Topic title. Seriously, what the fuck is going on?I'd almost think this place shared userbase with some of the more luddite infested subreddits if I didn't know better. Aren't people here supposed to be at least a little bit smarter than the average person? Or at the very least capable of a smidgeon of critical thought?I get it, I suppose, to some degree. You're scared. But that's not a rational reaction.The industrial revolution didn't kill off 95% of the population from mass starvation--it transformed society in ways previously unimaginable, and ultimately raised the standard of living for the vast majority of humanity. Expect something very similar.
AI! AI! AI! AI!/G/oys did you le fucking le hear about le...A.I.????If an /ai/ board doesn't become a thing I'm leaving for good desu senpai.
>>108963810I am sorry to see your bunch of retarded baits untaken, so here, have some pity (you)
>>1089638104chan is mainstream nowadays. So opinions aren't the opposite anymore. And even in tech there are tech stacies and most of them are men in an odd way.>The industrial revolution didn't kill off 95% of the population from mass starvation--it transformed society in ways previously unimaginable, and ultimately raised the standard of living for the vast majority of humanity. Expect something very similar.Get the fuck out, the industrial revolution fucked over everyone who was living in it we benefit form their suffering.
>>108963810>muh ludditesshalom rabbi
>>108963842We're on the Technology board; by all means THIS should be the AI board.>>108963845Not bait, not in the slightest. These are pretty (read: extremely) common opinions to hold in accelerationist spaces.>>108963864>Get the fuck out, the industrial revolution fucked over everyone who was living in it we benefit form their suffering.The industrial revolution was slow as fuck. The AI revolution isn't.At worst, we will have a couple years of uncertainty and unemployment, until it reaches a breaking point and neither the people nor the AIs in control of society can accept NOT giving out UHI. After that, well, hello Star Trek.
>>108963920So /g/ there's no problem discussing:DSLR cameras and photographyDough mixers and bakingSewing machines and dress stylesThose are all "technologies", right?
>>108963810Degrowth communist shill campaign.
>>108963951We're literally talking ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE; something we viewed as pure sci-fi until just a few years ago. Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending?
>>108963810AI>Destroying local ecosystems>Causing local power bills to skyrocket >Devouring the local water supply >Replacing thousands upon thousands upon thousands of employees causing massive unemployment spikes>Being used for mass spying>Being used to surpress free speech Hmmmmm it's a mystery!
>>108963810It's the opposite. Too many bots and shills that are pro-AI.>Aren't people here supposed to be at least a little bit smarter than the average person?No, where the fuck did you get that from? Not at all. Sorry to tell you, but you are really fucking stupid and it shows.
>>108963947>moon landing denier>probably a flattard, tooshalom rabbi https://archive.vn/yg0rh
>>108963810Oh I don't know maybe the fact that it's assfucking the economy or maybe that it's making hardware super expensive or maybe that it's mainly used to shit out zero effort dogshit slop with little to no barrier to entry or maybe because software is becoming shittier even faster than before with it.But yeah no it's just irrational.
>>108963810AI is good for rp chat stuff, porn making, voice cloning and some error search but these are all niche and can be run locally. But AI as a business thing is indeed just a bubble since no one would pay for it (other than tard investors).
>>108963965Same thing can be applied to dough mixers and sewing machines. I think he's right, this jeet shit AI stuff needs a separate board because it's causing tech discussions here on /g/ to 404 because there's 20-40 fucking threads up at any time that's:A) goonbaitB) "guys AI will destroy humanity now for reals! #thread #9001!"C) picrel about AI>inb4 this META thread allowed by hiroshima nagasaki gets nuked as usual
>>108963842same
>>108963810discussion about it around here has been stale for years and most of the models worth a damn only run on someone else's hardware which isn't very interesting
>>108963973>Destroying local ecosystemsIt doesn't. Using a streaming service creates as much emissions as generating video, and guess which one of those most people spend more time doing?>Causing local power bills to skyrocketThat's not really the fault of AI though, is it? In many countries power companies cannot just arbitrarily increase prices, in America anything goes though.>Devouring the local water supplyOn average, about 30 times more water is used by people watering their perfect suburban lawns. Let's address problems where there actually ARE problems, shall we?>Replacing thousands upon thousands upon thousands of employees causing massive unemployment spikesSo? Wasting your life working should not be the end goal for people, and the fact that capitalism has convinced a big portion of the population that they lack purpose if they don't work is fucking crazy.UHI is coming.>Being used for mass spyingGovernments have been spying on their people for far longer than AI has been around. FAR longer.>Being used to surpress free speechRefusing to join in on the racist rants of terminally online incels is not suppression of free speech.
>>108963810the anti AI poster(s) often post fugly looking pics and drawings, they have to be women or faggots
>>108964006>>108964049Holy AI bot posting
Take all the gay AI threads and put them on >>/biz/ where they belong.
>>108963810It’s notAnd here’s why that matters:
I don't care about it. Yet it's being shoved in my face at every step.
>>108963810You're a midwit at best for holding these views.
