You gotta admit, he seemed a lot less evil than the current batch of tech CEOs, right?
>>108945307unironically a good example of a based retard
>>108945307Remember him as just a guy selling overpriced shit to dumb rich people, 0 evil vibes.
He wasn't a bad guyJust an asshole who knew what people didn't know they wanted, even if he wasn't the first
>>108945307>>108945310>>108945319>>108945344/g/ is officially dead and fully colonized by newfags if we are retconning Steve Jobs anything but Satan incarnate.
>>108945307It was an evil piece of shit, but not a retarded moron like current ones.
>>108945357Again he was an asshole but I never got the idea he was out to make the world worse like Thiel/Musk/Ellison/etc
>>108945378Then you're just stupid.
>>108945383Can you explain what he did that was so bad then?
>>108945357he was an artist (art of business)
he mostly was personally despicable in his private conduct and he was the closed ecosystem guy when billy boy was the herald of cheap chinese ibm clones ... how times change... we, unironically need a guy like young gates again.
>>108945378Nah that is right. Jobs actually had ideas and standards and he made sure to follow through with them.It was after Tim Cook took over that Apple gave up on all the standards, and he turned the company into a simple money printing machine.
>>108945388https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation
>>108945388Steve Jobs walked so the modern tech oligarchy could run. He is the reason you own nothing and are not happy.>You don't own your music, Apple does.>You don't own your computer, Apple does.>You don't own your cell phone, Apple does.>You don't own your files, they're in iCloud now, Apple does.
>>108945388https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Apple_(2012)
>>108945430yeah, jobs certainly didn't figure out the money printing thing for most of his career. he's def. overrated as a ceo.
>>108945388You're joking right?
>>108945437>You don't own your music, Apple does.Yep.>You don't own your computer, Apple does.Not at all. And a lot less so than Microsoft owns your Windows machine.>You don't own your cell phone, Apple does.Nope. They do own the app ecosystem, however. Except in Europe.>You don't own your files, they're in iCloud now, Apple does.Only if you want them there. And let's not forget Android was first here; intending for all the data on your phone to be in the cloud while Apple had iTunes as their tethered backup option.
>>108945457mostly how he treated his daughter and her mom.for the actual evul, he's pretty low tier.His you vill own nothing shtick pretty much killed old apple and his career until he got lucky with mp3 players.
>>108945442nope, it's jack welch who's overrated. short-term shareholder value is retarded.
>>108945462Ok so you're actually just an iToddler then.
>>108945473if he had the idea to make itunes and ipods, he wouldn't have needed to acquire apple. it's not clear if GE/Apple would've just been a dud, had he acquired it in the 90s.
>>108945466>His you vill own nothing shtick pretty much killed old apple and his career until he got lucky with mp3 players.??jobs become a billionaire in 1995 -- long before any mp3 player
why does this nigga make people so angryi'd take 100 steves over 1 elon
>>108945505O.K.? and? nexxt was shit and apple was also shit at that time.
>>108945518Why?
>>108945307This faggot single-handedly destroyed the internet. It subsequently destroyed society. He did Satan's job. Remember, his first Mac cost 666 dollars. The symbol is a bitten apple, like the one Eve bit. He died young from aids after his contract with Satan expired.
>>108945519bullshit.John Carmack wrote Doom on NeXT, and claimed that NeXTStep made development ten times faster.compare NeXT to unix shit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhfB-NICzg
>>108945533higher ranking member in the epstein class
>>108945582ai makes development a million times faster, why didn't steve "die from aids" jobs invent ai?
>>108945718??but jobs was obsessed with siri before his death
Old CEOs kept their weird shit in their own families. See Jobs and Gates. New CEOs want you to believe they are soulful great people behind closed doors who would never anally penetrate their sisters while telling you all the weird creepy shit they do publicly like destroy everything.
>>108945357>if we are retconning Steve Jobs anything but Satan incarnate.Because his competition is Bill Gates
>>108945307we would have skipped over the shitty flat design era if he had survived
>>108945770There can be two Satan incarnates.
