>>108979674
I wonder if they increase the price for it. Or if they make an intentionally bad device with a bad battery so they can make more money actually just selling the battery. I'd be more optimistic if Iwata was still around...

nope, trust me i live there. they've all monkey pawed because the corporations will always find a loophole to get back at you. either it will be more expensive when like 5% of consumers care about replacing the battery, or the base version will come without a battery or some shit and you have to buy one separately (with a massively inflated price)
like all apple products now come without a charger because EU said they have to provide a version without one
they will fuck you every time, just leave it alone

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>>108979674
>/v/ hates it
>/pol/ hates it
>/g/ hates it
>MAGA hates it
>piratesoftware hates it
>it succeeds nonetheless, overwhelmingly so
GAAS defenders on suicide watch

>>108979674
shift clicked

buy an ad, cuckold, or die for Ukraine or whatever else EU cucks do nowadays

>>108980879
i'm glad you're upset

Americans that support EU are so fucking dumb.

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We'll see what @FBI has to say about this

>>108980827
>they will fuck you every time
Because the EU is corrupt as fuck with a new corruption scandal every other day.
Whatever they do, always benefits the corpos with their lobbyists.
>you all need to have the same connector
>but its the Apple+Intel designed one and you can run incompatible proprietary protocols over it, so a Samsung cable doesn't fully support the iPhone
>every company or person, no matter how small, needs to warn before using cookies on their website, even if they are mundane session cookies, but there is a minimum fine, so the smaller people get raped much more by possible fines than big corpos, turning the internet into corpo-only and pushing out the small guys

>>108979674

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>>108980879
>>108980898
>this triggers the MAGA

>>108980867
And then you woke up.

>>108979674
tbf Nintendo might be the only company that can be trusted to not need this. their stuff is designed to last.

EU is based
makes mutts and their billionaire overlords cry all day long

>>108980917
I am sure people are very angry at the American Apple Thunderbolt connector that every non-American company got forced to adopt, which breaks every month and has a hundred different versions that are incompatible to each other while having the same plug.
You really showed the corpo.

>>108979674
>EU is the best thing to ever happen to tech consumer rights
Notice they didn't stop israel from killing kids. They're in on it.

>>108980910
This, there are slight problems with the usb-c mandate so it should be done away with forever. Apple should be allowed to make a new proprietary connector with every new iPhone™ release if they so choose. And no your phone will NOT come with it. You will buy it separately and it will cost $39.99

>>108980936
>>108980946

>>108980948
I don't have an iPhone. I don't care what the American corpo with their NSA spyware does.
I only buy Chinese products and i would prefer it if they came with an actual good connector rather than the USB-C garbage that breaks every other day.
It's incredible just how many dead USB-C cables i have lying around here.

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>>108980946
>they didn't stop israel from killing kids
lmao like you give a single fuck

>dude losing all privacy is so hecking based because we got da usb-c now!*
>*on phones we said we'd never buy anyways

>>108980967
i literally never had one break. you might just be retarded. you're not supposed to stick them up your ass.

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>>108980967
>complains about garbage that breaks every other day
>"i only buy chinese products"

americans will be abused by corporations during their whole lives, it's the only world they know
it starts when they are young and get their dick mutilated so that some company can make better beauty products
one might even ask "does the company pay americans for their foreskin mutilation?", it's much worse than that, americans pay to have their dicks mutilated

>>108980967
I've had my iPhone and usb cable for 3 years now and nothing broke
maybe you are just a primate that abuses all his stuff

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>>108980998
>i literally never had one break
Then you don't use them. In which case i don't understand why you care.

At some point in the future i will have to illegaly import a Chinese phone with a GPMI connector to get something that isn't American garbage.
Congrats on making laws that make your market American-only.

>>108980992
>losing all privacy
? Literally the opposite of what the EU does. It might be difficult for you for grasp but if you were employed you might have a grasp of what hoops companies have to jump through in order to make sure they handle private data correctly.

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>>108981008
It's our right to be abused by corporations if that's what we choose. You will NEVER take that away from us, tranny.

>>108981018
How can I not use them if they're used for virtually every small device now, retard?
Have an adult teach you how to properly connect and disconnect cables.

why did replaceable batteries go away in the first place

>>108981015
You either buy Chinese, or you buy Chinese, but with a mulatto putting a sticker on it and demanding 200% more.
I prefer to cut the useless incompetent mulatto middleman out.

>>108981050
Because companies don't want to deal with the hassle of offering replacement parts, especially when they could be selling you an entirely new devices instead.