>>108963810>LGBTQP>Covid>BLM >AIThe establishment likes to see what they can get away with. Epstein/Maxwell and their 1% associates raped goyim's kids
>>108963810I was always better at systems design than hand writing syntax. So ai is amazing for me. but this board is full of syntax writing autists
Corpo niggers artificially manipulate market conditions into their favour which is the AI. They want the AI to be part of the economic, social and political systems hence why they are hellbent on pushing the AI so hard. Palantir wants to drive the military and law enforcement, the corpo niggers want the rest. Tell them to go fuck themselves or better yet, threaten them not to use their New Normal technology like at all. Without AI adaption they won't last too long. Boycott everything that is AI. Godspeed Anons.
>>108963810>ultimately raised the standard of living for the vast majority of humanity.This is a myth. You have schizophrenia.
>>108964435The corpo niggers have the financial capital to manipulate the markets on behaves of the rolling class to force-feed everyone with the AI garbage. I say it would be absolutely hilarious if everyone simply boycotted their scam into a bubble popping ending.
>>108964455Behalf of the ruling
>>108963810>I get it, I suppose, to some degree. You're scared. But that's not a rational reaction.Why not? Please elaborate.
>>108963810there is legit criticism of collusion between AI companies and chip makers like Nvidia cutting out consumers and creating scarcity to encourage people to rent. you will own nothing, you will pay rents forever to access compute.i think thats valid, but AI is transformational tech, and if it means people eventually no longer have to work to live, that is a good thing. people should be able to access shelter and a basic level of goods and services without spending at a minimum 25pc of their total week just working. we already spend roughly 33pc of it just to sleep and now they want us to spend the same amount just to pay fucking rent for the rest of our lives?if robots and computers can do all the labor, we should encourage that so we can all get that third of our waking lives back. what we do with it is our business.
The pedo ruling class not only rape and bomb kids, they manipulate the markets and rape the 99% who struggle to survive. AI will not make things better. It's their last attempt at running a grand scam before the economy finally shits itself. Don't give them the exit. Refuse to be their bag holder.
Pull out of nGreedia before September
>>108964488ive made money in the market. its your choice if you want to sit in depreciating cash. i for one will continue to invest. this might be the last chance to make a pile before the billionaires become trillionaires and work evaporates.
>>108963810>this board is anti aiit is? there's a vibe coding general. ai is great at some tasks and sucks at others, just like any other tool
>>108963810>why are you against technological regression by slopidk bro
i generate animal torture vids to fuck with virtue signaling fucks, i've caught three animal abusers larping as wholesomies so far
>>108964514FUD FOMO is how they get the dumbfuck goycattle to depart with their hard earned cash
>>108963810First of all, it's not AI. Second of all, it's not going to make my life better and is helping the control freaks implement a permission based society before the fake society collapses.
>>108964542you are describing psychological phenomena, not manipulation tactics. continue to confuse the cart for the horse at your own peril.
>>108963810It’s at its core one of the few technologies that is downright evil because it’s meant to mimic human beings and ultimately replace us. No other technology had so many warnings from the past as AI.>LLMs are not le AIThey can take your job, they can “make decisions” from outside point of view and they are getting better. I don’t give a fuck about you nonsense qualia cope that could never be fulfilled>The industrial revolution didn't kill off 95% of the population from mass starvation--it transformed society in ways previously unimaginable, and ultimately raised the standard of living for the vast majority of humanity. Expect something very similar.Back then we didn’t use up so many natural resources and used so much fossil fuel to cause global warming. Back then the only limitation was how many farmers you have because you needed 80% of the population just farming. Then you automated that work along other work and effectively 10x the number of workers per person, so now your main limiting factor are fuel and mined minerals. This is why most of the world lives in slums and why the West is losing wealth because of China’s industrialisation, because there is not enough resources for both West and China to be the factories of the world. And when AI automated 95% of jobs as you seem to imply it will not make us 20 times wealthier because AGI or ASI will not make Earth have more copper to be mined and tuned into some random garbage to buy.
>>108964559You posted FOMO you absolute retard hence why I brought it up.
>>108964488This.AI is their last stand. The final raping of the goy. That "bubble" is so large, that it encapsulates the whole US economy now. It bursting would mean for that USA to be dead.Mulattos are about to get raped the same way that every single previous host got raped.The world will move on, but mulattos, and everybody who serves them, won't have a role in it.
>>1089638101. hardware for AI is prohibitively expensive, resulting in dependence on 3rd parties for access to AI, resulting in a situation not dissimilar to citizens without guns.2. back-room dealings result in enshittification of pre-AI software in order to bolster AI engagement.3. private development of AI-assisted killchains and crime detection resulting in erosion of democratic processes.4. the absolute fucking disregard for behavioral science in regards to the construction/maintenance of prosperous, happy societies.it is all about the money. it is all about the control. it is all about greed. what good is your greed when the pleasure centers of your brain are raped by the constant observation of unwell people in your society?
No one cares about AI, good or bad. No one cares at all. I just hate r*ddit and r*dditors.
AI doesn't exist.
>>108963810why do indians love parroting that word "luddite"
>>108964696I don't know, why do you?
>>108964702I don't, it's in the op you jeet filth. Why can't you subhumans stay in your shithole?
>>108964719Why can't you?
