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Why do all programmer spaces turn into this?
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>9 months later he is still upset that some dead forum banned someone who made a queermisic insinuation of pedophilia
shit thread
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>>108985527
this isn't exclusive to programming spaces.
it happens everywhere over time if you let these tards get their way.

in general, people fall under a few buckets in life, with the majority conformist
for these people, underlying reasons why something is good or bad aren't really important; it only matters to them that "it's what most people think, so it's righteous" (here "most people" is more or less whoever they consider "their tribe")
what this means is that only a small minority of people actually want to make choices for themselves, find out why X or Y
and this makes sense socially; you can't have a working society if most of the population spends their life questioning every basic principle people have agreed upon

btw this isn't a lefty exclusive (but they are the mangey ones about it in this day and age), and being proud of your anti-confirmism is very conformist if you only do it to "own the libs" rather than because you're actually interested in new ideas that might displease people you generally like
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>>108985527
Wtf is sealioning?
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>>108985678
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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>>108985749
I thought this was just being a lefty lol
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>>108985527
It turns into this because the classic liberal politics of a debate club has no response to the endless pursuit of power of progressive politics.
It cannot even filter the very obvious and cynical distortion of the word "kindness" (that which gives me power = kind, what doesn't give me power = unkind). And if it cannot do that, you have already lost.
It also turns into this because people who oppose progressive politics very often have the insane belief that there can be a community with no filters, "as open as possible" being the goal. You cannot have a community with no rules, only a community with bad rules. And communities with bad rules are a power vacuum, an open invitation for those who want more power than you do.
A great example of this is what happened with NixOS.
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>>108985749
The sea lion did nothing wrong
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I read one paragraph then decided it didn't seem worth continuing
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>>108985527
I think autists just get one-shotted by emotional dysregulation and victim complexes rooted in their childhood
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>>108985527
This is a screenshot from Reddit. This is not a "programmer space"
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>>108985749
the problem with this cope is that usually, and by usually its 100% of the time, the person asked to back up what he said is saying this publicly already, and not "in his house".

the problem leftnigs really have is they know they cant back up anything they are saying
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>>108985931
>leftnigs
nigger, "leftnigs" created the sealioning meme.
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>>108985527
>lobsters screencap thread
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>>108985650
>what this means is that only a small minority of people actually want to make choices for themselves, find out why X or Y
>and this makes sense socially; you can't have a working society if most of the population spends their life questioning every basic principle people have agreed upon
You sure can, if it's mostly 110iq+ with no people that are not capable of rationality (women). Basic principles like "murder is bad" are soon arrived upon. This is the kind of stuff education was supposed to be about.
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>>108985749
>>108985840
What a retarded meme. Using it unironically is literally revealing yourself as being wrong, while also conceding that your "opponents" are both polite and factual (Forfeiting the usual false claims of harassment and threats)

Even more incredible they start with a very racist argument, expressing disdain for a species simply based on the color of their skin.
>>108985931
Yep, "in my house" is the falsehood, no one is in their house, they are in public on the internet.
>>108985944
He and I think all of us, know.
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>>108985527
There are state level actors atacking public open programmer communities with infiltration attacks by trannies to destabilize uncontrolled competiton and corral every compentent programmer into their defense MIC.
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>>108985749
I mean, the woman makes a speciesist remark and gets called out on it, and acts like she's the victim? And the wikipedia page paints the sea lion as a "troll"?
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He's right though. It's a news aggregator site. Comments should be asking questions or suggesting fixes about the content. Not 10 indented levels of seethe.
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>>108985769
Exactly. Classic liberal debate club also cannot bring itself to diagnose what to me is obvious: that "people" like these are really closer to biblical demons than anything else.
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>>108985527
It's always either trannies, cargo cults or tranny cargo cults.
It didn't used to be like this.
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>>108985769
The root of the issue is almost all of these political systems still at their very core pretend that everything is a debate to be had.
I urge people to walk off a roof and argue with gravity until it concedes weirdly enough these faggots never take me up on that offer. The abuse of kindness and language itself is downstream of that original sin.
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>>108986201
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It happens because bullying awkward people was discouraged for listening to everyone's feelings and accepting them as they are. The internet aside from few sites like 4chen is an over-feminized echo chamber.
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>>108986131
spoken like a true-blue leftard
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>>108986390
Someone has never read the bible. Biblical demons are nothing like trannies
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>>108986111
>You sure can, if it's mostly 110iq+
very wrong; take the japan example if you like (guessing that's what you aim for)
they are smarter on average, sure, but *also* excdeedingly conformist
I'm not saying you can build a functional society with retarded subsaharan niggers, cause you're right, that is not possible.
But at the end of the day you need people to agree on things.
And for people to agree when the world is full of things that aren't perfectly clear-cut between right and wrong, you need a lot of those people to passively agree to $whatever is the current zeitgeist

