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>have gnome-keyring running>it picks up my ssh keys and gnupg keys>$ echo $SSH_AUTH_SOCK>>/run/user/1000/gcr/ssh>run `ssh-add -l` in terminal>>error fetching identities: communication with agent failedbesides using gnome, what am i doing wrong? there don't seem to be any settings in gnome-keyring itself to actually use it as the ssh-agent
>>108990442What distro? Your commands work for me out of the box under GNOME on Debian.
how do i get librewolf to play mp4s?
whats a good aggregator for GNU/Linux? I'm using Akregator on KDE Plasma since I thought that would have the most compatible but every time I boot up my PC, it tells me the client was not shut down properly. I don't care if I have to use a Flatpak.
>>108990628I ended up just using the web version of my feed reader (self-hosted freshrss), didn't like any of the offerings on flathub and don't want to go back to newsboat.
>>108990639when you say self hosted, do you use your own server? I had my own Debian SSH server but the PC running it just died. Do I strictly have to use a server or can I just use FreshRSS on Docker without one?
>>108990649yeah i am running a bunch of stuff on a pi 4 using docker (well podman but same thing)you can use freshrss on docker locally but I like to have it on my always on pi since it updates feeds on its own.
>>108990368>KDE 2Holy sovl
Why aren't you using Network Time Security (NTS) enabled time servers? You don't want your NTP MITM'd in these times.
cachy or nobara?>want a gaming focused distro >do a lot of dev stuff so don't want smth locked down like bazzitebeen using linux at work for years but not sure how the gaming situation looks like
>>108991020Any rolling distro can play games properly, Cachy (Arch-based) and Nobara (Fedora-based) would both be fine, same with any development environments as both have the packages to set up whatever code env you need.
>>108991020Out of thise two? CachyBut if you're a dev frankly you should have no problems just running straight archImmutable distros aren't really a problem for dev work when you can just setup your development environments with mise, nix, or worst case distrobox.
>>108991020i game just fine in devuan stable, then again most of what i play are either old games through emulation in retroarch (i'm lazy to configure multiple emulators) OR games in steam, most of which run through proton for reasons, i'm not much a huge fan of modern FPS so on that front what i've been playing recently is Insurgency: Sandstorm and DOOM (2016), insurgency not as much as i'd like since i'm too autist and forget to talk on the mic for comms, DOOM cuz i want to complete all achievements not related to multiplayer nor snap map before i start DOOM Eternal.as for development i simply use neovim as my IDE, i code in bash, lua, python, some java, touched some C and vala but currently i'm trying to get into ada to do "real software" development, ya know like daemons, good TUI and GUI programs.
>>108991020What does your workplace run? I work at a bank that runs a RHEL core so I went with Nobara as my daily driver as it's Fedora based, out of familiarity. Haven't really had any issues gaming apart from friends who insist on wanting to play either battlefield or fortnite, just about every other game I've been able to play out of the box maybe with some minor tweaks here and there.
>>108991201debian/ubuntubeen leaning towards nobara/fedora because of all the arch memes about it ruining your system
>>108991258The Arch memes are just that, memes. Arch is the most popular distro these days overall behind Ubuntu based stuff.
$ lsof +c 15 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -11 62098 firefox-bin 56462 firefox.real 36736 Isolated\x20Web 27035 Web\x20Content 12382 gnome-clocks 10100 Privileged\x20C 10033 WebExtensionswhat the fuck
$ lsof +c 15 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -11 62098 firefox-bin 56462 firefox.real 36736 Isolated\x20Web 27035 Web\x20Content 12382 gnome-clocks 10100 Privileged\x20C 10033 WebExtensions
>>108990624Use the Flatpak version.>>108991020Bazzite isn't locked down, you're thinking of SteamOS. Bazzite is the better Nobara. CachyOS is for advanced users.Bazzite > Cachy > Nobara
>>108991610How do you install non-snap stuff on Bazzed?
>>108991629>download a flatpak>download an appimage>install a package from Fedora's repository with rpm-ostree>install a Fedora .rpm package with rpm-ostree>install Distrobox and install a package there>use homebrew>run a universal .sh installer>etc.There's literally over half a dozen ways to install stuff on Bazzite just like there is on any other distro.
>>108991653you forgot to mention that brazzers is bloated af
>>108991783"Bloat" would imply there are duplicate applications serving the same purpose, which isn't really an occurrence on almost any Linux distro. "Bloat" doesn't mean "software I don't want".
Is there a tool that lets me see all disk I/O operations? something that preferably shows me where and when a disk write or disk read operation is happening, also would be nice if it also works with ZFS datasets
Is there a way to hide or remove speakers that I don't want to use at all? Or create a favorite or preferred speaker list? Or even a way to rename the individual speakers cause this is a fucking mess.
I'm sure there are other gamers here who enjoy some online play that happens to require Windows. I'm wondering what the ideal setup is, maybe have separate box and use a direct network connection with moonshine? Or an extra graphics card and virtualize windows? Thoughts?
>>108992025most people who need windows just dual boot, you could set up a VM with GPU passthrough but that is a hassle and requires you to have 2 GPUs to begin with.
>>108991020Just use Fedora. Standard Fedora Workstation with a Wayland DE for your gayming monitor. Gaming distros are a meme.
>>108992035>just dual bootYeah but I don't really like that option as I tend to have stuff open on my 2nd and 3rd screen. Of course I could reopen all those things on Windows, but that's just not comfy, especially because I often game for short periods.
>>108992025I generally just find ways to get around it, or play games that support linux for multiplayer.
>>108992025I used geforce now for league of legends, but I stopped playing it anyway. It was playable, only added a 15-20ms delay.
>>108992051if you have a second machine with windows then maybe try VNC
>>108992025Do those games you play require kernel-level anti-cheat?
>>108992121I imagine so but don't know for sure. Currently it's mostly GTA5 Enhanced.
>>108990624Distro? Some distros don't ship patented codecs OOTB.
>>108991811iotop
There is no need for any other distro. It just works.
