Why didn't the Palmtop gain the popularity that the smartphone has?
smartphones ARE palmtops
>>108952240it didnt come in pastels
>>108952240Porn was crap in 1bpp
>>108952240Palm/Pocket PC walked so Android/iOS could run.Palms were targeting businessmen not normies.
>>108952240The games were primitive and low priority, you couldn't watch video, you couldn't listen to music, web browsing if available at all was slow and limited.The smartphone is primarily used as a media device by the general public and didn't see major popularity until that was broadly possible. Prior to that, most people just wanted an ever smaller rugged communication device.
>>108952240Is this a real thread? You can't honestly think about this for two seconds to figure out why they didn't take off like smartPHONES did?This board is full of bots and retards isn't it?
>>108952353fuck off zoomer, crackberries came out in 1999. only businessmen needed their email all the time so adoption in that market was almost immediate and full, but thats a tiny market. neets and vapid whores had no use for it.
>>108952240I had a psp in 2005 and I was constantly praying sony would make a model with a simcard and a phone application but nope, they hated moneyI mean it wasnt even just me, people were dying for the iPhone, just go rewatch the d1 conference with steve jobseverything needed to make a smartphone has existed for a long time, its just that manufactures, board rooms, have NO BALLS
>>108952477>model with a simcard and phone applicationNokia N-Gage. Incidentally, Nokia was making a smart phone even in the 90s...the Nokia Communicator
>>108952240? palm was worth like a billion dollars by y2k and PDAs completely took off until smartphones became totally practical? the fuck are you talking about
>>108952477>>108952495later: xperia play
>>108952240turn your phone’s WiFi and data plan off and see how useful it is to youyou’ll see
>>108952382If you are asking why these things were not as successful as smartphones then i surize you are the zoomer or perhaps a Gen alpha tard.
>>108952253this; for example, the Treo was a Palm Pilot built into a phone, and it was very popular at the time (and I still have mine in a drawer somewhere). Palmtops without mobile connectivity became pointless after that.
>>108952477>>108952495It really is so weird they couldn't just cross that bridge. The N-gage was fucked because they wanted you to take the phone apart to put in game cartridges and Sony just loves making their products that are on the edge of features that would dominate.Although if I recall correctly there was a psVita that may have been capable of having a simcard version? Or maybe that's just a fever dream.
>>108952240Are you a retard?Google Palm Treo 600 and the 650. 600 was a very popular smartphone the 650 was revised. Widows Mobile also had great smartphones. Windows mobile 5 was a great mobile os. Microsoft fucked up 6 by trying to shoe horn touch UI shit into it
>>108952346>you couldn't watch video, you couldn't listen to music, web browsing if available at all was slow and limited.What the fuck are you going on about?You could absolutely listen to and watch videos on palm os 5+ devices,.BlackBerry os, and windows mobile.The only thing apple did was make a device that idiot normies wanted to buy because it was a fashion statement with a finger UX design. Smartphones prior to that point were the domain of businessmen and nerds who knew how to use them. Android still carries some of that today whereas IOS is still largely a media consumption platform.
>>108952240On the consumer end, not iPhone.On the business end, not iPhone.
>>108953045zoomers dont really understand how the iphone was nearly a DOA product at launch, and was really behind other solutions in most ways. The original iPhone was 2G only and didnt have an app store etc. The finger UI was novel but the whole thing was going nowhere until they added the app store later on.
>>108952989Yeah, the Vita 3G. It was essentially just a Vita with an integrated mobile modem. Sony got sued for false advertisement since 3G was too shit for online multiplayer. It could not make calls or send texts
>>108952240Those things were like $299 in 1995. I wanted one badly but my paper route didn't pay enough.
>>108953120What was the 3G for?
>>108953144Mobile modem for when there's no WiFi nearby but you have cell reception. The rationale was that you could play multiplayer anywhere. In reality it was useless for anything except basic web browsing
>>108952240I had one, it was great, but didn't have rechargeable batteries, non-volatile storage, and back at the time you had to use weird storage decks that connected via serial port (or maybe parallel, I don't remember) because USB barely existed. What killed it for me was that changing batteries axed the internal data storage.But even back in like 2002 I used it as a smartphone, except for making calls. When smartphones came out, I could not fathom why they were popular cause I've seen all they could do already.
>>108952240what is the technical term for this display technology? I'm ESL as fuck and I can't find anything about the thing I love. REEEEEEEE
>>108952240Don’t you see it’s just the same shit with a better screen?
The smartphone took off because it was the first exposure of "the corponet" to normalfags. Now they could see what their friends were doing on kikebook, and watch worthless 10 minute videos on goytube. >>108953948Palm was completely different from IOS. The successor of Palm was Symbian, which was fantastic, while IOS and Android are bloatware crap that only started working when the specs got good enough.Those OSes failed simply because the infrastructure wasn't there. 3G was the killer app, and Apple did a great job of advertising a massively inferior UX to a crowd of retards.
>>108952240Basically the same shit that happened with Amiga: they got drunk with their initial success and they stagnated and started making bad business decisions.My memory is foggy, but I think around PalmOS 5 with some basic multimedia and internet features it stagneted hard (until then it was evolving steadly). Almost a decade later they released WebOS but it was too late by then.t. my dad was a massive Palm (and Amiga) enthusiast and I periodically got his obsolete hardware.>>108952345Palm was a decade before the iPhone. It was even before the iPod. I think S. Jobs was still working at NeXT at the time.Back then there was no "normie" tech market, save for arguably game consoles. No social media. No streaming. No cloud. No web apps. No online gaming. Only business or nerd shit.If they hadn't stagnated, they could've maybe prevented Apple's accession, because Apple filled the void they created. The iOS, specially the earlier versions, always felt heavily inspired by the old PalmOS, but with less freedom. Most of the interface and experience feels pretty much the same, but modernized and inside Apple's walled garden.
>>108953882It's an LCD
Those were gadgets for yuppies. Good to show off your new toy, but essentially unusable.
>>108954337I got a lot of use out of that old "lost technology" shit. If I told a zoomer that I used to use a full size keyboard that fit in my pocket to type up word documents on a device with a 40 hour (actual) battery life on a couple of AAAs, with a month's worth of insta-wake standby time, they wouldn't say anything, because they're retarded. But if they had brains, they'd be amazed at the idea of a life not chained to daily charge cycles for devices that become obsolete in a couple of years as the battery degrades away to nothing.
>>108954013you’re underestimating how good Safari on iPhone was compared to anything elseSafari on iPhone was just a desktop browser where you had to scroll around and wait for renders, but it was just the normal webnot WAPnot some sort of restricted HTML subsetbut justthe web
>>108954407It had plenty of issues, it was just big enough for webdevs to grace us with the cancer of "mobile support". The PSP web browser was "usable" to the same level.
>>108954261I know it's an LCD, but if I only search for LCD I only get backlit RGayB shit REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>108954472It's an STN LCD.