>with no people that are not capable of rationality (women)
women aren't really dumber
IQ differences between sexes do exist, but not at the mean.
it's more that males have a more spread-out curve; more outliers in both directionn and women are more "average"

the reason women are particularly conformist is that at the end of the day they are very physically weak
and even more during pregnancy where they entirely rely on others
and disagreeing with random people when this is you is a pretty dangerous game to play.
it just makes sense that they evolved to parse and adopt the most mainstream point of view, so that they are less likely to be beaten up by some random retard
it's sad and all, but it's got fairly little to do with iq
oh and also a lot of it messaging; plenty of women disagree with the widespread opinions, but just would never ever say it
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>>108985527
Imagine unironically taking time off your day to write all that.
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>>108985678
It's when a hereronormative white man asserts a sound rebuttal of a minority representative's bigotry, which is considered harassment.
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>Sealions could be here
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>>108987516
>he invaded their home sealionly
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>>108985527
>all that text just to say that some retard is upset.
jesus christ.
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You can tell this person thinks reddit is too right-wing.
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>>108985527
>I am hereby calling for a suspension of all accounts who engage in Islamophobia
Based. Inshallah
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>>108986201
This. Every project that could somehow challenge big tech you'd find some tranny or jew as its head, every god damn time.

>>108986838
>And for people to agree when the world is full of things that aren't perfectly clear-cut between right and wrong, you need a lot of those people to passively agree to $whatever is the current zeitgeist
Because naturally the strongest is the most capable, so naturally the weaker, being in the human society mostly the less intelligent, would just conform to the strongest's way to survive.
>women aren't really dumber
Women generally are less wiser than men, they more akin to children than to men. And they should be to take care of them. And they are irrational in most of the time, and only follow their fluid feelings. To put them as equal as men, or in leadership is retarded. With it you get all bs of modern society, such a circus. Femininity is meant to be dominated by masculinity, to put it the other way is the way of satan. But what's funnier is the men who gradually allowed this to happen, those are the real retards.
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>>108985527
> troons act out, get pushback on their attitude, cry bigot and leave to find a new community
> new community suddenly turns hateful, unbearable and bigoted

these are supposedly intelligent people, I wonder how long will it take them to connect the dots.

Also I wonder of when these oversocialized leftists will understand that a community of your peers is supposed to be people who like to hang out with each other, and not a podium, where you can scream about your perceived injustices and a diligent army will then immediately understand your concerns and move to fight whatever great evil you happen to point out

>>108986838
I have a pet theory that people of above average iq are more trainable, since they see themselves as rational, and can be subjected to 'X is bad because Y therefore you must do Z'.

They are also self conscious, and understand the consequences of their actions and how it will affect their long term goals.

Retards have none of that, and they do what they want, and get away with it often enough to make the midwits seethe,
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>>108985769
I would add that since progressives supposedly hate violence and only feel its justified for protecting the weak, people go through insane mental gymnastics to present themselves as the most oppressed and trodded-upon people of all time to seek moral justification to go to town on people they happen to have beef with at the moment.
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>>108986838
>it's more that males have a more spread-out curve; more outliers in both directionn and women are more "average"
This is a bullshit internet legend repeated into "truth"
Do you really it just so happen the two sexes have the exact same average IQ?
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>>108988513
Disprove it then, if it's only a myth.
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>>108988529
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886911001048

An issue with this whole discussion is that modern IQ tests are specifically made to try flattening any IQ differences between the sexes for ideological reasons.
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>>108988647
>it is not my ideology that it is wrong, it is the IQ tests!
kek
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>>108985929
no, the screenshot is from the rust cultist version of hackernews

>>108985527
thank you OP, this gave me several good chuckles
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THIS IS THE RESULT OF OUTLAW BULLYING
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what I like about lobsters is that they try to stick to technical topics. california news is just 2588 comments about a JYT article about trump. Or at least they tried sticking to to technical topics. Now it is 1000 lamentation-about-ai essays. if only the users of the site had the balls to admit that they're biologically male, it would be a cozy spot
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>>108988647
>can't read
lol
we know where you fall on the IQ curve.
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>>108987946
>To put them as equal as men, or in leadership is retarded
not sure I agree on the wiser-or-not part, but I agree on the outcome
leaders need to be free from peer pressure, and women are on average too susceptible to it

>>108988369
>since they see themselves as rational, and can be subjected to 'X is bad because Y therefore you must do Z'.
I think you'd be disappointed with reality
a lot of people, of otherwise above-average intelligence, only agree to "because Y" based on whether or not they think it's acceptable, and won't actually, truly, think about whether it's true