>>108992025You could always just install IoT LTSC 2024 on another partition/disk and dual boot between that and your Linux. It's the cleanest way to use 11.
>>108992025>maybe have separate boxYes>and use a direct network connection with moonshine?No, instead of moonshing you get an HDMI switch and 2 monitors, the switch will input from the linux box and the windows box and output to the primary screen, then you setup a software KVM solution like input-leap so when you want to game just turn on the windows box and drag your mouse to it.>Or an extra graphics card and virtualize windows?Works but it's too unstable / unpredictable, you never know when it will break
>>108992479I tried working with a KVM before and the OS's start flipping out when you flip the switch because they're suddenly losing or gaining a display, very annoying desu.
>>108992487I said software KVM, not hardware KVMalthough the HDMI switch works in a similar way but it's mostly a seamless transition
>>108992498>I said software KVMUhm looks to me like the display switch in your solution is hardware. If not please clarify.
>>108992231Obviously.By the way, do you know why Arch exists?RedHat/Fedora/Centos are corpo distros, so is Ubuntu.Debian just works and prefers free software and firmware over corpo blobs.There's also Gentoo for people fanatical about doing everything from source.What is the purpose of Arch then? Who asked for it? Why it exists? Maybe it should rmrf itself?
>>108992518it is, as I said earlier the switch works similarly to a hardware kvmanyways, I've had good experience and success with this setup, allows me to use both seamlessly
>>108992546ok can you point me to thing you call a switch? then I'll probably understand lol
>>108992524NTA but I feel compelled to reply as an active Debian and Arch user>What is the purpose of Arch then?to have a simple linux distro with the latest software>Who asked for it?powerusers>Why it exists?There wasn't a proper alternative back in the day>Maybe it should rmrf itself?We don't want that, arch is really precious and we appreciate it
>>108992524Arch is simple and minimal if you're in a hurry and just need an OS that works.t: Gentoo user who sometimes chroots to Arch to download binaries using pacman.
>>108992550absolutely, see pic and linkrel>multiple inputs>one single outputhttps://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Switcher-Splitter-Selector-Compatible/dp/B09Y14JSFH
>>108992524>why Arch exists?Because Debian, as much as it works greatly, becomes really dated by the end of its life cycle. While most people don't really need the newest stuff, there's a very real use case for people that need newer kernels, drivers, etc. There's where Arch comes into play.But basically if you don't see the "why" of Arch it means you don't need it and wouldn't get any use out of it, then stick to Debian.
>>108992592This, never go bleeding unless you have software or hardware that isn't supported by LTS, its okay to run a bit older if you are playing older games or even AAA games, as long as they aren't doing anything "new" or "quirky" you can run older and have no problems.
>>108992025>have separate boxThis will give you the best compatibility and the least amount of headaches related to that. Obviously comes with the downside of needing to buy more hardware. If you want both your Linux and Windows computers to be gaming-capable, it may get spicy.>use a direct network connection with moonshineThis works well over a network connection but the image quality isn't flawless even at very high bitrate and there's still going to be some latency from the capture > encode > decode process even if network latency is <1ms. Video game performance when also capturing can also vary, some don't like it too much for one reason or another.>extra graphics card and virtualize windowsThis also works quite well but I think compatibility isn't 100%, some games and anti-cheat shit will refuse to run in a VM. IIRC there are some ways to get around this, but YMMV. It can be quite stable but there may still be weirdness, for example I have one such VM with a 3080 Ti which occasionally BSODs if I open GPU-Z and the monitors don't work after GPU driver updates, the VM needs a reboot for the video outputs to work again (I update its drivers via remote desktop as a workaround).>Thoughts?Dual-boot on one computer is another obvious alternative. There's the inconvenience of rebooting to consider but you don't need to buy any extra shit and since Windows would be running directly on the hardware, compatibility with games will be 100%.If you go this route in 2026 I would suggest at least using separate drives for Windows and Linux. Do not bother with "proper" dual boot, just install each OS straight to its own drive and use your mobo's hotkey menu to pick the boot device (F11 after PC startup or whatever it is on your stuff).
>>108992565I was just doing a bit of reading and I think I need a switch with EDID emulation, that seems to fix the messy transitions.
>>108991020>cachy or nobara?I find Cachy to be cleaner, slimmer and better thought-out than Nobara. So I'd choose Cachy.But, as other anons have said, you don't really need a "gaming distro" to play games. You can play on pretty much any distro now, just use your favorite.Although CachyOS is a pretty good Arch-based distro overall, not just for gaming. AFAIK they don't brand themselves as a "gaming distro".
>>108992750Cachy focuses more on their kernel desktop performance enhancements rather then being able to play games properly, which Nobara mainly focuses on cause it's the project of the guy that made GE-Proton/Lutris.
>>108992231>hobbyist distroPeople that aren't subhumans use Fedora, Ubuntu or SteamOS.
>People that aren't subhumans use subhuman distrosWhat did he mean by this?
>>108993035It's obvious he wasn't serious after he said Fedora and I say this as someone who is highly critical of Red Hat.
>>108993045No, I'm serious.
>>108992592Debian has an answer to that as well.
>>108992592Most people actually do need and/or want the newest stuff. Debian is for people who use decade old hardware and don't care for security.
>>108991020Just use regular fedora.
>>108992231ah debian, if only it wasn't so set on sucking off poettering and redhat... thankfully derivates that treat other inits as first class citizens exist.
Probably a bit of a reach these days but is anyone here using optical discs under Fedora KDE at all? Something about it makes the reads go absolutely apeshit with the pickup darting back and forth like it's trying to read from multiple points on the disc at all times for some reason. It absolutely cripples the read speeds and CDs in particular don't seem to be allowed to spin up beyond the bare minimum spindle speed.I wouldn't be surprised if something in Fedora and/or KDE is broken and nobody's noticed because optical media has become decidedly niche in recent years.