>>108981018
>>108981049
Isn't it funny how nobody considers the possibility that maybe a company from the EU wants to develop their own connector?
Like we only see the American USB-C / Apple Thunderbolt one, and the Chinese one. But nobody on the world world seriously believes that someone inside the EU would ever develop something.

>>108981050
Because they popped out and made phones chunky.
And barely anyone ever replaced them.
And you can still replace batteries in modern smartphones anyway, any random turk can do it for five bucks.

People had the choice and bought the phones where you couldn't replace batteries anymore, but which instead were more durable. The market decided.

>>108981024
>muh GDPLARP
Yeah sure act like a retarded nigger that will magically make chat control, planned VPN bans, etc not an authoritarian measure of a failed state. Totally bro cookie banners solved privacy.

>>108981043
You're an urban bumpkin.

>>108980936
The EU is controlled by Americans you fucking retard

They now control all of Europe's energy imports

They've now made the EU finance the war against Russia

The EU could've paid much less for energy and decreased unemployment rate but that'd be bad for Jews

>make battery replaceable
>make the battery cost as much as a new console/phone/whatever
>or just straight up don't manufacture any new batteries
What stops them from doing this?

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>>108981167
EU legislation, what else?
>EU’s directive requires manufacturers to “provide access to spare parts, repair and maintenance information or any repair related software tools, firmware or similar auxiliary means”
>The directive asks for reasonable prices for parts and tools.
https://www.ifixit.com/News/94705/the-eus-right-to-repair-has-finally-been-approved

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>>108981160
Have you looked into a mirror lately?
I made this pic quick for you
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>108979674
oh fuck, I didnt realize that law applied to all portables, thought just phones which were exempt anyway as theyre all waterproof

>>108979674
for every good thing the EU does they do 10 bad things
but they can be unexpectedly based when it comes to tech, for some bizarre fucking reason

>>108981188
How is "reasonable price" defined?

>>108981167
we had this already before touchscreen era
batteries were on every corner, sold as cheap as jar of peas
Its will be the same, you forget the fact everything is manufactured in china and there will be abundance of them everywhere
>What stops them from doing this?
free market

>>108981197
you are a schizo

>>108979674
>$200 more expensive
>500 grams heavier
>buying a new battery will cost 5x as much as having it replaced like usual

>>108980929
yeah, the joycons especially!

>>108981167
>implying it's impossible for a third party to manufacture a compatible battery
...are you seriously this retarded?

>>108980929
>tbf Nintendo might be the only company that can be trusted to not need this. their stuff is designed to last.
fucking KEKKK

>>108979674
based another "that'll be 400€ for a battery assembly" replacement that involves replacing 10 parts not just swapping the battery letsgoooooo

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>>108980992
says the fucking goycattle ruled by palantir and a bunch of fucking 20 year olds from DOGE copyping all your health data

and the same goycattle whose goverment will implement AI detection in cars before they start next year

>>108980967
I am absolutely certain that every time someone complains about the fragility of USB c, they actually mean USB micro b

>>108979674
EU only litigates, never innovates. They're basically a parasite acting on both China and the US, tolerated only because it makes more financial sense to not kick them to the curb. If the situation doesn't course correct over the next couple of decades, I predict a complete fall into irrelevancy for most EU member states as their populations are steadily replaced by foreigners who have no concept of what made the constituent countries great in the first place.

>>108982122
>you can just make compatible hardware for anything without having any of its specs
Don't talk about things you have 0 understanding of, you mental defective.

>>108979674
reminder that when android phones had replaceable batteries normgroids made fun of them for falling out of the phone when dropped and calling them legos.

>>108982284
>Don't talk about things you have 0 understanding of, you mental defective.
So not a single device in the history of the world has ever gotten a 3rd party battery?

>>108981018
>At some point in the future i will have to illegaly import a Chinese phone with a GPMI connector to get something that isn't American garbage.
Did you not know that the gpmi is the same connector as USB c?

>>108982294
Too bad this law doesn't affect phone.
Other than giga poorfag phone with bottom of the barrel battery, most phones are already complied by being waterproof.

>>108981050
shipping overseas has some battery transportation fire safety regulations that are easier to clear with non-removable batteries, aka its cheaper.

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>>108979674
OK but when are we getting a Switch 2 Lite with a replaceable battery, the Switch 2 is barely portable I feel like a retard pulling it out of my bag on the bus

>>108979674
Nothing new under the sun
IIRC some 3DS (or DS?) models were sold without a charger. I expect some similar buttfuckery from this because there's always some way to fuck with the customer while making these people look good.

