Install Gentoo

>>108976754
>Install gentoo

U prolly dont even use gentoo, LARP

Don’t expect it to be/work/behave like windows

>>108976743
Most distro hopping is caused by people looking for the right desktop environment.
Figure out which DE you want first, then choose your distribution.

if you have the time and inclination, avoid the distros that hide the technical parts, It's important to familiarise yourself with the underlying system tools and how to make the system do what you want, but it's also fun to try out the different *n*x flavours and distros because they all have slightly different philosophies that impact their implementations.

Though to borrow from the great sage U Ruckus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxlMFsw1OfY

>>108976814
Very significant point.
Figuring out what you want all the way from the full KDE ecosystem to something barebones like openbox or cwm is going to have far more impact on how you feel about the system rather than the what underlying distro looks like.

>>108976743
Don't blindly follow AI advice when troubleshooting a problem. You'll end up with tons of old, outdated and potentially dangerous programs installed that don't even solve the problem you came to it with. LLMs also have a habit of recommending 0 star github programs that haven't been updated in years just because they vaguely match what you said you need.

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Advice for intermediate users: Eventually you'll want to fuck around with window managers instead of a DE, you'll try installing one and launching it directly, and it will feel extremely barebones, you might even get stuck there because you forgot to configure the terminal (in which case you press ctrl alt f6 or something like this). But, you don't HAVE to launch it directly, specially when you're first trying it and configuring it, you can launch it from another DE, just go in your terminal and type "hyprland" for example, and it works kinda like a VM of your own computer.
You can set special window settings for it, so your DE shortcuts won't mess with the WM, then add a shortcut to exit or minimize the WM and you can use both together even. I thought that was very neat, thank you for your attention.

sudo snap install Boku no Pico

>>108976743
Don't do distro hopping.
Everything you can do on distro A, you can also do on distro B.

As long as its not an immutable distro, if you fell for an immutable one, get fucked.

>>108976743
when shit stops working hop back to windows.

>>108976995
what do you actually recommend then, if not AI?

Always have a liveusb around so when you fuck your shit up you can boot in and copy your files out.

>>108976743
Use immutable distros.

>>108977379
>he thinks they're user-friendly

>>108976743
Try Linux Mint, it works just fine on my 3080 and from the first day I installed it I felt like my computer was actually mine again, it was no longer just some microsoft thrall device.

Don't use systemd-free distro, none of them just werks

>>108977441
I tried installing one on my laptop last year, and every attempt failed for completely different reasons, so I gave up and just installed Mint XFCE.

>>108976743
Just use WSL.

>>108977441
Artix worked fine for me, back when I tried it out in the late 2010s. Tho then and now, 95% of my Linux experience is Gentoo, so I'm much familiar with openrc than systemd.

>>108976743
read the damn wiki(s), good ones are arch wiki or gentoo they have all the information you need

>>108977280
>what do you actually recommend then, if not AI?
installing gentoo using the handbook

>>108977652
I installed gentoo in your mom's anus last night

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>>108976743
Figure out what you need beforehand because linux distros aren't a one size fit for everything (that's the main reason there are many of them). Just as anything else, there are compromises to be made when making an informed choice, that doesn't mean you can't have a generalist drop-in windows replacement using linux (in fact there are many distro that specifically cather to that, eg: zorinos, mint/ubuntu, openmandriva etc...) but that it's way easier to start from what you already know you'll need than working your way towards it. For example, do you want to game on linux? Bazzite, cachyos, steamos, etc... Do you want to learn some enterprise solutions? Fedora, alma/rocky, opensuse. Do you want to resurrect old hardware? Puppy, tinycore, devuan, etc... You get the idea.

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>>108977652
to expand on that I stopped distro hopping after installing gentoo and also learned a bunch of stuff
it went something like mint sabayon gentoo

>>108977441
Plenty of 'tard-tier just werk systemdless distro, eg: pclinuxos, mxlinux, salix, even devuan and artix if you don't give a shit about minutia of particulars in configuration, you can just blindly install them and you're good to go. That said i wouldn't suggest using a non-systemd distro from the get go, not because it won't work but because putting someone in more exotic niches without reasons is just like giving a solution in search of a problem.

Don't reinstall your OS just to have a certain "look" or a certain desktop. You can rice any distro to look like anything. Make backups with something like Timeshift and experiment.

>>108977777
holy quints

Okay linuxtroons this is your moment to convert me. I just got a shitty new little laptop and it comes with Windows 11, I had been on XP, then 7, then 10, and I really don't like 11. I'm going to keep 10 on my desktop but I'm thinking about trooning out this laptop, can you recommend me a basic ass distro PRIMARILY to save disk space since I have 128gb and 40 of those are fucking w11. Also I presume no issue running a few light games on steam on most linux distros in ytol 2026.

I need this laptop working in less than a few days so something without a lot of setup, because I don't want to troubleshoot it to hell right now.

Mint? Bazzite?

