>post any criticism>get shadowbanned on the spotIs this America?
>troll>FAFOI don't see any issue here.
link to post?
>>108966300It is a private fiefdom of Silicon Valley Feudalism, and you are subject the whims of its lord.
>>108966300Indian News
>>108966334wrong, you can vouch for dead posts
>>108966412Who can? Shadow banned submissions/comments are invisible to other users.
>>108966300Not technology.
>>108966300It's bay area values. Often those who speak the loudest about intellectual freedom end up being closet authoritarians. Look at Cory Doctorow and the shit he let Xeni get away with at boingboing. All of them, including Cory, let her be their Censor-in-Chief, including erasing people from their past because she didn't like their clam bakes anymore. When someone slobbers on dang's knob over how good of a job he does with moderating HN, you know they're a leftist authoritarian.
>>108966459It is tho. Shadowbanning doesn't work IRL.
>>108966452wronghttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#dead>Dead posts aren't displayed by default, but you can see them all by turning on 'showdead' in your profile.>If you see a [dead] post that shouldn't be dead, you can vouch for it. Click on its timestamp to go to its page, then click 'vouch' at the top. When enough users do this, the post is restored. There's a small karma threshold before vouch links appear.
Current thread on Orange Reddit is a good example of how they are increasingly deserving of that nickname.>I read somewhere this morning there is now more spending on datacenter infrastructure for "AI" in the US than all other infrastructure combined, roads, bridges, ship ports, etc.>Sounds plausible but I doubt it outmatches ICE warehouse concentration camp spending
just don't criticise anything apple on hacker news. apple fanboys are very sensitive on there and will flag you on sight.
>>108966475Nobody does that shit, retard. Dong mod literally hid my reply to make it look like I never replied to him. My static IP has been banned since 2016 election both on HN and 4chan. Fucking Americans...
>>108966495[flagged]
>>108966492>Which is now the future of this country unless we force a course correction, by 2029 you'll drive down highways and it will just be one datacenter and ICE prison warehouse after anotherIt's salt evaporation concentration theory. As a place becomes more beholden to a particular ideology, people who aren't in alignment with the ideology get tired of discussions always trending in one direction, so they leave, making the discussions even more concentrated with the particular ideology. Eventually belief in one worldview becomes so extreme that all discussions, regardless of topic, end up converging on promotion of the ideology.
Cunningham's Law: The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer.>posts wrong answer>[flagged]T-thanks Cunningham
>>108966502link to post
The only disparity between something like slashdot 25 years ago and orange reddit is what the groupthink bias is and a difference of degrees. Any place where there's a bias site administrator combined with karma/upboats results in a mandatory circlejerk.
>>108966495latest apple story was negative and wasn't flagged. nor were negative comments.https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48364800
>>108966666>The only disparity between something like slashdot 25 years ago and orange reddit is what the groupthink bias is and a difference of degrees.nope, hn has insiders that know their shit. /. never had.>Any place where there's a bias site administratorhn mods aren't biased. otherwise show examples of.
>>108966672threads that have enough volume of criticism that get past initial filter are an exception.
Add the url to your hosts file and move on with your life.
>>108966738Imagine being so new that you'd argue with quints. Kek has spoken, and >>108966666 is the gospel truth.
>>108966474>Shadowbanning doesn't work IRL.Ah, good. You've not noticed it yet.
>>108966300its just communist trannyies. its just another reddit
>>108966666tldr censorship creates echo chambers
>>108966330>>108966492Stupid fucking posts. Heavy-handed moderation and shadowbanning only affects legit users who have something to lose. Trolls are ALREADY planning to make 1,000 fake accounts and spam shit and start fights. A regular user just has one account, and when they're banned they leave. Which increases the ratio of trolls to normal users. This is why twitter and reddit became such a shithole. That's also why if you go to Sharty's wiki and look up how to troll 4chan, almost all of the entries are trying to get regular users banned by baiting them into mentioning key words and phrases that they can report. There's a reason all social media sucks dick now and it's entirely because heavy moderation favors the people who take the time to make infinite fake accounts. It only punishes people who want to effortpost. Insane moderation is a troll's best friend, as fragile power-trippers are an easy target to bait onto regular people by being extremely sensitive and overemotional. >>108966738>hn mods aren't biased. otherwise show examples of.Take this example, there's an arbitrary daily post limit that can get applied to your account if you happen to cross Orange reddit's moderation staff, because they know that they can't just ban every person who disagrees. They can, however, make the site unusable for anyone who doesn't walk lockstep with their sensibilities. Which is how they get away with coming here and saying "Errrrmm we're not biased, we just restrict any account that makes my clitty leak by suggesting Apple isn't the best manufacturer in existence". But you know who doesn't give a fuck about an account getting an arbitrary post limit? Trolls. Who have 50 accounts off a proton email with aliases and bait everyone into making the jannies pissy.
