>>108967578
all browsers are shit there's no such thing as a good browser, it doesn't matter what you use, just pick the one you like the look of, they'll all load websites

why don't you just use Safari?

>>108967578
I like librewolf which is just firefox but with more hardening
it's very nice and minimal out of the box which is nice since everytime I install firefox I have to faff about trying to get it that way

yes, use netscape navigator it's the best and you don't even have to worry about shady extensions because they weren't invented yet

They're all fucking trash now. There isn't a single browser out there that isn't a bloated, AI-slopped, spying piece of shit. The only choice you have is whose dildo you want rammed up your ass to the hilt.

>>108967793
that's a rough take on the situation but you're certainly not wrong

>>108967578
Yeah. Go librewolf, or if you're lazy brave/helium.

>>108967578
No. It sucks, but everything else is worse.

>>108967578
No. Safari on macOS/iOS has much better battery efficiency but shittier and fewer extensions and lots of terrible UI decisions.
Anything chrome based makes you an enemy of the open web.

No serious other browsers exist.

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>>108967578
GNU IceCat

Brave. It's way faster and has better adblocking and is made by the guy that originally made Firefox before that female put 110% of their profits into her bonuses.

AOL is missing a huge opportunity by not releasing their shit as a normal browser.

>>108967578
Not really. It doesn't matter

Run whatever that gets updates + ublock origin

>>108967854
This or chromium are it.

I am planning to switch to Waterfox when the amount of bullshit crosses the line.

>>108967578
>switch
No
>have a chromium backup for the odd picky page
Yes

>>108967867
this

Ungoogled Chromium

>>108967578
They're all shit but at least Firefox supports the good version of Ublock Origin which makes it a bit less shit.

>>108967867
>better adblocking
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox

>>108967578
Brave is 1000 times better. Full stop. Period. End of Story. The End.

>use vpn
>websites literally block you
>use security focused indie browser
>websites throw up endless captchas or "checking your browser" loading screens
>use firefox
>it fucking sucks
it's so over

>>108968002
On Linux.

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>>108967578
Yes.

>>108967985
Uslop sucks dick, no use case.

>>108967578
Firefox is alright. I don't understand the whining.

>>108967578
youtube breaks ff and I have no idea how to fix it other than relaunching.

>>108967985
Brave's adblocking is better than uBlock's, geckoshit or otherwise. It's also far less ideological, they just push filters people want without arguing about what counts as an ad or arbitrarily giving up on popular websites.

>>108968002
I have it installed because they're working on tree style tabs and containers so we'll see how that goes.
So fas nothing beats Firefox in that regard.

>decide to install Chrome just to see how bad it is
>eh, not so bad, works well with AI websites...
>have to look up generated saved password in Chrome used for one website
>YOU NEED TO ENTER YOUR WINDOWS PASSWORD!
>ok, fine
>THIS IS NOT A VALID PASSWORD
>it's the only password I login to windows with
>can't look up the generated password Chrome saved because it wants to both demand my windows password and ignore my windows password
Sticking with Firefox.

>>108968215
All browsers have colored tab groups and most browsers block third-party cookies by default unless required not to by the UK market authority, except Firefox lol lmao, so it seems to me the only point of containers is to easily use multiple accounts on the same site which is rarely legitimate activity. Firefox should be investigated as a criminal tool and/or identified as a bad-faith project.

>>108968242
>which is rarely legitimate activity
Having multiple youtube cointainers makes me a criminal, damn.
>UK
Found your problem.

>>108967578
if you just turn on DNS over HTTPS and uBlock it's literally just as hardened as Brave or Librewolf

>>108968281
librewolf: trust some random gitlab maintainers over mozilla so librewolf can save you the 30 seconds of pasting a user.js and installing ublock origin. it's "hardened" for sure lol for hardened retards

>>108968155
Completely incorrect- Brave's ad blocking is ridiculously weak compared to ublock. Wild that chrome fags are this retarded still.

>>108968293
prove it.

Chrome is literally slower than firefox, I see no reason to swap.
Unless you want some specific features tied to videos like hdr.

>>108967578
Default Firefox is like using Google Chrome when Ungoogled Chromium exists.

Librewolf or Waterfox is better, otherwise if you actually want to escape Google's duopoly Pale moon (or Basilisk) + Falkon (or Safari) is a good combo.

>>108968305
Chromium is slower in that it's hard-coded to load tabs lazily instead of immediately. But in all rendering it's way way faster. Also, Firefox consistently requests assets from servers in the wrong order, which is why simple sites are plenty fast but heavy modern SPAs like youtube/reddit/github are sometimes extremely slow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0lFyPuH8Zs

>>108968299
Burden of proof is on you, bud. You made the initial claim that challenges the accepted norm / standard. If you have proof that shows brave as consistently better otherwise, please provide it. Otherwise you're just a random faggot shill that NEEDS to kill yourself. Fuck your gay faggot ass browser. Fuck chrome jeets, GO BACK.

>>108968320
>the accepted norm / standard
on reddit maybe. in realityland way more people use brave than ublock. source: i go outside.

>>108968318
From the sites you mention only youtube is faster on chrome.
Chrome also manages to use my gpu instead of my cpu when playing youtube videos.
Firefox fails at that.
But reddit and github are not slower on firefox for me.
Reddit used to be extremely slow but with the recent updates it's just as fast if not faster.
Chrome seems too heavy for no reason, if the simple act of picking and dragging a tab make chrome so slothful.

>>108968327
>Firefox fails at that.
>the simple act of picking and dragging a tab make chrome so slothful
Both of these are problems with your computer not the browser.

I tried Brave and hated the look of it. Mainly managing bookmarks and other extensions/add-ons in the menubar, just looks much worse than FF.

It just works.

