>67.7% of users use Windows>ability to disable most telemetryMeanwhile, 2-4% of users use Linux for their personal computer.That means your fingerprint is much more distinct using a Linux machine vs Windows. You stand out from 97% of users based on Operating System alone.Remind me again how Windows is the devil for privacy?
>>108968907>implying my useragent isn't set to windows regardless of the os underneathYour point? Also the OS is now just a minute facet of the fackload of ways your ass get fingerprinted.
Unlike 15 years ago, the typical linux user these days is a zoomer who found out about it from a tiktok video, and doesn’t even know how to secure it. They’re certainly not going to *audit the code* or learn how the system works. Forget about the OS though, they’ll switch to linux for ‘muh privacy’ and then load up a web browser and sign on to a million services.
>>108968929Changing your fingerprint in your browser to match Windows is pointless. If you have Javascript enabled, websites can always put together what Operating System you are using regardless what is sent in the User-Agent string. Not to mention, the extra extension is another variable added to the fingerprint itself.
>>108968907>>108968935The privacy that you gaign with linux is against the microsoft vector at os level, of course getting anally probed each time you surf the web is another issue altogether (and one that, at this point, doesn't have a solution regardless of the os).
>>108968972Depends on the change, i made some test and some ways are more effective than others
Sure, you gain privacy, but then you end up installing Steam, DirectX libraries and all that other junk from Windows too.
>>108968907"Privacy" is quite binary. You're either doing best-known practices and taking a maximilist approach, or you're doing nothing.t. nothing
>>108968997Maybe doing nothing is the right thing depending on the circumstances. The more complicated your setup, the more likely something is to fail or the more likely you are to forget to do something (maximilist).There are also several cases of "blending with the crowd" being superior to "objectively best" (look at robberies, lot more likely to get away with a robbery in a very crowded city during daytime vs night time when no one is around because there's also no one to blend with).
>>108968907you'd have had a point 15 years ago. now? the overwhelming majority of people on the planet use android (linux) to go online. even in the first world, most people would rather phonefag than sit down at their computer at home.
>>108969023I’m not sure we can call Android users “people”, but you’re right that people prefer their phones.
>>108969023Phones are easily distinguishable from operating systems. You can easily tell it's an android phone vs a linux computer from a website and network analysis level.
>>108968907YOU RETARD YOU USE WINDOWS BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID SMART PEOPLE USE LINUX YOU CANT BECAUSE YOUR TO STUPID YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT PRIVACY
>>108969035Holy midwit spergout.
>>108968907MS will straight up steal your bitlocker keys and give them to authorities. Telemetry is a fraction of their privacy problems.
>>108969031it's real easy to make your linux system seem like android to websites, anon. surely you can find a guide on your own or just ask your AI slop engine of choice for a howto
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>>108969045Can you prove him wrong? You even have any sources? Nobody here has links to any sources so nobody can lay absolute claim to be technically correct on any basis in reality if they lack a degree in the subject matter. Sources sir. Do you have them?
>>108969061icle
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>>108969017Perhaps I'm a retard but I don't understand this. Even if you're still blending in they still know everything about you, yet even if you're having a modicum of privacy say relatively easy stuff like using linux, hardened browser, vpn etc) they might see that you're using privacy tools but they still won't know the data
>>108969060It's also really easy for websites to discern if it's an actual android device or just being simulated/spoofed. There is a reason there is a market for spoofing browsers. The technology websites have to detect if it's a real device or not is beyond what is available to spoof the device.
>>108969084Mad delusional wincels point and laugh they can't make linux work I switched to Linux a few months ago and it plays all my games and runs chrome so... Works on my machine I guess?
>>108969097there wouldn't be such a heavy push for (((remote device attestation))) if that was true
>>108969095You can use a VPN and privacy tools on Windows.
>>108969102Yeah, anybody would want cryptographic proof over statistical probability. That doesn't discount the fact that there are thousands of vectors in Javascript alone to consider while spoofing in order to actually get a good probable score of a non-spoofed device.
>>108969180Not to mention, modern network analysis is enough to fingerprint your OS without even needing a browser.
