Every vibe coder thinks every other person programming with AI is using it wrong, and they're the only person on the planet using it correctly. This should give them pause, but it never does. Everyone else just happens to be pushing out slop, but THEIR commits are different.
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>>108971295> vibe coder thinks every other person programming with AI is using it wrongEvery non vibe coder person also think that though.
>>108971295I do this
>>108971449I do too up-dittlely-doot
>>108971449But do you also look like Cole Phelps? And why did I instinctively know how to write that motherfuckers name?
>>108971295The real issue at hand has nothing to do with AI use. It's entirely about the amount of effort that is honestly being expended for the sake of the project.Someone could know jack-shit about coding and still leverage AI assistance to make something genuinely impressive... IF they're spending all those coding hours saved rigorously feeding their vibe code slop through multiple red-teaming AI assistants, gradually hammering the code out into something respectable. Again, it's just a matter of effort. Coder or vibe coder, hasty work is slop. I'll grant you this, though: vibe coding does make it more tempting for people to push onward rather than spend effort red-teaming their own shit.
>>108971295>Every vibe coder thinks every other person programming with AI is using it wrongNo I don't. I just buse what works for my little side projects. Stop interacting with idiots that care about GitHub stars.
>>108971295The entire premise of the vibe coder's "left behind" meme makes no sense at all in fact being a vibe coder in itself is an irrational position. Ultimately there are two scenarios: Scenario one, LLMs are/become so good that they are able to replace manual coding completely, in that case a vibe coder is nothing more than a useless intermediary between the model and the output, the difference between software A and software B becomes ultimately just a question of how many tokens are you able to afford. Scenario two, LLMs cannot replace manual coding, in which case vibe coders have deskilled and dopamine exhausted (assuming they had any skills previously) themselves to such a point that they cannot program or think without an LLM anymore meaning they will be forever trapped to the costs and limitations of an LLM. >B-but I'm just doing it for myself for funOkay, but why, you're just watching something else produce what you wanted, you're not learning anything, you're not engaging with anything you're just mindlessly watching your money burn for slop no one cares about. Required effort used to gate useless ideas, now everyone just slops useless mountains of shit that no one will ever use
>>108971295I really don't understand why everyone makes their own memory system or whatever I mean yes sure competition and diversity is good but most of this junk is just bad clones
>>108972722>Okay, but whyBecause some of us aren't miserable faggots yet enjoy our hobbies (women or even have hobbies till the game with)?
>>108972722You're expecting vibe coders to have critical thinking skills.
>>108971295I’m vibin’ every day and I’m sure I’m using it wrong>>108971762>vibe coding does make it more tempting for people to push onward rather than spend effort red-teaming their own shit.not for meif it’s wrong, and I notice, I fix itcurrently I’m annoyed because so much is wrong and I can’t write tests for all the stuff that’s wrong so I’m trying to figure out how to rewrite things so they can’t be wrong
>>108972722Criminally based post. Watch out for this razor sharp anon.
>>108972722this post is intensely autism coded
>>108976751Melty
>>108971295I actually think that because I can use it well, I surely can't be the only person who has figured this out, there must be more.My theory is that people who use it well are good at communication, and if you are good at communication you are to some degree self aware, and if you are self aware you know that>publicly outing yourself as a vibe coder can carry harsh social penalties>the tech isn't perfect yet so making a big fuss about it is setting yourself up to be picked apart due to mediocre code or a humiliating fumble.I have seriously fucked up MULTIPLE times in ways that, while recoverable thanks to safety parameters, would be mocked endlessly if I was constantly tweeting about my shit. Anyone who uses this stuff intelligently is keeping their mouths shut because they have the cognizance to realize they don't benefit from proclaiming themselves a vibe coder. Just get it working, ship it, reap the benefits. If people find out, let them do it AFTER they've experienced the working product.
>>108976992What are you even shippingJust because you can cobble together some vibe coded slop doesn't mean it's good
>>108976996I won't out myself but I've made a very popular video game mod that has mysteriously gotten way more in depth in the past three months or so, rocketing up even further and pulling even more patreon money. I genuinely don't understand the code, but I understand the game I am modding very well, and I know how to use the modding tools, but not a true coding language, which is required to bring out the game's potential. To use a general example, say I want randomly generated HP for insect-class monsters following certain parameters, so I walk the LLM through the process and then independently very that every mechanic I have added works precisely as I envisioned. If there's a bug, I bring it up (and I check the debug report, because I always have these scripts I make come with debug logs) and iterate through fixes until the bug goes away and everything works as it should. Now imagine doing this 100 times for various new features, keeping them modular and documented, at a speed that would be impossible even if I actually knew how to code. If I run into something I truly can't fix, it has always been a game bug or completely undocumented information. >this isn't a valid use caseIt made number go up and people go wow, I don't know what to tell you. Worth all the shit AI has brought upon us? Maybe not, so you won't see me going to bat for it.
>>108977024>independently very*independently verify
>>108976961that’s as melty as a Gordon Ramsay grilled-cheese sandwich
>>108971295It's not just coders. Lots of writers have that same delusion, cranking out tons of shitty books that will never be read because now the market is getting flooded with them. Even established authors are doing this, thinking their fans will be happy with AI slop if the author's name is on the cover.