>>108993436I haven't had any issues but I'm ironically only ripping Blurays on my desktop
>>108993516BD ripping generally works okay actually now that you mention it. The biggest issues seem to be with CDs and smaller file reads on DVDs. I think part of the issue is Dolphin because looking at the disc at all with it tends to trigger the erratic random reads.
>>108993532I'm testing a rip now with abcde and it seems to be going quickly enough. Could be your drive itself is having problems
>>108993532>>108993542I could also see Dolphin just being shit at navigating on CDs. I haven't even thought to open a CD like that in ages, let me try it
>>108993542I've got a couple of spare drives I can chuck in and try, even a spare BD one. I did actually have a problem with a dodgy SATA cable that was fucking up burns recently and was hoping that would be the source of my read troubles too but that turned out to not be the case. The drive still works properly under Windows as far as I know but I haven't booted into it in a long ass time let alone used the drive under it.
>>108993175Yeah I know, you can make a frankendebian and dive into dependency hell. Or you can just go with Arch and KISS.
>>108993175No good ones. Backports would be good if they had decent coverage, but they don't, and it gets worse every year. You can bring the real distro's runtime with you by using flatpak, Nix, ..., but this leads to horrific memory bloat if you use it a lot and there are interoperability issues. Debian sucks. The average poster here was probably in elementary school the last time it was good.
Is there a decent web-based filemanager with shortcuts like vim/ranger?
>>108992231openSUSE proves otherwise.
>>108994098>OpenSUSE mentioned.Obligatory post.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLdexZlVkAY
>>108993175Or you could use Fedora and have newer packages and more stability than Arch. A happier middle ground.
im using xfce and the external plugins for the panel that monitor system info are complete dogshit. any alternatives?
>>108994132Do you want to still use XFCE? I'm prepping to find try out sway.
>>108994147i'm considering using another de like kde
>>108994178Try out KDE then and if its not to your liking you can "suffer" with GNOME or try a WM.
>>108994186i think i'll do that, yeah. are there are drawbacks i should be aware of? like, will kde eat up my ram as badly as windows does?
>>108994122If you're not staunchly anti-corpo, sure, Fedora is probably the best "Windows alternative" distro you can use.
>>108994248Linux is a corpo project so being anti-corpo while using it is an oxymoron.
>>108993542>>108993553Well I tried a couple of different drives on both Fedora and Windows and the drives behave properly on Windows but act all fucky on Fedora. There's definitely something acting funny here.
>>108994378Linux (the kernel) is definitely a corpo project but gnu/linux is historically more community driven in my eyes. I'm pragmatic and I would argue that corpo-driven or corpo-backed solutions have benefited Linux a lot and usually are better than community ones.
>>108994383Okay this time I tried a DVD drive rather than a BD one and while it was a bit stubborn at first it seems to be reading the same CD-ROM at full speed now. Bizarre stuff.
>>108994003Debian is ok if you have all the software you need and dont care much about updooting and are happy being stuck on older versions of stuff
>>108992565Is there a display port version of this?
Why is Arch pushed so heavily? It feels like everyone is using it.
>>108994785It's got loads of up to date native packages and a lot of support.
>>108994785>It feels like everyone is using it.You live in a bubble.
>>108990468debian testing
>>108994785idk if it's being pushed, it's just a good os
>>108994785>It feels like everyone is using it.If the frequency of something being said online was true, Windows 11 would be so buggy all the hundreds of millions of computers running it would explode, the entire world would be running on Linux, it would be absolutely better in everything, and Arch would be the best distro.In reality, Windows 11 is a shitheap but a workable one, Linux still cannot compete with Windows on the desktop side in any meaningful way outside of individual hobbyists making the switch, and Arch is a trash meme distro peddled by the exact same type of Dunning-Kruger retards that are shitting up the entire Internet with their dogshit exaggerated opinions. Usually with picrel as their avatar as they are literal cattle that can only follow trends and regurgitate bullshit.
>>108995033>the entire world would be running on Linuxit kinda does THOUGH
>>108994785Very non opinionated. Very vanilla packages. Very fast package updates that are very close to upstream, and the existence of the AUR. Assumes almost nothing about how you will use it besides a properly formatted boot partition. By default comes with almost nothing but the kernel and some firmware. Is still traditional Linux, yes something like NixOS or Gentoo can be even more modular but the steps required to achieve that are massive. Great documentation. Explicitly marketed towards power users and has a pragmatism over ideology approach to decision making leading the project so less susceptible to shit like Debian’s drama.
>>108994785Because of CachyOS, which has been shilled to normies and gaymers as a vidya distro, alongside SteamOS being Arch based so they'll probably think Arch is the most gamer friendly ecosystem.
>>108995563Plus, Valve has been putting in work into Arch and the current trend of people wanting to move to Linux being accelerated by Windows 11 being more annoying (not downright broken, annoying) and Valve securing their own business leveraging Linux to do so.Basically faggot cattle that should stay away from both Windows and Linux and buy a console instead. Either learn how to use a computer or die.
>>108994785the cult of the arch
>>108995626I heard that one of the things that Project K2 is going for is making 11 run as well as SteamOS does.
>>108995639They've already been doing some steps towards that, adding a console mode to Win11 that basically halts loading shit that's not necessary, then loads a gaming frontend of your choice, with FOSS alternatives being available. They call it "Xbox mode" and it's Microsoft's hackaround way to have a SteamOS-like handheld mode.Though the second bit of magic that SteamOS has besides not having useless overhead is DXVK doing black magic. Even under Windows you could drop in those DLL's and see the same gains of better frametimes, lower latency and somehow better FPS despite translating DirectX on the fly. So if K2 team wants to move up their performance they'll have to implement Windows-adjusted DXVK into the OS since that's the magic sauce of why sometimes Linux vastly outperforms Windows in some games.
>have bluetooth speakers>computer goes to sleep>wakes back up>doesn't reconnect to themwhy is there so much little shit that doesnt work right? and this is with systemd, the IBM-approved Linux
>>108995783It all comes down to the chipset the Bluetooth is using, Mediatek and Broadcom based ones are fucking shit.So check that. Intel based ones are the best.Mine has an issue pairing more than 2 devices at a time.That problem does not appear on the Windows side of my dual boot.
