946017
Firewall, fair enough. But Debian has Secure Boot and AppArmor by default. And if you want Fedora's firewall, just

apt install firewall-config firewalld

>>108945999
>enabling rpmfusion isn't hard
True, but running COPRs or trying to make Terra not conflict with RPMFusion kind of sucks.
>>108945895
>there's nothing like debian stable, for desktop or for server
True, but Sid is also nice for desktop if you know what you're doing. Although random packages being out of date on Sid is annoying.

File: 1774514095303495.jpg (169 KB, 710x540)

169 KB JPG

>>108945632
Old /g/ also constantly ragged on the Arch and Gentoo enthusiasts.

>>108945121
Ubuntu LTS.
Even tho I like it, Fedora always gives me quirks for some reason. Whereas Ubuntu works flawlessly no matter my hardware.

>>108945645
It's not about "what's best" it's about "warranty". With Canonical you get warranty of support by paying for it which is more important than actually working.

>>108946339
kek, do you have more old g stuff?

>>108945121
fedora KDE, anything based on dpkg is just pain and non-flavored ubuntu is especially bad
>>108945149
>debian on the desktop
pain and misery

>>108945381
>IBM
>Rust trannies
arent those the same thing?
https://www.redhat.com/en/ibm

File: 1758785891205593.mp4 (2.7 MB, 640x480)

2.7 MB MP4

>>108945121
easily fedora
>no snap bullshit
>adopts new good features while mostly avoiding slop (rustutils, shit like that)
>fairly secure out of the box (selinux,firewall,rootless containers on podman/toolbox,immutable versions that just werk)
>most of the ubuntu ecosystem is focused on the 24-mont-releases where's fedora mostly revolves around the 6-month-releases, quicker new packages
>plasma desktop as a flagship and not a secondary 'flavor' or 'spin' like ubuntu
>dnf mogs apt
>kernels and sometimes the desktop gets updated even inside the 6m window

the only reason i'd consider running ubuntu (maybe as a multi-boot setup) is its better supported in some places , in some programs/SDKs/things where there's barely any linux-related instructions if they support one distro its typically ubuntu and that still has momentum as the 'default' distro but almost anything that has instructions for more than one distro also supports fedora+arch. also on any fedora install you can just run

toolbox create --distro ubuntu --release 24.04

and you have an ubuntu shell for running shit that requires ubuntu

>>108945121
>White, working anons,
can we stop with this shit? go back to /pol/ if you're gonna be shoving your race bait garbage into threads. Anyway the answer is Ubuntu if you just want it to work OOTB and Fedora if you want a generally better experience at the cost of having to install things like Codecs and drivers manually

File: 1777852727868896.jpg (37 KB, 681x654)

37 KB JPG

>>108945121
Ubuntu with LxQt is peak.

I like the Fedora ecosystem, but I also like the longterm support of Ubuntu... If only we could have the best of both... Oh wait, RHEL (Alma) exists

>>108945777
qrd?

>>108953388
you create a rhel linux dev account
download the iso (offline or online iso)
flash the usb
install rhel
register the system to your account
you have now to renew the "trial" every year