>>108945742>Old CEOs kept their weird shit in their own families. See Jobs and Gates.??are we reading the same epstein files?
>>108945378no, just creating and marketing the exact tool by which those people abuse others
>>108945357ask me how i know you never ssh'd into your ipod at age 8
>>108945378jobs was friends with ellison. epstein class are all the same.
>>108945880What did they call the process that allows you to do that? It was like... freedom preserving, or something.
>>108945307he only made it more easier for normies to use computers, that's what made fa/g/s angry. Like a world wide eternal September.
>>108945924??you do know how much macs cost -- macs are outpricing most people
>>108945851He kept it in the family.
>>108945307Tech CEOs were properly respected during the era of western monoculture. Jobs died right before our current atomized culture, and years before the third world flooded onto the internet, making any type of universal discussion or respect impossible.
What's your favorite Jobs story?Mine is how he bought some historical/colonial home on the promise to the original owner that'd he'd renovate it back to it's original glory. Instead, he went and bulldozed it into the ground to build something completely new. Then he just gave up on the project and left a smoldering hole where the home once stood.
>>108945414Steve Jobs would refuse to shower and when people told him he smelled, he would explain why they were wrong.
>>108945307He created the iphone that literally ruined the world.
>>108945851>from Jeffrey>to Jeffrey Huh?
maybe less evil, but certainly less pajeety
>>108945389he was an artist (con artist)
>>108945357Steve Jobs and Walt Disney both had fundamentally evil ideology which was kept in check by innate paternalism. Their replacements have no such constraints.
>>108945886Ellison is the only surviving tech CEO who even knows what good programming looks like. Small wonder he wound up first among middle managers.
>>108946278I have a distant relation who was an Apple distributor in Norway.>steve visits their office>young guy there asks steve to sign a keyboard>nice new one made by alps>steve gets incensed>uses a car key to rip out the f-keys and ins/pgdn cluster>signs the keyboard
>>108946278That his last words were "Oh wow oh wow oh wow." I miss when it was a big /g/ meme and people would reply "oh wow" to everything.
>>108945729The fact that siri is still better than the best AI means he was onto something.
>>108945307literally who
>>108946278If the guy actually gave a shit he could've had contracts drawn up so Steve would owe giant punitive fees and lose the land for that. Assuming he couldn't get some kind of historical site designation from the city. Very special properties usually come with lots of strings attached.
>>108946604Oh ow, oh OW!
>>108945388ripped of wozniakliterally betraying your friend and business partner, the one you founded apple with..
>>108945307He only seems less evil because he was the blueprint of the modern CEO faggot cult.May this retard rest in piss.
>>108947464>he was the blueprint of the modern CEO faggot cultYou have no idea what you are saying. That shit is as old as the civilisation itself.Lurk "messianic entrepreneurship".And never mind the Jewish trail in this, it existed before they crawled out of some fucking desert into a civilized world.
>>108945582>>108945582nobody bought them and the company tanked is what I meant. that was the scope of the discussion above -> autismof course they are beautiful machines like many jobs products.
>>108946566Based honestly. Imagine being a gay little fanboying faggot over whats just another human being in a position that you yourself could be too.
He was a huge piece of shit, grifter, and scammer, just like all the other CEO niggers.
>>108946502>Comparing Disney to fucking Jobsare you retarded?
>>108945307Kinda like how before you have full-blown ass cancer you just shit blood occasionally, it's really not that bad right?
>>108947452jobs has that ceo energy, that shrewdness. Did woz get cheated if he got the amount he agreed to?
>>108947839I mean, he did sell them a new animation department after the Jews ruined Walt's. They're more similar than you might like to think.
>>108948001Apple pays him a lifelong stipend he never negotiated for. I think it's generally agreed he wasn't fairly compensated, but he's also a caricature hippie who can't talk about money without breaking out in hives.
>>108945473b-but da joos?