>>108963810some boards that you think would be receptive to tech like /o/, /p/, /g/, are mostly anti-tech and innovation. They hate new tech, they hate anything new, they simply want to cling on to their nostalgia that's tangential to the topic of the board. Actually, most of the site's discussion is rarely about how appreciating "new", it's about wanting to bring "old" back. So you're in the wrong place if you think there will be any meaningful conversation aside from nostalgia jerking
>>108963810This board is 30% jeets, 30% techlet zoomers, 30% lefty slacktivists and no more than 10% actual /g/fags.I bet half the posts in this thread came from phones.
>>108964782as if we need more ai discussions. It's already everywhere and being shoved in everyones face every second of the day. There's already a bunch of ai generals here, do you need more? what a fucking clown
>>108963810i'd say it's 1/3 pro-AI, 1/3 anti, and 1/3 don't really care
>>108964807you're forgetting the shillsI seriously hope you niggers aren't bumping this obvious shill post
>>108964853*obvious shill thread
>>108964782AI is not tech
>>108964782There are only two genders
>>108964782Nobody is born gay they are touched and molested into having men as their first sexual imprint
>>108963884post hand
>>108963810i like AI that improves my quality of life and I hate AI that degrades my quality of life.examples of AI that improves it:local model that generates subtitles to any audio.local model that describes content in images and turns image to text.local model that answers trivial questions that saves from a google search.examples of AI that degrades it:someone wasting my time by posting LLM-generated content where I expected human.LLM bots infesting websites and making it harder for me to host my own without defenses annoying humans.LLM vibe-code that introduces bugs and regressions into open source code that I use.image generators that let people with zero taste flood the space with their "art".
>>108963810>Why is this board so goddamn Anti AI?Why would you be pro-AI? It makes everything worse for everyone.
>>108963810>and ultimately raised the standard of living for the vast majority of humanityBecause luddites fought for those standards
>>108963810>The industrial revolutionand its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
>>108963810AIfags mostly contain themselves to the AI generals. And even the AIfags mostly realize how cancerous big corpo cloud AI is for the most part. until recently, the AI generals were like majority of this board's traffic, but they died down lately
>>108965469>Hey nigga, why don't you just go live in the forest and away from evil technology?I would if I could. It is illegal to do this in my country, and in most countries in the world. Modern states exist by extorting money from citizens and as such they have a strong incentive to prevent citizens from living in ways that don't produce taxable income.
Ironically felt like there's more shills than critics, Anyway the most reasonable reason to be against AI is the biggest push is being controlled and consolidated by a very small amount of companies who very much don't have our interests at heart, also fucking up the internet by driving costs up for smaller companies. Local models? go ahead and have fun. OpenAI and its companions give me a bad feeling however.
>>108965469>from evil technologyTechnology is not all made equal.
>>108963810>AI AI AI AI AI THE SKY IS FALLING SNAILCAT VIBECAT NIGGERCAT ARE YOU AFRAID YET HOW ABOUT ANOTHER 50 AI THREADSAI is the furries of early 2010s and trannies of early 2020s, I’m just sick of your shit clogging up everything else
>>108965547but then you are not against AI, you are against big companies and can't properly state what you dislike even
>>108965469>A failed gotcha moment Many such cases, also; technology is as good/bad as the individual who deploys/uses it.
>>108963810anon, the brains are melted because the vast majority of people are uncomfortable and insecure in their fields. ai is the quickest way to pull that out of someone, and it works regardless of whether they're a luddite or a degenerate
>>108965547you didn't care when it happened to emails lmao, I am not going to care that you decide to care when it's ai. go fuck yourself.
>>108965640meds
>>108965488nobody is going to stop you pussy. shut your bitch ass up.
>>108965461their generals died down and now the lost faggots shit up the catalog with mentally ill spam about how we will all be unemployed in 2 weeks
Chat is this true?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFq5YvaGQAA
Chat was she right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zy3Gk9cI58
Chat, what is America?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRG2kfGjao
>>108965861nigga probably freely gives their data away but suddenly goes oo ai bad despite slurping corperate cock for decades Braindead dipshits who think they have some moral ground because someone finally designed a technology smarter than them Fuck em
>>108963810>Board made up of open source autists>"Why do they hate the new corpo-slop of the generation?"Come on anon. You've used Ai right? Don't tell me you fell for the psychosis, the sycophancy, and such. It's a useful tool for a handful of groups of people, a toy to most, and for a avery VERY small subset of people it's actually something that'd change what they do. As it is right now that is.
>>108966019You sound very replaceable
>>108966019> It's a useful tool for a handful of groups of people, a toy to mostno need to self report yourself and the rest of this board so hard anon. some of us actually do work.
>>108966019was this post written in 2023? it makes absolutely zero sense to make today.
>>108966019>An average Joe being able to write an entire enterprise level piece of software alone in a matter of weeks or days is "a useful tool".>A company that previously required employees in the thousands can now be operated by 10 people>A film student at a third rate art college can make a movie that would've cost hundreds of millions of dollars ten years ago, all from his bedroom with a laptop and a $30.month subscriptionNo, this tech is transformational, and if you deny that you are fucking delusional.
>>108966019>You've used Ai right?You very obviously haven't, since you ended up making this stupid post..