>>108968907>Remind me again how Windows is the devil for privacy?Because being able to disable "most" telemetry is insufficient. Kind of obvious, for people who aren't idiots like you.
>>108968907>Microsoft Stockholm SyndromeIt's honestly a little embarrassing that you think hiding in a crowd of other victims somehow makes you safe from the guy who built the crowd. You can't disable telemetry in Windows or macOS. Microsoft literally ignores your toggles, hardcodes tracking into the kernel, and silently turns it back on after every major update. Do you think Apple and Microsoft (Palantir, NSA/CIA/FBI etc.) are so low iq and stupid that they can't go around some users "debloat" and "disable" toggles? Of course they assume people will try all these things. It’s actually wild that you’re so fixated on some third-party website noticing your "distinct fingerprint" that you completely glossed over the fact that Windows acts as a root-level keylogger for Redmond. If you genuinely cannot comprehend the difference between a tracker profiling your browser, and an Operating System that literally owns your hardware scraping your local files, logging your keystrokes, and selling your metadata to advertisers... I honestly feel bad for you. Maybe step away from the corporate propaganda before you completely lose your grip on how computers actually work. Linux respects your boundaries and is fundamentally built on privacy; Windows is just spyware with a GUI. Keep telling yourself you're "safe" in the crowd while Microsoft picks your pockets.Enjoy your "encrypted data" and "disabled telemetry". Holy shit just install Linux with LUKS and stfu.
>>108968907You know... there is more than just a fingerprint?!
>>108969084It's the opposite. On the right and left you have Linux and macOS (or any other Unix) and the midwit is just windows.
One thing I've learned from this board is that being a Linux user is a miserable existence. You don't really enjoy using your computer, you just constantly froth at the mouth over the fact that Windows exists and that people use Windows instead of Linux. It would be sad if it wasn't a perpetually self-inflicted wound.
>>108968907I use linux because microslop has no taste, not because I’m delided enough to believe glownigs didn’t manage to insert their men into a project with tens of thousands of random people from all around the world, many of which are anonymous while contributing.It’s enough that linux will never upsell me on onedrive or sneakily enable winblows recall or spam ads in my statt menu or whatever the fuck. If you want privacy keep the computer offline.
>>108968907I just want a professional paid OS again. I just want a modern Snow Leopard moment.
Apple iPhones and iOS are the biggest 1984 Orwellian dystopia surveillance botnet on earth and record every word you say, every step you take, every byte of data you transmit, track everything you do, with Google coming in a close second.If you LARP as caring about privacy while still using spyPhone and spyOS or stock android, you're a hypocrite with zero privacy.
>>108969644This. And for the tasks linux handles well, Windows gives you WSL2 and also Hyper-V. I really hate dual booting and maintaining duplicate environments.
>>108969388>It's honestly a little embarrassing that you think hiding in a crowd of other victims somehow makes you safe from the guy who built the crowd. You can't disable telemetry in Windows or macOS. Microsoft literally ignores your toggles, hardcodes tracking into the kernel, and silently turns it back on after every major update. Do you think Apple and Microsoft (Palantir, NSA/CIA/FBI etc.) are so low iq and stupid that they can't go around some users "debloat" and "disable" toggles? Of course they assume people will try all these things. It’s actually wild that you’re so fixated on some third-party website noticing your "distinct fingerprint" that you completely glossed over the fact that Windows acts as a root-level keylogger for Redmond.Where is the proof to these claim? Have you actually tested to see if the computer is sending data to Microsoft domains even after you configure your hostfile to block them?
>>108969589This cant be, fireship would told me if so, nice try glowtardWindows is the true way to use a private OS with no telemetry, secure. Use WINDOWS!
>>108968907>use a Windows useragentWhat now?
>>108968972You can use scripts to block or change those scripts.
>>108969607Imagine seething at a meme.>Nooooo akshuallly….
