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i hope you like leftovers
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>>108964564I don't buy Noctua because my tinnitus appreciates the fan whine on 24/7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNZDbdxQFYcwonnered
>>108964579what broke this buck so hard?
>>108964634this guy isnt dead???? its like hearing 3dgameman.
>>108964634perhaps I should try transformer model in Deadlock. I didn't know it was DLSS 4. didn't that come out with RTX 4000 series?
why aren't ram prices coming down? why aren't new ram factories being built to handle the increased demand?
>>108964664hahhaha
>>108964664
>>108964634its a sharpening filter
>>108964664You will buy the state mandated rtx spark box and you will like it
>>108964690>its a sharpening filter
>pc's are dying>coding and all white collar professions too>as a human, there's not much point to doing anything I didn't expect the singularity and ai emergence to be this depressing. where are the cyberbrains that can make us competitive, rather than being completely useless?
>>108964586>Amd that low downNo wonder the GPU market has been so stagnant as of late
>>108964586what is being charted here?
>>108964735performance
Need some advice for my sister bwos. She has been using a 2060 forever now and I want to get her an upgrade. Will a 5060ti 16gb be enough for her gaming with all her friends in multiplayer stuff? I don't want her to feel left out in anyway while her friends play new games. I can run out and get the card now if you all think she'll be happy with it
is this just a dead market or what?interested in trying an ultrawide for gaming.
>>108964746>not buying a rog astral 5090 for your sister
>>108964735Probably tokens if I had to guess
>>108964742what context and game?
>>108964746If you buy anything other than a 5070 or 5090 for your sister internet predators will infiltrate her puter
>>108964746it's a really bad time to upgrade. 8GB for budget, 16GB for AI or 4k, but next-gen releasing in 2027 will make all of it obsolete since consoles are getting a significant increase in RAM.
>>108964685>>108964679>being this cynicalchina will save us any day now.
>>108964763Even if the gaystation 6 do come out next year with enough ram to be potentially threatening to vram-lets, is a $2000 console going to sell enough to actually be the optimization target?Also blessed Nvidia is already working on solving this issue with ntc, because they love and care about every single pc gaymer.
>>108964751and why would you ever buy 1080p ultrawide? costs as much as 1440p but has worse refresh rates too?
US will stop the import of Chinese parts because Jensen will convince Trump it's bad for his spark boxes then make an agreement to give a government backdoor into everyone's pc with his chips
>>108964664people finally realized ddr5 is actually good nowddr4 is out of production and demand is outweighing stockno clue about ddr3 and older
>>108964777>they love and care about every single pc gaymer.BAHAHA
>>108964777>RAM will stay high forever/yawn
>>108964746>I can run out and get the card nowI'd just get the 5070 and be done with it I think they're similar in price to 5060ti 16GB if you can grab either today just do that and forget about it
>>108964760probably blender
>>108964785trump will probably be dead before chinese dram scales up
>>108964760It's from the most important games, with the most important graphical feature enabled
>>108964760all of them
new amd drivers
>>108964763>since consoles are getting a significant increase in RAM.Next gen consoles are getting SoCs with better upscaler support to require more physical memory.>'Upscaling takes up RAM!'Running an upscaler with a lower internal resolution reduces the GPU's RAM utilization compared to native resolution gaming.They'll tune the upscaler to work with 10~12GB RAM for the GPU, like running performance or balanced upscaler quality.We're in a world where the Steam Machine is likely to cost over $1,000.>Console manufacturers will subsidize cost!Sony torched so much cash with all their failed acquisitions and live service game development.We'll see how many units of Helix Xbox MS will shit out.
>>108964848>Next gen consoles are getting SoCs with better upscaler support to require more physical memory.I meant to say they don't plan to increase memory capacity and work around with GDDR7's faster bandwidth + better upscalers.
So basically in a few years now it's either game on Jensen's prebuilt pc or a console. I choose console.
>>108964763>>108964799Alright thanks bwos, I'm going to go out and buy it now for her. I know it's not the best time to buy, but i want her to have a comfy summer gaming with her friends
>new gpu drivers
>>108964874POV you bought an 8 core CPU
>>108964772The Chinese memory fab expansion is a national self-sufficiency matter.These aren't being made for more GSkill or Corsair Vengeance memory sticks.Memory and storage cost will never return to 2022 ~ mid 2025 price levels.The wealthiest companies in human history are buying all this hardware to replace as many white collar workers.
