But without all the good things that come with iOS? What's even the point anymore? may as well get an iPhone. is google retarded or evil?
>>108995022>August 2025
>>108995022"sideloading" - otherwise known as "installing apps on your fucking phone that you bought with your own money"
>>108995022The only reason i need android is for gaming. Decided i didnt need to game on my phone so i ditched android. Iphone allows me to do my entire job efficiently through my phone and shit post on 4chan at the same time lol. I also knew that androids freedom wasnt going to last forever. Android is also buggy as fuck.
This shit is so overblown. All they did was add extra guardrails and a mandatory wait period before allowing sideloading to make it harder for your nan to get scammed on the phone by a jeet asking her to install malware.
>>108995203lmao what the fuck, how does that even make any sense? There needs to be a bypass for people who arent fucking retarded. There is a bypass which does not require 24 hours right?
I've been finding myself gravitating toward switching to iOS more and more recently. As someone who wants to get into filmmaking, I've been seeing people make short films with the camera on the iPhone 17 Pro with the ProRes codec and I'm astonished that level of quality is even possible on a phone camera.
>>108995187>Iphone allows me to do my entire job efficiently through my phonewhat is that job samir
Why doesn't google just give the FOSS nerds an Android version that works (or stop messing and breaking the AOSP version), and then give 90% of the population a curated Android with guardrails?Most people who are avoiding the Play Store are probably like 1% of Android users, so it can't be about the money.
>>108995022>So is Android going to become like iOS now?at least not yet. adb still works (which includes adb over tcp own your own device), it would be pretty funny tho if googlel would start charging developers to be allowed to build apps like applel does where a developer license is required to hit the build button in xcode
>>108995022>NOOOO theyre adding a checkbox, its literally unusable nowkys you iShill
>>108995252>Most people who are avoiding the Play Store are probably like 1% of Android users, so it can't be about the money.apps like revanced got popular enough that it got noticeable on their revenue, there's no other reason for the restrictions
>>108995230the "bypass" is called adb, but just click the checkbox
>>108995022This question doesn't mean much, Android and iOS have been merging into the exact same design for 20 years, and especially the last 8.
>>108995294The whole point of Android is an open mobile system. if it becomes like iOS it losses most of its meaning.
>>108995022But I downloaded and installed radiodroid two days ago>tfw no FM radio app with no ads or tracking anywhereI'm fairly sure my phone even supports it. I would even pay those few bucks come on.
>>108995022>EU set clear goals on what is and isn't allowed>Apple lobbied them to basically cuck users as much as possible while it's technically possible to add other app stores, but their devs still have to register in the Apple jail and pay fees>Google now wants to do the same because Apple did it successfully
>>108995301there is nothing open about phone devices
>>108995022I thank Epic for suing them and making the courts rule they should allow appstores and nothing about allowing to download random installers from the internet and installing them with a simple click.So now, since they're not forced to allow you to install random apks from a random dev, they're just slowly destroying sideloading to fit within what's legally required and not a single thing more.
>>108995335arm cpus*
>>108995251VM setup and customer troubleshooting, but mainly being on board calls and vendor requests.
>>108995252>Why doesn't Google give people an OS where all their tracking shit is easy to removeIt's a mystery
>>108995022not my problem
>>108995230The 24 hour wait IS the bypass. They want to go full Apple and lock it down entirely. You rike?
>>108996008lmao making android devices be more like iphone before google got to it.
>>108996181it sounds like adb works but thats retarded just for basic use. >>108996008this shit is a great idea but the os screws up payment apps and gooner games, you have to install a bunch of shit to hide and bypass for anything that has google checks.
>>108995203I don't support these extra guardrails but a while back euro politicans were saying they wanted to force google to remove the existing guardrail in the settings, which is utter fucking insanity for exactly the reason you mentioned
next year I'm getting motorola with grapheneOS.
>>108995022Yes, install Ubuntu touch
>>108995022>is google retarded or evilyes
>>108995045The fact that Android and IOS even hint at controlling this shit is why you should fully embrace any and all alternate mobile operating systems. Nowhere in the US can make them without built-in judaism but they can do so in China and Russia. USE THEM when they become available. Hype them up. Develop for them. Do your part you lazy faggot.