>>108977795
And maybe I'll have to suck it up and hold off on it for now because I really don't want to brick it or get bogged down in troubleshooting drivers and shit when I need this laptop to be working, even though I really don't want to be on W11

>>108977795
ubuntu 26.04

>>108976743
Use Mint.
Do not install tranny distros.
Enjoy it while it lasts soon troons will rewrite half of the shit in Rust and whole Linux dies as it is because Linus is faggot.

>>108977795
Mint. Gaming distros are mostly memes. The only thing they do is they allow you to game in 5 minutes instead of 10. Mİnt has better support than Bazzite etc. and has been around for longer so you can expect the developers to not fuck something up in the future.

>>108977795
Debian is light. Backports has newer kernels/mesa. Don't run Testing/Unstable yet.

>>108977795
>troon, trooning trooonix
Ok, chimera os or nixos

>>108976743
it's safe to assume whoever is giving you advice (outside of man/docs/wikis) knows less than you. this was true before the age of LLM's or the big jeetfestation of the internet. so it's probably infinitely worse now.
actual knowledgable users don't "distrohop" or hang out in beginner spaces.

>>108977813
>ubuntu 26.04
I don't even meet the requirements on this 4th hand dell.

>>108977823
Didn't they kicked like half of their contributors because they were opposing some lefty shit. KEKEL or it was Cachy ? I don't know but im staying away from this troon gay shit. Mint just werks.

>>108977849
>Mint just werks
On many newer devices, this is unfortunately now untrue.

>>108977795
1. Massgrave.dev
2. Download Windows 10 LTSC
3. Download activator script.
4. Download Rufus.
5. Open Rufus put Windows 10 LTSC on USB.
6. Wipe the whole cringe W11 out and install W10 LTSC.
7. After installation run activator script.
8. Enjoy performance.

I have my lenovo T460 on W10 LTSC and it works just great and im playing most of the shit there.

>>108977867
Thank you very much I will be looking into doing this I reckon. Best Linux advice itt.

>>108977867
Windows 10 is the worst windows since Windows ME. At least 11 fixed many usability issues with the shell.

>>108977883
Linux is okay but when you are long time windows user and you just don't want to deal with bullshit 10 LTSC is still best way.

>>108977897
I'm just kidding. If I had more time I might look to do the linux change but LTSC looks fine for what I need right now, thanks

>>108977905
Yup. Enjoy.

fuck off we're full

>>108977917
of troons

>>108976743
Stick with Windows, we're full

>>108977777
checekd

Test out virtual machines instead of installing it on hardware

>>108978019
the spirit lives

>>108977753
why do you censor mundane things ?

>>108976743
Install Gentoo, it's not that hard
Install Devuan (not Debian) for thing to just work
or Debian if you are forced to

try OpenBSD.

>>108977795
>basic distro
>easy installation
>games must work
cachyOS
if you are asked what desktop environment choose: KDE Plasma (u can change this anytime)

>>108978114
in this case they are not mundane

>>108978175
I understand u do it for ursername and host but whats the point of censoring WM and icon theme?

>>108978136
>try OpenBSD.
openbsd is really stupidly easy to install and remarkably simple to navigate and customise.
But you've got to read a lot and some of the mannerisms don't translate from linux tutorials even if the tools have the same names.

>>108976743
Give up. Switch back to Windows/Mac and live your life.

>>108978136
>Install Devuan (not Debian) for thing to just work
I'm pretty out the loop whats the issue with normal Debian?

>>108978185
wm is very snowflake and icontheme is a dumb name I rage-gave it while trying to make some gnome application respect my theming

>>108976743
everything is easy as long as you are not an idiot

>>108977795
Mint is fine. One thing you gotta know about Linux: it's for power users. I don't know why everyone obscures this fact nowadays, but if you want "simple" stick with Windows/Mac. You're gonna have to learn how a computer works and you're gonna have to learn the "Linux way" of doing things. You WILL have to read documentation. You WILL have to use terminal. You WILL have to fuck with config files. I've been using Linux for almost 20 years now and it breaks less than it used to, but it still breaks and I fix it. It's like working on your own car, sometimes it's great, sometimes it sucks, and you gotta spend time learning. If all of this sounds annoying to you - don't install Linux. Not trying to gatekeep, those are just the facts.

P.S. Archwiki will usually have solutions for the most common issues, even if you're not using Arch.

>>108978204
Poojeeta with no real coding ability and a murky political history took over the foundation with the stated goal to give debian foundation money to more jeet coders after the white guy who also applied got dirty tricksed out of the running then the dev cucks crowbed her instead of demanding a rerun.
also something about systemd but I don;t really pay much attention so maybe there's more to it

>>108978236
>crowbed
*crowned

>>108976743
learn bash

>>108978204
one of problem with Debian is the forced use of SystemD, while Devuan offers a choice: initv/openrc/systemd.