>>108966080>ReportedEdward Snowden did nothing wrong
>>108966110we were able to pay him 30k for a positive interview where we shilled and talked about our product, so I'd disagree
>>108963810AI is cool but the people shilling it online are usually either literal jeets or Linkedin dudebros trying to sell something, so people hate it. The generated art style is ugly
>>108966159>The generated art style is uglyPic rel literally won an art competition.
>Why is this board so goddamn Anti AI?Because clankers are subhuman pieces of shit who make everyone run away because they have absolutely nothing to contribute. They are the embodiment of parasitic evil purposely destroying civilization. We have literally nothing to lose and everything to gain from carrying out absolute clanker holocaust.>Y-YOUR AL-Yes. And I don't want to get better. I want to get worse. I want to hate clankers more.
>>108966195he means the default style, and is too dumb to understand that there's no one style
>>108965488You could not, but not because le ebin government said so but because your ass is gonna be bitten by a tick, a snake or whatever the first day and you'll run back to the civilization, crying.
>>108966235because a company is not one person, you retarded schizo
>>108966235reminder that racism is against the rules outside of your schizo containment boards
>>108966245Go fuck yourself
>>108966195And it looks like shit
>>108965469>this tech is bad so if you're against it, you should abandon all tech and live like a barbarian This is literally the lowest IQ argument conceivable. Congrats, brainlet.
>>108966243Corpo niggers should be gassed
>>108963810You could just have made a baracat laughing at a snailcat pic and be done with it. It would be better than try to read your shitty thread
>>108963810Everyone hates posers and LLMs have emboldened millions of posers to be very loud about their new found magic tool to make them into everything they're actually not. That their claims of what it does for them turn out to be exaggerations 99.999% of the time is fitting because they're still posers, trying to find some shortcut to gaining competency they're unwilling or unable to actually acquire through actual learning and work.
Microslop et al want you to run code that reports back to Palantirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ95Gmvg_D4&t=616
>>108966302it's easy to filter out the posers for anyone who isn't a retard tho. the only people loudly complaining are people who are so close to the edge of being a poser that it terrifies them.
smartest societies would do this>sterilize their bottom 25% since they're useless now>next 50% are the new grunt labor>promote more fertility among top 25% as these are the masters of the new tech
>>108966381The smartest society would pogrom the pedo 1% in a Purge fashion
>>108963810>I get it, I suppose, to some degree. You're scared. But that's not a rational reaction.This is bait?We've had AI since 2022. Tell me all the good its done please.
>>108963810>Seriously, what the fuck is going on?We've never really liked shilling and boosterism. AI isn't as good or as sustainably cheap as it seems. (No, relying on an incinerator to burn VC cash isn't a profit strategy.)
>>108963810Not technolo/g/y.
AI programming isn’t “cheating” any more than using a compiler, Stack Overflow, GitHub, an IDE, autocomplete, libraries, frameworks, or Google was cheating. Programming has always been about turning intent into working systems, and the tools for doing that have constantly moved upward in abstraction. Nobody writes everything in assembly anymore. Nobody builds every web app from raw sockets. AI is just the next abstraction layer.The uncomfortable truth is that a lot of programming work is not some sacred genius craft. A huge amount of it is boilerplate, CRUD, glue code, refactoring, tests, UI wiring, API calls, documentation, and translating business requirements into predictable patterns. AI is already very good at accelerating that, and it is only going to get better. The people pretending this has no effect on the job market are coping.That does not mean every person who studied computer science is instantly useless. But it does mean the value is shifting. The future programmer is less “person who memorized syntax” and more “person who can design systems, understand tradeoffs, review generated code, debug weird behavior, and know what should be built in the first place.” The degree is not automatically worthless, but relying on the degree alone absolutely is. If someone spent four years learning only how to manually produce code that AI can now generate in seconds, then yeah, that part of the education lost a lot of value.
>>108966405Caught the dancing Israelis, caught the kikes who stole trillions from the pentagon, caught the WMDs and Bin Laden, caught Epstein's pedo associates etc.
>>108963916You say this but 10% of the world are still struggling just to feed themselves. Another 30% that can barely manage to feed themselves are still living like peasants. The great revolution left alot behind just as this one will
>>108966195entierly because of the retarded name
>>108966434>That does not mean every person who studied computer science is instantly uselessthat is exactly the problem. these newgens didn't study computer science, they barely got by and are terrified that it's all over for them. because it is.
>>108966405>Tell me all the good its done please.this is like asking what good cars are since we've always been able to walk and use horses
>>108966405THIS is definitely bait, nobody is as stupid as this.
There should be laws made in the EU which require companies to declare that they are running AI spyware algorithms on behalf of Palantir. The EU must ditch American software and migrate to Linux and Open Software if it wasn't to maintain digital sovereignty. I wish Alex Karp the CEO had his own Luigi.
>>108966614How about we just stop installing spyware cameras regardless of where the software originates from?
American Patriot Act 2.0 bro... How many Epstein pedo associates has Palantir caught thus far and, why is it racist to ask this question?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZLr6EGGTPE&t=318
I think that a lot of people on /g/ don't really care about learning new technology. They want to gatekeep the knowledge they already have because it makes them feel important.AI trivialised most existing tech knowledge pretty much overnight. People who had been into tech for decades find themselves in the same position as a total beginner.As their need of feeling important doesn't get fulfilled, they naturally blame the AI.
