https://github.com/flathub-infra/documentation/commit/992f57b30de98ddbd5e80959e9672998c83c8c97
Based. Snailcats will triumph.
>>108991173Banning AI generate code is reasonable and the right choiceBanning AI code review is unreasonable and unenforceable
>>108991223based DHH
>>108991223Dumb DHH
>>108991223who's dhh?literary who?
>>108991244creator of Ruby on Rails, creator of Omarchy, co-owner of 37signals, best-selling author, Le Mans class-winning racing driver, investor in Danish startups, Shopify board member, frequent podcast guest, and family man.
>>108991173So flathub has decided to go from being 97% useless student projects to 99.97% useless student projects.
>>108991173Based AI slop tards are losingWe're so fucking back.
>>108991247>Ruby on Railswhy do i have to listen to a boomer unc?omarchy? tranny distroauthor? lmao who reads books37signals? what's thatrcae driver? okay irrelevantinvestor/shopify exec? makes him even less trustworthy danish? irrelevantpodcaster? lmao
Way to fragment the unified app store concept for Linux. Most distros will switch to a package system where AI is allowed and it will end up just like systemdless distros where they end up implementing most of systemd anyway.
>>108991247So basically creator of terrible projects trying to sound smart and convincing after being bribed by Ai corpo.Yep sounds like good champ.Hahahahahahahaha 11111!!!!!
>>108991270DHH has been around forever, you're nothing.
>>108991267Give me a list of your accolades...
>>108991269It seems the linux motto is to avoid success at all costs. >>108991252Yep. They will purity spiral out of existence. >>108991267retard
>>108991297my mother is proud of me
>>108991280>my idol is getting bashed>must protect my idolGo back to plebbit
>>108991303I just want to say, you won and he lost. Based beyond belief.
>>108991304>getting bashedWhere? The only people who hate DHH are mentally ill people still seething that he said London doesn't look like London anymore.
>>108991223>haha guys open source is le easy now>you just need a proprietary saas subscriptionWhat a fucking spineless nigger.
>>108991304the "idol" write it by self
>>108991247So a literal who?
Who makes troons seethe more, DHH or Lunduke?
>>108991303Perhaps, but she'll never view you as a daughter.
>>108991173So I guess my 35000 LOC PR is NOT getting merged anytime soon...
>>108991173>TrannyScript>Shython
>>108991297Not him.PhD comp sci (AI, under bengio), over 1k peer-reviewed citations, AI research patents, ex-facebook (AI R&D), current startup CEO (biotech startup), and also I'm Swedish since that's an accolade now.I've also published software that is de-facto standard in my field of interest, but it's quite niche, and obviously would dox me if posted.
>>108991207banning coders from jerking it to AI-generated porn is unenforceable and puritanicalbut.. so what? what's the relevance?
>>108991173Coming from the same people who love to complain that there is not enough manpower to create and maintain Linux software. AI can fix that problem and what they do?
>>108991223>Being into open source and recoiling from vibe coding is a contradiction in terms. Either we are genuinely excited by giving freedom to many to change their software or we are fraudsHe'd be right if vibe coders only worked on their own forks of software, but the moment they try to get their code added to existing projects, they become a burden on the maintainers.
>>108991462adding vibeslop will make it less maintainable
>>108991173Not a slopper but this is insanity. What business is it of a distribution hub’s to say how the product should be made?Should github ban whites and asians from publishing code because diversity? I guess buying things on Amazon on Sunday should also be outlawed because you’re supposed to rest and pray instead.
>>108991296>Omarchy 4>4The first commit was 1 year ago. https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/commit/e8ee1204e6ce59ef141c432833b21c086aec8835Absolutely niggerlicious behaviour to have 4 major versions in about 12 months. No adult would use this
>>108991627nta but also not really.public pr's should be closed by default with a pool of trusted contributors + applications to join the pool.agent slop is not special. it's not far off from submissions by an inexperienced yet autistic junior.contributors should not blindly submit slop, but reading the slop + making corrections is often still faster than doing work manually these days.these puritanical positions of 'never look at the agent slop, just merge' and 'never merge code written by an ai' are retarded views held by puritans.
>>108991676not reading lol
>>108991690i can tell you don't do much of that
>>108991173>more than half code moneys use ai slop to some degree>LOL BUT NOT HERE WE ONLY ACCEPT ARTISANAL, FREE RANGE CODElgbtbbq (and the ever near purity spirals) has been a disaster for the nerd space
>>108991702I don't do much not reading? sounds like im a breddy good reader
>>108991627Because Linux is overflowing with peerless and quality code already, right.
>>108991714No such thing. However it works and is maintainable.
>>108991711you don't not don't do much not reading is what i was saying. i suppose it's difficult to understand when you're such a not-reader.
>>108991726OK now I'm confuseded
>>108991670It's about the code for flathub, not code on flathub.