>>108970132Microsoft literally sends user data through ports 80 and 443, you can't detect any of that with Wireshark or other tools. Also Microsoft obviously does data dumps when possible, it can be silent for three years and then dump 50 MB via calculator when it has some excuse. Or when you need to accept literally anything like authentication token generation, it will fail if you deny and if you allow, it can dump multiple megabytes of user data that it has collected during the year. It is insane how stupid you Windows users are. IT IS A FUCKING PALANTIR PRODUCT YOU FUCKING RETARD. Use Windows China Government Edition Enterprise G if you want something that is not connected directly to NSA, CIA, FBI, US government, Palantir and other Israel entities. Even that is still retarded when you can just use Linux you FUCKING RETARD.
>>108968907Remember when it was over 90%GEGLiteral dying shitheap, abandon it while you can
>>108970267>Microsoft literally sends user data through ports 80 and 443I've been in the discourse for Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC for years and I've never heard of this discussed or tested
>>108970267>use linuxthis u?
>>108969035>SMART PEOPLE USECommas and periods on their sentences, as well as apostrophes where appropriate.Is that the average IQ of a Linux user? Pretty disappointing for a bunch of nerds who constantly brag about their OS being better than the competition.I'm a Windows Chad btw, naturally.
>>108970354It's been tested and proven but they have never proven what information it's exporting. The best thing they can do is block all updates and connections to microsoft servers
>>108968907I don't use linux for privacy, i use it because it works better than Windows on my machine.
>>108970212>>108968977neither of you do this stop larping
>>108970674AMD/Intel?
>>108970647>It's been tested and provenMay I seee it?
>>108970795AMD everything and i'm cursed.Everytime i just try to use win10+ normally, it fall apart.
>Some things are bad so you shouldn't fix the things you can fix!Privacy isn't all or nothing. Linux is objectively better than Windows for the OS component of your stack. Mitigating some things is better than mitigating nothing at all!
>>108971270Linux is full of holes due to its design, unless you go full schizo with qubes and the like. The average linux setup might not upload your Documents to OneDrive but that’s about all it gets you as far as privacy goes.Amusingly both ios and android are far more secure, it’s just that both apple and google siphon off all your data so the OS itself having proper containerization and separation is meaningless.
>>108968907>You stand out from 97% of users based on Operating System alone.You are comparing a private by default OS to Windows where every keystroke is being recorded, with lot's of telemetry and usage data sent back to MS, where your HWID is tied to your Windows Installation and every Site you visit is internally logged.are you really complaining about a "too unique" fingerprint? This is just one layer of security. A VPN doesn't help you on windows, MS will always know your "real" IP address and they will hand out your encryption keys.
>>108971305>Fixing linux's issues is being a schizo>Fixing Window's issues is fine though
>>108970354>Windows 10 Enterprise LTSCNTA, but yes, this is much better than home/pro. But there is something interesting happening on Win11 IoT LTSC, I think M$ knows if it's a real enterprise vs a home user, because they push experimental updates on the LTSC channel now (without activating preview). Probably because of the recent LTSC hype, or this could be a bug, I don't know. But yes, you still don't get major updates and will stay on 24h2. And in the end you still have to trust check boxes and toggles with "Disable tracking".
>>108970354>>108970373
>>108970267>Windows China Government Edition Enterprise G>Don't like spying? Use the incredibly instrumented spyware version built specifically for the CCPWhat makes you think this is a good idea. Before you type something stupid out, know I was there when we pitched G SKU to the Chinese gov.
>>108970267This is retarded. 1 - You can monitor any traffic that exits and enters your network as long as you OWN the router. 2 - You can block out traffic on a router level (see above with OWNING the router).>>108969388Implying Linux hasn't already been corrupted by spyware or government agents (see Ubuntu with kernel level adware)Not to mention the backdoors not foundJust because it's open source doesn't mean the source has been 100% looked through. Good luck looking through the million lines of spaghetti Linux code by yourself (hint: you won't).The only time this is viable is if you use a *BSD, which, good luck not using some sort of linux program ON TOP of the *BSD to even get most programs working.The introduction of Linux to the mainstream is bringing a flood of retards (mentioned above). Just because you saw Pewdiepie switch to it doesn't make you an expert in security or privacy .