>>108995837when i say it doesn't reconnect i mean it doesn't do it automatically. i can force a reconnection by going to bluetooth settings. though sometimes even then i have to forget the device (amp) and then reconnectin windows it just works (tm)
>>108990989so few pixels.so much comfort.
Been using Fedora KDE for almost a year now and I like it so far, im used to it alreadybut im moving to a better pc soonish an I was wondering if I should just keep using this or try another distronew pc will be used for>actual gaming>AI (want to try stuff)>Blender (3d modeling)>stuff like solidworks (forgot the name of the alternative)>maybe some video editingIs fedora still good for this? or should I try something else?
>>108994228>will kde eat up my ram as badly as windows does?No but it is one of the heavier DEs so if you have an underpowered system (or old system) you are better off with GNOME or a WM
>>108996245You can do any of that on any distro, if you are bored with it try cachyos. Just don't move to Ubuntu family distros.
>>108992231Literally the most useless poece of shit distro.
>>108996250I’m on Fedora KDE on my thinkpad, modern one I bought a year ago. For some reason, the battery drains fast and is at 86% health.
>>108996265Guess I'll stick to fedora KDE thenANd once I do some maintenance on this toaster I might play with different distros to test and see stuff
>>108996250lol i already installed kde-plasma and tried it out for less than an hour, struggling to get the audio working, before deciding to move back to xfce. i probably should've installed the meta package or group if i wanted a better initial experience. oh well. all i wanted was a better taskbar anyway, so i'll probably just end up using sway to get waybar once wayland support on xfce is good enough.
>>108996300What's your idle resources look like?>>108996315Damn, sorry I had to step out on you but I had to go over to my parents house to do yardwork since they are too old to do it themselves. What was the audio problem?
>>108990368What is the most light weight DE in Linux?
>>108996315You can try LXQt its 100% Wayland ready and its the lightest DE in Linux, I don't know about the most efficient>>108996337LXQt
>>108996337It use to be LXDE, but LXQt (its successor) is basically just as light, maybe a tiny bit less so.
>ipv6.disable=1>XLibre>OpenRC>seatd>GNU Icecat and Dillo>I2P
>>108996327well before i installed kde-plasma, i had to uninstall pulseaudio because there was a dependency conflict between that package and pipewire-pulse when i tried installing easyeffects. after doing that, installing pipewire-pulse, and logging into kde for the first time, my speakers weren't being recognized. i gave up rather quickly on trying to solve that issue so i could focus on getting a feel for the new de, didn't like the feeling of it, then switched back.
>>108996358Generally when pulse audio doesn't "recognize something" it just mutes its and all you have to do is go into alsa and unmute it, because pulseaudio is autistic as fuck and just has everything as default-mute if it doesn't recognize it.
>>108996352IPv6 is actually more secure surely with privacy extensions. A random MAC address will give you a different one each time. IPv4 really should be scrapped. None of this dual-stack complexity.
>>108996441silence cuck i2pgods are taking
>>108996452Your router id stays the same all the time even with ip change though.
>gaymersyawn
>>108996473I dont think that's how I2P works
Getting sick of using gmail in my browser and having them record my sessions and shoving AI in my face. Looking for an "offline" client that is simple and compact. What do you recommend? Thunderbird? Betterbird? Evolution?
>>108996763I like Betterbird myself. I think I had to fiddle with the defaults a bunch before I got a layout I liked but I'm plenty happy with it now.
>>108996763Betterbird. I'd use thunderbird because I like sticking to the "root" project generally, but the motherfuckers haven't implemented minimize to system tray functionality in all the years that shit has been in development. Betterbird has it, so I use that.
When the fuck is Plasma going to switch to Vulkan and why haven't they already done this?
>>108990368Is there a Python shell for Linux and does it still use bash? And if it does can I replace it with Fish or Zsh?
>>108991020>want a gaming focused distrobut why?
>>108996808Xonsh.
>>108996832>ExtensionsOkay, now I'm excited, please, please, please tell me there is a javascript bridge in there that lets me call in javascript libraries!
>install Gentoo>have to enable the testing repos in order to get basically any relevant softwareACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64">now that you are using testing versions for everything, compiling some pieces of software fail until the foreseeable future * ERROR: kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-6.6.5-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase): * ninja -v -l0 -j32 failedBeen trying out Gentoo like 3 times the past 10 years and it's always the same story. Is this how it's supposed to be used?
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"
* ERROR: kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-6.6.5-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase): * ninja -v -l0 -j32 failed
>>108996904No, you should only use testing on certain packages in package.accept_keywords but keep everything else stable
>>108996922That process goes like>want testing for $package>go ahead and do that>computer says no, you have enable ~amd64 for some other shit too>the other shit requires ~amd64 for yet some other package>repeat x times>"fuck it, I'll just enable ~amd64 globally">????Sigh, I don't even remember which packages it was originally about.>>108996441>>108996352IPv6 link-locals are great when neckbearding with "homelab" stuff. Too bad the fe80::x%y addressing format isn't universally recognised so it breaks some configs.
>>108996904There should be a follow up where he is actually was correct the whole time, like in the show.
>>108996904>Windows Board Members when they see Linux getting support.
>>108996763Specifically Kontact and FairEmail with mailbox.org email service.
i was an archfag for a long time until i got kinda tired of having to maintain my system and pay attention to arch's news feed in case some random upstream package broke plus i caught wind of the age verification kikery so I switched to devuan for shits and giggles cause i hadnt touched apt in a long time and i gotta admit it's fairly comfy after having switched my primary repo to its unstable branch for actual up to date softwareit's had a few hiccups here and there but nothing the odd bash script couldnt fix and once i got a setup going that i liked it just kinda werked, not saying arch doesnt just werk either, but i do enjoy the convenience of not having to pay attention too hard to my update cycle my only complaint is apt is pretty dog shit compared to pacman, im not a huge fan of a repository based package manager, and debian's documentation is obtuse but i just chalk that down to it being designed for servers over regular desktop use
>>108997118seriously who the fuck uses debian for servers when better and more specialized shit exists for that use cases
How do I rufus on Linux? need to do a new boot USB,[spoiler] or does the Fedora Media Writer actually works on Linux?[/spoiler]
>>108997133plenty of fucking people do
>>108997142Through a Windows virtual machine. If you're making a boot USB with a Linux ISO you could use any USB writer that comes with whatever DE you're using. For Windows USB installers you either to make one manually or use Ventoy.