Devuan respects your choices.
Also they are (going to) support LibreX (not just X and Wayland).

Also they do NOT have stupid programs such as "debian woman"

>>108978236
Well I had a fucking stroke reading this, but thanks lol yeah I'll look into it

>>108978235
I'm not past troubleshooting and working things out which is why I've considered but I'm definitely doing LTSC so I can keep running Windows10 and save some disk space on this piece of shit office dell.

>>108978114
>>108978185
there absolutely are schizos on this board who'll doxx you by icon theme out of sheer boredom

>>108976743
Stick with intel wifi cards

What is a linux mint alternative that doesn't force you into Wayland

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>>108977441
>>108977569

>>108977913
Thanks bro, it's super clean.

go back to windows

>>108976743
Shut the fuck up and RTFM.
You need no other advice.

>>108978374
Uhh... linux mint.

>>108976743
>What is one peice of advice you would give to new linux users
buy a mac

>>108976743
Never use meme distros, never use meme software, never touch config text files or gui configs with knobs.
Operating system's job is to run your software. If it cannot, it's trash. Abandon it and use something that can run your software.

>>108976743
>rtfm
>stop distrohopping and choose a good distro for you
>if in doubt use debian
>install gentoo unironically
>learn how to use the CLI and automate by scripting
>have at least a general idea how linux works, so if a problem occurs you can have an idea how to solve it
>all the memes about linux not working are not true, unless you've got some unsupported hardware, then that's a (YOU) problem
>be patient and understand that open source is not a charity, if you find a bug report it, or better send them a patch, no one owes you any thing.
>stay with the ye old reliable software over the "blazingly fast :rocket: written in rust :crab:" bullshit.
>understand the UNIX philosophy, but be not a fanatic and be more pragmatic.
>take this opportunity to learn and experience, a computer is not just a tool to do your slave job, but it's a new extension to your brain.
>Understand how the opensource world is about openness and extension, don't just download the binary and forget, but dig deeper and understand how things work and contribute to it.

Linux et al are more than a new OS, but a new way to approach computing. Don't seek a replacement for windows or mac, but understand this new opensource environment, with linux being just an OS for it.

>>108979247
>RTFM
open your console/terminal emulator and enter

man intro

read it

man hier

read it

man bash

read it
...
continue reading manpages!

>>108976743
Try some Windows/macOS versions of existing free apps first
Once you're familiar with them, then it'll smoothen the process

>>108979778
>Anon I just want to use a computer that isn't gardenwalled or microslopped.
What the fuck does the average person do when they realise Apple and Microshit are both terrible in their own ways, and they want an alternative?

>>108979807
Maybe use some corporate backed distro that just werks, like ubuntu or fedora. With something like KDE or GNOME (never use gnome).

>>108979859
what about gnome gtk2 mate?

>>108980045
If you want something light weight and gtk use xfce4, I'd say ubuntu/debian + xfce is one of the best combinations in linux.

>>108976743
Don't use Debian

don't watch youtubers
don't go on reddit
don't become an ideological faggot and have strong opinions on le epic controversial topics like systemd and rust (ideally never, at the very least until you know what you're talking about)

>>108981311
xfce is great, really solid DE, but I wondered about the mate project for a reason.

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>>108976743
Get to know Linux in a VM. It is much easier to try new and possibly destructive things in a VM. I still use VMs to test various setups before I do them on my main machines.

Make regular backups, even if they are manual. Make sure the backups are part of a different system than the machine you're working on. For example, put them on an external drive or in the cloud.

Double check all shell commands before putting them into your terminal. Sometimes benign looking commands may change or delete things that you don't want. Sometimes commands are malicious. LLMs are useful for this but sometimes it's just better to look up your distro's manpages.

Know how your distro updates its software. Some distros intentionally stay on old software (Ubuntu, Debian), and so having old software is normal.

Understand that Linux (and MacOS) are not immune to malware and viruses. Use the same caution you'd have on Windows (ie, don't execute random stuff).

Learning Linux takes some time. You can use GUIs for most things, but sometimes you can't, and sometimes you don't want to. To really understand how Linux systems work, you'll need to just kind of dive in. However, you can get away with knowing only the basics on a distro like Mint or Fedora.

>>108976743
I've always said that Linux is meant for programmers, not anyone else. I'd say most of the problems introduced into Linux over the past 20 or so years were caused by trying to distort and contort the OS to be usable by non-programmers.
So to any new Linux users, I say, "Do you write programs? No? go back to Windows or get a Mac."

>>108976761
I automatically assume anyone who actually types out “prolly” is an absolute mouth breathing smooth brain downy

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>>108976743
Keep notes of anything you learn but don't use all the time, for example how to set up your hardware or how to install a certain program.

At the very least, keep notes on how you troubleshoot a problem, including whatever random terminal commands you've copied from a google search. That way if you swap distros, swap hardware, or something breaks, you don't have to spend another couple of hours trying to retrace your steps from months or even years ago.