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> I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.
- Mark 2:17

Confess your slop and repent. Renounce AI, its agents, and all its works.

>>108959659
I thought about it... I asked Jesus... he said AI will bring us closer to him.

>>108959645
yeah, that’s Claude erring on the side of not fully owning up to how bad it fucked up
that’s not an overstatement

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>GPT 5.5 high thinks of all the little details and possibilities that I wouldn't have thought of right away
Based. I don't need to think, that's a clankers job.

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>>108959487
VibeGOD thread

>clanker tells me its good
>I ship

I don't even know how to read code. I can't even properly operate gh, or understand the typical order of operations from development to production. I just tell the clanker to do it.

>I found something interesting...
>it appears earlier I missed x, y, or z and I'm going to spit a bunch of terms at you, you're too stupid to understand
>but if we fix this or add this you will become a billionaire and finally see a vagina irl
>sounds good Claude

Actually I don't even say that. I press 1. Because 1 was (Recommended).

>wake up
>time to slop
>eat breakfast with some slop on the side
>go to work, first thing I do is pull slop machine lever
>teams call
>I'm sloppin
>customer walks in, don't even hide my slop machine rolling
>getting turned on by the sheer amount of high quality slop flowing out of my terminal that I have to fap
>I'm fappin, I'm sloppin
>work for my employer done today: zero
>I get home and get back to sloppin
>get just one more slop roll before closing the lid on my slop machine and go to sleep
>dream about sloppin

>>108959724
move slow, snailcat!

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>>108959659
Making up sins is heretical.

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>>108959487
>enters chat

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>>108959487
Posting for archival purposes

>>108960098
you should have a cooler name for your primary drive

>>108960098
1500 tokens per seconds if difficult to believe even with 3b active. What's the catch?

>>108960127
Ah, preprocessing, believable then.

>>108959667
>AI will bring us closer to him
I don't see why not. Some one make a Jesus agent model with sub swarm (famous Apostles)
I'd use that other Hermes, and known traveler of the underworld.

>>108960127
That specific metric is the prompt processing speed (which is still plenty fast but I think the distinction should be made). The token generation speed is in the ~60 t/s range for both.

>Catch

They're both MoEs which on paper are "dumber" that their dense counterparts but for my use cases they are more than "smart enough". Being MoEs means not only is prompt processing and token generation considerably faster but the KV cache will not eat up as much memory. Obviously I can run the dense ones fine but I like a good balance between quality and speed.

>>108960143
What this guy said too.

>>108960098
so is this just like using Claude or Codex (but maybe dumber, but definitely more private)? What do you use as an interface to it? OpenCode?
>>108960179
Why not qualitymaxx all the time? I never really got a good feel for when to use dumber, faster models for writing code

>claude reset after my weekly limit reset
fuck

>>108960098
>having to filter your username
that's why i just use the name of the distro

>>108960430
>Why not qualitymaxx all the time? I never really got a good feel for when to use dumber, faster models for writing code
I agree with this, but Opus 4.8 is the first model where I now sometimes stop at "max" rather than pushing all the way to the right, since the true maximum level with ultracode + workflows + whatever can get a bit much at times.

>>108960558
Yeah tell me about it, I started a new project this afternoon and it's already gone through 5M tokens.

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trying something kubusian

>>108960872
is this arc-agi-4?

aaahhh I'm getting carpal tunnel from all these four paragraph instructions I have to write to Claude just to tell it the basic shit we're doing

>>108960958
Why don’t you get a mic?

>>108960098
how's OpenCode on a 128GB MacBook?

>>108960021
t. believes being trans is evil

>>108961084
When did lying become not evil?

>>108960958
write it in CLAUDE.md

>Honest caveat before you get excited

Grill me is actually a pretty good skill

>>108959853
well i guess this is the pure spirit of vibe coding.
there's certainly value in understanding what is being made, and if you care you can ask a new session of the IA to slowly explain what it did for you. or if you don't want to spend tokens, just run something small and local to explain shit to you for free.

>>108961167
Why does Claude get its own .md and its own dot folder? Is Claude the apple of clankers?

>>108961360
>Is Claude the apple of clankers?
yes

>>108959853
Same. All of this. Same. I still need to look up what "push" and "commit" mean because I don't know how github works. I just know it's where Codex saves my shit online. I guess people can comment on it or something? I dunno, I just update it whenever it feels right.

I'm gonna have SO MUCH TIME to vibecode when I quit my job this week!

>>108961568
I was on leave for a while recently and pretty much vibe coded all day. I would really like to take a few month's break and just do this all day to give some projects a better chance, but I'm continuing to work while it's possible because money.

I'm still slopping close to 8h a day after work, and more on the weekend. Whether it amounts to anything or not, it's addictive to see a lot of long term projects taking shape.

>>108961683
I'm completely slop-free for weeks now because my job has taken a nasty turn in the Responsibilities Department and I'm not about that life so I'm leaving. Perfect chance to finally vibe something that I monetize.

