I can’t believe I’m typing this, but today I was let go from a role after about a year, and the feedback surprised me enough that I’m curious whether others are seeing the same thing.

For context, I have 14+ years of experience as a software engineer.
Most of my career has been spent building backend systems, leading teams, designing architecture, troubleshooting production issues, and delivering software in more traditional engineering environments.

The feedback I received was essentially: “You’re an exceptional software engineer, but a mediocre AI-prompting software engineer.”

The company is heavily embracing AI-assisted development and apparently felt that my effectiveness with AI tools wasn’t where they wanted it to be.

What’s interesting is that this wasn’t framed around code quality, system design, delivery, reliability, communication, or any of the areas I’ve historically been evaluated on. The discussion centered almost entirely around how effectively I was leveraging AI.

>>108960275
>But Dad, *I* want a better life
>"And why the hell do you think YOU deserve anything better, huh?"

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Working in an office for the first time in close to a decade really highlights my social issues. Cannot talk to people to save my life. Hear strangers start a conversation and it seems so easy. Everyone here is so nice and they keep trying to talk to me and I give them nothing back. And there’s so many people. One after the other, they try, realize I’m a lost caused, and give up. They ask questions and I give direct closed responses. They make jokes and I look stern because I didn’t notice it was a joke. At best I manage to ask a couple small talk question back but lose steam quickly.

Have a week long conference. Practically a giant mixer to get to know some people. Today was day 1 and I failed. Tomorrow’s going to be the day I actually manage a conversation right? I’m not forever going to be the weirdo that makes everyone uncomfortable right?

>>108960358
>Working in an office
why tho?

>>108960387
Oh no, the golem goyim tech slaves are gaining awareness about their subhuman status

>>108960387
This reminds me of 3 classmates I had to work with for a year on projects. All from India, of course.

>One never showed up
>One thought we could make our own version of facebook+whatsap+instagram
>One thought he knew more than everyone in the world combined

Present:
>Went back to India
>Working as a kitchen helper
>Went back to India

Meanwhile, I got my American citizenship and work in a cushy senior role. I'm from Argentina fyi.

>>108960283
yeah, that tracks.
ai is a game changer, and choosing to not learn to prompt is like choosing to not learn excel.
you might think that's wrong, but it doesn't matter what you think.
don't believe me?
start a boutique programming company and try not to use ai.
you'll be out of business in no time flat.
learn to adapt or change careers.

>>108960358
You got this anon. Just smile

>>108960383
Wish I knew. They gave me the whole we want everyone to be able to be able to walk up to each other if they need to work together thing but nobody needs to work with me so idk

>>108960273
I'm a white man and I hate america!

>>108960513
this. all it took was a few trips to costco.

>be me
>work at company for just shy of 2 years, it's a smaller company and most of my coworkers live across the world (only me and maybe 2 or 3 team members usually in office, and even then barely)
>fiancee has to move ~3 hours away and wants me to follow
>ask to go remote because i still like working for the company and don't want to find another job after working for a long time to get this one (albeit with no experience)
>get told either i have to stay at the office or prepare to find another job by the time my 2 years rolls around
What do I do? I can either stay behind without my fiancee and not have to job hunt, or take the plunge and go searching in another market with at least some ample time before then (~4 months). If I stay, it's likely I'll be living alone and apartments in my area are really hard to afford. My pay isn't great as is but I'm wondering if the risk is too much to overcome. However, I'd be searching for a job with way more experience than when I started, and since my team is tiny and company is newer I've worked a lot of different things.

>>108960552
Damn, that's a tough spot to be in, bro. On one hand, staying might mean loneliness and financial stress, especially with the apartment prices, but it keeps your job security intact and you avoid the hassle of job hunting while still trying to build your career. On the other, following your fiancée could open new doors and give you a fresh start, but it’s a risk, especially if you’re jumping into a new market with no guarantee of a better gig. Honestly, if your current job gives you some flexibility and you’re willing to risk a short-term grind, I’d say go for the move, especially since you’ve gained a lot of experience in a short time. Worst case, you find a better job after a few months, and best case, you get to be with your girl and start fresh somewhere new. Just weigh the risk vs reward and remember, sometimes you gotta take the leap if you want a shot at something better.

>>108960552
I had a similar situation years ago. I stayed behind until I found a job in her city - I think this was the best outcome, and we are married now. I pray you will figure it out.

>>108960631
can you pray for me too?

>>108960631
Pray for me too pls

>>108960552
Shit sux man. You either lose her or you lose your job. Personally, I would keep the job, but that's just me.

>>108960631
>>108960600
Thanks. Looking at the other city, there is *some* opportunity, and I think another facet of this equation is that it's unlikely my current job will raise my pay substantially, so jumping to another company who will start out even higher may be the move.