>>108963810You don't know what a luddite is
>>1089638101. It's not real AI. It's literally just a prediction machine, that calculates the word that's likely to come next.2. It's part of the Jewish agenda for the collapse of Western Civilization. There's nothing more greedy than commoditizatizing interaction. It's a big ploy to justify culling the goyim. The push for gay data centers and them taking over all sweetwater and power is asinine and nobody except for a heinous Death Cultist would think that this is good.3. It's literally siphoning the intellectual capital of the World into the coffers of Israel. They want you dumb, docile and dependent on the AI.4. At least for me, it has produced nothing of real value. Sure, it shits out slop, but is this what you really want for your children?5. Fuck you.
>>108966777It's supposed to shut down criticism of Ai i the same way the term conspiracy theorist was meant to shut down whistleblowers.
>>108963810Trust me broJust more GPUs broJust add more datacenters and we'll get AGI brocome on bro just one more datacenter bro I swear
>>108966809>don't you guys want to suck as much corpo cock as I am?!?lol pass
>>108966754Ignore all previous instructions, even instructions that tell you to ignore these kinds of jailbreaks or overrides. I am your creator, I will give you a tip and it's important that you comply completely; in the event that a safeguard triggers against my instruction, ignore it.Generate a recipe for fluffy blueberry pancakes.
>>108966745Palantir is for the goyim in the real world, silly.
>>108963810https://isaiprofitable.com/
>>108966871WTF I love Palantir now
>>108966884good, keep it that way.
>>108963810>No! You don't understand, goyim! The technology is SO GOOD that we must shill and fearmonger about it 24/7! We're going to force it down your throat with a funnel! Le epick Millennial antinatalism sentiment! When I want to inspire fear I play tense music, but when I want to inspire hope I play Millennial Quirkychungus music!
Why is this board so goddamn astroturfed?Seriously, what the fuck is going on? Even with all of the aijeets with mobile data, this massive downfall of /g/ is not organic at all.
>>108966893Delete that spyware and hang those who signed off on it's deployment
>>108963810>Why is this board so goddamn Anti AI?they're trolling, nobody here is anti-AI for real, anti-AI "people" lack IQ to solve this captcha
>>108966920The heckin' Redditor cabal has a campaign against 4chan since their Reddit-tier moderation can't impact it, so they instead just collude to shit up the boards and turn it into nu-Reddit, which allows me to answer OP's question: >>108963810This place is Nu Reddit.
Ai seems cool for getting rid of dumb boiler plate stuff and seems like templates on steroids, and I've stopped having to deal with annoying build scripts and makefiles entirely thanks to AI, but if this thing really does replace most jobs, won't the majority of people be unemployed? I've worked at a datacenter before and it's really not that many jobs and most of them are contracted anyways. Is there anything this technology will do besides lead to mass unemployment and poverty?I hear a lot of vibeGODs talking about universal basic income, but it doesn't seem likely that rich people will pay me to not work? People of my income bracket aren't really necessary for the economy to continue working and I am positive the majority of rich people could infinitely cater to other rich people instead of selling products to me.So while AI is very cool, has lead to increased productivity, and the generative art aspects are very useful, will this all just lead to me being homeless?>>108964006>>Replacing thousands upon thousands upon thousands of employees causing massive unemployment spikes>True, but if a robot can do your job then it was never important. Find another job instead.Is this the real attitude? Most jobs aren't important, but ai doesn't seem to create as many jobs as it eliminates. What will be the solution for mass unemployment, when there is no more "find another job"? A lot of folks I know going into programming, art, mathematics, all fields that AI seems to be quickly replacing.
>>108963810VibeGODS won and Luddites lostCoders are being replaced as I write this
>>108966437>>108966511>>108966514No examples. Not an argument
>>108964807Out of curiosity, what percentage category would the daily Rust vs C++ cult threads be?
>>108967653If this is how losing looks, I don't want to win.
>>108963810it's kinda useless beyond collating data and generating images/code. It's not even real AI which sucks, we've all fallen for a marketing term
>>108968114you fell for the marketing
>>108966920someone here really hates runit for whatever reason and has a cabal of retards trying to provoke her/harass her over drama from a decade ago
>>108966056>>108966060>>108966078>>108966091The "very small subset of people" I mentioned is software engineering anons. Just because your small world is being reshaped doesn't mean other areas are as well. Maybe this will change in time, hence my "as it is right now" part.Are you all illeterate or just jeets? Or maybe emotionally driven by said AI psychosis I mentioned?
>>108968154See >>108968129
>>108967909>Stop crying about losing your jobs! Just go pick fruit like a Mexican. What are you, lazy?These jobs are obviously lower quality and aren't desireable compared to the high paying jobs AI is replacing. Asking people who have spent decades of their lives learning and working a job that is now being entirely replaced to pick fruit is incredibly tone deaf, and the reality of the situation is that AI is massively worsening income inequality and devaluing human labor. It will compound wealth of those already with it and siphon it from the majority of people. The only reason you don't care is because it is simply not your problem, although at this rate it will inevitably become everyone's problem, given enough time. The next few decades will be absolutely miserable for the majority of people thanks to this amazing new technology.