>>108988513
>Do you really it just so happen the two sexes have the exact same average IQ?
exact same? no. close enough at the median that the difference is entirely irrelevant? yeah.
>This is a bullshit internet legend repeated into "truth"
im not going to spoonfeed you links you will disagree with anyways, but if you think about it it should make sense to you eventually
you think "men are obviously better" because you focus on the fact that a larger portion of smart people are men.
this is true. but the larger part of the retards in the population is also men. and however much they suck, barely qualify as humans, etc., you still have to account for them.
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>>108985749
>"I should have zero accountability for my words and actions, but I should be protected from harassment"
>Jewish
What a surprise. The sealion was right.
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>>108985769
Bunch of pseud shit and platitudes lol, but what made me laugh the most was this
>endless pursuit of power of progressive politics.
Not Zionism, Neoliberalism and Neoconservatism? You know, the three ideologies that actually rule the west?

>A great example of this is what happened with NixOS.
Oh, it's a distro warring baby duck.
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>>108985527
>people who disagree with me and have different opinions than me should be banned!

Do these faggy fascists ever look in the mirror?
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schizophrenic ramblings beyond this point.
there is a group of people that think if they win arguments it somehow changes reality. i feel like its my generation (millennials) mostly. the ones that became conscious during the big youtube atheist thing. reality doesnt work like debates in a conceptual space.
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>>108990605
All bullshit. It's zoomers (your generation).
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i mean like that lol. like the reality is im 35 and nothing anybody says is going to change that. there is no argument to be had, no debate to be won. its simply unassailable fact.
the who is unimportant btw. thats just my feeling, as i made clear.
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>>108985527
what even is that lobsters website? is it some rust thing? i mean since they write all their stuff to end with "rs" i can only assume that lobste.rs is for rust writers, which would not surprise me that it devolved quickly into a hellhole of walking on eggshells and shit flinging for le "muh wrong politics"
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>>108990659
Take your meds, schizo
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>>108985527
>implying i would bother to read any of that
lol. wheres the exe?
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>>108990786
>Lobsters has blocked the Brave browser since a scam in 2019 [no link to any description or explanation of what 'scam' means]. We still block it because they lie about following standards to scrape and sell copies of websites [ related to brave search, not brave browser, heavily debunked in the linked thread]. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but they have previously targeted Lobsters by name and have a years-long pattern of bad behavior [no evidence].
It's a tranny website at any rate
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>>108990790
No! I'm not falling for the cheese trick this time either!
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>>108990834
so it is ack-chully a rustroon website?
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>>108985527
what website is that?
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>>108990947
lemonparty.org
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>>108986111
>with no people that are not capable of rationality (women).
very ironic post
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>>108985749
I personally don't care for fags who go "source???" for everything you say, but I find it ironic that those people are mostly leftists, and that those same people are the only ones I ever see complain about sealioning.
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>>108991004
I don't see the irony. Can you help me out?
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>>108991290
t. sub 110 iq
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>>108991298
So you are unable to help me out and explain? I'm just here to learn :pray:
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>>108990786
It pre-dates Rust
It started out as a more focused and nerdy HN clone
Now it has people like OP who sneed about people who don’t celebrate pedophiles and mpox spreaders
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>>108985749
jewish guy comes up with the most mid comic ever, spends some money to try astroturfing it into a "meme"
even gets a wiki page for it
god damn that is gay as fuck

probably the singlular time in his comic's history that more than 100 people ever saw it
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>>108992691
Why does this comic make low IQ fags so mad?
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>>108992715
real reddit shit
my good gentlesir you are SEALIONING me right now xD
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>>108992715
what's wrong with a sea lion speaking up against some rich bitch who is plainly racist against sea lions?
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>>108992719
sealionmaxxing LMAO youve been pwnd sir
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>>108992749
This. I thought leftards were all about "punching down".
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>>108985527
https://lobste.rs/~xvello/threads
Appears like they are just a concern troll themselves who has contributed diddly squat to the website, yet somehow get 40-60 updoots on random comments.
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>>108992715
Because they see themselves in it and they can not come up with any refutation so they start seething incoherently.
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>>108993921
[citation needed]
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>>108993931
q.e.d.
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>>108994251
That was the joke anon. Your retarded post had heavily been addressed preemptively throughout the thread after all. No wonder this flew over your head, too.
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>>108994351
Is this some advanced form of merely pretending to be retarded or are you actually THIS fucking retarded?
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>>108985749
this is a very good comic, because its extremely revealing about the people who constantly use it.
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>>108994362
Thanks for proving you have an IQ under 0.
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qrd?
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>>108995133 (checked)
>ai bad
>61 upboats
It's that easy.
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>>108985749
>all the sea lion replies
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>>108985749
I can't believe there was never an edit that replaced the sea lion with a black guy



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