1. Learning to write code and become good at it is free and will always be free. AI will never be free. Cloud models require expensive subscriptions and local models require a fuckton of expensive hardware. 2. The push for AI assisted coding is double pronged - simultaneously squeezing money out of people, and, making them entirely dependent (skill atrophy/deskilling) on AI.3. The global elites want AI more than anything, because it makes people delusional, dumb, and poorer, which makes them far easier to control.4. The same elites are entirely behind planting the seeds of the demonization of people who have hard skills and still use their brains without using AI.How the fuck do you STILL not get this?
local AI is also free as long as you have a gaming computer with a 16gb GPU
>>1089521731000W is the same amount of power your microwave uses to cook food
>>108952153This must be a bait post.You can learn to code all you want, nobody will hire you if you don't know how to use agents effectively.The point of AI coding is not making people dumber, is getting rid of workers (cost) because it actually works.
>>108952347>know how to use agents effectivelyNigger stop pretending like typing a bunch of words into a textbox is a skill. Any random hobo can do this.
>>108952316how much is your time worth in dollars per hour? how much is your electricity in kwh?
>>108952347>this is how these subhumans actually thinkGrim
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>>108952364it's hilarious to see coping codecels use the same exact lines as arttroons a few years back
>>108952554>>108952540>hurrrrr durrrr actually knowing how to do things is so o-outdated! be like me and don't know jackshit! that's better OBVIOUSLY!
The most telling part about this, is how brazen these subhuman faggots are about not wanting people with hard skills to have said hard skills, which includes scientists, programmers, and creatives. If your enemy is THIS, then you know you're on the right side of history.
>>108952455Your vibeslop is worth nothing if everyone can generate their own. You're paying for electricity for nothing.
>>108952656more like so called "programmers" are a bunch of lazy time stealing faggots, depend on other programmers and stack exchange just to do anything, also now want to ultra gatekeep their art instead of letting it proliferate and have more people experience programming in ways they never would have otherwise. I see notch bitch on twitter about AI all the time and its so funny to me because that fat retard hasn't done anything in almost a decade and even with an entire team at mojang, couldn't do most of the things he wanted to in minecraft, like a simple mod API.
>>108952703>have more people experience programming in ways they never would have otherwise.Learning programming is far easier than, say learning art or music. They could just, you know, learn fucking programming instead of going the lazy NWO cattle route and asking a slopborg. No one is gatekeeping anything.
>>108952718learning a language is easy, learning how to write code is hardsecurity is one thing people gatekeep often, small websites get pwn'd all the time so much so that cloudflare and other providers make money from security services. Its also something cited as inherently dangerous about vibe coding, yet at the same time seemingly human programmers also aren't considering all the variables when they write somethingfact of the matter is if I wanted to do something practicle, ie, add buttons and some sensors to my raspberry pi's gpio, whats the best way to handle inputs and debouncing without interrupting the sensor flow? Its not gonna be in the official documentation, this something that has to be done logically and you know as well as I, most people even those getting paid just google the fucking solution because the first thing we all learned in CS was "Don't reinvent the wheel". Now, sure, I could be less lazy and read other peoples implementations, or I could have AI shit me out an implementation really fast, test it, and if I want, I can have the AI meticulously explain everything the code is doing in hard detail you'd never get online
>>108952642Shut up, stop crying
>>108952801You are human cattle, ZOG-owned and ZOG-approved through and through.You will be culled first, subhuman. :^)
>>108952792Coding's actually pretty easy it's just the architecture and design that's the hard part.
>>108952153Codetrans copeYou are not required anymore
>>108952868>having actual skills and not being a passive consumer is...LE BAD
>>108952809Cope more, we vibeGODS are going to replace you>muh you’re cattleYou are not even human tho, you are transgender and coder (codetrans) therefore subhuman, and probably from South Africa (subhuman country)
>>108952898>we are helping human civilization become exponentially dumber and lazier, destroying the environment, and making billionaires even richer but uhhh we're better than you o algo
>>108952898Literally anyone can type words into a textbox. How are you special?
>>108952915I know how to use ai better than others>>108952910Just like electricity, right? Dumb luddite
>>108952921You can hate one technology and like another. It's called nuance fuckwit. How do you STILL not understand this? And no, that's not a thing.