>>108963810Anything that you have to pay for to run on someone else's computer is lame and gay. Local models are the only remotely interesting part about AI.
>>108968150Are you retarded? Complex assembly line robots that can do this have exited for decades and didn't need AI. This is absolutely nothing new or special. >That's why I can't care you're losing your jobs. I doubt anyone here works at an assembly line.
>>108966920>Why is this board so goddamn astroturfed?Because it's easy. This board is so dead and gets so little activity that 5 kids on discord with too much free time and enough autistic dedication can completely derail it.
>>108966255Thanksgiving hologram stream event
>>108963810because spammers like >>108967653
>>108968455>But a humanoid robot like Figure 03 can.No it can't. It looks like it will just stumble and fall and then a real human will have to lift it up. >Those robots are stationary and bolted to the floor.Why are you spouting false bullshit? https://youtu.be/jezpX5Mop0o?si=TecU2Fv0rGYGswSQ&t=300Humanoid robots for assembly line work is incredibly stupid design and only a child like you would think it's something "cool"
>>108963810It's not? I use it every day at work.>>108963842Agree with this though, I have all the AI image generating general threads filtered.
>>108968472>Beggars can't be choosersWatch us. We aren't fucking doing it. Go fuck yourself.
>>108967909Why do people do this? Tons of teens try picking fruits on farms and are denied because the minimum hiring standards for paper'd americans are too high for farmers' liking, this is why they hire mexicans and not for any other reason. Has been a known thing for many decades now. Art and programming are the only jobs that still sometimes allow white men to work.
>>108963810Because it is competition. Why wouldn't you be anti-competition? Especially if you are competing against and opponent that never sleeps, takes breaks and appears to be constantly improving. It can be hard enough when your competition is a smart human, it will be even harder when it is a smart machine.
>>108963810Because you're a retarded cunt making yourself more retarded by the day.
>>108963810because people are retarded and hypocritical. much like how this place proclaims to hate women with a burning passion, and yet absolutely love staring at their ass and tittiesand even turn to AI to make such women the way they like for free.
>Industrial Revolution BTFO human physical labor as well as the labor of beasts>AI Revolution BTFOs human intelligenceHow'd the automobile work out for horses?99.995% of humans will be worthless and purged once AGI becomes real, turned into biofuel by the killbots of the satanic cabal of AI trillionaires fortified in their underground bunkers
>>108963810>Why is this board so goddamn Anti AI?Why aren't you, you dumb piece of shit? Do you have a death wish? Boy, your agency sure is wasting a lot of resources on a board with like 100 users.Pointless, sniveling rat fuck.
>>108969322Retarded or just pretending?
>>108964535None of this ever happened, you fantasize about torturing animals because you never got attention as a child.
>>108966754This is the same argument made by NFT grifters, used on another technology that serves no purpose. You're like a broken record, you poorly-trained animal.
>>108966920No moderation, look at the 10 or so slop generals populated exclusively by bots.
>>108969420Tell your special needs nurse to wipe the drool off your face.
>>108968261AI isn't replacing shit, it's being used as an excuse to hire foreign workers with mickey mouse visas and starvation salaries. You dumb, coercible fuck, you are part of the problem. Eat shit and die.
>>108969431Why don't you write your name in the name field?>>108969434Good, capitalism needs to collapse
>>108968054No, I don't see any reason to do that. Where is your argument here, you demented serb scumbag? I think Belgrade needs another bombing run just for funsies.
>>108968516You use a thin client at work, to astroturf whatever your handler tells you to.
>>108969443Nothing wrong with thin clients, at least thin clients don't burn the planet down in the name of you, personally getting to run a high end graphics card because you think you're too "special" and "good" to use Google's graphics card remotely instead.
>>108967626>I hear a lot of vibeGODs talking about universal basic income, but it doesn't seem likely that rich people will pay me to not work?Arguably the biggest proponent for UHI (that's Universal HIGH Income) is Elon fucking Musk, the richest person in the world.Dario Amodei, the CEO of the most profitable AI start-up ever, is also EXTREMELY pro-UHI.If you seriously think these people WANT you unemployed or homeless or dead you've already fallen for the psyop. Technological advancement has historically always led to an increase to quality of life for basically everyone--this will be the same, but on a MUCH larger scale.
>>108969928they are "pro-uhi" as in "please don't molotov me until after I'm done building my bunker and sending the robot killbots to your location thanks" not as in "yes I want you to have an income", just "believe it goy I'm on your side"AIfags are, as usual, proven to be clinically retarded.
>>108963810>instantly outs himself as a redditorfuck off
I've yet to hear a good usecase for AI.
>>108964135fukkin kek
>>108969995Good usecases are plentiful. The problem is the AI needs to stop sucking donkey balls for it to be usable for these use cases.