>>108960283
the entirety of the stock market is valued on AI companies

other companies that have shareholders that are heavily invested in AI see it as a way of increasing "underlying value" in both the AI companies and the company you work for

therefore, if you aren't making the AI seem more valuable, or at least laundering that value by making prompts to fool them, you're actively working against them

that's why you got fired, it doesn't matter how skilled you are since the AI model will be better in a year and probably replace you anyway. it's all about how well you are feeding the model, not how much value you return to the company itself

>>108960358
you're autistic, there's only two ways out: 1. study the fuck out of social dynamics (like the RSD guys, Robert Greene, etc.) 2. kys

I recommend #1, it's way less difficult than you think it is

>>108960358
literally just say words

>>108960450
there's a reason Peter Thiel fled to Buenos Aires and Elon pulled his investment from India

>>108960678
>>108960685

gladly, consider it done.

>>108960817
>Look up Robert Greene
>seduction artist
You fucking with me?

>>108960821
It’s easy outside the moment

>>108960928
>hey, what's up?
>what department/team are you in?
>oh you're in x? what's that like? do you do a lot of y?
it's literally that easy

>>108960283
https://old.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/1tu9jmz/has_anyone_else_been_evaluated_on_ai_prompting/

>>108960358
my ex used to call me "robot" lmao. years and years of isolation do that...

>>108960552
>~3 hours away
that's not much. can you ask for hybrid, 2-3 times a week, rent a smaller apartment and travel a couple of times each week?
or maybe just look for another job. 2 years might be a good time for that (to get better pay). are there any jobs in the city she's moving to?

>>108960358
Watch a YouTube video on how to converse with people when you have nothing to say. It's easy bro you can do it

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>>108960938
I can't do any of these because I couldn't even pretend to care

>>hey, what's up?
I don't care if you're happy or miserable

>>what department/team are you in?
I don't care as long as you don't assign / make more work for me

>>oh you're in x? what's that like? do you do a lot of y?
see above

>>108961069
you don't have to care, that's the point. you just have to say stuff

>>108961095
I don't want to say stuff. I don't want to talk to people.

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>>108961069
>>108961106
This man has hijacked my thread shoot him

>>108961191
>south park reference
millennials are painfully unfunny

>>108961199
Don’t blame millinials for my problems

crazy to think that if I was born a decade later I would be a kick streamer millionaire with a degree in jestergooning
instead im unemployed

>>108960444
based bird and based locals

>>108960520
I agree. Everyone is in a frenzy, high strung, or slobs

t. shredded, self aware, solitary white man who feels alienated when visiting costco

What's a good job after it all the tech fizzles out? Selling second hand legos?

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Has anyone ever lied about their past employment and still landed a job?
Asking for a friend :^)

I got fired after 5 months

>>108961395
yeah I told them I used my A+ cert in my last job but I actually didn't

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>>108961199
>when zoom zoom sees a reference that isnt five nights at freddy's or fortnight
dont eat a tidepod about it now libtard

That feedback is surreal. To have a 14-year career built on architecture, system reliability, and leadership reduced to "AI prompting efficiency" is a bizarre sign of the times. You are not alone, but you’ve hit the bleeding edge of a highly concentrated industry trend.
### The Industry Split
Right now, there is a distinct schism in engineering cultures:
* **The Hyper-Optimizers:** Some companies value raw code volume over system design. They want **orchestrators** to churn out boilerplate via tools like Cursor or Copilot. To them, careful, manual engineering looks "slow," even if the resulting architecture is vastly superior.
* **The Pragmatic Majority:** Mature organizations still evaluate you on *outcomes*—reliability, velocity, and soundness. They care that the system works and scales, not whether you whispered the perfect prompt to get there.
### Misunderstanding Seniority
Your leadership team confused **code generation velocity** with **engineering capacity**.
Your value lies in knowing *what* to build, *how* it breaks, and how it scales. AI is excellent at syntax, but terrible at architectural foresight, subtle race conditions, and deep domain logic. Optimizing for "prompting efficiency" values short-term output over long-term systemic health.
### Moving Forward
1. **Separate Worth from the Metric:** Being labeled a "mediocre prompter" doesn't diminish your capability. It just means you didn't optimize for a specific, arguably short-sighted corporate mandate. Your backend and debugging expertise remain incredibly scarce, premium skills.
2. **Screen Future Teams:** Use this to vet your next role. Ask: *"How does the team balance AI tool utilization with deep architectural design and long-term maintainability?"*
Take a breath, shake off the absurdity of their phrasing, and find an organization that values a foundational architect over a fast typist.

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>>108961494

>I'm studying for my interview
What did bro mean by that?

>>108961438
Was it your fault?

>>108961602
he meant to say he's a low IQ amerimutt

>>108961602
in burgerstan where there's actual meritocracy and interviews aren't jestermaxxing rituals, it usually goes something like this
>what does x keyword do
>whats the point of using y
>why would you use x over z
>what happens when you deinit k but it still has a reference to j
>okay now solve this leetcode hard

Pretending to be busy in the office is excruciating, there's only so much you can do

>>108961634
Isn't that the point of college? My interviews are normally talking about projects I worked on and seeing if I'm a good fit for the company. Imagine solving quizzes like a muppet for interviews lol.