>>108979674
i can hear people buying that special EU edition and driving the price up to infinite kek

>>108979674
It's because of the EU that we have stupid cookie popups on every site and the clusterfuck that is USB-C.

>>108980827
>like all apple products now come without a charger because EU said they have to provide a version without one
This is a terrible example. Is there anybody who still doesn’t have a usb-c power brick in current-year?

>usb-c
tranny connector lmao
kys euroniggers

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>>108979674
I kneel EVROPA

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xbox doesn't have this problem

It's insane such a large device doesn't have a replaceable battery to begin with.
It's like a laptop not having a replaceable battery.

With phones they can make some argument about thinness and water resistance, but in a handheld it's pure nonsense.

>>108981198
>phones which were exempt anyway as theyre all waterproof
how is that related? and wtf is up with this retarded waterproof talking point?
how many times does it actually happen some retard drops their phone in water?
also phones can have replaceable batteries and be waterproof.

>>108979674
Based, but seriously, why the fuck is this EU exclusive (I know local consumer laws) but this basically means, that Nintendo will maintain 2 versions, instead of making the replaceable battery the default. Huh?

Like nigga cmon, even Apple decided to make USB C the default, is keeping 2 models really that profitable for Nintendon't? I can't think of a reason other than money, do they really bet on faulty batteries and they get money through repair services? Please, explain this.

>>108979674
NOOO this is COMMUNISM!!!!
Someone, help the poor corpos! If people can just use their old devices...!

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>>108983769
>I feel like a retard pulling it out of my bag on the bus
Don't tell me.. ohnononono

>>108980827
>either it will be more expensive when like 5% of consumers care
In other words they did do it. Also, it doesn't inflate the price of the product, it inflates the price of all the company's products; the material cost isn't higher, the engineering time is.

>>108980910
>every company or person, no matter how small, needs to warn before using cookies on their website,
That's actually a violation of the GDPR and when you use cookies properly (how hackernews does for example) you don't need any of that at all.

>>108979674
Europe needs to be blockaded until they stop their nonsense
Or give russia weapons so they kill em all

>>108982284
this is probably bait but i'll bite...
there are TONS of third party nintendo gbasp/ds/3ds and switch batteries (including those sold by iFixit), plus there are chinkshit batteries for every phone/laptop ever, i'm pretty sure the BMS in most of these devices isn't even part of the battery itself and all lithium batteries are the same voltage range already so all you have to do is literally manufacture a lithium ion battery of the same physical dimensions and that's it...
you're beyond retardation

>>108984084
everyone shits on xbox controllers for this but it's by far the most sensible option.
a pair of good quality rechargeable nimh AA batteries costs pennies (ikea ladda), has a service life of 10+ years, and those last 20-30 hours on a single charge on this controller (which is roughly the time it takes to play through the entirety of two or three different games), when the batteries are depleted it takes seconds to swap them out for a pair of charged ones, plus nimh will never catch fire, explode, swell or any of that bullshit, it's the most reliable battery chemistry which just werks, you can also leave your unused/spare nimh batteries sitting in a charger 24/7 until you need them and they won't give a shit while doing the same with a lithium ion battery is guaranteed to end up in severe degradation at best and a spicy pillow at worst.
I just fucking love nimh batteries and there's no reason to choose lithium slop over it for devices which don't require tiny/energy dense batteries.

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>>108979674
Wait wait wait...
It wasn't?

>>108985768
The og Switch didn't have one either

>>108985768
yeah and the gameboy advance SP and ds and ds lite and the dsi and the 3ds and the 3ds XL

>>108987397
...what?
all of the consoles you listed had an easily removable battery

>>108979674
Double edged sword. EU mandates good stuff like this but also mandates a lot of really evil shit like backdoors and automatic file scanning and ID verification.

>>108979674
>in the EU
I don't see the point in devices like Switch having a replaceable battery. Once nintendung closes the online shop it's basically e-waste. It'll probably happen before the battery dies anyways so why bother with changing it?

>>108987527
physical game carts will still work after the online shop closes down, plus games already downloaded on the console will also still work
retard

>>108987597
>physical game carts will still work
Games that need a day one patch to barely function

are eurofags incapable of using a screwdriver and spudger? you can already swap out the battery in a switch. it's kinda annoying and you have to partially disassemble it, but it's possible do with basic tools in an afternoon. it's not hard-wired in or worse tied by serial number to the hardware like apple does with their shit.
I think the main thing about right to repair should be the ability to open up your hardware without voiding the warranty.