>>108964564I "upgraded" my 5900X/32GB/3090 system yesterday to now include RX580 because i needed full 24GB of VRAM for machine learning and my 4K display is using 850MB of VRAM just to existNow my 3090 gets half an inch of space to breathe, max temp gets to 96 degrees C on memory junction, but for only like 10-15 seconds.I have a beefier cooler than OP post, mine is dual radiator, but overall very similar setup, i am using an icecream stick to hold my 3090, secured on the bottom with rubber feet holding it in place
>>108964897>These aren't being made for more GSkill or Corsair Vengeance memory sticksCorsair is starting to use CXMT memory
I actually do hope someone reviews a batch of old 5800X3Ds vs the anniversary editions, because the old ones undervolt stably (all core -25 to -30). Will the new ones perform the same?
>>108965013I had one at launch and it couldn't do anything better than -15.
>>108965021You didn't.
>>108965032this was my rig 4 years ago
>>108964848they're all going heavy on ray/path tracing next-gen.you're already seeing the base of this in AAA titles releasing this year, Resident Evil, Crimson Desert...
>>108964579>>108964645>waaah waaah big companies no longer suck up to me and cater to my needs waaahLouis telling Steve to let loose after the LTT drama was what did him in. Now he's successfully burning down his reputation to the ground. Thanks Steve!
>>108965076It's all marketing fluff. The RT in next gen console will be weaker than what a 5070 can handle.The name of the game is cost control, and upscalers are part of this strategy.
>>108965124>The RT in next gen console will be weaker than what a 5070 can handle.source?
>>108965124>The RT in next gen console will be weaker than what a 5070 can handlelol!looks like a fake article too.
>>108965131>>108965136Gaming consoles are about cost control, they're not planning to use a massive SoC.There's no modern precedence.Go ahead and save this comment until 2028/29.
i just made enough money in the last 4-5 days to buy myself a 5090 at scalper price, should I?my ML prefers larger neural network size, and i am almost capping 3090, i am at like 300MB spare so i could still push this bitch
>>108964862There are many more things to do than gaming, and consoles can only game. I'd pick a PC over a console even if PC couldn't play any games at all.
>>108965173but we already know the hardware in the next-gen consoles. the only uncertainty is the amount of RAM.
>>108964700It'll get better, but it'll get worse before that.
>>108965208No, you don't.We live in a world where people have to pay $800 for a Series X and $950 for a PS5 Pro.The console manufacturers will do everything they can to push down next gen hardware prices, like fusing off more CUs to improve GPU yields.These guys aren't about making the best possible console.
>>108964819>trumpWe'll all be dead before chinese dram scales up.
>>108965233they have zen 6 and rdna 5 with a minimum of 20 gb ram, being on the ps6 handheld.why make a ps6 if it won't be better than the ps5?
>let's just reinvent the wheel but make it worse for everyone because we're bored
>>108965297>no ARM only x86so now competition is bad?
>>108965233so you think this is inaccurate?you think next-gen will be a ray/path tracing regression from current gen?
MY COMPUTER IS SO HEAVY IT'S CAUSING MY IKEA TABLE TO SAG
>>108965337shit I was considering moving my computer off the floor to my desk but now you're making me reconsider.t. ikea desk haver
>>108965337Why is your table made out of cardboard?
>>108965233https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/03/11/project-helix-building-next-generation-of-xbox/>It delivers an order of magnitude leap in ray tracing performance and capability, integrates intelligence directly into the graphics and compute pipeline, and drives meaningful gains in efficiency, scale, and visual ambition. The result is more realistic, immersive, and dynamic worlds for players.https://www.digitalfoundry.net/news/2025/10/mark-cerny-talks-project-amethyst-future-sony-hardware-you-have-indeed-spotted-the-win>DF: With this strong focus on machine learning innovation, where does rasterisation performance sit on your list of priorities for future hardware?>Mark Cerny: Conventional rasterisation is of course very important too, and we will seek out improvements there where possible. But I think we can all agree that the step change will come from ray tracing and machine learning capabilities!Straight from the source, both next gen consoles will heavily focus on RT improvements.
>>108965346The frame is steel or aluminum tubing I think but the table top is probably standard issue plywood crap, I only just noticed it while remodeling my room
>>108965343I was going to do it for noise reasons even though this case is amazingly quiet but putting a carpet back in the room and the dust filters made me think I got enough cable length anywayThis table is a 125x75 Melltorp
>>108965365Love that nigga Mark Cerny
>>108965385His tech presentations are very calming to listen to but ngl, his time of technological prowess has come to an end the moment PlayStation became x86 based. You can only do so much wacky shit with a standardized platform like that.
TDP should die as a metricTBP and PPT should be used instead
>>108965423Who cares tho?
>>108965423But Anon, that would mean higher numbers for power draw.That's not good for the marketing, we can't have that.