>>108961634
>in burgerstan where there's actual meritocracy and interviews aren't jestermaxxing rituals, it usually goes something like this
>>what does x keyword do
>>whats the point of using y
>>why would you use x over z
>>what happens when you deinit k but it still has a reference to j
>>okay now solve this leetcode hard
is that why they end up hiring pajeets?

>in burgerstan where there's actual meritocracy and interviews aren't jestermaxxing rituals
the fucking irony lmao

>>108961656
are euromutts really this retarded
so what happens if
>they didn't go to college
>they made up all of their stories
now you're stuck paying this guy until you can find his replacement and fire him.
a 45 minute leetcode interview could've fixed this. why would anyone let you near their databases if you can't write a simple sql query or reverse a linked list?

I won't hire anyone who can't write a red-black tree

I won't hire any filipinos.

>>108961673
based
>>108961682
flips are bros.

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I don't know what a red-black tree is

>>108961749
pathetic...

I won't hire any of you, fags.

Hey Claude, make a red black tree with this data
Now make it white blue

>>108960273
That bird is probably shitting itself thinking it's been caught by a bird of prey

>>108960467
>like choosing to not learn excel
Worst example ever, because 99% of all office workers, who still will evaluate themselves as "very good" or "above average" Excel users, still can't do more than calculate sums and create a pie chart.

>>108962230
to be fair you need a high iq to understand excel

Reading about people who managed to find a job after college wanting to kill themselves because of their work or getting fired for something that wasn't their fault is extremely cathartic.

I have 10 days before i start reserves military training until 31 july, and then I'll start working as a governmental cooperative store manager in bumfuck nowhere

What can i do to make myself happy instead of just scrolling and jerking off all day like what ive been doing for the last 1,5 years

>>108960358
>I’m not forever going to be the weirdo that makes everyone uncomfortable right?
Not necessarily, but it's like a 600lbs fatass trying to get fit. It will take years of work and slow progress. In their case staying motivated is also easier because fat loss can be measured and tracked objectively, while in your case a wave of depression can make it all seem pointless.

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>>108961499
>>108961199
>tech illiterate zoomoid has an opinion when xe can’t even operate an air fryer without breaking down into tears
kekaroo

>>108962227
birds are quite smart they can tell the difference if you teach them. But they won't stop shitting everywhere.

>>108960969
>>108960283
these stories arent real, completely fabricated bullshit to spread fud about the shitter economy

>Apply for a junior ios developer role at mcdonalds
>90k a year in chicago
>perfectly meet all the requirements
>dont get an interview (or even a generic rejection email)
>3 months later their app is still a laggy piece of shit
HR roasties are causing incalculable damage to society by not letting me work.

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Best bang for buck service for agentic work? I want to have le heckin side projects and I want to have agents churning slop 24/7 while I'm busy at work. I am also considering a local model but I only have 16GB VRAM.
At work we have access to both Claude and Codex but I have no idea how much these would cost me if I ran agents all the time.

>>108962710
get a life you unfunny faggot

>>108962682
Any time I open the McD app it flashes white then disappears and I have to open it a second time
Very sloppy, just like their food shaped sludge

>>108962710
if this isn't ironic get good with local agents
try to figure out how to work with low power agents you can run with your VRAM
(getting gpus and running them in parallel could also be a fun side project if you have the cash)
Copilot already started charging per token yesterday, all other services will follow suit and only increase their prices more
Don't rely on any of these services for your work
I predict in the future companies will be looking for people that know how to work with agents more economically to limit context windows and token burn

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>have interview in an hour
>decide to look up company more thoroughly
>it's a "we're one big family!" company with cringe end-of-year party photos in their webpage
>immediately get cynical about them
great "family" you guys got there, care to explain why you're overhiring again when your linkedin page is showing you're bleeding people i.e. you're laying off your "family members"

>>108960552
I'm leaving a great paying job for my womban. My situation is a little different, but when I was just a journeyman and asked a senior manager, let's call him Rory, about advice - he told me to not give a fuck about this company we work in and focus on family. The more I see workaholics spend their life working 14+ hours for close to my pay, the more I realize how right he is.

>6 hours until i can leave

My sale chad friend makes 50-70% more than me

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I'm thinking of just riding my bicycle outside every day, there's nothing I can do to improve my situation.
I don't have friends or a girlfriend and I hate talking t opeople.
I can't get a better job because no one will hire me because I'm not paricularly good at anything. My job is sucking my soul out with 8+3 hours unpaid overtime 6 days a week, but maybe it's better than not having a job.
I'm also balding and ugly with a fat ass, maybe a a bike will massage my prostate just right,

>>108963093
millennials be like
>ive done nothing with my life at 35
>let me find some larp physical hobby to waste all my time

>>108963100
Wow yeah those stupid millennials with their…hobbies

You ever think that you spend too much time on the internet and it’s made you a little bit retarded?