>>108997142Just use dd, if it's for windows idk (woeusb worked the last time I tried it but it was YEARS ago, maybe ventoy can handle it now)
>>108997133if im not wrong i think its just kinda the default thing that's taught in school to those specializing in networking plus it's fine for a basic website that doesnt do much other than act as a personal portfolio or blog or something>>108997142just use dd, list your disks in the terminal with lsblk and point it to the block device that is your USB drivesudo dd bs=4M if=path/to/disk.iso of=/dev/disk/by-id conv=fsync oflag=direct status=progressif its a windows iso use a virtual machine, i have no idea if there's a utility on linux that actually works at all to make windows ISOs
>>108997142As opposed to Windows ISOs, Linux ISOs work as-is, you don't need any specialised software for flashing them to USB drives, you simply "dd".dd if=some_linux_installer.iso of=/dev/your_USB_driveAlthough for UEFI PCs you could simply copy the ISO file contents to a FAT-formated USB drive and UEFI will likely pick it up. As in>mount the ISO so you can read its contents>stick in USB drive>open it with your file manager>copy-paste ISO contents to your USB drive>>108997133What are some server distros?>>108997168>>108997170Had a NTFS-formated pendrive with Windows ISO contents and it worked just like that. Was kinda a surprise my UEFI could read NTFS.(had to use NTFS as Windows installer had a file over 4GiBs in size)
dd if=some_linux_installer.iso of=/dev/your_USB_drive
>>10899713316% of the economy, most of it financial, military, and other projects that require super stable deployments and won't crash at peak hours, but these projects are rarely cutting edge and are more legacy or things that have been around for a very long time. 44% of the commerical economy uses Red Hat and I think Ubuntu servers make up roughly ~35% with a margin of error of 15% due to opening and closing of commerical services and endevours.
>>108997175It's basically a gamble if your motherboard can natively read/boot NTFS drives or not, which is why Rufus for a long time has included its own NTFS bootloader along with an NTFS driver so any motherboard can read the USB.
can't believe i'm finally saying this, but cachyos is good.
>>108997279why not just visit archwiki's dedicated gaming page, enable their tweaks, and then just install cachy's kernel or any other kernel you want on a bog standard arch installation without dealing with cachy as a middle man?
>>108997279Stop coming into threads I'm in when all I know you for is posting obese naked women in /gif/
>>108997296So I can have it all ready in 5 minutes instead of accidentally nuking my existing drives with Arch's text-based installer and spending 5 hours setting up udev rules and firewalls and third party repositories
>>108997296convenience. i've been in a crazy distro hopping phase for a year, and have been stuck with solus being the only one that worked cause other ones had plenty of issues, including arch/cachy since i had ntfs drive issues that i couldn't figure out how to fix until a few days ago.i'm kinda tired of spending hours tweaking everything to work, and cachy so far is simple enough.>>108997298but why are YOU in those threads anon...
>>108997317>accidentally nuking my existing drives with Arch's text-based installerskill issue>spending 5 hours setting up udev rules and firewalls and third party repositoriesthis is fair, but desu in the age of gen AI just have it create an install script for you based on your needs if you dont wanna learn how to create shell scripts
>>108997323>but why are YOU in those threads anon...I'm not so much in those threads as much as I just notice who makes the OP before I hide them...
>>108997323>i've been in a crazy distro hopping phase for a year, and have been stuck with solus being the only one that worked cause other ones had plenty of issuesevery distro tries to solve the problem of trying to appeal to as broad as userbase as possible yet paradoxically end up appealing to no one, hence why distro hopping is such a universal experience when it comes to linuxthe only thing that solves it is simply a better understanding of what linux actually is and how most distros operate under the hoodat the end of the day most distros are mostly nothing more than someone's own personal config packed up downstream of debian, arch, or fedora trying to sell itself as the "end all be all of distros" or the "windows of linux", a statement which makes zero sense when you actually understand linux as a system
>Installation scripts and patching scripts don't work with rust utils>Software is still unpatched for Ubuntu 26.04>most likely never will beUbuntu is literally a hobbyist distro pushing whatever BlackRock will tell them to. Popularizing Ubuntu is a Microsoft psyop and it's going to die with Microsoft's Fedora fork.
>>108997369ubuntu has been dead ever since they shoved shortcuts to amazon in their fucking side bar back during the unity days
>>108997175>>108997171>>108997170>>108997168I meant to install Fedora in another pc, the USB i have is like 2-3 versions behind, I made it back when I was on windows, so yeah I ran into the "oh...no rufus here" situation
>>108997376But it's still used by devs, and as long as it is used I need to fix that poo. Best Regards.
>>108994003Sarge was pretty bad and didn't have competent enough hardware support. I was stuck waiting 2 years for Etch for my laptop's native res and wifi to work.
>>108997423So yeah, you can just use Fedora Writer to wipe and format the USB again with a newer Fedora ISO.
>>108996337xfce of courselxde is super slow
>>108997349downstream distros/forks become popular when upstream devs insist on things that nobody wants.