>>108965365All that means is the next gen consoles will have better RT than the Series X with an RDNA2 GPU. It's a low bar.The goal is to sell at least 50~60 million units asap for Sony (3~4th year of release), that will only happen if the hardware cost can be reduced to $700~800.>>108965284>why make a ps6 if it won't be better than the ps5?The CPU itself make the PS6 better than the PS5. You can stop the hyperbole.>>108965336I don't rely on a horseshitter.
>>108965377my house is extremely dusty even though I don't have carpet. I don't know if picking it up would even help with that, but I'm kind of tired of not having access to ports and reaching under the desk to hit the power button.
>>108965385micheal jackson knew him
>>108965438>ignore insiders>ignore directly from the producers>ignore everything>keep posting delusionsok. good luck.
>>108965477>ignore insidersYou mean bullshitter>ignore directly from the producersThey said it's a leap from RDNA2's RT capabilities, which is an extremely low bar.>ignore everythingOverreacting like a low test woman.>posting delusionsProjection, save my comments.
How did the 5700X3D cost $200 but the 5800X3D relaunch now cost $350 this is some bullshit
>>108965233it's totally different marketsnobody buying a console goes "hmm yeah but what about that steam deck oled" and vice versa. I think the move is beyond retarded but only because the steam deck is so old and its competitors are launching much better hardware at more expensive prices ($1500+) but when the 4 year old steam deck using 6 year old chip is saying give us $1000 then yeah only the most insane valvedrone will bother with the steam deck now.Valve always said the bestselling steam deck model was the most expensive one but who knows if that'll still hold up.
>>108965561Because AMD was tuning 5700X3Ds from leftover 5800X3Ds when the latter was full production.They restarted 3DVcache packaging for Zen 3 to run a profitable business.
>>108965561Check the price of 5500X3D, 5800X3D isn't worth $350 but desperate people will pay that much. Also don't forget this is the price before those scalper Tax.
>>108965561because when the 5700x3d launched there was still hope for the future
>>108965604nta but what if Im currently on 5600x and would like to boost my pc to last until zen 6, would it be a noticeable jump to 5800x3d? for this price they announced (paired gpu is 9070xt)
>>1089657415800x3d is basically a 9600x, i dont see the 10600X being a big jump over it. I would just get the 5800X3D and wait for AM6/DDR6, DDR5 is shit anyway.
>>108965793yeah sorry my bad, I meant AM6, not zen6
>>1089657415800X3D is the same tier as 7500F. 7500F is $100. Upgrading from 5600X to 5800X3D is barely worth it, maybe for some specific games.
>>108965802Is the ddr5 ram and motherboard also included in the $100?
>>108965741same gen upgrades are not that noticeable most of the time, but in the case of x3d it will benefit you in the long runif you plan to skip ddr5/ not murder youre wallet in the not so distant future then yes i would also max out my am4 platformdont listen to the anti-x3d nigger, he believes mobos and ram grow out of trees
>>108965820yeah thats the problem. I wanted to move to 9800x3d but missed the window (I can only blame myself) and then noped out when I saw the ddr5 prices. thats why Im staying on am4
>9600x system with 16GB DDR5>5800x3d system with 32GB DDR4These come out to roughly the same price, i know which one i’d rather have
>>108964784A 5k2k is also an ultrawide.I will get me a LG UltraGear evo GX9 39" 5k2k once the stupid early adopters price comes down a little.
AM4 platform is also much more power efficient than AM5, the cpus peak at 70w gaming while am5 they gobble up to 120w.
>>108965915Ddr4 ram also just werks
I remember when I saw the 7950x review and it was 30% better than the 5950x but also consumed 30% more power, AM5 is really the beginning of the INTELization of AMD
>>108965910nice monitor but I wish it was 240hzI need something top of the line that I can use with my 6090 when it comes out
>>108965947Every 7xxx X SKU has retarded power limit, you have to manually enable ECO mode or change PPT. There is no point using default settings with those CPUs. AyyMD backed a little with power draw with 9xxx series.
>>108965947>it was 30% better than the 5950x but also consumed 30% more powerliterally nothing wrong with this
>>108966124it is bad because a cpu made on 5nm should be more efficient than a 7nm one
>>108966138Zen6 should be efficient, first time in a long time consumer desktop cpu’s will be on the leading edge node.
>>108965910I don't want beyond 21:9.
>>108966067>>108965910>>108964784>>108964751Niggas talm bout WOLED, even a tandem will be lackluster compared to QDOLED32" 4k 360hz screen for competitive games if you must165hz 55-77" S95-tier TV for Sneedplayer gamingthe game has been solved5k/6k (qdoled) pc monitors for ppimaxers to be continued..
>>108966395I'm not a fan of OLED. would prefer TN but will settle for IPS.
>>108966402TN is abandonware unless you want 600hz 24"IPS just buy the G80HS 6k
>>108966395>32" 4k 360hz screen for competitive games if you mustThose won't come out this year.