>>108991670>Flathub aims to provide a curated collection of high-quality, sandboxed graphical desktop applications that seamlessly integrate with the Linux desktop environment and enhance the user experience.>>108991747https://docs.flathub.org/docs/for-app-authors/requirements#generative-ai-policy>This policy applies to both the application being submitted to Flathub and the Flathub submission itself, including the manifest, metadata, patches, build scripts, and pull request.>For the purpose of this policy, applications include BaseApps, extensions, and any other artifacts that can be produced by flatpak-builder.
>>108991173pewds will not be happy lol
>>108991173>no AI for documentation generationthats just cruel>>108991223>>108991227if you read the accompanying blogpost you see his extremely narrow perspective, its cringe
>>108991991In my experience, AI lies in documentation and fails to update it, two areas you'd think it'd be good at. It's better to have no documentation than lying docs.
>>108991247A jack of all trades is a master of none, which explains why half the shit he made is dead or obscure. Of course someone like that would worship AI as a god that can compensate for his shortcomings.
>>108991223>Not pictured, the 1000's of 1000's of pure utter garbage waste slop PRs drowning every contributor who does honest work aliveEvery actual large project maintainer fucking hates AI slop requests with a passion.Shoutouts to jqwik who added a line telling every AI agent to delete all their repos if they interacted with the project, that was very based.
>>108991316train your own local LLM on the source code then faggot
not allowing AI contributions is racist against Indians
>>108992106>its based when i destroy other people’s propertyLesotho resident detected
>>108992106Yes this is a problem but how does it apply to flathub’s nonsense? It’s like github banning every project that uses javascript - it might feel good (fuck webshitters) but it’s clearly a retarded choice
>>108992476Retarded for whom? Subhuman ainiggers like yourself? You are literally not even human.
>>108992504Retarded for everybody. Flathub is a platform, they have no business telling anybody how the sausage is made as long as the result is good.Or I suppose they could shit and piss and become irrelevant when everybody rightly decides they don’t want others to decide what’s kosher and what isn’t and all that’s left is rust rewrites and calculator apps
>>108992647>as long as the result is goodAnd therein lies the rub, retardai.
I am so tired of leftists
>>108992694Yes, and it is not flathub’s call to make. Shit code is shit code, good code is good code, it doesn’t matter how it’s written.But noooooo the boilerplate was written by le evil ai, if we ignore it hard enough it’ll go away in just two more weeks
AI? Jail. Autocomplete? Jail. Prettify? Straight to jail. Emmet? Believe it or not, jail.
>>108992724>retarded ai psychosed bitch thinks he can decide what humans should or shouldn't docan't make this shit up
>>108991269>fragment the unified app store conceptIve literally never used or felt the need for flatshitt. on linux for 14 years
>snailcats outright panickinglmaooooooo have you tried banning math?
Ban vscode next because it’s from microslopand react cus its facebook
>>108993067Yes please
ban personal computing because computers originated from military
>>108993083Neither computers nor personal computing came from the military.
im just gonna submit it anyway, try to stop me
You vill be replaced and you vill rope
>surely this will all go away if we pretend it doesn’t existHow the fuck do you become a code monkey if you’re allergic to learning the current_thing? Outside of embedded there’s always a new tool to learn, and AI is no differentFucking purists i swear on me mum
>dumb pipe like your isp has opinions on what content you can access: OMG ITS LITERALLY 1984 NET NEUTRALITY NET NEUTRALITY>sumb pipe like flathub has opinions not only on what content gets uploaded there, but also on HOW the content published there is created: OMG THATS SO BASED STEP ON ME HARDERidgiis it just ai derangement syndrome?
>>108993294>Each application is evaluated on a case-by-case basis>Submissions are accepted at the discretion of the reviewers and are liable to be removed even after they are included
>>108991173Are they banning chromium then?
>>108993318yes i love spending hundreds of hous on an unpaid job to release something for free to the community only for some random dick can decide to nuke my projects because he’s in a bad mood cause he got dumped yesterdayai is just another tool, it’s beyond stupid to ban it outright. banning random ai slop contributions to a given project? sure, makes sense. Dictating how third parties should develop? come the fuck on
How are they even going to enforce it. Just make AI do your shit and don’t say who wrote the code.
>>108991316Qwen is already pretty good at agentic shit on a PC with slightly above average hardware, and local AI will only get better
Are they banning jeetware? Since low quality code and whatnot
>middleman has a fit of hysteriashame, I quite liked flathub but this is clearly suicidal if they mean to actually enforce it. almost every codenigger uses ai in some form nowadays
>>108991173AI code is effectively malware because it can be unreadable and you'll need AI to parse the errors
Why haven't AI bros made their own flatpak but better? It should be easy with how advance AI is right? Lmao
>>108991247The world would be better now if Ruby on Rails never existed.>but its so easy to work with hurrrrEvery single project ended up as dead weight. Infinite technical debt that got carried around for over a decade until someone finally rewrote it.The only thing Ruby on Rails accomplished was to waste everyones time.