>>108990368Reposting from an old thread. I am trying to get qemu to connect a Win7 VM to the internet, however all information I've come across either leads me down an endless rabbit hole with a solution that doesn't work or no solution. I have gotten virtio drivers to work, but networking is something I have no idea how to do. Just so y'all know, I am trying to get an old computerized sewing machine to work and I am on Wi-fi. A few anons already got me through the hardest part of this process, so I see two solutions to this:1. I get the internet to work and proceed from there.2. Less preferable, I transfer the .exe file into the VM and hope I don't need to track down any obscure drivers on Linux (assuming Microslop can find them, albeit on their best OS imo).The problem is, time is of the essence here. Everyday I am not doing custom patches with questionable artwork incurs opportunity cost. I would offer a free one to the person who fixes my shit but after 12 years of Mongolian Basketweaving I still don't know if such an offer is halal according to the mods.
>>108997376Better let everyone who still uses it know.
>>108997328>let the ai write your arch install script>*all drives nuked* *motherboard catches fire*>You're right, I'm sorry, you asked me to not erase all of the data in the non-empty drives but I did so anyway. This is inexcusable.
>>108993972frankendebian isn't that much different than arch combined with the AUR, you can get dependency hell in both
>>108997296Why not just use cachy and not bother with extra work when it already does all that shit for you? Do you really think manually configuring Arch is going to get you brownie points?
Linux Mint XFCE or LMDE?
how do you use tmsu? im thinking of this: >have tmsu files folder >save meme there with filename as tags (tag tag2 tag3.jpg)>later run script to extract tags from filename and move filename to shasum.jpg>run tmsu add extracted tags for shasum.jpgthoughts?
>>108998126LMDE uses Cinnamon, so lookwise it's no different than Linux Mint Cinnamon, the real difference is in the repositories, LMDE uses the Debian repos while all other Mint editions use the Ubuntu repos.
>>108998165Alright then, would you say the Debian repos are better? I'm just looking for the more stable and lightweight system.
>>108998182the debian repos are always better than the ubongo repos.
>>108998220Neat, thanks. I thought so.
>>108998227debian (and ubuntu as downstream) break packages / software and your hardware on purpose debian is shit and only retards use it
>>108998182They are very similar, both contain nearly the same software. The real difference is in how the repositories are structured but the practical difference for you is mainly that ubuntu repos tend to be updated more (and as such contain newer software and are less stable) and they contain more proprietary software.
>>108997142if it's a linux iso, usb image or other image that can run straight from a usb drive (i.e. basically anything that isn't a windows iso since they seem to be diametrically opposed to making hybrid bootable images), then you can just write the image to the drive with several tools, including even simply;# cp image.iso /dev/sdzyes really, you can use cp for thisfor windows iso's there's a few methods, i've had the most success with ventoy. basically you run ventoy which then installs to a flash drive, once it's installed you can literally drag iso's over to the drive and you can boot from them. you've probably heard of noobs copying iso's as files onto usb drives, well this actually makes that work for real
# cp image.iso /dev/sdz
>copying a directory with rsync --info=progress 2>supposed to show how much i've transferred and the percentage completed>the progress just stays at 99% the whole timewhat a useless feature
What's a lightweight distro to run on an Intel Atom A270 with 1GB RAM? I've got XP loaded on an old netbook and it runs quite responsively, but even AntiX feels slower; is there a 'modern' distro that's lighter than XP, or should I try something older?
>>108998470guess this is 32bit? try crunchbang++. oh yeah latest trixie doesn't 32. I installed it on a intel stick but haven't done anything with it.
>>108995639That's just PR bullshit. It's not the first time Microsoft vaguely promised to improve their OS. Windows has too much technical debt and too many decisions are made by non-technical people.>>108995654The Xbox mode is nothing. It's just launching their shitty Xbox client and not launching explorer.exe. It does absolutely nothing to address performance issues and doesn't address the inability for the OS to be controller by a game controller (KDE has this feature natively, with no dependency on the Steam client).The only thing Xbox mode does is reduce the initial RAM consumption by 1GB. That's all. But using the Xbox mode Windows and regular Windows is no different in terms of OS smoothness and game performance.
>>108998495assuming he meant the N270, no, it supports 64bityou'd think you'd want a 32bit distro anyway to save memory, but given that cpu (a 2008 single core 3 watt atom), you'll want all the performance you can get, and 64bit distros run faster than 32bit on 64bit hardware. ideally you'd use x32ABI, but that never really took off so i don't know of any distro besides gentoo which supports it (and gentoo of course for such a machine would practically demand a build server)as for lightweight distros, it rarely matters what distro you pick, it's all about what software you install/run on it. you could try one of the few actually lightweight distros like Alpine, but otherwise whatever you want with lightweight software will do about as well as any other. main thing is picking your software and using other techniques to make the most of the small amount of ram, like keeping /tmp on disk, using zram, etc.
>>108998553>That's just PR bullshit.Because they haven't miraculously fixed everything everyone has been complaining about the moment they've announced the initiative?But I get it, you just want to be perpetually mad at something, so the fact that there's a hint of Windows getting even slightly less shit is just an excuse to be even more mad because you might lose a thing to be mad about, and you need to be mad all the time to feel alive. Just go see a therapist already.
>>108998470Anything running openbox or iceWM should work on devices with 250MB RAM and a single core CPU. You can always try TinyCoreLinux, it's the lightest usable Linux distro. But most modern software won't run well, you'd be limited to CLI/TUI software or extremely light GUI software. Don't expect any web browser to work outside of niche minimalist ones which don't have half the JS and CSS features and make most modern websites only partially work.
>>108992979>FedoraExperimental beta testing for Red Hat>UbuntuNot bad but heavier than Debian>SteamOSI'm not a gamer>DebianJust works>>108996276How so? It just works. Stable and dependable.
>>108998571>they've announced the initiativeFrom what I understand they didn't even announce anything. The media outlets are just talking about some alleged "leaked" internal communications. There's no guarantee of anything being done. There are no real promises.>Because they haven't miraculously fixed everythingNo, because this isn't the first time they've done this. They did the same thing back in Windows 8. What followed Windows 8 was Windows 10, an extremely bug ridden and shitty version of Windows which had massive privacy issues. The version which caused millions of people to start looking into Linux as an alternative OS. The version during which they fired most of their QA team and moved the responsibility of testing the OS to the end user. What followed Windows 10 was Windows 11, which is even worse. The only thing that's better in Windows 11 is the UI, since they finally stopped using unpaid interns to whip up the UI in paint.exe like they did with Windows 10.Windows has gone from bad to worse every single year since Windows 7. In order to fix Windows they'd have to revert almost everything they've done in the last 12 years.
