>blu ray drives now up to $250 or out of stockAHH WHY DIDN'T I REMEMBER TO BUY ONE HOW WILL I USE M-DISCS NOW?!
>blu ray drives>on pcretard alert
>>108955338Do you think we'll see a new disc format anytime soon? 50GB M-Discs aren't that big of a deal these days. I wouldn't mind seeing 256GB discs.
We told you.
are those cheapy ones suitable for dumping blu-ray discs? i finished dumping all my Sega CD, PS1, PS2 etc games last month and wanna start dumping my other shit just to have backups
>>108955338>got a BW-16D1HT in my PC>got a BW-16D1X-U on the shelfNot my problem, should've boughted them before they all went out of production.
>>108955480No, 100gb is already pushing the physical limit of how much data can fit into a standard sized optical disc and I don't see larger laser-disc sized discs becoming a thing
you can still buy a ps3 for dirt cheap. all models are hackable. they can dump bluray games and blurau movies except for 4k ones.
>>108955338It's just like VCRs. No one makes them anymore. Getting a used one is the only option.
The ship has sailed OP, sorry.
the drive prices are whatever its finding good quality burn media for cheap. its like when cd/dvd-r's died and the market became flooded with shitty memorex/sony clones that cant even boot ps1/ps2 games.
>>108955338use case in the current year? none.
>>108955338If BluRay stuff will be soper expensive in the future then doesnt that mean its terrible for archival? >Oh lets see whats on great grandpas family photos disc!>Nevermind, a disc reader is $100,000 because they are antique collectors items now
>>108956529Archival grade storage is already expensive, even if bluray drives cost $500-1000 it would still be easily within the budget of a proper archive. The key factor is the cost of discs, not the cost of the drives. If discs increase too much then drives could be free and no one would bother using it for archiving.
>>108955338I just filled multiple 100gb m-discs with tranny porn using a drive that I got last year.
>>108956549I dont expect anyone living in 2126 to archive their shit on BluRay. The important thing is if the people in 2126 can read BluRays that were burned in 2026. And the answer will probably be no. But people in 2126 can absolutely look at books or photos from 1926.BluRay fails as an archival media because future people cant access it.
>>108956402Its not like a VCR because with a VHS tape, being analog video, you can scan the film if so determined. Its basically a long strip of microfiche.You cannot scan the pits on an optical disc and see anything humanly intelligible.A VHS tape is recoverable without a VCR.A BluRay is not recoverable without a BluRay drive.
>>108956589If it's a big enough problem then some no-name chink electronics company will start making working replicas
>>108955445So why are BD drives so expensive but CD/DVD are still cheap?
>>108958643Out of productionLicensing feesBlu-Ray players are still alive and well in the home cinema market, but PC compatible Blu-Ray drives are more or less dead.You had three manufacturers of the 5.25" drives: LG, ASUS and Pioneer.Pioneer was only available in the US and Japan. They sold off that business to the Chinese.LG got out of the market, ASUS also and all that's left of ASUS' stuff are the final stock which is why it's so expensive.The fact that these drives were extremely popular with people ripping Blu-Rays that have a ton of DRM to avoid that was likely a contributing factor. I wouldn't be surprised if behind closed doors Sony was choking out manufacturers of these drives with licensing fees to kill that market since it was a thorn in their side.
If I were to want to store stuff on discs, then what I should go with? DVD?
>>108958807For longevity, definitely M-Disc. With the right drive you can burn those, and by burning those you're etching a mineral layer that is unlikely to ever degrade.
I bought a used one from Japan for $20 last month and stuck it in a cheap Chinese enclosure that used to have a DVD drive in it.
>>108958643Most of the CD/DVD drives that are so cheap right now are harvested from e-waste laptops.
>>108958849Ok, but what is the cheaper/easier option? I was thinking of using those discs instead of HDDs due to less moving parts and that I could make copies for redundancy.>>108958890Are those still produced? DVDs seem too cheap to just simply abandon them.
>>108958971I kinda doubt it since laptops with DVD drives aren't really being produced. Maybe there are some niche offerings you can get. Like Buffalo sells blu-ray drives made in Japan instead of China so they can meet US federal government purchasing requirements and you can get them on Amazon.But if you see a $10-15 no-name external DVD drive in a generic looking enclosure expect it came from a 15 year old laptop.
>>108958971>>108958997https://buffaloamericas.com/about/compliant-infoThey do offer one DVD drive
>>108956378Data cubes when
>>108958997>>108959046Well... Did some research and I guess my options are either CD-RW or DVD-RW with latter having much more storage space. I'm fine with buying an external DVD drive, I think there are some actual new pieces made. It would be fun to make a game and sell it in CD-R discs, but it's a far future if at all.
I gave up trying to use m-disc or really any bdr for archiving stuff, it's just not worth it.it does not matter if your bd can last 1 bazzillion year if there is no way to read them.just buy hdd and have a proper backup setup, that's the best thing you can do.I wish tapes were more accessible but if you aren't in the us it's basically impossible to find a good shape lto-6 reader
>>108955480>>108959065Its time to take the plunge
>>108956529yes you're better off using dvd even if they're not as efficient
>>108956633>You cannot scan the pitsuh. actually it's possible fwiw. not yet practical, but yeah it isn't impossible.
>>108958683>I wouldn't be surprised if behind closed doors Sony was choking out manufacturers of these drives with licensing fees to kill that market since it was a thorn in their side.I never thought of that but that has to be the case. There's no reason the remaining manufacturers would all give up at the same time unless there was external pressure. At least some of the patents should be expiring so the chinklones can start coming out.
>>108956633This post makes no sense. Tape is not film. You can't scan it frame by frame like film. You're gonna need a VCR if you want to do this:https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode/wiki/Signal-Sampling
>>108955338i'm now remembering an early adopter friend of mine who was convinced hd-dvd would win and bought hardware and discs in the format
>>108961544At the time I thought Sony winning wasn't going to be a good thing. But in hindsight it was an inferior format.
Sensationalist dogma. I can get them for 20 bucks here.
I am so fucking glad I got mine a few years ago with the hard drive prices lately. Holy fuck. Just ordered a 50-pack of discs to store my stuff since my 8TB drive is full. I hate this economy.
I got myself 4 spare ODDs in January. I think I will be good for a while.
>>108962155Technically I have 3 in my house. I only own one bluray drive and that's the one in use while the other 3 DVD drives are dormant. I think the Wii U can read bluray discs? That would make 5 drives, 2 bluray.
>>108955338Man I feel really smart buying my m-disc drive at $60 now.
You can buy mine for 100 Eurodollar
>>1089553384K Blue Ray Drives. Plenty of BR drives available for ~100€
>>108962779Especially if you buy a slimline drive then stick it in a cheap enclosure.
So i fell for the disk meme to keep my files during long periods of time. I bought a good machine and good discs. Used the second slowest speed to burn them (maybe x4 ?, can't remember), used the verify files function or whatever name each time i made a copy, a process that needed around the same time than burning the disk, around 30 minutes.Well, even after being this careful, some disks failed. Having a video with a weird pixel is ok, but a missing bit in a virtual machine, for example, fucked it forever. So, i can't spread good words about this method of preserving info.
>>108962831That's interesting, that never happened to me. I have been using Blu Ray and DVDs for approximately 30 years. Since the beginning, I made sure to always take note of checksums and all. Not even a single bit rot ever occured. And it's not like I always stored all of them in good conditions. Some were even in high humidity environments and still after decades, not one case of bit rot in any of them. I am curious to figure out what might have happened to your disc.