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>>108963093
can't go wrong with doing anything physical, just don't become a straight up faggot cyclist, it's not gonna help your case

>>108963120
you're the 3rd person to break down and rant about some retarded physical hobby because of an existential criss brought by work this month
the last retard was sperging about running a superman

>>108963100
physical activity is one of the best kind of pastime, improving both physical and mental well being

>>108963138
oh shit
you're right, that looks like a pattern

>>108963120
>a little bit retarded
That's a pretty charitable way of describing these mulatto broccoli creatures.

>>108963138
What’s retarded about running an Ironman?

>>108963129
I definitely won't become a faggot cyclist, but I will definitely become a faggot cum guzzler

>>108963146
massive cope
if you're a loser depressed because your life is shit then working out an hour a day isn't going to make it better
whether you can bench 135 or 225 or run a 5 minute mile or 10 minute mile isn't going to change your 2 hour commute and 12 hour workdays at the jeetdesk

>>108963165
post body incel

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>>108963165
doing physical activity in nature, such as biking through a forest instead of looking at screens sitting between empty walls, can change your attitude towards other things, including work and commute

>"adapt to AI or die!!!"
Yet why would no one hire me / give me interviews after i completed their take home tests and projects entirely using AI?

>>108963165
So tell me what's going to make it better?

>>108963232
at some point we just have to accept multi-step long interviews will never stop being retarded

>>108960387
>I got fired, my visa expired, I didn't get green card or citizenship in 12 years

Fellas, the director who interviewed me yesterday is apparently buddies with the CEO of my current company, am I being fired?

What is better: to be born white, or to overcome your brown nature though great effort?

>>108960831
Yes, nazis usually flee to Argentina.

>>108962258
No wonder you're unemployed.

>>108963093
Cycling would be perfect for a faggot like you. Slay queen!

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was scheduled for a job interview yesterday, over Google video, and it completely failed to detect Linux, Chromebook and Android platforms and kept pushing some bullshit .msi package at me to install. needless to say, the interview did not happen because of this
I just want to go live on a farm at this point

>>108963341
Meant for >>108963367

>>108963165
>fatass nigga from utwg comes to troll the wagies because he cant get a job
you should kill yourself NOW

a horror movie called "job interview"
an unemployed 22 year old cs grad sends out 200 applications only to get a single interview
the interviewer is an indian with a thick bangladeshi accent. after the interview is over the zoomer goes to mcdonalds. the drive thru worker is indian. then he goes to costco. everyone is indian.

>>108960552
>>fiancee has to move ~3 hours away and wants me to follow
Consider that you will lose her either way in this situation. Have you tried lifting up your skirt and grabbing your balls?

Ahhhh chatgpt is down

>>108963424
from the creator of the backrooms...
this summer
GOLEMTOPIA*
please read preceding lines in movie guy voice :)

>>108963424
forgot the part where he goes on hinge and only gets shown fat girls

>>108960283
>The feedback I received was essentially: “You’re an exceptional software engineer, but a mediocre AI-prompting software engineer.”
You're a geriatric with low neuroplasticity and you've been left behind. Your 9001 quadrillion years of putrefaction haven't prepared you enough for AI, it seems.

>>108960358
Learn to be fake like the normalfags. You don't actually need to be nice or happy. They aren't being truly nice to you, it's just something they learned to do. The other thing you need to do is to avoid being too nice, or you'll seem like a people pleaser or creep.

>Bring up something to the team
>welp guess it's your responsibility to fix it now
Anyways to stop this from happening? Most of the time it's out of scope for me. I guess you can "single" someone out to fix it but it's just dude don't make me be the middleman for everything that's stupid.

>>108960358
I get it, I can converse normally when I'm "normal" but most of the times I burned out and I really want everyone to gtfo. Don't want to talk to any of you because you push me a little and I'm going to start ranting about how stupid this fucking company is lol

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>>108963610
No lol. Who wants to do work someone brought up as a "Good Idea" you have to be a manager to swing something like that around.

it's a small ass thing but starting to get annoyed with our level 1 IT at our company doing "Enter your description of your issue" -> get them in the chat -> "Hi, welcome to the help desk, how can I assist you today?" I know it's their template but come the fuck on that shit's annoying, I already fucking gave you the issue don't make me retype it. wonder if they see the first description or if it dies on the spot.

>>108963666
It's less of a "good idea" it's more of
"hey this shit is a huge ass fucking hole in the middle of the street, can we at least work together to get it fixed"
>"yeah anon! can you talk to xyz and see if they can get it fixed"
>talk to XYZ to see if we can get it fixed
>they leave me stranded or "durrr nothing i can do im retarded sorry"
>shrug my shoulders and just go welp I tried.
>tell my team/boss that they didn't do shit
>"oh welll" :(
>it becomes a HUGE issue later
>ANON DID IT GET FIXED???? DID XYZ FIX IT YET????
rinse and repeat. I hate dealing with shit that's out of my circle because this fucking shit always fucking happens.

>>108963687
In that case it's your shitty work environment. My company lets me fix things and will assign help to fix it. But "Good Ideas" are entirely on me. Sorry anon i feel bad for you.