>>108968907>You don't blend in with 67.7% of Windows usersThat's a relief.
>67stopped reading at there
>>108968935>then load up a web browser and sign on to a million services.how do you use a computer in a useful way?
>>108968907>67.7% of users use WindowsThere's no way it's only 67.7%. 90% is the bare minimum.
>>108974295>Implying Linux hasn't already been corrupted by spyware or government agents (see Ubuntu with kernel level adware)NTA, but it's true. Linux is our savior.>Not to mention the backdoors not foundLike in every other OS? At least it's public and the whole world relies on Linux, yes even MS and Apple, Intel, AMD, Amazon, Google and MANY, MANY more, they have full time paid working motherfuckers to make sure it's secure. *sneaks in backdoor*, the most used tools are HEAVILY audited.>million lines of spaghetti Linux codeNot spaghetti at all, do you mean the Linux kernel? The clean code initiative kicks out old and unreadable code, even fucking white spacing gets rejected. But yes, there is some stuff with larger, hard to read codebases like x11. But the linux kernel is clean, but bloated.>BSD, which, good luck not using some sort of linux program ON TOP of the *BSD to even get most programs working.Werks perfectly fine, or do you need proprietary slave ware? child games? Just kidding, but don't bash (hehe) linux, like how can you even defend cuck operating systems? Are you really a fucking MS slave? Why do you cope so hard, Linux is objectively more secure and private. You have make up some "backdoor" shit, when it's literally proven that MS is working with 3 letter agencies, have you forgotten what Snowden told us?>The introduction of Linux to the mainstream is bringing a flood of retardstruth nuke
>>108969388>You can't disable telemetry in Windows or macOS. Microsoft literally ignores your toggles, hardcodes tracking into the kernel, and silently turns it back on after every major updateI just double checked that, it's true. And this is just the obvious shit "privacy toggles" lmfao. I thought Microshaft is the only evil one, but turns out Apple does the same shit.
>>108974583Mac? Linux? Chromebooks? BSD?
Every breath you takewww.inverse.com/article/16929-apple-watch-will-now-remind-ou-to-breatheEvery move you makewww.stopspying.org/latest-news/2021/10/1/stop-condemns-apple-for-tracking-iphone-location-when-turned-offEvery bond you breakacecilia.medium.com/apple-is-sending-a-request-to-their-servers-for-every-piece-of-software-you-run-on-your-mac-b0bb509eee65Every step you takewww.komando.com/security-privacy/secret-map-tracking-apple/465598I'll be watching youarchive.is/2024.10.10-000653/https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2024/10/09/apple-sells-privacy-to-consumers-but-its-quietly-helping-police-use-iphones-for-surveillanceEvery single dayhttps://sneak.berlin/20230115/macos-scans-your-local-files-nowEvery word you saywww.foxbusiness.com/technology/apples-siri-is-eavesdropping-on-your-conversations-putting-users-at-riskEvery game you playtechstory.in/apple-slammed-by-epic-games-chief-for-spyware-toolsEvery night you staywww.thehackernews.com/2017/10/iphone-camera-spying.htmlI'll be watching youwww.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/11/apple-sued-for-pervasive-and-unlawful-data-trackingOh, cant you seeYou belong to metruthout.org/articles/apple-employee-blows-whistle-on-illegal-spying-and-toxic-working-conditionsHow my poor heart achesWith every step you takenakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/08/13/siri-is-listening-to-you-but-shes-not-spying-says-appleEvery move you makegizmodo.com/apple-iphone-ipad-privacy-problems-data-gatheringEvery vow you breakappleinsider.com/articles/16/09/29/apple-acknowledges-tracking-imessage-metadata-and-sharing-it-with-law-enforcementEvry smile you fakeabc4.com/news/tech-social-media/yes-your-iphone-is-taking-invisible-pictures-of-youEvery claim you stakewonderfulengineering.com/u-s-apple-store-employees-are-working-to-unionize-and-theyre-using-android-phones-to-keep-apple-from-spying-on-themI'll be watching youhttps://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours
>>108968907No one cares about your data.