>>108979674
>EU is the best thing to ever happen to tech consumer rights
yes and it sure is nice everyone using the same phone charger cable now

thanks europe you make things better for all of us

>>108987672
you forgot the part where the battery is held in with extremely strong glue and to get it out the only way is to either severely bend it or to heat up the glue, both of which are quite risky options, especially if your battery is swollen.
plus no genuine first party replacement batteries are available, the ifixit ones are probably good enough quality but still, there's no way to get an identical replacement.
sure if you ignore these two massive problems, it's very quick and easy!
keep licking that boot, one day all of that money will trickle down to you, i'm sure of it.

>>108984129
the product is exempt from the easy battery replacement law if the battery can do 1000 charge cycles and has a waterproof rating

>>108979733
>make more money actually just selling the battery
as long as the plug thing isnt proprietary I am willing to buy third party batteries. actually fuck that I don't need tendie station

>>108980946
Europeans will always deflect, this factor alone shows how corrupt the EU is as an organization.
>>108980969
>>108981043
>>108981188

>>108987728
>where the battery is held in with extremely strong glue
regulate the strength of the glue then? no matter how stupid it may sound

>>108989765
...what?

>>108987728
the real problem is the repair parts sourcing indeed
and modern day tech regulations are broken

>>108984218
>why the fuck is this EU exclusive
nothing says it will be, but they'll probably prioritize cycling already produced stock originally intended for EU back to other regions, so getting the updated model might be a while for others

>>108984124
>It's like a laptop not having a replaceable battery.
A modern laptop's battery is just as replaceable as the Switch's.

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>>108979674
Do any of these companies know they can just, like, ignore that and do business as usual? Maybe they just have to close their european branches and let retail be handled by an another company, but that's it. I live in the EU and I own a chinese ebike that blatantly breaks all the EU regulation on ebikes. The shop I bought it from operates legally and normally as a legitimate business and keeps importing these without any issue. Eurocrats forget about the legislation they wrote 2 years ago when they get distracted by something else.

>>108990551
>a company as big as nintendo can get away with blatantly breaking the law just like a small chinkshit ebike manufacturer can
is this satire

>>108992352
What you expect some philosophical consistency from some pseud who forgot that his stance on "small businesess" from two years ago is now law? pffft

Will companies go back to non replaceable batteries after russia conquers everything east of france?

>>108982200
The flavor palette of your entire food industry is administrated top down by three companies one of which is in switzerland and another one in sweden

>>108981050
Because customers didn't want them, but customer choice is apparently deeply offensive to EU cucks

>>108981203
Depends on if your company pushes the right social politics

>>108989765
Yeah that seems a much better solution, but of course the EU needs big flashy stuff everybody can see to keep the anti corporate obsessives worshiping them, so it has to be the most extreme bullshit instead

>>108992352
Is there a single precedent where a company refused to comply and their products really got wiped off the market? My bet would be that nothing ever happens.

People would be forced to order switches from China directly or some proxy countries elsewhere, do you think that customs everywhere in the EU would blank reject all packages with a nintendo switch logo or something?

There was a lot of fuss a few years ago about a new legislature in the EU that would prevent manufacturers selling different quality tier products under the same branding in the EU and it passed with great fanfare, but it affected nothing. There are still multiple-tier products being solved. Who knows how many restrictions and regulations were passed in the same way without really affecting anything.

>>108992919
...have you ever heard of a fine?
there's also a thing called a "recurring fine", guess between getting constantly fined for selling non-compliant products and selling compliant products what costs less money...
but sure, Apple decided to comply with the usb-c law just for the lols apparently.

>>108980827
>either it will be more expensive
people are already not buying with the current price and while its nice you can replace batteries if the first break down its not a feature thatll magically make them sell more.
By the time the new Zelda mainline is out at this rate it can be emulated on day one so there goes a chunk of those sales too

>>108992970
>Apple decided to comply with the usb-c law just for the lols apparently.
The EU mandate might have just been the straw that broke the camels back rather than the prime motivation.
Lightning really had zero merit compared to USB-C, to continue to use it was sheer stubbornness.

>>108979674
God, so it's gonna be locked to the EU stores, which have fewer games and are more expensive, right?

>>108993130
except that the same applies to non-removable batteries, especially on a console like the switch where 95+% of the profit comes from software sales rather than hardware.
It's probably more profitable for nintendo to make the console easily repairable, as that means you are less likely to quit the ecosystem entirely and stop buying their very expensive games, plus the original switch already had excellent quality batteries with a very conservative BMS system, I'm one of the many many people with a day one switch (was retarded at the time okay) in frequent use and the original 8/9 years old battery still works perfectly at 80+% health (I periodically check through hekate), so them missing out on doing it through their official repair portal for 30€ once every 10 years per switch isn't really that much of a loss.
the switch not having a removable battery is already a rather dumb decision that probably causes way less increase in profits than what it would cost to make it removable, several millions of fines per year would also break the camels back.