>>108967015It also creates sites nobody wants to post on and eventually get filled with exclusively bots mimicing the few people who weren't banned.
>>108966666The digits have spoken.>>108966548>salt evaporation concentration theoryNot heard this before, but it makes a great deal of sense. Most subreddits suffer from this effect greatly, and orange reddit does too. AI psychos have drowned everyone else out and sane people are leaving.This hellhole seems less susceptible to that based on us apparently never getting tired of language flamewars, but at the same time, I don't know when I last saw a shitlib defender here was.
>4chan thread moaning about being banned from another site>assume the op is lying and downplaying what he actually did>be right 100% of the time
>>108966502how the fuck do you get banned from 4chan retard
>>108967259posting soup
>>108966300Why are they all like this?Orange redditors are the people literally implementing this "age verification" shit despite having done all the things as kids they're now trying to ban. How many of them would've never gotten into computers if they were banned from the internet as kids?It's pure ladder pulling behavior and it's absolutely vile.
>>108967029True post
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>>108967029to be fair I rarely get bans on 4chan even though I think I'm technically breaking rules sometimesI'd like to think that there's a social contract with the jannies where as long as you effortpost, they'll be lenient with youbut also I've been using the same IP for idk how long now and the C*A probably has a massive folder on meI'm so fucked lolsfhuasdfhudshgudshaguthankfully everything I post on here is satire, only a fool would take anything posted by me as fact
>>108967541>to be fair I rarely get bans on 4chan even though I think I'm technically breaking rules sometimesDude have you ever sat down and read some of the rules of these boards? You're breaking /g/'s rules if you make a tech support thread, if you post in /sqt/ you are objectively posting in an off-topic thread. All tech support questions are to be directed to >>>/wsr/ and the fact I'm pointing out how stupid this is and how few people follow this rule is ALSO against 4chan's rules. It's a farce.
>>108967138This is true everywhere except reddit and orange reddit. mods are just spiteful faggots on those sites.
>>108967749The rules on paper and the actual rules are two very different things, just like our constitution actually. Curious!
>>108967029Reflecting on this, I might disconnect from the Internet for a couple of months, possibly for the rest of the year
Having not posted on there since 2012-13, I was really surprised at how openly political most posts on the front page are now. It didn't use to be like that.
>>108966300The difference between orange reddit and green reddit is that one worships jews and the other loathes them.
>>108966300The new crop of leadership is all in on surveillance capitalism and it’s the only tech getting any funding except a billion ai sloppa companies. The moderation obviously acts as an arm of the leadership. The new crop of users are cheerleading that, since nerds are still needed to work the gears of the machine so it’s a useful propaganda place. The other half of new users are thirdies and muzdogs that spam politics and le west bad all day.Any "hacker" from even 15 years ago would take a fat shit over the entire modern userbase. Not to say hackers ever cared about IPOs, evaluations and angel investing, but there was at least plenty of interesting tech talk there. Even that isn’t the case either. The joke that hn is orange reddit isn’t really a joke at this point.
For a while I felt like I was getting value out of lurking there. Occasionally something technical and extremely interesting would be posted. The rest of the time it made me feel like I understood how Valley dwellers think, and that understanding was useful even if I disagree because these people have wildly outsized influence over the world. But honestly now that I've dropped the site entirely, I still find tech news in other places. I also spend much less time raging at the simplistic, callous and corrosive opinions orange redditors generally hold. I seriously think that they are more misanthropic than 4chan ever was.
Orange reddit has its moments desuThere was a molly thrown at sama’s house and the comments were pretty much "yea wouldn’t do it myself but I’m not surprised, dude publicly hypes up immiseration of half the country" and a bunch of "huh we sure it wasn’t staged?", and all the peaceniks preaching about how violence was never the answer and never accomplishes anything got laughed at. Then dong logs in, cries publicly how disappointed he is with the community and an hour later the thread gets sanitized into well wishes to the deeply affected billionaire who dindu nuffin.And then a few days later another schizo wanted to cap altman and the same thing happened all over again, eith hand wringing and shit. Peak comedy.
>>108968511you forgot the tptacek melties
>>108967329I'm against age verification and pro just banning porn entirely. Wonder what orange reddit thinks of that lel.
>>108968538idk about orange reddit but I think you’re a cuck
>>108968562That's nice. I married a virgin and sex her almost every night.
@gemini call me pretty.
>>108968538I have the same view. However, I just know that they won't stop at (((pornographic media))) and will eventually ban certain art and games that they find distasteful, too. They're even doing that now.