>>108997581>didn't have competent enough hardware supportThat's a roundabout way of saying you're incompetent at buying hardware.
>>108997244>NTFS bootloader>NTFS driverWhat are these even? Some magic EFI executables?>>108998470Compile a tailored Gentoo system using your better PC and copy the system over. I've literally done that for some e-waste-tier PCs using my fancy ayymd Ryzen with shitload of cores.>I've got XP loaded on an old netbook and it runs quite responsively, but even AntiX feels slower;Well yeah Windows XP beats most Linux setups in that regard.
>>108999098Yeah they're executables that run off a small FAT partition on a Rufus made USB, basically teaching any motherboard you run the USB on to instantly know how to boot from NTFS partitions for this USB only.
Downloading and running weird exe files aside, what other malware sources is Linux susceptible to? Can you get some virus by simply going to a shady website? Or through some non-exe file?
>>108999865>running weird exe fileseven if you ran an exe with a virus it would only effect the wine environment and half the time the virus would just error out because the majority of the dll and registry attacks aren't there to begin with.
>>108999865You should know what your running if you run .sh, if you can't or don't read code you should be running things that are public, have been public and around for a month or two, the Linux community is actually been fairly proficient at preventing or stopping bad faith attacks like that so as long as you aren't copy pasting weird stuff you get from someone in a dm message into the terminal you should be fine.
>>108999877>>108999898It's just that you hear of websites stealing your clipboard, cookies or doing whatever else by you simply going there. Or random-ass non-program files hiding malware. Is that not a concern on Linux?
>>108999961Wayland's security focus basically makes that impossible these days. On X11 though it's very easy.
>>108999961>It's just that you hear of websites stealing your clipboard, cookies or doing whatever else by you simply going there.Sounds more like a windows problem and cookies really aren't that spooky because basically everyone does it for marketing and that is how they track and advertise to you.>Or random-ass non-program files hiding malware.PDF, Office, and notepad attacks were common in the early 2000s, not so much anymore, hacking these days is more about social engineering and targeting specific people or corporations than it is just randomly fucking over someone because you can.>Is that not a concern on Linux?Less of a concern unless you are going to shady websites and downloading shit, which I wouldn't recommend, but most websites attacks just by "visiting" aren't automated, its someone who specifically targeted you and was waiting for you to click a link, the rest is generally just shit that good does legally and the only reason they get away with it is that they are a trusted company to most governments and keep PII (Personally Identifiable Information) hidden... ...Unless you or a corporation pays for it...
>>108999877You're wrong. Windows malware can absolutely affect files outside your wine prefix. Most wine prefixes have links to your home or your root. Any Windows malware that encrypts, deletes or leaks your files will affect Linux too, or at a minimum your home directory.Go into your wine prefix and check the "dosdevices/" folder. It usually has a z:\ drive which is a link to your entire root, from which your entire /home can be read and written to, and a lot of your system can be read even by an unprivileged user.Wine is not a sandbox. If you're looking for a sandbox then you need to use Bottles, enable the dedicated sandbox mode and manually unlink the z:\ drive.>>108999961Websites require user interaction to read your clipboard. Wayland requires apps to be in focus to be able to read your clipboard. In both cases they're restricted to your last clipboard entry.Linux has a better file permission system than Windows. Files that you download from the internet won't have the permission to execute. You have to manually run them and confirm that you want to do so, or manually give them the "x" permission.
>>109000108Viruses won't path to home because the moment they do they error out.
>>109000108>and a lot of your system can be read even by an unprivileged user.99% of these attacks can be thwarted by sudo and a password, if you are a guest or not a permissioned user the virus will be prompted with the sudo pw and then it either errors out or inputs an automated response and errors out so the most they know if its reporting telemetry is that you use wine on a linux system and maybe the linux system and version.
>>109000114No they don't. You can prove yourself wrong by just checking a few random youtube videos where people are trying out if Windows malware works on Linux. Most malware works just fine on Linux. And in these cases Windows is actually more secure since Defender will block, quarantine and delete all that malware while WINE will just say "Yup, I'll run it".
>>109000152Just because a virus executes and doesn't complain doesn't mean its working.
>>109000148Your home folder is accessible to any executable file you run in wine. There's no need for "sudo" when wine is already running at your level of privilege. It has a total access to your entire /home by default as do all .exe files you run.>>109000168Read what I'm saying: almost all malware that encrypts/deletes/uploads your files 100% works on Linux and WILL fuck up your home directory. Wannacry still works on Linux to this date and is capable of nuking your /home.
>try fedora 44 workstation for default gnome experience>Computer freezes when I change some video settings>try fedora 44 with plasma>looks nice, but visibly stutters when interacting with the system>fucked up hdr support, causing my tv's local dimming to burn out my eyeballs>try debian 13 with gnome>stuttersI guess I'll just go back to ubuntu. I keep trying alternatives but they always disappoint. It's been this way for the last 8 years at least.
>>109000191>Wannacry still works on Linux to this date and is capable of nuking your /home.I think you, like most of the grifters on youtube, are being overly pedantic and hysterical.
>>109000289Same thing but with Mint and I don't go back, I just put up with it for a year and move on, eventually I'll find a home or just up back on Linux again, lol.I think I'm going to try Debian or Devuan next depending where the federal age verification bill goes.