>>108975100Ok schizo. Describe me who i am
>>108975100scary
>>108968907>Ability to disable most telemetry>MostHmm... Nice try sloppy nutella!
>>108975027>>108975060>>108975216Lets say hypothetically, the government was building a profile on the person most likely to be a predator. Would they:A. Narrow their profile to that of an operating system of someone attempting to hide their tracks in every way imaginable B. Expand their profile to the operating system of the massesIt's a lot easier to hide in a haystack as a needle then it is to build an invisibility cloak. You can never be invisible online, and based on that, you'd much rather make it statistically harder to differentiate who you are from a large crowd then it is to make some sort of invisibility spell as it just makes you stand out more in the end."The farther you run from something the closer it gets" - the more you hide, the more eyes on you
>>108975171You're a retarded faggot, stick to Windows cause you deserve it
This is like ignoring the cctv cameras all around you to complain about some filimng in public. Fingerprinting can be mitigated and even if it's possible to track you still most services won't bother that much, they want to extract money from people not stalk some schizo who doesn't buy anything.
>>108975294This is just one problem of the bigger picture. If you browse the open web, it's expected to be tracked and profiled (depending on the websites). Yes, you are more unique if you use Linux + Firefox, than a Windows user + Chrome. But if you want real anonymity, you wouldn't even use a normal machine anyway. Point is: Yes, you are "sticking out", but the main reason is: to escape the OS level spying, the browser spying. Every fucking Keystroke, every website you visit, all of that shit is tracked on the OS and Browser level, this is enough for me to use alternatives, even if I have "nothing to hide".
>>108975514Please link sources for "every keystroke" being logged by Microsoft. If you really wanted to, you could block out all outbound connections to Microsoft servers from a firewall (and still see that not many requests go out besides basic telemetry and other services like Windows Update). It does have tracking I admit.>>108975390But, like this says "not stalk some schizo who doesn't buy anything". This actually supports my claim. It's better to have your data in "the system" like the rest of the normies vs not because it's a red flag that sticks out to investigators if it is not.
>>108975551>investigators
Problem solved. Now what Linuxtard ?
>>108975551>it's better to be spied on than not!You glow hard, nigger.
>>108975551Microsoft released Recall to the public and it takes a screenshot every 5sec, but logging keystrokes seems like it's too much? This is common, for years. Yes, even on Android. This is a bit schizo, but think about it: Speech to text recognition became so good, that in theory they could put all your spoken works in a small 1kb text file and upload it the next time.>It's better to have your data in "the system" like the rest of the normies vs not because it's a red flag that sticks out to investigators if it is not.You have such a weird mindset. I feel so sorry for you. And no, I don't want to do all those fake disable buttons, weird privacy and debloat scripts and fucking with the firewall. In the end it doesn't even matter, Microsoft is the Hypervisor, MS will always know and is always able to. It's much more profitable for MS to pay the annual privacy violation fees, than removing/fixing them. Your data is the most valuable thing in the modern world. You are fucking naive, but I wish I were more like you... all this shit is so tiring. And it's MUCH worse to have a linked account / microsoft license to your dictionary and browsing history, this is so valuable for 3rd parties and advertisements, but also scary af.
>>108970264Seething is the right thing to do.
>>108975643Recall is all locally saved, not sent to any servers."naive" how so? Take time and research what the feature is instead of filling in a blank then using that as justification "oh they do this so they must do that". Of course data is profitable, there is data on everybody no matter what. There is no getting away from that and mitigations against that are a drop of water to the ocean.
>>108975778>Recall is all locally saved, not sent to any servers.Says who? Microslop?>There is no getting away from that You sound like a raped goycattle
>>108975813Google it.There really is no getting away from data collection, step outside and you're on camera. It's no wonder you're tired, fight a losing war and you're bound to burnout.
>>108975778Okay, I tried everything I can, anon. I hope I see you on Linux soon. Have a good life. I won't respond anymore, I don't want to be in any of your M$ database. Dodging questions + strawmanning. Ragebait or retard.stop being so naive this >>108975813
>>108975839I don't give a fuck, loser. I'm simply never gonna use Windows again.