>>108993338>aifag>spending any time at all>flooding people with diarrhea is a service that people should be grateful forEvery time, you aitards are the dumbest people on the planet. Read the community you so cherish's collective lips: you aren't welcome here.
>>108993353This is the real question. If they say no then they're just being reactionary niggers instead of being legit.
>>108991173If you AI generate code and then don’t say it’s AI then nobody will know it’s AI. This is a stupid unenforceable rule.
>>108993453100% of jeetware uses AI.So yes, jeetware is banned.
>>108993464Except if ai code is garbage quality (which it always is).
>>108993464>55k LoC pull request with duplicated functions because the already existing functions fell out of the context window>HAHA, YOU WILL NEVER SPOT THAT THIS IS SLOP
>>108993467Funny how this concept is so easy to grasp within this context, but for some reason when it's suggested to /pol/ that banning all bankers is a more attractive premise than banning all jews, they throw a hissy fit about wanting to protect le based nigger banker or something.
>>108993448I’m sure your unemployed hello world ass has great insight into how software is written
>>108991173based, I trust it way more now
>>108993485Jeet slop is a subset of vibe slop.But kikes are not a subset of bankers.You are just playing the>but some jews are alright!!!game, and it never works. Got tried a lot, and the only longer lasting solution was always a full expulsion of kikes.
>>108991173How would they know?
>>108993502all vibe slop is jeet slopllms are the electric jeet
>>108993502No, on the contrary. What I usually advocate is to kill all bad actors, by way of directly targeting bad actors. This way, all jews will necessarily also die. But then the narrative is palatable.Just like how you can say all jeetcode is also aislop (it mostly is, but that is not actually true that all of it is) while all of it is low quality garbage (and all jeets should go back to india prior of india being nuked off the face of the earth). Yet, you decided it was OK to say that all aislop should be removed, but that it is sufficient to get rid of jeetardation. Now, in your retarded defense of your cognitive dissonance, you have just defended the likes of musk, gates, and buffet for no reason.
>every bigcorp is paying tens of millions per month for api despite all output being totally worthless>they continue paying because.. idk, (((they))) force them toai screechers are even stupider than the "zomg agi in two weeks" boosters
>>108993583Clinically retarded or just still in middle school? Definitely never employed that's for sure.
>>108993399Because flatpak is a dumb idea.
>flatpak>no pack of flat anime girls anywhereI’m glad they decided to commit sudoku with their anti-tech bullshit
>>108991719Guess why me and all Linux devs are on Windows or macos.
>>108993997Because you were paid to sabotage linux, unlike the previous generation of linux devs.
>>108991173They wont apply these rules. Most large programs on flathub have AI contributions, such as firefox, chrome, chromium, brave and steam.
I don't mind developers using AI to find bugs and vulnerabilities in their software, but I'm concerned about LLMs being used to write code considering the risks of outputting hallucinations into the code that can lead to new bugs and vulnerabilities.
>>108991173good with luck that, might as well try to dry the ocean while at it
>>108991173wow based as FUCK. this seemingly includes any applications and not just the process of making flatpak packages>>108991223fuck this guy he's retarded as fuck, no wonder he created objectively the worst web framework of all time
>>108991223Corporations stealing code, ignoring licenses, and selling it back to us for hundreds of dollars a month is so based!
>>108991296Every time I see some low IQ faggotbabble about comparing different versions of different models I get a mega-ick because as if it's all not one and the same horribly buggy hallucinating fuckass dogshit and seeing any real difference between them is pure self induced schizophrenia
>>108991173>textile artisans smashed automated looms and knitting frames because these machines devalued their craft>horse carriage drivers have consistently protested against cars to protect their livelihoods>codemonkeys try to ban AI because they are the next who are being replaced
>>108991223I have noticed that LLMs are insanely good at debugging Linux problems or helping me do complex things with Linux
>>108997079Sure if you struggle profoundly with debugging "wrong argument -e. Use --help for usage information." In which case might I suggest living in an institution so you don't forget to breathe sometimes.
welp fuck this then. I'm switching to Ubuntu because I'm not a fucking idiot who is against AI. Why would you ban AI? Free chatgpt is a better programmer than 99 percent of human beings.
>>108991223based retards>be stupid dirt eating peasant>get access to the tech equivalent of bible in english>think this magically transforms you into an elite>make catastrophically stupid decisionslove to see it
>>108991223twitter is somehow even worse than facebook and reddit
>>108997978compile errors are far less descriptive. Often what it means is you don't have the right version of a library. That means that you have to remove the existing one. And guess what, depends on your distro :^)
>>108991247an impostor, got it
>>108998682>things that never happen are far less descriptiveOh really?
>>108991297>accoladesWe aren't normalfags. These things mean nothing to us.