>spend maybe 7 years on vim/nvim>pretty decent configuration, as much as an unemployed guy could need>spend maybe last two years on Doom Emacs. Honestly feels much better EXCEPT it is slow as fuck on every single aspect>try Sublime Text, pretty good although feels somehow more outdated and abandoned than Emacs>Install vscode with vim motionsHonestly the only downside I see is electron and ram consumption. But to be honest, yesterday even Nvim was feeling sluggish on my T480. Maybe should stick to Sublime.Do you guys think this is the ultimate bluepill? Just use the <Microsoft Product> built on electron bullshit, but just focus on working? Has any of you done this? How does it feel?
Helix is the ultimate red pill.
It's shit compared to actual VS
>>108986349>Doom EmacsI see where you went wrong.
>>108986349How is it slow anon? Never had a single problem with it and I'm curious.
>>108986652LSP is very low, and glitchy, sometimes documentation rectangles/windows show up empty.Loading Org Agenda takes like a solid 3 or 4 seconds.I get slight input delay sometimes when just writing code.The other day I was writing some markdown alongside my program and at some point I started getting VERY VERY NOTICEABLE input delay.Granted, this could be my T480, but if I remember correctly, I also felt the latency/input delay on my desktop.
>>108986628come home, anon
>>108986587Yeah I kind of been thinking about just starting my own config but, I really am not sure I want to put that much effort in. Configuring Doom Emacs, despite being somewhat easy, was a lot of work by itself...
My webshit contract ends in 2 months I can't wait to take the C/C++ pill and learn vim and all this non bloated shit
>>108986670Wtf get a better computer dude. I'm on a 10 yo laptop and everything is snappy as fuck.
>>108986676What's this one? I've actually just been using nano ever since atom got discontinued. Can't be bothered to play with all these code editors when I could just... work using nano, the editor already on all of my machines.
I refuse to even try VSCode just because the majority of people use it. Apart from that it's a bloated electron bullshit and MS spyware.Honestly, I'm just following my mini dream of writing my own text editor now, but it's both encouraging and demoralizing to see how many people started writing their own editors all of a sudden. These are the ones are I can remember: helix, kakoune, focus (written in jai), zed, Kite, then I remember there was some nano replacement... Pretty cool.Honestly, it's a lot of fun, but when I look at my code I've been working on for a year, I feel like I'm going at snail speed. Although I do like the thought I put into everything.
>>108987087oh, I forgot, I also saw this Jewish text editor written in C (can't remember it's name, but it was jewey as fuck, with symbolism in ita logo even).
>>108986349Problem with these text editors is that vim makes you work 5 times harder and it's slow to use. It's not slow per se.Emacs is buggy and slow in literal fashion. Some syntax highighting features are broken and its clearly made by an autist who doesn't care about ergonomics or even usability logic.Biggest issue is that if you want some lightweight alternative you would need to use Micro text editor for example, which is fine, but it has its own set of issues too.It's incredibly fascinating how something like a text editor for programming is such a hard task to implement. Or are people just retards?
>>108987246Text editors aren't hard. They're harder than webshit, for sur, that's why a lot less people are attempting them. Then there's a problem of preferences - these days text editor is expected to please everyone or it's a no go. Gotta have vim mode, plugins, lsp, ai integration, embedded terminal, work on all operating systems... I can go on forever. As someone who is writing a text editor all by myself, I have to weigh in how to spread my effort. And also, most people are writing it for free, because unlike even 10 years ago no one's going to buy an editor and nobody has any spare money anymore for such luxuries.
>>108986680emacs will still be emacs, so slowt. 3k LoC elisp config>>108986887zed, not that you're actually interested because you say retarded shit like that
>>108986887>what's this onemac only rustshit that wastes your gpu on idle because the soiboy programmers are scared of native guis
>>108988368oh and it's AI shit as of recently, because hype comes first and actualy quality comes 50th if ever
>>108986349I sswitched to Zed almost 2 years ago and don't miss the vscode browser
>>108988382Bot post
>>108988389your mom is a bot
>>108986349isnt that just a shittier version of zed?personally i do a mix of zed and helix if its a quick config change or over ssh i use helix but if its anything more complicated / a git project i use zed.zed does have helix/vim binds i should check it out sometime
>>108988368>>108988377I use it on GNU/Linux and it has a simple "Disable AI" toggle. Stop lying.
>>108986349now go the extra step and use a proper IDE for your language of choice + a vim plugin, and you will truly have ascended beyond the unwashed, unemployed masses of tinker trannies.
>>108989409Honest question:How is vscode not enough? I mean, it already does most of what IDEs do. Intellisense, LSPs, debugger, git tooling, etc...
>>108989457A JetBrains IDE completely destroys the equivalent VSCode setup. First class debugging, completion, snippets, introspection, etc. The only thing I'd use VSCode for over JetBrains is JavaTypeScript, and only because that's what the frameworkfags actually use and make plugins for.
>>108989500Yeah you know everyone in this board is unemployed when jetbrains is first mentioned in the 27th fucking post.
>>108989500you didnt mention a single feature the anon you replied to didnt already, so what does jetbrains have?
>>108986349Did you try making your own emacs config with only what you need from doom and using emacs server and emacsclient? Might take care of the speed problems.
>>108986349I use Geany. I just like it. Lightweight and comfy.
>>108986349Use the one that allows you to edit text. Those are text editors, anon. Text editors. You use those to edit text.>>108986887Also a text editor. You can use it to edit some text.
>>108986887Zed.It is actually pretty decent and not mac exclusive. Native, not electron and has some optional AI integrations. Afaik it is some kind of spiritual sucessor to Atom.
>>108992030I do use emacs server and emacsclient, still, slow.I have not tried to set up my own configuration in vanilla Emacs, though. I'm not sure I want to jump into that rabbit hole...Also well, I guess, like some other people have said in this thread, maybe my T480 is getting a little slow....
>>108986484Actual VS doesn't run on Linux and doesn't have any of the good AI extensions. Microsoft basically soft-deprecated it in favor of VSCode anyway.
>>108993547>Actual VS doesn't run on Linux and doesn't have any of the good AI extensions.Troonix issue. AIjeet issue>Microsoft basically soft-deprecated it in favor of VSCode anywayLol
>>108986484not the same purposefor c++, vscode+clangd is almost as good as an editor, even though configuring vscode through json files sucksfor the debugger, yeah visual studio is king
>>108993315>rabbit holeIt's nowhere near as bad as you think it'll be
>>108995436What can Visual Studio's debugger do that vscode's can't?
>>108995436Exact same purpose the moment you install a copextension
