Why can't peer to peer networks like torrents just rely on temporary file hosts/cloud drives? Hear me out for a second.>Files are indexed in a distributed system like usual>Peer requests a file>Peer with the file uploads it to an external site instead of sending it directly>URL gets shared, might even get cached for a few days until it expiresProblems solved:>Slow speeds>NAT>Exposing your IPProblems introduced:>Increased traffic on file hosts>Needs to support many such hosts in case they get taken downNon-issues>Files are short-lived (most people don't seed anyway so it doesn't change a thing)This might work as an extension of the current protocol, not a replacement. Like a qbittorrent plugin or something.
>>108947811internet can be solved by dropping ipv4
see reason why captcha exists on 4kidsusing it this way is more I2P like anyway and will mostly serve for csam sharingseeding is important, personally i would sneed my torrents 24/7 but problem is seeding constantly consumes power(>100W idle isn't unrealistic) and pollutes resources used on vidyakino so you need a power efficient sneedbox
I was just going to reply with what I thought was a good idea. Then I realized it would probably mostly be used for distributing CP so I decided not to put it out there.>>108947883Beat me to it.
>>108947811i think ur fuckinig retard ./
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>>108947893OP is faggot, always
>>108947811who cares i just steal internet anyway so i dont really care if anyone knows im downloading or sharing cracked engineering software, music, or bbc porn
>>108947811The file host should just join the BitTorrent network then.Why add a layer of indirection?
>>108947811Wouldn't be be peer to peer then
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>>108947811https://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0019.html
>>108947811are you describing seed boxes?
also go away securitard, torrents are fine as they are
just sneed your torrents fagets
>>108947811I'm not sure I understand what is being talked about ITT, but I wonder:Since services like cloudflare can cache a lot of data... What stops people from abusing them by caching torrents?
>>108947883>>108947889Uploading CSAM is the responsibility of the seeder. It's not like you can't just bypass the protocol entirely and upload it outside the network normally.>>108948693Sort of, except the FTP server would be writable in this case.>>108948702No. Let's say you ask the seeder if he could upload the file somewhere because you're both behind NAT or have shitty connection between each other. Except this happens on the protocol level.Now that I think about it biglybt has a chat feature so I guess it's doable except instead of sending chat messages you would send file requests
>>108949259>both behind NATnot a problem with ipv6. call your isp and urge them to implement it. it should have been done 30 years ago
>>108949259>No. Let's say you ask the seeder if he could upload the file somewhere because you're both behind NAT or have shitty connection between each otherWhat would be the point, why waste time uploading at shit speeds, when you could just give the peer the file. Tribler & emule[1][2]1.https://tribler.org/NATtraversal2.https://wiki.emule-web.de/Nattraversal
>>108950136Because speed could be shit between two peers but not between both peers and a hosting site
>>108947811because it constitutes a violation of terms of service and file hosts don't want you to violate thesebecause random file hosts or interaction with them can't be included as part of a protocol as they are volatile and arbitrarybecause the entire idea behind p2p is to avoid a central hostbecause trying to support any, having to go around blocks and file deletions, cloudflare, lack of api or api limitations is more work than it's worth itbecause if you try to do it at scale the file hosts will either croak or introduce even more limitations, making things worse for everybody for no reasonand finally because people didn't use to be psychopaths willing to abuse a free service for meager returns, even if that has started to change with the advent of the automated idiot
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>>108947811The problem is when someone uploads cheese pizza and now you have it in storage.
>>108947811>Peer with the file uploads it to an external site instead of sending it directlyOr even better. Upload it in advance, so there's no risk to have nobody to upload it when it is requested, due to peer downtime.Oh wait, that's just a regular file sharing website...
>>108949234>services like cloudflare can cache a lot of data... What stops people from abusing them by caching torrents?It's called CDN. Paid service.
>>108949576Remind me about it in 30 years, maybe then it'll make sense to go out of my way and waste time on it LMAO
>>108948070Thread blessed.
>>108951356File sharing forums are many. This could be one place for everything, nobody has time to track down the exact autist with the specific file they want
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>>108949234>Since services like cloudflare can cache a lot of data... What stops people from abusing them by caching torrents?On the free tier you are limited in what you can cache. Pirate live sports streaming sites abuse this by making HLS m3u8 playlists with the .ts segments renamed to file extensions that cloudflare will cache, like .css or .ttf, shit like that. But that's against the TOS and their domains/accounts will eventually get blocked from cloudflare so they need to constantly make new ones. I don't think it makes much sense to do this for regular ass piracy even though it's technically possible. Cost benefit effort ratio is much higher for live streaming.