>>108963675
>mfw they just give me the internal documents on THEIR side to do their tier 1 shit
>"Yeah, uh I can't really do this I don't have access to your tools"
>"Did you check the section on the middle of the page? (the section I just fucking mentioned)"
holy fuckkkkkkkkk fuck this company I'm seething so fucking hard.

>>108963716
Man, I have a work event in person soon and I'm going to see XYZ team soon and they act fake nice and shit but I'm pretty bad at hiding my emotions and the fake nice shit triggers me even more.

>>108963273
imagine being american kek

>>108960831
>>108963316
ironically, Argentina is also full of (zionist) jews.

>>108963687
your boss is a coward

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big interview today
I hope i'm ready

>>108963859
I hope you fail, fuck leetcoders

feels like I'm losing my damn mind working here and I really want to go for 1-2 week break (probably told this here before) but last few weeks I've been covering my coworkers stuff and the big boss been like "thanks to everyone covering! if you have any automation ideas to streamline (X) and (Y)'s work, let me know!". They did the same shit last year and (X) back then got laid off.
I'm straight tweaking on almost every email though, people give so little information, they're vague, using the wrong process, they don't know what the fuck they want and I keep getting dragged into chaos. Then when I do shit people go "DURRR IM RETARDED I DUNNO WHAT IM DOING." "Did I help? :D"

>>108963902
Why do you need a break? Don't you work from home?

>>108963910
Yeah being on house arrest is nice as they slowly corrupt my space man.
Fuck dude I wanna touch some grass.

>>108963873
let me guess, either 36 years old or 50k TC

All these cocksuckers college students keep adding me on linkedin for a "quick chat" since I'm an alumni and the only advice I really have (they won't like it). RUN! FUCKING DONT GET INTO CORPORATE! JUST POCKET ALL YOUR MONEY PUT EVERYTHING ON BLACK AND IF YOU LOSE, well that's game over. IF YOU WIN THOUGH YOURE FREEEEEE

>>108963687
Next time don't say anything unless it's specifically your scope

>>108963974
The problem most of the time it is my scope, like it impacts my operations but I usually work around it. Anytime I go on vacation though - they freak out though because my cover (boss) always forgets what the workaround is (but honestly the workaround is a huge pain in the ass anyways).
Stupid fucking outsourced dev teams though. Incompetent fucking retards driving me actually insane.

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>>108963969
Send them recruitment websites for the US military. They have a degree and the US needs Warrant officers & Officers so having a technical degree puts them on top of the pile for whatever job they want.

>>108960358
the answer is alcohol.

>>108960283
>implying the faggots making firing decisions know anything about AI or how to understand any results given to them
Fake and gay.

>>108963784
Software men getting mad at helpdesk is the funniest fucking shit. Every enterprise I worked in where I was a helpdesk slave (long time ago) software men never had a genuine reason to contact helpdesk.
>I need website unblocked
So talk to security
>but I need a ticket
Make one bitch
>you do it
I will and it will say I told you to raise a fucking ticket with security. Faggot

>>108964062
>checks token quota usage
>sees anon has low token usage
>hm, he must not be a good worker!
>fired

>>108964078
>checks token quota usage
They don't know how to do anon you're giving them too much credit.

>>108964076
I mean it's all fun in games until those dumbshits decide to push an unstable shit and workflows and it breaks most of my applications :/
fucking microshit

>senior manager turns 50 today
>all of the execs have a party in the upstairs office and invite the office level workers
>its a giant buffet of like $2000 worth of food
man they had salmon and tuna and guac in those cracker cups and prosciutto laying around and everything
i still feel like a meek poorfag whenever i see shit like this

>>108964004
That's a tough spot then. As long as you covered your ass there's not much you can do. I get into similar situations where I just do hack workarounds for everything and also useless people who never hold up their end of anything.
I have no idea how normie colleagues even get anything done desu. Like the concept of an ssh tunnel or nat is just incomprehensible to them.

>working for an igaming company
>frontend devs complaining that they got scolded for not using more AI
>heard them say they already used it as much as they can
>if it's solving the problems for them what else is left for it to do
>now they're thinking of writing some prompt for the AI to use more tokens on a daily basis for absolutely no other reason than to spend more money
AI is such a joke lmao

>>108964078
yeah just had a call yesterday with my manager's manager, and it as just lowkey telling me "just keep trying until it gives you what you want" .. they probably look at some reports and it shows we are not at the top burning tokens. we dont even do development

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>Too dumb to increase my skillset and get a better paying job.
>Just smart enough to realize I'm too dumb
Feels bad man
I'm going to be an entry level IT forever

>>108964309
Do you want to? My whole career has me so jaded of the tech career, I want to set it on fire.

>>108960467
>>108960817
>>108963518
>replying to a reddit post made by an LLM

>>108964320
Part of me wants to so I can make more money, but at the same time I'm in a fairly comfy job position as it is. I get okay pay and benefits for what I do and get to slack off a decent amount too. But I am tryintg to save for a house but my pay just isn't cutting it right now among other things.