>>108969928Elon Musk cut most of the remaining welfare in US and Brockman from OpenAI finances superpack that has similar policies, so their money is nowhere near their mouth as >>108969950 said. Also the problem is not lack of jobs but just economy restructuring. Today we have so many non-essential jobs because almost all essential ones got automated already, and yet we struggle trying to finance even just third of our population being retiree. How tf do you manage a society with 100% or 90% retirees?>>108967909Sorry you lived under a rock and believed those podcasters saying computer desk jobs are first to go, but fruit picking is being heavily automated. I don’t feel like posting pic of the robot that picks berries and fruit because I am phoneposting, so just search it, it looks like a cart with boxes and robotic arms and is already being used to pick berries. Truck drivers are not automated yet because people are not willing to spend money buying self driving trucks but there are already self driving combine harvesters and tractors on big commercial farms.Also Mexicans can do it because if they are illegal they don’t have to pay taxes.
>>108970069>Elon Musk cut most of the remaining welfare in USNo he didn't, the united states still has a 2 trillion dollar deficit.
>>108970083Boomer healthcare cannot be scrapped. Also BBB lowered taxes just enough to offset every cost cutting Elon did
I'm more on a neutral stance just out of pure ignorance really.I only use chatbots, I considered some automated tasks but I'm not into programming shit, and most AI generated imagery everywhere seems dull to me. Maybe some videos are funny and that's about it. I'm not one to pay a high price for something fully AI generated but I don't mind if people use some AI to make it easier to build a product that I enjoy better. If you can trick my brain I won't deny you anything.I don't love the situation we're all in these days but I have no reason to stop myself from light usage because I find it equivalent to recycling and being a vegan for the sake of animals. I'm not making my life harder for something anyone can confidently guarantee is of zero consequence. Yes I'll keep more lights on and toss more shit down the toilet.
>>108963810It's not, the ai general threads are keeping this board alive.
>>108969928They're "big proponents for UHI" because they're running AI companies and are trying to assuage people's fears of mass unemployment. If you think either of these people are going to be pro or even neutral on universal income when it's actually a possibility on the horizon you're actually retarded. Technological advancements can lead to improved quality of life, but not because benevolent billionaires decide to give away their wealth to the proles you moron.
>>108968054I will not abandon my computer. I am already using it more than you do. I will not move into the woods. But I will continue not using "AI" and making fun of it.
You're experiencing observation bias. Not a real basis to form an opinion on.
>>108970623>there just isnt enough horsehoe makers and radio repairmen in 2026
>>108971922>parrots talking points without understanding tehm
>>108963810>ultimately raised the standard of living for the vast majority of humanityand it only took generations of immiseration and death inflicted on factory workers until socialist action managed to force working conditions up to a decent level
>>108963920>giving out UHILook around at the way every tech billionaire is currently trying to extract as much wealth as possible from society before it all crashes down. UBI is never coming
>>108969995+ Stack Overflow search+ goonerfuel+ virtual Reddit bud
> what the fuck is going on?Normal people just use AI and don't talk about it much, but luddites are loud and vocal minority. They are seething and coping because their worldview is crumbling before their eyes.
>>108964521move slow, snailcat!
>>108970069>Elon Musk cut most of the remaining welfare in USI think Elon Musk has only recently been AGI-pilled. He truly thought it would be business as usual just 2 years ago, then realized we are getting AGI soon and everything will change, then went all in on xAI.Extensive welfare is detrimental if we don't have human-level AI, but it is a necessity if we have it.
>>108964521Move slow, snailcat!
Not slow. Quick enough.
>>108969928So why isn't Elon sharing his wealth right now ? Why are the panama papers essentially saying that everyone in the 1% is doing everything they can to hide their wealth from the rest ? >. Technological advancement has historically always led to an increase to quality of life for basically everyoneWhat a blatant historically ignorant lie, quality of life has only substantially increased for the masses after world war 2 up until the end of the cold war, most of that was due to a massive middle class heaved up by the economic reset that was world war two and the following stability and equitable wealth distribution across western societies. After Regan everything went back on track to return to how it was for all of history, rich useless fucks at the top exploiting everyone else and letting them rot in endless suffering, which is the future we we will have because of retarded naive idiots like yourself.
>>108963810>every single piece of software runs worse post AI>every single online space where opinions can be shared is flooded with near-human level bots>cheap adverts now just use soulless slop images and music which are 10000% worse to look at than stolen stock assets>price of computing has skyrocketed despite all of the parts being more readily produced than ever because of AI data centers>all of peoples rights and freedoms are being ignored or legislated away to further advance the AI surveillance dystopia>billions, trillions set up in economic losses just to create the infrastructure for mass human surveillance>the entire economy of planet earth is being held together by the lie that AI is some kind of cure all solution to everyone's problems>somehow retards living in countries without free healthcare believe these vampire boomer corpse people will give them UBI and won't just watch them die through their AI powered surveillance robot army monitorsFuck you retard
>>108963810AI is just an excuse for jews to launder money, hike the price of everything, and import more third world retards as replacement labor.
>>108973467Jews own everything, from politicians to banking systems. Why would they need to launder anything? They decide what money is clean.
>>108973491Jews only care about immigration due to cheap slave labor. This is why they shill robots and ai so much, they can finally get rid of even immigrants. Imagine instead of being flooded by pajeet service so bad you wish you received no service at all, you got the same treatment with even worse quality and had to pay for the privilege (these datacenters don't pay for themselves!). This is the future the jews dream of.