>>108992919
>mom I want a switch!
>retarded femoid goes online
>only option is to buy from xingping.cn, waiting period 14-21 days
>sorry tyrone pick something else

>>108993130
USB-C is not even a single standard and it's very much possible to buy a USB-C charger that does not work with your USB-C phone in the EU. I never had a device with a lightning connector or know anything about it, but if it's a single fucking standard, then it's already better than USB-C.

>>108993699
>USB-C is not even a single standard and it's very much possible to buy a USB-C charger that does not work with your USB-C phone in the EU
citation required
no but seriously what the fuck are you talking about
you might be one of those retards complaining about the fact that different usb-c cables have different data transfer or higher power delivery capabilities (which isn't even an actual problem but ok), but there's absolutely 0 reason basic 5v power delivery would work differently on different devices, it's pinout is of course standardized.
not to mention, lighting would have those same exact ""problems"" if it wasn't for the fact that it is only used on iphones... of course it works consistently across all devices when they're all the same thing made by the same manufacturer, what the fuck is your point?
I'm very confused as to why nobody in this thread has a functioning brain

>>108993699
>USB-C is not even a single standard and it's very much possible to buy a USB-C charger that does not work with your USB-C phone in the EU
Horseshit.
Every device can charge from any complaint port, just slowly as the bare minimum is limited to 5V/3A but is still faster than lightning.

If you can't be bothered to look up what specs your phone/device wants for fast charging then stick to your slow chargers.

>>108993746
>what the fuck is your point?
NTA but the biggest complaints about USB-C stem from the fact you just can't buy dogshit cables and chargers.
A $5 charger can't do 240w charging so everyone just better stick to ~10w microUSB/lightning charging forever

>>108993746
>>108993758
I already had a case like that in the family where an aftermarket USB-C did not want to charge one samsung phone, but did want to charge another. Since the phone didn't come with a charger, we had to buy an aftermarket one. I didn't check the specs on the phone or the charger, so that's on me, but it appears that these things do some kind of a handshake to agree on a set of parameters that both sides support and in this case there were none in common.
My fault for buying the wrong one, but it was a USB-C store bought in the EU which means that this standard isn't really a standard. If it was standard, I could pick any fucking USB-C without using any braincells and it would have worked on every phone sold in the EU.

>>108993791
there's literally nothing microUSB/lighting can do that usb-c can't
I have 0 idea why you're implying USB-C is unable to do slow low wattage charging, it absolutely can, I've been routinely charging my phone at 5v500mA trhough my mainboards shittiest usb port for a decade at this point without issues, regular decades old 5v1a usb-a chargers also work both with usb-a to usb-c cables and with adapters, once again, very confused as to why you'd even attempt to spread such nonsense, everybody knows you can do 5w charging on usb-c without problems already.

>>108993844
>but it appears that these things do some kind of a handshake to agree on a set of parameters that both sides support and in this case there were none in common.
again, that is just for high power power delivery stuff
regular 5v charging is always supported by any device, no handshake required, literally solder any 5v electronic device to a usb-c cable directly and it will work, what you're saying is just not possible and usb-c definitely wasn't the cause of this mysterious issue.
>If it was standard, I could pick any fucking USB-C without using any braincells and it would have worked on every phone sold in the EU.
...which is once again, exactly how it works already
the usb-c standard is literally just a layout that specifies the shape/dimension/pinout of a regular usb connection, completely backwards compatible to all older usb standards (including regular 5v power which has always worked since the ninties), no difference in functionality, you bought a defective charging and are assuming some absolute nonsense was the cause of it not working for some reason.

>>108993899
>no difference in functionality
and before some retards chimes in and says BUT ARKUTCHALLY, yes, of course there are additional features such as displayport video, usb 4, and other stuff which is only supported by usb-c but what i'm saying is that usb 2.0 data transfer, usb 3.0 data transfer, basic power delivery, and everything else that was available on a usb-a or micro usb connection also works the exact same and is implemented exactly the same way on usb-c.
as long as you ignore those modern additional features which aren't mandatory for charging a phone or transfering data at 2.0/3.0 speeds, usb-c is literally a differently shaped micro-usb or usb-a connector.

>>108993844
>these things do some kind of a handshake to agree on a set of parameters that both sides support
that is just to upgrade the voltage, the default is 5V and active by default which any device should support, if they follow spec