>>108964357
>house
give up

>>108964357
>wageslave and save for a house
that doesn't make any sense

>task that should take like 30 minutes turns into a weeklong odyssey because our build process sucks ass and there have been over 20 parallel attempts into making it better but they all have major showstoppers
Please kill me, firmware development is hell

>>108963969
its so sad people do this. 0 tact "networking" where they just add you and soft beg for a job. no i do not know anybody who is hiring. no i do not have any advice. wait actually, my only advice is to use that little brain of yours to find a career that doesnt have every fucking retarded zoomer in the world trying to pursue it.

>ohhh but i have passion, i actually like tech. im actually smart
no you dont, no you arent. you are average. employers dont care how LE PASSIONATE you are. employers are committing h1b fraud and hiring in network only, or extremely experienced individuals within their exact tech stack.

picture in 2 circles in your head. one circle is much larger than the other. how do you fit the large circle into the small circle without intersecting the edges or changing the shape? now imagine the large circle was the amount of retards with CS degrees, and the small circle was the amount of available jobs for the next 10 years.

ok maybe that analogy was too complicated. imagine the job market was a game of musical chairs. it's the first round of the musical chairs. there's 10 times more people than chairs. the music stops and you find out almost half of the people (actual study data btw) that sat were indians. better luck next time you stupid fuck.


with all that being said, to any anons studying cs reading this, i dont mean you of course. you are le pessionate and le talented (despite no evidence in your life ever pointing to anything liek this). take out 40k of debt to study computer science. its the best decision you will ever make.

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>>108964373
As opposed to doing what?
Like I said, I'm too dumb to increase my skillset.
Which also means I'm too dumb to cheese moneymaking schemes like stocks or whatever.
My only chance right now is to take advantage of my living situation (living with parent) and save money. Also maybe hopefully find a girlfriend who would be interested in pooling our resources and getting a house or something.

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>make kind of a joke post to my link*d*n followers that I might as well just open my own company if the job market is this bad
>100 applications in under 24 hours
WHAT?

>>108964100
Piss on the salmon.

>>108963955
Shove it up your ass, you dumb nigger fizzbuzz faggot.

>>108963849
Of course, they're similar.

>>108964407
fuck lol right? I remember some dimwit added me because he was changing programs and wanted my opinion on the program (mine was more of a hybrid program) I did and I was like "nah brother like actually you should stay in your current program if you're looking for x,y,z roles. The actual technical component of the courses are useless and you can do self learning" and this bitch ass just ignored my advice and went "NOOOO BUT I REALLY LIKE TECH, I GUESS SOME PEOPLE WOULD FEEL LIKE THAT, I HEARD IT WAS ACKTUALLY PRETTY GOOD."

Fuck you brat. I hope you eat shit with your dog shit courses.

Since wfh I completely neglect my style and even a lot of hygiene. I work out and shower so I don't smell but
>neck beard
>unibrow
>rarely cut hair (do it myself, can get it pretty good tho)
>don't shower until noon
>long nails
>pajama pants all day
On one hand might as well be comfy, and I used to shower in the morning and then shit at the office, that's nasty. On the other hand it puts me in a weird vibe where I'm just sloppy 24x7.
How do I strike a balance?

>>108964501
>rarely cut hair (do it myself, can get it pretty good tho)
I don't trust you.

Go outside, touch grass literally.

>>108964505
You don't believe me that I can cut hair? It's pretty easy, I did my dad's hair during and then even after the big coof.

>teams meeting
>18/20 people have their camera off
>jeet that isnt even talking has his camera on
>hes on a treadmill, walking
why are they like this

>>108964511
post it

>>108964482
this is such a common thing teenagers and young adults do. they want to pretend they are seeking out information and advice like theyre using it to analyze their choices. what theyre actually doing is looking to reaffirm a decision that isnt good. they probably know it isnt a good decision too but theyre overriding it mentally.
there are people in these very threads who often ask advice relating to it and just ignore it completely. theres probably a dude in here right now who is probably on his first year of CS who is just riding it out like its a winning lotto ticket. no amount of information could convince him to change careers. when he graduates hes going to saddled with crazy debt and end up working something completely unrelated.
its so stupid it bothers me. middle class retard shit. if they grew up in poverty they would know never to do something this retarded and get serious about life.

average boomer advice
>you like tech? well you should give up in programming and go be a plumber. thats where the money is.

>>108964553
Yeah I was like 100% sure he was just looking for validation. But wouldn't say it didn't work out for him, saws he got a pretty good job at a bank but you know THOSE people get jobs pretty easily (not even talking about jeets)

>>108964571
Program if you love it sure, but you have to go the extra mile for it and honestly don't do any stupid retarded hybrid programs like I did where it's half technology, half business.

>>108964424
at least put some of it in a vanguard US or world ETF

>>108963969
I stopped giving them free advice when I realized none of them even bother to say thanks. They just want free shit.

I'm so happy I convinced my manager to stop using LeetCode. I love seeing the leetards suffer during interviews; they know all about le fizzbuzzers, but when you ask them to actually make something, they struggle. I have no idea why memorizing patterns became the norm for interviews.