>>109000436he's right though, wine ootb is not intended to be a sandbox, it's deliberately not. it mounts / as Z: and symlinks common folders like Documents and Desktop with your real one because wine is supposed to integrate with your system. that is, running a program in wine should work like running a native application.if you think running malware in wine is safe for any reason, you don't know anything about wine.https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/FAQ#how-good-is-wine-at-sandboxing-windows-appsif you want to run something in a sandbox, use a sandbox such as bubblewrap with wine, as wine itself doesn't do anything like that. you could remove the Z: mount but that doesn't guarantee there aren't other ways to do damage if something is designed with wine in mindthere are also anti-virus programs for linux if you want that as well
>>109000493The issue here was never about sandboxing
>>109000502the other replies i've read are mostly talking about thinking that malware can only affect the wine environment and not the rest of the system, which is factually untrue
Does GNOME not allow tearing in fullscreen like KDE? I'm seeing horrible flickering in all games at 60/75 fps, on modern games it's fine with vsync and vrr but old and/or emulated games ONLY run at those frames, I can't find any solution online for this shit either.
>>109000514Depends what the virus is targeting, most people who make viruses aren't professionals and target specifically windows because of its massive share in the market and almost all of them don't reference home, don't target home, don't target PII/documents because that would take forever to sift through, which is why they target dlls and windows kernels that highlight important information for them.
>>108990368>bash>zsh>fishAm I missing any? Is there anything lighter than bash?
>>109000534many won't work in wine, sure, if they're designed to exploit a flaw in windows or use something missing or differently-functioning in wine, like if it tried to make a scheduled task or something i don't think wine has support for that since it doesn't make sense for it tobut many simpler ones that just encrypt/delete files or whatever may work
>>109000573>Is there anything lighter than bash?Dash, Ash, MkshAll of these though lack functionality that bash has though so I would kinda ask around and research before replacing bash. Oh and yes, lighter does also mean simpler in this case, if bash frustrated you with how low-level and simple it was, these are going to frustrate you even more.
>>109000590>but many simpler ones that just encrypt/delete files or whatever may workIf you don't have a password for sudo this would be a problem, which is why the user privilege escalations or code privilege escalation executions are always immediately reported and people make a big deal about it, most viruses don't do that unless they are targeting linux.
>>109000701you don't need root to ruin someone's day. you don't need root to delete everything in your home directory, which is where you store anything you care about
>>109000701Again, you don't need a "sudo" password to access your home folder. When you open your image viewer, it can delete your files without you running it through sudo. When you open your image editor, it can edit image files in your home directory without requiring sudo. By the same principle a Windows virus can delete/encrypt your files too, since it already has permission to do so. Wine passes your user permissions to .exe files it runs. There is no privilege escalation needed to access your /z:/home/ since all .exe files you run in wine are given the same read-write permissions as your user, and your user has rw permissions for /z:/home/.Fucking up the OS is irrelevant. All data that is relevant to you lives exclusively in your home folder and your external drives.Do you really think malware is hardcoded to only target a Windows c:\ drive? Fuck no. Almost all malware that deals with user data tampering will recursively go through all mounted disks, which includes your z:\ drive where your entire Linux system is. Files that are inaccessible get skipped over, but anything that your user can access is a valid target.Again, look up the youtube videos which demonstrate how easy this is. All you need to do is double click an .exe and run it with wine to see your entire home directory get encrypted.Any gamer running Windows games through Wine, Proton, Bottles, Lutris, etc. is 100% vulnerable to any Windows malware which recursively goes through the filesystem and deletes, encrypts or steals files. Even more vulnerable than a Windows user, since Linux doesn't have an active AV like Windows has Defender.
when some one says that they dont want to install linux it makes me want to become violentlook at my cute disk usage anal lies er bash script!
I am trying to install Mint on my other laptop, but I keep getting invalid number errors, or a bunch of other errors when I try. It's weird, because I used that same USB to install Artix on this computer, and it worked just fine, and I had booted Mint from that other computer before without any problem.
>>109001596Could be anything.>corrupt iso file (verify the checksum)>corrupt flash memory cells in your USB device (check the device for bad blocks)>corrupt flash memory cells in your SSD (check the device for bad blocks)>your RAM is going bad (check with memtest)
>>109001539That's not very cute
I tried googling my question but it is giving me more answers related to connectivity or ppa issues instead of my actual problem:In Ubuntu if I run apt update and apt upgrade it shows me no updates, then I go to the GUI software updater and shows like 3 or 4 things to update and I am trying to find out why the CLI doesn't show them
>processing shadersno one told me about this
>>109002297afaik is mostly a waste of time and disk space if you have remotely recent hardware, since the engines are able to render in real time without performance loss. I could be wrong tho.
I would like a hug please.
i love gentoo so much it's unrealwhy did you guys say it's a meme OS? it's literal heaven
>>109002946*hugs you with malicious intent*
>>109003010That's too friendly anon
>>109000573Debian changed its default shell from bash to dash many years ago. It is faster than bash while being POSIX compliant. So maybe use that. Note the Debian default login shell is still bash.
A while back, I tried switching to Linux. I installed Bazite on my computer, and everything was going great. Unfortunately, I have two hard drives full of data and games that together total 1.5 TB in NTFS format, and I could only access them in read-only mode. Is there any way to use NTFS on Linux? Right now, I don’t have the means to migrate all that data.
>>109002954the compiles times are the waiting queue to join the secret society of gentoo, the gentoo amd64 handbook is the rite of passage
>>109003631Yes you can use NTFS on Linux by installing the appropriate package that lets you mount it, but it's not recommended to do this long term. It can accumulate errors and they can become hard to fix. You can rsync the files to a temporary location, reformat it in ext4 or xfs, and rsync the files back.
>>109003631the method i use is to open gnome disk utility and open up mount options, then uncheck user session defaults and restart, and you should have it correctly mounted. might also help to change the filesystem type to ntfs-3g if it's on bazzite, idk how that distro works.also for using steam i'd follow the section at the bottom of this page:https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/wiki/Using-a-NTFS-disk-with-Linux-and-Windows
I have a load of videos to sort through and I just realised on linux I can delete the file with the video open. Get in
>>108990368Is there a way to make ,lnks work in linux with wine?
as much as i love KDE, you gotta admit that big fucking file transfers suck ass under dolphin. is there a better UI solution than just manually mounting every drive and doing an rsync to the destination?