Ban pornBan alcoholBan social mediaBan 4chanBan computers that aren’t always-onlineBan mosquitoes
>>108966412>>108966475The jannies can pin your comment to the top of a thread if you're """important""", and they can also flagkill it in a way that's unvouchable by mere mortals. Even if you have showdead on, they'll hide it under a "stub" comment at the very bottom.
>>108966300most megalomaniac and delusional people on the internetthey do that because they are immature, and vulnerablethey live in a bubble and don't want the bubbles being poppedliterally an orange reddit
>>108966300I have 10k + karma on HN. Never been banned. Reason: powerlevel is only for 4chan. This is the same dynamic that goes on at the office. I dont just show up with my dick hanging out saying N* this and N* that...
watching jeets piss and shit themselves when it comes to H1B is fucking amazing
>>108967029>Trolls are ALREADY planning to make 1,000 fake accounts and spam shit and start fights.And if they can't get one of these 1000 fake accounts established, they're just wasting their time.>Which increases the ratio of trolls to normal users.Did letting stormfags run wild on 4chan for years decrease the ratio of stormfags to normal users? Did not banning clankers on /g/ decrease the ratio of clankers to normal users? Or is half the catalog getting full of "lulz ludditors be seethin at my posthuman paradise" as the board is at 2009 levels of activity?>This is why twitter and reddit became such a shithole.Twitter has always been a shithole, and it ironically became worse when Elon unbanned all the trolls that are on his side.>There's a reason all social media sucks dick nowYeah. It's because they're designed to get you addicted to ragebait.
what /g/ has come to: ranting against ai and hacker news all day long. lmao. this board deserves its death.
>>108968655>Ban porn>Ban alcohol>Ban social mediaMost antisemitic post I've seen in a while. You should be ashamed of youself.
>>108966474Then explain why they shadowbanned me from getting a job :|
>>108966495Oh so it's like the opposite of here.
>>108966473>leftist authoritarian
>>108971058So you spent the pandemic sucking dang's dick? He was banning people for the mere suggestion that there might have been a lab leak. Anyone who made it through the pandemic on Orange Reddit without getting "you're posting too much" several times is either a vaxtard or a coward.
>>108966300https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PP6F96Pa9Q
>>108973470>He was banning people for the mere suggestion that there might have been a lab leak.And he was right. There never was any evidence of this, and all your arguments for that, ever, boiled down to "B-BUT THE DILBERT GUY SAID THAT"
>>108971058HN is garbage and vapid brainless faggots like you are the problem.I've never said nigger or even anything rude. You were in diapers when I created my account. Don't even know or care if I've been shadowbanned from that obnoxious shithole.4chan has a lot of retards but there are occasional good posts. And the retards here are all lazy and easily ignored. On orange reddit, retards put a ton of effort into their retarded posts and have a crowd of retarded followers upvoting all the garbage.
>>108973546Banning peope for it is retarded and hypocritical though.
>>108973546This post is extremely low quality.
>>108973571How? It increases content quality.
>>108971443>And if they can't get one of these 1000 fake accounts established, they're just wasting their time.NTA, what kind of stupid fucking statement is this, have you ever been to Hackernews or any of these reddit-likes or are you just being contrarian for the sake of saying stupid shit? Literally it's as easy as providing a dozen email aliases on a free proton trial. >Did letting stormfags run wild on 4chan for years decrease the ratio of stormfags to normal users?Yes you fucking newfag. Where do you think the term 'election tourist' even came from? Why do you think moot remade /pol/? GodDAYUM you should try reading a bit on 4chan's history before being so certain about what the site is like. I'm sure whatever subreddit you came from has links to some primers you can read.
>>108973628How does banning people for trying to discuss current world events increase content quality? It just makes the trolls emboldened to try baiting people into discussing it so they get banned.the current administration is famous for supporting the lab leak theory btw. you going to ban people for discussing what the current admin thinks? I know your answer is 'yes you chud' but ten seconds of thinking would reveal that this is why reddit and twitter became echochamber shitholes in the first place.
>>108971058>I have 10k + karma on HN. This is just saying "I'm the stupidest retard who walks lockstep with everyone else to keep from being banned". >>108973546case in point.>>108973628case in point. "just ban it LOL" makes every normal user leave and just leaves dicksuckers and trolls to run the place.
>>108973546dumb fucking cattle
>>108974114>Yes you fucking newfag.R E T A R D>>108974138>How does banning people for trying to discuss current world events increase content quality?It doesn't, but that's not what we're talking about.>the current administration is famous for supporting the lab leak theory btw.Maybe that has something to do with why HN sucks.>>108974145>walks lockstep with everyone elseNo one says that, retard.>banning trolls leaves trolls to run the placeR E T A R D
I hope this is some weird trolling