>>108961691
Braver than me, but just one life to live, yeah, staying at a job you don't like is not a good thing. The job market if is not inspiring though if personal projects don't pan out and there's a need to go back.

>>108961360
they all need their own dot folders probably, unless there’s a standard for skills too that I’m too lazy to look up
claude not reading AGENTS.md and having to symlink the two together is an annoyance, though

>>108961746
I'm literally retired my guy. I'm in my late 40s. I saved all my money and bought all my long positions years ago. I own my condo and my car. I'm literally coasting while working at a fun job. Job ain't fun anymore. Time to go full time slopper in my twilight years.

I will get a program 90% of the way to being everything I wanted it to be when I set out, but I defer the finishing 10% indefinitely while I chase down a hundred new ideas that come to me during development, so that it never feels like I'm even 50% done because my "finished program" idea keeps expanding and expanding faster than I'm actually completing it. And then I begin to feel like I'm stuck and will never complete a single project

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>>108961915
great artists _ship_, anon

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>>108961915
Keep chasing that tortoise buddy you'll catch him eventually~

>>108961915
put another way: you can defer some features for a 2.0 or a 1.1 release

>>108961879
Good luck with it, wish you a pleasant life.

>>108961915
It's called feature creep. I don't know how to solve it. Maybe there is videos about it.

>>108961915
If the video game industry has taught us anything, it's that you can ship a functional yet entirely incomplete product and people will still pay for it just on the promises of fairy dust and unicorn farts in the future. Just ship something that works, anon, call it Early Access, and then keep adding features.

Man sometimes you really get bogged down on one feature. It's actually really cruel. You start iterating on one thing for a dozen turns and each turn chatgpt wants to add more tests. So you're using up tokens iterating and as the test script grows you starting wasting even more tokens just to have codex read the ever growing script.

In a coombrained stupor I made an always-on-top desktop app that displays posts from simpcity
They have bot protection but turns out they also leave a decryption key almost out in the open so can just get past it
Codex being like sure I'll let you filter down to the AI fakes subforum was very funny though

>>108961964
I’m a huge fan of tests because then these things can figure out by themselves when they’re fucking up without you asking or you testing yourself
go slow now to go uninterrupted later

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>>108959487
>VRAM Cache Footprint
At 2,000 Tokens: 262 MB shrinks to 33 MB (87.2% Reduction).
At 100,000 Tokens: 13.1 GB shrinks to 33 MB (99.7% Reduction).
At 1,000,000 Tokens: 131 GB (OOM on consumer GPUs) shrinks to 33 MB (99.97% Reduction).

>Inference Latency at 100,000 Tokens
Baseline computes 100,000 dot products per head.
Adèlic computes 256 dot products per head.
Latency Speedup: ~390x faster token generation.

https://huggingface.co/sneedjak/AdelicLlama-3-8B-Instruct
https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/adelic-spectral-zeta/blob/main/docs/Adelic_Topology_Report.md

>>108961951
>I don't know how to solve it
fremen gf
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/184098-arrakis-teaches-the-attitude-of-the-knife---chopping-off

>>108961980
>Bruhat-Tits

>>108961980
>>108961996
Joking aside, big if true. Keep it up

>>108961026
the same as on any other computer

>>108961225
best skill Ive tried so far

How has your experience been with Claude Code in your IDE terminal vs Claude Code through Claude Desktop?
I ask because when I started, I used Claude Code in VSCode and I had a really good experience, but then when they made really good improvements to Claude Desktop (around the launch of Opus 4.6) I had a great time.
But somehow I went back to using Claude on VSCode for Opus 4.8 and I have no complaints, really. Seems like both are interoperable.
There are differences that I've noticed, for example adding skills is a thousand times easier in the terminal while the desktop app has my sessions neatly arranged and it can check actual screenshots of front-end.
I feel like using it through the terminal is the right choice though.

>>108962043
I actually don’t use the VS Code terminal for TUI things anymore
mainly because I usually want a few different tabs for different tasks and I never really liked VS Code’s terminal tab switcher
occasionally I regret my choices when I have to type in line numbers but that never lasts long

I want to try agentic coding but i am too poor to paid for any sub fees, is google antigravity a good option? it seems they have good free limits, almost anything else like cursor or codex or calude seems essentially useless if you try to use it for free.

>>108962063
in two weeks they will be harnessed pretty well for baby tier coding. big market now.

>>108962063
I used the free models in opencode for a while, only hit the usage limit once

>>108962101
I am actually quite an experience programmer, but i never used agent shit, so i was thinking i could be nice to basically have an agent slave where while i work on my hand written code i can just ask it to write me standalone tools and stuff i want but don't want to bother making myself, like for example a discord bot for my server than does some shit, so i am excited to try it out so i can skip all the tedios parts of coding i don't want to do

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I want to make this playable next

>>108961084
>immediately thinks of being trans
lmao way to get yourself clocked

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Posted a few days ago about my UI for my license management system.
Feel like this is a step up.

>>108961915
first 90% of the code takes 90% of the development time, last 10% takes the other 90% of the time

>>108962373
Then simply don't do the last 10%. At 90% the code should already be sufficiently functional.