>>108952928You’re transgender, go back to take your estrogen Ai is the most powerful created by the white man. You wouldn’t get it
>>108952938>being independent is...LE BAD and LE BACKWARDS>sorry fascist nazi smartie but this is a corporate owned intellectually disarmed domesticated ZOGcattle board
>>108952153stop noticing things*unleashes indian hordes on you*
>>108952961Stop using computers then, unless you can build one from scratch using raw materialsKeep crying Luddie, we Bosnians won, vibeGODS won and snailoids lost
>>108953081IT'S CALLED FUCKING NUANCE YOU RETARDED SUBHUMAN SHITSTAIN.
>>108953087>luddite seetheKeep crying, we are going to replace you
>>108953096Nice deflection, 1 IQ automaton retard. :^)
>>108953097You look like this, small, weak and pathetic
>>108953105Why do you deflect so much?
>>108953107I’m making fun of you
>>108953113Vibetoddler inferiority complex is real.
I’m glad ludders are seethiby
>>108953121This is peak envious subhuman retard nocoder behaviour.
>>108953119Why tho? VibeGODDERS are superior to you>they are straight>bosnians>smarter>much faster>can deliver in just one day if required>cool as fuck>strong
>>108953128You are a dumb as rocks nocoder, envious of actual coders. That's why you wanna automate them so badly. I can feel the impotent subhuman jealousy radiating off of your mottled charcoal skin. :^)
>>108953143I’m white, moronCoders are just a bunch of trans nerds who are being replaced by people like me. Face it, they aren’t required anymore and day after day they are being less and less relevantYou can shit your pants, but capitalism doesnt care about your feelings.We aiGODS won, we can deliver stuff, we can create prototypes and there’s nothing you can do to stop us.We aiGODS are a superior race
>>108953155You are a subhuman creature fueled by nothing but envy and sour grapes. The only one coping is you, faggot. :^)
>>108953167Why do commies (you) hate Ai tho?They hate data centers, computers and ai
>>108952153Actually, learning/teaching a human to code and become good at it is incredibly expensive, it doesn't just happen.AI isn't free right now, but it's a lot cheaper than a human once prompted effectively. Not to mention, token cost will trend to zero.Maybe the token cost on all the frontier models will stay around the same, or even go up. But in 10 years (if not sooner), running the equivalent opus 4.8 will be effectively free and doable on consumer grade hardware at similar or even faster speeds than are currently available. The anti-ai line only works if you believe AI doesn't work or that it's somehow cheating in it's current state. The fact is, Opus can generate all code necessary to accomplish 99% of coding tasks, and when it's essentially free (inevitable in the near future) the work to actually develop products will be worthless. You won't want to pay Adobe, because you on your home GPU will go "I need a photoshop like program" and you'll have one for free in minutes. Software as an industry will completely die because the value of an individual program will drop to zero. you won't be able to sell anything coded because somebody else can just have it for free in minutes.It's not like that right now, but the technology already exists that makes it inevitable, the hardware isn't there yet, but it is guaranteed to be in several years, and that's barring any major improvements in the models which is of course also likely.
>>108952684that applies to literally everything lol, you're basically describing the point of copyright and patents, hurr durr mickey mouse is easy to draw but we can gatekeep him legallymeanwhile in a free and oss world, none of that shit matters and the only thing that does matter is what works and whats good. AI and vibe coding accelerates the cream of the crop rising to the top
>>108953710>dOn'T tHiNk JuST prOmPtNot even hiding it.
>>108952153Agreed, snailbros will ENDURE!
The Internet is really dead, is it
Vibesloppers are truly low IQ degenerates.I will continue to learn with books I will continue to program like god intended I will continue to use my brain
>>108952684>everyone canThey won’t. People are lazy and dumb, like you are.
>>108952910Yes. And? What are you going to do about it, luddie? Unlike you, I will live among the elite once the purge begins and gets rid of your kind. You will always live in fear of becoming useless and forgotten by history, while I living happy knowing that I have a place in the society soon to come.