How do I completely disable hdr in the new firefox?

>>108967578
Like others said, just stick to Firefox, clean your Startpage, disable agnostics and telemetry. Remove sponsored stuff. And just install Ublock Origin.

Yes Firefox defaults got worse, but even without tweaks it's still better than any proprietary browser. Daily drive Firefox and get a chromium based browser as backup.

>>108968281
>>108968285
Unlock also hides your hardware and resolution and is much better against fingerprinting. Librewolf + vpn is solid for more private browsing. Using AI that way is nice. Maybe an anon mail

>>108968559
>Daily drive Firefox and get a chromium based browser as backup.
Or just have Firefox report itself as Chrome. There are sites that try to punish Firefox but usually there's no actual incompatibility.

>>108967578
Not at all
Firefox is unironically the greatest of all time.

Vivaldi 8?0

>>108967578
It's engine is the only place where uBlock Origin works the best, so no, there is no point in switching.

>>108967578
It gets shittier and shittier with every release, slop being added by the day, but somehow it STILL is the best option when it comes to browsers.

I use Librewolf for browser and Iceraven for mobile because Librewolf refuses to make a mobile browser.

>>108967793
this

>>108967578
No. Either this + arkenfox-like tweaks, or waterfox.
If you use youtube very often (and there is a reason why your should continue to do so, make sure there is a reason), then use Chrome for youtube only. Same with their other in-browser apps.
There is a slight difference, because Google is doing anti competitive stuff with their websites on non-Chrome browsers and especially non-Chromium based browsers.
Mozilla will not sue them, since Mozilla is controlled opposition and lives off Google's money. They're not profitable. But they have enough lunatics to keep the party going. This is why Google pays money. They don't want anyone with free time and money and energy to invest it all in developlemnt of the new browser.
I bet if someone does that anyways, they will unironically hire a killer to take that person out.
Google is part of Alphabet, which is part of FAGMAN. They're organized crime. Their products like Chrome are basically spyware, which they already ship for free and use for industrial espionage, they do not want any competition.

>>108968326
>On reddit ublock is the standard
>Way more people use brave
These are contradictory statements, what is popular on Reddit is often the shitty contrarian pick.
>No evidence provided, entirely dodged.
I accept your concession.

Since this is a FF thread I gotta ask here since Reddit is full of retarded smug faggots.
I've been using Brave & FF for a long time but now only remain with FF, however, no matter what settings I change or what "hardedning" I do Firefox never manages to give me a randomized fingerprint like Brave, I legit only use uBO on FF with "proper" filters enabled. Even followed some Arkenfox shit to see if it would change and it's still the same shit, what gives?

>>108970376
Give up on fighting fingerprints. Or take it very seriously (use hardened OS and nuke entire browser after each session). This half baked approach will take you nowhere.

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>>108967578
ENTER.

>>108970426
I'm kind of 50/50 about it but mostly forgetting about fingerprinting. Was just wondering why it's easy to achieve on Brave vs Firefox.

>>108967578
No, I definitely don't think so.
Firefox does everything any other browser does while being fully open-source.
It is also the most flexible one of all the major browsers.

I don't see a point in switching to anything else just for the sake of it.

>>108967867
>>108968002
>>108968155
>>108968053
>>108970431
>literal brave shills
Why are these chrome-reskin faggots even on /g/? Does brave give them bravecoins for advertising here?

I have over 7k tabs open in firefox and it's still working fine without crashing or slowdown.

>>108971963
>chrome-reskin
Still waiting for a single valid reason this is supposed to be a bad thing. The problems with Chrome are from its UI and non-tweakables, not its rendering or js engine.
>something something google
It's standards compliant. Also get a job and you might understand that company is just the plural of people but actually getting paid.

>>108972040
>Still waiting for a single valid reason this is supposed to be a bad thing.
Google-run (any bigv tech, really) monopolies are bad. See: Manifest v3

>>108972209
Manifest V3 (by which you actually mean the deprecation of webRequestBlocking) is a perfect example of why your schizo delusions shouldn't be taken seriously. Edge, Brave, Opera, Vivaldi, and I'm sure others that I haven't checked all still support it fine, and Chrome itself still supports it fine with flags as of last I checked this morning. There is one web, there should be one web browser. It is more like infrastructure than a good or service.

>>108971963
I do it for free

>>108968299
Not that anon, there are some uBlock features that Brave doesn't support. On their github, you can track them using the "uBO-parity" label.
https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust/issues?q=state%3Aopen%20label%3A%22uBO-parity%22
https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust/issues/1#issuecomment-1506072935
IMO the most important one is the inline script tag filtering. uBlock's HTML filtering is so much better than Brave's
https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust/issues/4
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Inline-script-tag-filtering

ungoogled chromium

>>108972234
>There is one web, there should be one web browser. It is more like infrastructure than a good or service.
Do you not understand the concept of a User-Agent? The web was never designed to be only accessible from one agent. Why should we start now?

>>108967578
Unironically firefox is the least shit browser there is.

Edge is filled with slop that forces you to use Microsoft services unless you spend hours fixing it.

Brave has shit syncing with mobile and pc parity

Vivaldi ui is convoluted as hell and requires custom css to work with

Chrome

Opera is Chinese spyware and their social managers are

>>108967578
Brave is legit the best browser out there - the only other browser that's better yet is Vanadium, but unless you're a GrapheneOS chad, you can't use it.

>>108967907
>Waterfox
I've been on waterfox for a few years. It's like firefox but with mostly sane defaults. You can just copy profiles over too.

>>108967578
everything else is even worse

>>108967578
Helium. De-googled chromium fork that's, surprisingly, not shit.

switch between browsers every few months because they all suck and you keep forgetting

>>108973866
doesn't matter. use dns blockingn and be free like me.