>>108955841>"My older kids don't pay any strate." he said. "Teachers are attention to an answer being absurd. shy."
This is a luddite board retardwe all want to go mine coal for a living or ride horses to battle here on /g/
>>108955841The image you posted contains the full context but you still fail to comprehend it.
I went to school in the end of the 90's, back when young teachers had those brilliant ideas about how to improve education by making things easier for students.The first thing they did was teach kids to read using "natural language" instead of a proven syllabic system. This way we look at the word and know what it means, which sounds cool and does make you read faster, except that I can't tell if a word is spelt wrong even if my life depends on it. Not to mention reading words you don't know is comically hard.The second thing that fucked me over was allowing everyone to use multiplication tables, because "adults don't need to know the multiplication table". Yes, we do. Holy shit, this caused me so much trouble over the years.I fear for kids nowadays who just do all homework with ChatGPT. They will literally be the underclass working for immigrants whose parents had a more rigid education.
>>108955841and they are right
>>108955940true, sometimes you need to learn the hard way
>>108955841Primary school teachers in my country are still against it. Abacus is never obsolete
>>108955841I never used a calculator except for trig functions. Can you even do trig in your head? Every text says use a calculator. I tried asking ChatGPT and it gave me some mystical shit answer that went over my head / I forgot. t. Brainlet
>>108955929>teach kids to read using "natural language" instead of a proven syllabic systemwhat?
>>108955841they were right tho
>>108956290I had books with tons of tables of trig results.Basically reference materials, which calculators made mostly obsolete.
>>108956290everything you can do with trig you can do with straightedge and compass
>>108955841>The teachers feel if students use calculators too early, they won't learn math concepts.This is completely reasonable. Of course you just wanted to use the headline to draw non-existent parallels because of your crippled Indian intellect.
>>108955929This wasn't suggested by the teachers at all, and your speech impediment has more to do with your homeschooling and inbreeding than public education.
>>108955841uninironically what's a use case for a calculator in math? calculators should only be used for chemistry and physcis.
>>108956290>I tried asking ChatGPT and it gave me some mystical shit answerI can see that happening, I can't see chatgpt handling basic trigonometry. It can hardly sum as it is.
>>1089578382x + 3x = ???xYou can't know this without a calculator.
>>108956290what is the usecase for non-symbolic trig besides engineering anyways
>>108958374Bro you can't just add numbers and letters together, especially with a letter that's the same as a math symbol x
>>108955841Gender reassignment surgery is relatively new technology and "just a tool" but that doesn't mean it should be as ubiquitous as physically possible and everyone should get it to some degree. Not every new technology is beneficial and those which are may only have rare or fringe or highly specialized use cases. New technology doesn't mean "its good at everything and makes everything better and it should be forced into as many things and as many contexts as possible. Everyone should use this and it should be in everything". AI makes absolutely nothing I like or care about better for me. I shouldn't want it and should do my best to avoid it as completely as possible. No amount of it makes any thing better for me, any amount of it will only make anything worse. That holds true no matter what, and no matter how common the pollution is. It might not be possible for someone to avoid getting cancer-that should not make them feel less negatively about cancer. They will still see cancer as something negative to avoid as far as possible.
>>1089578382 billions times 2 billions. Go on smart guy, try to solve that without a calc
>>108955841Those teachers were correct.
>>1089587544 followed by 18 zeroes
But those teachers were right. What next, are you going to tell me that AI is like the car? Guess what, society is much worse off for its invention.I challenge any tech "enthusiast" to name a single piece of technology that actually benefited mankind as a whole and made life better.
>>108959353the wheel
>>108957838It's not math if the solution is to use a calculator, it's just arithmetic
>>108956290> I never used a calculator except for trig functionsHonestly I don't even know how to do that. Not sure if ever did that. Why would you want that? We usually left that as is, or the exercise was designed such that you would end up with the value from a table you have memorized.In general calculators were banned, but equasions were designed well, so you would never have to deal with "ugly" numbers.Basically it contained a hint. If it's really fucking ugly, then you're probably doing something wrong. Hint is a negative side. Positive being the fact that you never had to waste time doing much calculations, point was to teach you how to deal with higher level of abstraction. If you manipulate those well, you can into Math. If not, doing calculations won't help you, computers exist for that.
>>108955841Did you mean to pick the one example of teachers and luddits being right amongst the billions of shit takes from either group? Really nigger?>hurr durr I have a phone anwaysYeah no shit nigger you're still expected to be able to add one and one together without a phone, an abacus or a sheet of paper which is a task many people now fail exactly because of decades of dumbing down the education sector of the entire western world.
>>108959622Low quality bait or genuine mental retardation?
well they still dont let us use calculators here in europet. math undergrad
>>108955841Luddites have been a problem for yearsLuckily, we have AI and we can replace em
>>108959757He's right though. Math is way more than just Arithmetic.
>>108959622ti89ProblemSolver.tiff
>>108955841I rarely used a calculator in my math degree
>>108959850Not when you're in elementary school it isn't. Unless you want kids to start with logic and axiomatic set theory. It could be done I guess, but I think it's too abstract for most.
wasn't that long ago there was actual debate over replacing toll booth operators with electronic methods because of (un)employment. some people unironically prefer we pay people to stand in little metal boxes breathing in car exhaust for hours every day rather than having a robot do it.
>>108955841The luddites were right. Kids can't count change. Unironically they are useless if the cash register goes down. They can't even competently sell a soda - literally.The solution is simple, just get some apps and practice, so there's unc's tip for you, it's free.
>>108959907Ignore the leftists, almost none of what they say matters.Jurassic Park guy has part of the answer >>108957071It's good that we gave up many menial tasks to technology. But giving up intelligence and putting it on a meter? There are many roads that follow and few of them look good.
>>108959907Listen to this ai song.https://files.catbox.moe/cet3jv.mp3It's based on Goebbels' words.It's real politics, it's not the kind you faggots think is politics. Real politics is inevitable.
>>108956290you can just memorize all of the usual trig values and trig identities
>>108956290You just practice problems, literally that's all.
>>108955940>and they are rightOf course they are.We don't use calculators in European schools, so we learn to do those calculations and graphs by hand.
>>108960187I'm sure someone wants a 1 tps llm that eats rotten fish.
>>108959850If you're doing arithmetics, you're doing maths. Low level maths, but still maths.