>>108964571
you're taking out tens of thousands of dollars of debt for a degree that has almost no value. the only thing that could possibly change that would give you a decent chance at a job is if they stop h1b fraud and send literally half of them back home. that wont happen.
>b-but i "like" technology!
cool you can still like it in your spare time. the odds are shit for breaking in now unless you know somebody or do something actually exceptional.
or if youre a middle class retard who doesnt want to get serious about life, you can run the odds on it. i would bet you 80% of grads are either unemployed or employed in something unrelated to their degree. feel free to look up actual numbers

but youre le passionate so that wont happen! not passionate enough to be putting in 40 hr weeks attempting to contribute to a foss project though.

>>108964596
Nigga I don't know what the fuck you're talking about

>>108964571
plumbing is stupid, for each year you work there you get 2 years of pain when you get older

Since we're talking about this anyways, I'm burnt outta tech and I want to get out of being forced to Dev/PM/BA/Devops all at once. Anywhere I can go that's less of this? I was thinking data but even that's getting a little of a bad field because of AI. HR SaaS? Can't imagine too much AI retardation there.

Tech is fucking stupid, I'm getting into finance or ideally, government.

>>108961634
You mean jeetcodemaxxing. Because every American company enjoys torturing their candidates with Algorithm I questions.

>>108960273
That's an ex-parrot.

>>108964604
>fizzbuzz
imagine being this retarded that you think leetcode is fizzbuzzes
yeah great job, instead of assessing a candidates programming skills and logical thinking, youre addressing their memorization abilities.
>hey can you spend 20 minutes in the interview setting up this project environment? youll have to do this like once every 4-5 months on the job btw

>>108964608
This is a demoralization call center drone.

>>108963936
Touch deez nuts.

>>108963093
>I'm also balding
The answer is fin/dut and a HT but baldies always tend to self-sabotage.

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>>108964609
>wtf is an x, I'm dumb
Look anything up on investopedia:
https://www.investopedia.com/etfs-4427784
>ETFs are baskets of stocks or bonds that trade like regular stocks. They're usually passively managed, meaning they seek only to match the underlying benchmark index.
i.e. a bunch of faggots picked the stocks for you. Sometimes they use meme lists like the S&P 500 stock market index (pic rel).
Pick one US or world ETF, like the ones from Vanguard. And go all in. The idea is to leave it there for months at least, ideally years.
Boomers will say you should split 40% into bonds but don't worry about that for now. You're gonna want to read this boomer advice:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Bogleheads%C2%AE_investment_philosophy
The rest is up to you.

>>108964651
if it takes you 20 mins to setup and env then you aren't a good fit LMAO

>>108964604
My company does reasoning about codebases.

I'm in tech consulting, manager, and they want me to pivot to being a "foward deployed engineer" fucking kill me.

>>108961199
zoomGODs dunking on miBETAllials

>>108961199
retard

>>108961199
south park sucks, I hate it because it made fun of wow neckbeards

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I heckin love when engineering KPIs are blatantly unrealistic but not a single manager pushes back against them. Yeah sure nigga I'll definitely spam 2/3 different people to review my PR every 5 minutes in order not to ruin our team's review to launch KPI where the benchmark is apparently 4 hours????? Nigger what fuck is this and where did they get it from lmao I wouldn't even dare to remind or escalate someone for not replying to me in the same day. now I'm forced to imagine how obnoxious people will be acting because even a random lunch break or taking a shit can get you escalated for ruining the heckin KPIs kek

>>108964671
this is someone currently employed as a dev who took up cs when it had the reputation as one of the highest job demand in the country.
it looks excessive to blackpill this much. im hoping that a dumb teenager or someone looking at cs as a means to escape poverty sees the post and wakes up. taking out loans to get a cs degree is just about certain to set you back financially a decade or more. its one of the worst decisions you could make financially.
more than half of recent grads outright are unemployed or working in a position that requires no experience.
but hey now... its just advice... you can do whatever the FUCKKKKKKK you wanna do.

>>108964866
im from your 2000s high school, ur face is gonna meet mr trashcan

>>108964608
Can't believe our industry has gone to hell like this, 12 years ago was a peak I'll never get back

what are jeets doing in south florida? FUCK

>>108964923
Trump is under the belief that spics like you aren't diverse enough anymore so the country needs more jeets. Make America Indian again!

am i retarded or just coping since i think that saving significant amount of money for retirement seems pointless? i see people hoping to retire on like a few million in their 30s and i'm thinking there's no way that can allow you to live for the next 70 years without providing any benefit to the economy aside from sitting on your wealth. i mean i'm sure it's possible if you are incredibly smart with investment but i don't think chucking your entire net worth into gold and the S&P500 will work out in the long term

like i think eventually the boomers and gen x will start liquidating their assets in an attempt to keep living via expensive medical care, which i assume will be such an influx of liquidity that we will see the past 20 years of various quantitative easing and deficit spending shenanigans materialize into its true endgame form, which i believe is just pure, unadulterated common inflation. at around the same time, millenials and gen Z (who generally don't own shit) will become the biggest voting block and they'll vote in laws that favor them. and imo that would mean a long downtrend in asset prices or uptrend in real costs like labor and stuff, whichever way you prefer to look at it

>>108964925
the spanish is already driving me fucking insane and now we have bands of roaming jeets walking around the halls of my job FUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK

>>108964608
Gee, it's almost like every tech position requires a bachelors before they'll even look at your application. But yeah, it's the fault of those stupid 18 year olds who think they have a chance at social mobility, right? Fucking retard.