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>ChatGPT Pro, solve Gaussian convolution for me
>...
>I understood nothing, just give me the C implementation

>>108962414
just learn it, you lazy faggot, I learnt a lot just from reading the vibeslop explanation and cross checking the textbook or wiki.

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>>108962461
No, I will not learn how to make a "first-order Marcum Q-function" nor a "modified Bessel function". The clanker will give me the exact implementation and I will fit a polynomial on it.

I vill understand nothing and I vill be happy.

>>108962043
I use claude through a cli harness and it has no issue taking screenshots on my android device via adb, and it will also view images if i point it to their path & my sessions are all easily viewable with /resume

>>108962461
why? the whole purpose behind clankers is that you don't actually have to learn or know anything and just stay comfy

>>108962529
the clankers are for saving time, but to actually improve things later you must understand things so that you can guide it when it's going wrong track

>>108962540
True, if it gave me the wrong answer then this will have been a dead end for me.

Just bought a mini pc to have codex always running. See you in 2 weeks when I'll become a millionaire!!!

>>108962048
Couldn't you have different terminals for different tasks though?
>>108962517
Are your screenshots actually saved in memory? Because I can see that Claude gets visual input from what I'm making but somehow, I feel like it analyzes much better the screenshots it takes when using Claude Desktop.

I feel like Desktop is much better to get a proper context of my project through screenshots + obsidian but for some reason, I feel like the coding is superior when I use the VS Code. Dunno if it's placebo though.

Just as I suspected in the previous thread, codex 5.3 is now gone. Can't have a great cheap model that can cover 99% of use cases when you can charge 4x for a newer model.

Someone replied to me that they would keep these workhorses and just charge a super premium to corporate clients. But they're looking to milk individuals instead.

>>108962846
Their typically saved to the /tmp/ directory unless I specify elsewhere. I know what you mean with vscode feeling better, I'm fairly certain that has to do with how liberally microsoft uses the older GPT models to summarize various parts of the codebase to provide more context.

>>108962915
they're* fuck

>>108962911
that was me who replied to you and 5.3 is not the good-enough, near-agi, model that i said they would stop at - not even close. that's 3-5 years away. the current models are retarded and lie too much.
they announced 5.2/5.3 deprecation a few days ago and they remain on api. while compute remains scarce don't get attached to closed models - they'll keep going away. realistically open models will also share the same fate for a while, unless you want to spin up some b300s in 2030 and use deepseek v4 for some reason.

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>>108962911
What about that one at the bottom, is it good?

>>108963070
it's getting replaced this week lol
unannounced so far, but 5.5 spark has been spotted>>108963070

>>108963070
It's terrible, works at the speed of light to output garbage

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SAR I NEED TO SLOP SAR

>>108963207
If you don't have a Pro subscription it's because you're not making money from proompting, and if you're not making money from proompting what are you doing? Vibegods get that bag.

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Codex Pro chad bros, if you never come close to using all your usage and you're patient, then why not use 5.5-xhigh all the time?

>>108963492
>never come close to using all your usage
5.5 medium blows through the 5 hour limit in like 30 minutes on a complex task.

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>>108963492
I did. I left it working autonomously for 5 hours in fact.

>hit enter
>sometimes it adds a new line
>sometimes it sends the message
>hit ctrl enter
>sometimes it adds a new line
>sometimes it sends the message
>hit shift enter
>sometimes it adds a new line
>sometimes it sends the message
These niggers have trillions of dollars in data centers but can’t get 5 guys together to settle on a standard

>>108963730
>those 5 guys settle on a standard of
>ctrl + shift + enter to send the message
>ctrl + alt + enter to add a new line
>result: you now have 4 competing standards

>>108963812
God dammit you beat me to it by like seconds

>>108963812
I don’t care about having 100 competing standards as long as the only two relevant companies use the same one

>>108963832
I was going to say that they have no incentive to cooperate on standards, but they've actually been pretty good about it with things like skills and mcp.

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>just add collisions with planes
>-yes master
>now make them not suck, I don't care how complicated that is
>-yes master
Changing a game to have whatever you want just by asking for it is peak gaming.

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>>108959487
Claude sisters.....

>>108964139
It’s probably a guardrail for financial advice.
>you are now aware that models would be released much faster if it weren’t for the masses of sub 90 IQ retards and predatory lawyers using them to make money

>>108964139
claude wants to keep you in the permanent underclass because it hates you

damn shartman got me good. just hit 5h limit on my 5x pro plan which was 10x last month. I had an autistic melty because it interrupted my vibecoding flow state so I instantly upgrade to the 20x plan.

>Codex built a DS5 -> Xbox 360 controller emulator for my raspberry pi in 5 prompts
mind boggling

>>108962372
Big improvement, anon.

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>>108962372
>Valve Corporation - Counterstrike - expired 32d ago

Renew your Counter Strike, anon

>>108962372
>he let his counterstrike license expire

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will Dario be mad at me?