>>108945473What a retarded tagline. Welch is 50 years too young to have done anything to capitalism.>>108948090don't take financial advice from leftists
>>108947452Zuck did exactly the same thing to his cofounder, but 100x worse. Gates did the same to paul allen.
>literally started the street shitting jeet infestation of america
>>108947839This.Disney was a saint compared to the human sack of shit that was blowJobs.
>>108945307>be billionaire>die to treatable cancer because you are a stuck up pretentious retard faggot that needs to try some herbal/natural shit and probably skipped medical checkups with the worlds most elite doctorsHe got lucky in life, his final moments proved he was always a total retard
>>108948383>literally took it up the ass and then got killed by PCcant make this shit up
>>108948395iFAGGOTS BTFO
>>108948326Didn't Walt want to put his employees up in company housing with aggressive surveillance to observe how they interacted with experimental products? That was like the original EPCOT concept.
>>108945307>waaaa he asked me if I've ever taken LSD and had sex before during an interviewThe dude was based as fuck. Too bad he was also retarded and killed himself with his PC.
>>108945437>You don't own your music, Apple does.Jobs removed DRM from iTunes MP3s and the rest of the industry followed suit. Jobs did not invent music streaming. >You don't own your computer, Apple does.Fair, but Microsoft is way worse about this now. >You don't own your cell phone, Apple does.Fair, but the modern cell phone didn't exist before the iPhone.>You don't own your files, they're in iCloud now, Apple does.Google Docs launched in 2006. iCloud launched in 2011. Just like music streaming, Apple was following here, not leading. Some good things Jobs did:>removing DRM from digital music>killing Flash>making portable music players good>competing with Microsoft>mainstreaming a Unix desktop OS>PixarI'm not even an applefag. I don't use any Apple products aside from a USB-C to aux adapter for my phone. But I'm a lot older than I was when trash talking Steve Jobs and Apple was trendy here.
>>108948326>>108948412Disney was crazy in a good way (Epcot included)Jobs was just a businessman
>>108948461>but Microsoft is way worse about this now.Microslop doesn't keep the bootloaders (i.e. BIOS/UEFI) locked>Some good things Jobs did:>killing Flash>implying his decision is that flash>and not the fact that it was a security nightmareshiggy
>>108948383>>108948395Pancreatic cancer is a death sentence. To this day there is no treatment for it. There is also no easy way to catch it early (though it CAN be done).
>>108945378They all stand on his giant evil shoulders
>>108945378You have no idea why you hate Thiel. You just know others hate him so you must hate him too.
>>108945851>description of your penisWas it microSOFT? Or microFLOP?
>>108945307https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PQbXr8oD50
>>108948746I mean we doubled the survival rate for PC but that doesn't mean that much when you realize we went from ~7% to ~13-14% survival odds over five years.
>>108948961This is just increasing the time to death due to better management, rather than increasing how many people survive pancreatic cancer, if you understand what I mean.
>>108945307That's why they got rid of him lol.
>>108945357>>108945310i kind of agree with both of these takes
>>108945965I mean the iphones, ipods, and other things like GUI, others just copy apple and make it cheaper.
>>108946663The reason it took so long is jobs constantly fought the city for permission to destroy the house since it was a landmark. When he finally got it was towards the end of his life and he didn't have the time or energy at that point.
>>108945307he was "evil" because he was autistically focused and he treated his employees "badly" (which often just means being very straightforward and not cutting them any slack). people still loved him even with knowledge of that because the end result was stuff they wanted. and it was good stufftoday's tech ceos are openly telling you they want to ruin your life. they openly try to buy into policy making for their own profit and to further said openly stated goal of ruining our lives. elon fucking musk was given all the keys to the country and given free reign to "cut costs". it's insane to even think aboutjobs' "evil" feels so quaint now
>>108945307Nah, find me any modern CEO that has said disgusting shit like this.