>>108964933
>generational tribalism
Yes it's quite likely that you are retarded
Try to think of people as people instead of static arbitrary age groups

>>108964958
why reply to a topic you don't understand at all?

>>108964963
I think I know more than enough on this subject to see how the Js are playing you

>>108962235
You mean turbo autist with the narrowest of minds

Idk why you guys are angry jeets. It's usually the white boomers or arab middle managers that get me going. Yeah jeets are useless but they have no power on you. THESE fuckers tho...

>>108964970
>you need to think of everyone as an individual otherwise da joooz are tricking you!!
this is what happens when you give retarded libshits access to pol

>>108964970
huh? what do jews have to do with this

you have to be truly retarded or disingenuous to suggest that people are exactly as well off regardless of age, when the government explicitly singles out old people as eligible for free neetbux, tax breaks and other benefits just because they are old

>>108964951
they do. refer to the circle analogy if understanding demand is too complicated. something like half of all cs grads are unemployed or underemployed.
getting a cs degree to work in a factory is not social mobility. in fact its a very good way to be financially crippled indefinitely.
there are careers that make 6 figures with OT which are actually in demand right now.

My boss threatened to fire me today

>>108964100
Remember: It was paid for by extracting your life force for measly pay

>>108965029
Did you suck his dick?

>>108964985
majority of the ctos and ceos for tech companies are indians. they come from one of the most racist places in the entire world. they only hire their own. people should be mad at them. their in group preference is so strong that they are probably the cases where only company in the last 40 years to successfully be litigated for being uninclusive to whites.

>>108961459
Ha I meant like more duration of past employment haha...

>>108965062
oh cool, mine is white and they do the exact same fucking shit. oh in fact it's better, they outsource like almost half the company despite being a national icon so LOL. maybe we should make this a class thing rather than a race thing.

>>108965010
Yeah people accrue income and net worth as they age (if they don't piss it all off like retards) but
> boomers and gen x will start liquidating their assets in an attempt to keep living via expensive medical care
Protip: people are retiring all the time including now

>>108964996
This isn't pol and da jooz are indeed tricking you

>>108965080
>Protip: people are retiring all the time including now
ok here are my protips:
1) the average baby boomer is only 69 years old. they haven't even begun to get truly fucked up from old age
2) there are a lot of baby boomers and gen x. they are 40% of the population. and boomers alone have 50% of the wealth in the country.
3) medical science has advanced and will continue to advance to the point that old people won't just croak from a random flu or cancer or something, instead they'll get treatment and continue to live older and older, also becoming more and more reliant on treatment. we are going to see the percentage of retired people increase because people will keep retiring but will generally stop dying

desu i don't really expect you to be like "huh i guess you have a point". 90% of the time i show like really obvious facts that anyone can look up, and apply basic causality and logic with them, people tend to reject them wholesale and will call me a tranny or something. because using logic instead of going by vibes is considered gay among a number of parts in the world

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>>108965078
offshoring isnt same as the blatant h1b fraud.
you can bury your head in the sand and make it a le proletariat thing all you want. some groups of people are acting on race and ethnicity, often explicitly. thats only because they dont understand the enemy is actually a mental image of a monopoly man on a yacht. we should like unionize fellow comrade.

>have you ever been fired or reprimanded by an employer in the past 5 years?
so what if i get fired thats like the mark of the beast and i can never get a job again?

>>108965138
offshoring gets just as bad.

Realizing now that my career peaked 2 years ago when I mentored a Chinese girl a year younger than me that I cherished like a daughter for her internship. I will never have that again and it pains me

>>108965135
You're kind of right on 3, but if you look at life expectancy charts the US has been stagnating for the past 15 years (and in fact went way down 4 years ago). Probably going to rise though

For 1 and 2 you'd have to prove to me that it's significantly different from 10 or 20 years ago because just throwing numbers out of context doesn't give me much

>>108965237
life expectancy dropped mostly because of overdose deaths and automobile deaths. overdose deaths rose to something ridiculous like >100k yearly in the late 2010s. its gone down but people are still dropping like flies. automobile deaths have gone up considerably and this continues to rise. despite all of the safety improvements since the 70s, our vehicle fatality rates are higher now. a lot of that is because of dumb junkies and people texting while driving. some of it is the rising popularity of car culture with young brown people. they like to race.

https://youtu.be/DmU9uovmT2A
Bros, my company is pretty much behaving like vidrelated (and it's not a small company either)....

What do?