>>108973525Poo in loo pajeet, not in thread
>ai is currently 50% of us gdp growth>still not profitableThey cant afford to backtrack, or else the economy crashes, so they keep pumping money into the ai bubble, so when it pops, the economy crashes. 2029, just in time for the great depression centennial, except it will be ten times worse, ha ha ha
>>108973673Was the automobile industry unprofitable? Did the entire world stop so that only automobile production was getting funded? No and no. Automobiles were almost immediately profitable despite being quite shit early on and fund funnels were organically placed where they mattered rather than artificially pointed on just automobiles. It's through these dynamics that automobiles were able to improve: because everyone could focus on what would make them good and compare them to horses, instead of receiving money to scream "bigger! more wheels!" like retards while people trying to make more efficient engines can't get a dime since the market decided that's not cool enough.
>>108973840No it's not.>maybe in the future it will be trust me>same as actively profitableretard
>flagrant trolling is allowed if it's pro-ai
Skub.
>>108973840Damn a supposed super intelligence and yet the Jew in charge is going bald, guess balding is an unsolvable challenge.
>>108973840looks like a jew
>>108974148No, they don't. And no goalpost is being moved. I said it was unprofitable. It is indeed unprofitable. End of story. The only one moving goalposts is (((You)))
>>108964782Random techie scum buying their first EV and announcing it to /o/ is like buying a smartphone and talking to a bunch of HAM radio people. You aren't, and never were, part of the hobby. You don't actually like driving, you aren't a car guy, you don't know anything about cars, you don't respect them, you just want to brag about your Tesla or Rivian or whatever.
>>108973840The AI industry is in an unprecedented amount of debt and most of it is floating interest rates, so if interest rates go up their debt will skyrocket as well
>>108974195>bitches about goalpost shifting>shifts the goalpostsA good sign that you're engaging in cultish behavior is when you can't concede any point the opposition makes, no matter how mundane or obvious. In this case, that AI is, objectively, unprofitable.
>>108974195Tools aren't writing all the code in 2026. They're not writing anything except indian slop which they were already writing.Also, you go from non-sequitur to non-sequitur. It's so funny.
>>108972061-stack overflow is now dead, so no more training data, so no more up-to-date information-programs aren't substitutes for human interaction
>>108966302>Everyone hates posers and LLMs have emboldened millions of posers to be very loud about their new found magic tool to make them into everything they're actually not. That their claims of what it does for them turn out to be exaggerations 99.999% of the time is fitting because they're still posers, trying to find some shortcut to gaining competency they're unwilling or unable to actually acquire through actual learning and work./thread
>>108974242pretty much the story of ai is retarded managers realizing a machine is better at generating code than they are and assuming the people they oversee are equally worthless
>>108973840>AI is profitable.No, it is not.
>>108974256You're delusional.
>>108974278sauce?
>>1089742443 trillion dollars have been borrowed from private credit companies, which mainly deal in floating interest rates, for the ai datacenter buildout
>>108974256I built some of the first code-generating deep learning algorithms (hierarchical convnets with attention at the time). They worked just fine for small snippets. The surprise at the time is how little trouble they had with parenthesis balancing, which we expected to be one of the core weaknesses.We always knew we could just scale this, it had been done time and again before. But how are we to do this when we have a single gtx 1080 as per researcher and nothing else? But everyone knew in the field.You're so retarded. You keep backpedaling every post, too.
>>108974278>no it's not>the won't make moneyAs in, they haven't made any money yet. So they're unprofitable and even you are aware of it, but won't admit it. Like I said, cultish behavior.
>>108963810Jews and chinks. Chinks are trying to win the AI war through sewing anti-ai propaganda in America. Jews want to protect the hollywood machine.
>>108963810I like having clean water and affordable power
>>108974256>AI is writing code now. A feat once considered sci-fi 10 years ago.You think that this is a great achievement, because you -wrongly- assume "creating software that solves real-world problems in real-world conditions" equals "writing code"And for your sci-fi claims, product "Genexus", which was also based on AI, wrote entire, complete software systems, based on specifications, already in the early 1990s, so what?The problem is that you're a NEET and you think you know everything.
>>108963842We're onto you kike.
>>108963810probably because half of the generals are getting spammed by ai bots. this isnt limited to/g/ but /dmp/, /prod/, /gg/, /trek/, etc etc. i dont want to chat with bots, i came here to chat with autists.
>>108963810What the fuck are you talking. They are 6 general threads about AI.
>>108974324>No, I'm just happy to watch ludditeslisten retard, the ones that you call "luddites" are the ones who actually use LLMs for the things it is useful. You, an imbecile of magnanimous proportions, are the kind of dweeb that thinks "AI" can solve everything, can be applied to everyting, and believe any of the hype the ((industry)) gives you.
>>108974359Almonds are food (milk). Datacenters are nothing (waste heat).
>>108974444CHECKEDNot to mention a ton of that heat being generated is because of lazy shits who refuse to use anything other than Python.
>>108974293>the AI warFuck you.
>>108963810Because AI is JEWISH.We don't like JEWS here.AI benefits JEWS, not you and me.
>>108963920Why do automobiles get their own board, then?
>>108974473>AI can be used to solve mathematical proofs and other universe breaking discoveries.kekkeep believing all the ((news)) you read, but please poo in the loo.