>>108954010>t. assmad he got mogged by a programming prodigy in highschool and now wants all programmers who haven't joined the AI death cult to stop existing
>>108952703Programmers are probably the least gatekeeping people in this world. There are thousands of hours of high quality tutorials, you can also literally read the source code of some of the best software in the world for free. You can read the source code of maybe the best kernel, one of the best compilers, all you need to learn was always there. You can use AI if you want, but calling programmers gate keepers is simply not true.
>>108954030then why does every CS job in the world require a 4 year degree?
>>108954103>ai is muh bossWhy are you proud of the fact you're intellectually disarmed, domesticated goycattle?
>>108954129bro its a fucking meme that took me less than 30 seconds to prompt a free AI site with, why are you so triggered at obviously stupid shit?like you're calling me goycattle but your brain is so sedated you cannot even react beyond my image, many such cases, sad!
>>108954173>HURP DURP HURP MANY SUCH CASES HURRP!! HRURR SAD HURRRRRR!!!!You fancy yourself to be an intellectual, huh? Sorry to burst your bubble but you are a 90 IQ subhuman shitskin.
>>108954173>Many such cases HURPThis is a strange attractor for pseudo intellectual shitskin retards. Since you have used it, you have identified yourself as one. Good day. :^)
>>108952364>Nigger stop pretending like typing a bunch of words into a textbox is a skillWe're not. That's why we're advocating for using AI agents to automate typing words into a textbox.
>>108954210>never heard of an API? or a POST request methods?Saar here we create a Textbox and many of them inside a panel. We create new panels with X amount of textboxes and can flip pages going forward and backs. oops got an out of bounds error there. Don't want to quit coding over that. If i was sukdeep and could not learn Java or Vb id jump off a bridge to make sure 1000s of lives are saved from a plane crash from a future error that would be my fault. I'd also feel good about recycling the planet of my filth as i am only useful as fertilizer.
>>108954329Who are you quoting?
>>108953710That doesn't apy to everything, because most things need training and skill. Proompting does not and thus holds no value. It's only when some can't dedicate years to learn something do they pay for it. Vibeslop by a clueless retard like yourself will always be inherently inferior to vibeslopping by a trained professional who knows how this shit should work and can guide the bot.
>>108952316I usually set the microwave to 800w unless the food is liquid.Normal 5090 is 600w, and 16GB cards tend to be even less.
>>108954356sorry, i pm'd him, he was quoting that
>>108952316Retard. Entire system with any 16 GB card will not go above 500 W. And that's in gaming where PC consumes more power due to much greater CPU and RAM utilization. Local LLM will not go above 350W simply because 16GB cards does not consume more then 300W.
>>108953143Keyboard clacker, sit the fuck down. you are in the middle of the food chain at best, and that's only financially. everybody, from sales to janitors, still pushes you over in the work place.
>>108952153No it's not freewagies like you require salaries, food, transportation,...Claude requires a 20 dollar per month subscription
>>108952316And the microwave is a very energy efficient kitchen appliance
>>108955690maybe they have an nvidia GPU
>>108955870Anti-human "philosophy" at its finest.
>>108952455Electricity costs about 10 US cents per kilowatt hour, give or take one or two depending on usage.
>>108952316You don't leave the microwave running all day, you retarded animal. It should be legal to euthanize you.
look at all these pics generated by an agency, that nobody else uses.
>>108958939damn its like you just completely ignored the rest of what I wrote about how the architecture of programming is something thats not innately taught to anyoneyou an AI or just ESL?
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>>108958932its not anti-human to make each individual human stronger
>>108959199Move Slow, Snailcat!
>>108955870Businesses pay way fucking more then 30 dollars a month
>>108961383I average somewhere like $100-200 a day.
>>108960535There are already 2 billion people living high standard of living and fighting for the most productive jobs while there are 6 billion people living in slums and mud huts doing what machines do but slightly cheaper and with less needed logistics. There are not enough raw resources to make everyone live high quality life and there is not enough work to do to justify more equality. What AI does is allows old friends of upper management and boomers with 40 years of experience and secret knowledge to spend half of what they would spend on other people on burning electricity with tokens, and then put more people into the slums or worse.
>>108961413>secret knowledgepeople wouldn't be in slums if it weren't for this part
>>108958960boomer or shithole flyover?
>>108959199I resonate with this lad so much