>>108946644You aren't funny or quirky, you're just a low test retard
>>108949815but they're jolly candy-like buttons
>>108948691Jobs wanted to ban porn on normalfag devices and prevent kids under 15 from owning a smartphone. They were both ultra authoritarian fascist ideologues.
>>108945307Imagine claiming that the guy who introduced the iPhone to the world, and unleashed a flood of dumb normies and mentally ill post-wall roasties on the internet, would be "less evil" that what we have now.Klaus Schwab talks about evil shit, while Steve Jobs is the most destructive person of the past 100 years by actions.
>>108950127>They were both ultra authoritarian fascist ideologuesdo you know the definition of "authoritarian fascism"? Oh who am I asking, this is bait
>>108948461>yes, Steve Jobs normalized [evil shit], but others do that now as wellbut would they be doing it, if Jobs wouldn't have used his mindless hord of zombies to make such practices popular?
>>108948746he had a rare like 1 in a million types that could have been operated on and he likely would have lived a very long time compilation free
>>108945307can't say I like him and I never bought an Apple product but he did know how to innovate or at least steal other people's ideas and put them on the mapit feels like Apple has never put out anything new since he has been gone
If Steve Jobs wouldn't have died this early, we would have already gotten a Digital Id 12 years ago.That guy was pure evil.
>>108945307That faggot's death was one of the best things to ever happen to tech.The fact that he didn't die soon enough was one of the worst.
>>10894535>Satan incarnateThat would be Bill "I got AIDS from Russian whores on Epstein Island" Gates.
>>108950199Again, this isn't true. Yes he had an extra rare non-aggressive type, but the survival rate for >15 years is still fuckall even with modern technologies, let alone back then. It was not curable. With state of the art treatment he would maybe have lived 10 years.
>>108945307Yes
>>108946497yet he single-handedly got apple out of going bankruptcurious
>>108950165I'm pretty sure corporations and goverment collaborating to take over your life counts as authoritarian fascism. It's literally what Walt wanted, and he only backed off because people kept telling him nobody wants to live like that.
>>108950550The US government intimidated Microsoft into bailing them out. He lifted the company out of irrelevance though.
>>108951169>and he only backed off because people kept telling him nobody wants to live like that.he didn't end his 'tism project of Epcot, his death did it
>>108945388I mean just look at current Apple tech which is an evolution of his ideas>Do anything to make your devices as unrepairable as possible: oentalobe screws, non-replaceable battery, soldered RAM, soldered SSD, deliberately removing ports to force people into buying dongles, locked down OS where you can't install apps outside of the App store.Apple pioneered the end of ownership for the devices you bought and paid for
>>108945307If he was still alive he'd be participating in all this bullshit right alongside the current crop of them
>>108951220He was getting a ton of pushback from finance before he died too. Absolute best case it would've been Fordlandia with white kids in deep woods Kissimmee.
>>108945307Jobs has the advantage of having dropped dead before tech became the shitshow it is today, and therefore being part of an idealized past rather than a fucked-up present. I feel it's more likely than not he'd be another dime a dozen technocrat dirtbag if he were still alive.
>>108951278Only the last two are actual Steve things, and I don't think he invented having fewer ports.
>>108945683>Ghislaine's tits are so huge in this photoDo Amerimutts really think those are huge? My grandma is probably bigger.
>>108946526>Oracle>Good programmingLMAOMAO
>>108945307only because he's dead now and wasn't able to go as far as others
>>108956263nocodes take
>>108956391I judge their code by using their soft. It is UNBELIEVABLY shit. Microsoft is a utopian dream in comparison.
>>108956469People like you are why computers suck. UX is a tiny sprinkle on top of a flaming turd.
>>108956512Then the oracle is satanic turd, front to back end. Just as its (((owner))).Digits will confirm it
>>108956546retard
>>108945307In hindsight yes, I admit it.
>>108956391He's right, oracleware is totally fucked. Only redhat does worse in the corporate world. Working with that shit is nightmarish.
>>108954937Steve "the street shitting currynigger" Jobs invented kiking retards on computers.