>>108995022I kinda get why though.Normal fags cannot be trusted to download shit.
>>108996558Then educate them.This was never an issue in the past. If people got infected with malware, they learned better. If they were beyond teaching, they just had to deal with the consequences, hopefully eventually they'd get sick of paying the stupid tax and do better.
>>108995301>The whole point of Android is an open mobile systemno, the point of android is to serve google purposes. do you know how much money Samsung is paying google every years just for android? billions.
>>108995045If you read the agreement you are just agreeing to use a license that can be revoked at any time since you are now locked into it.
>>108995252Because clearly there is a ton of terrorists using these phones to play candy crush unregulated or some shit
>>108996661>Then educate themEver try to educate brown ppl?
>>108995252Because states wouldn't allow it
>>108996692>picI've never seen such a feminine man
>>108996008>just fail (((play integrity))) checks brohave fun getting locked out of>government services>financial and banking applications, including digital wallets>any websites that make use of the new recaptcha that requires (((remote attestation)))>paid applications>e-commerce applications>anything with microtransactions>anything with a subscription>media streaming and video game applications
>>108997040>said the street shitting iGoy
Good. I think makers of phone OS' should be making it abundantly clear that their devices aren't actually meant to be real replacements for proper PCs that don't have to deal with these restrictions because for some reason retards out there still haven't gotten the memo.
>>108997040I don't care about any of those
>>108997417>that don't actually have to deal with any restrictionsStates aren't going to stop clamping down, no you can't just run to the next thing, those days are over.
>>108997040sounds like you can be free from botnet with lineage. but i know, i know, freedom is not a npc thing.
>>108995252Bootloader is locked on mine. Fat chance.
>>108995022>Saar its over>Saar look google has do the blocking
>>108995203only browntards can say this without a hint of irony. they only have the mental capacity to consider single order practicality and nothing more. they only have the financial capacity to afford android to not see how easy it actually is to sideload on modern ios. keywords: iloader and livecontainer+sidestore
>>108997831get a toilet currynigger
>>108997875seething google simp
>>108997417>yes fuck me harder corpo daddy, don't let me own my devicessharty lost
>>108995203i just wish you death. go die.
>>108997875iphones do have sideloading while google is killing it
>>108999520**if you jailbreak
Someone should make a simple phone os: calls, SMS, contacts. Fast, responsive is, tactile keyboard, small screen. I wonder if this is possible
>>109000221>calls, SMS, contactsthen you get raped by jewish carrier international roaming fees>you'd need to throw IM and VoIP into the mix>and email because everyone uses that>and payment methods as well, because cuntries are hellbent on deprecating cash>and document viewing and editing functionality>and photo scanning and photo editing functionality so you can prepare attachments>and a photo viewer and media players so you can look at attachments>and web browsing so you can do shit like book a table at a restaurant or book a plane ticketand suddenly you have a smartphone
>>108996793>If they were beyond teaching, they just had to deal with the consequencesYou can't help everyone, the bottom tier is always going to find some way to infect themselves. If you make something "foolproof", you'll just find a bigger fool.
>>108999550If you have an IQ in the double to triple digit range you just compile whatever you want yourself, sign and load it.
>>108997040You can still go outside and cut down the transmission towers with an angle grinder. Can't have remote attestation of there is no electricity anymore.
>>108999550no, *if you don't live in the third world
>>108995045rented* with the banks* money
>>109001027Nobody is taking out loans to buy a phone, schizo ass nigga.
>>109001039The OS and services are granted to you under a EULA—you don't own it. It's Google's OS and Google's marketplace—they can do what they want: if you don't like it then make your own.
>>108996544Is graphene pozzed now or something?ALSo has anyone tried using a 'fair phone' (british phone claiming to have removable battery)?
>>108996466No matter the specs? If it comes with a Snapdragon 8 Elite that'll be fire
>>108997040zoomers talk about detoxing from tech. if any of this was removed from your life, you will only live to see the good sides of tech - literally no more toxic video games, toxic apps, government spyware, bank spyware.
>>109002385NTA but banks around here are closing their service locations rapidly while only having open like 3 hours in the middle of the workday in which you have to queue if you can't use their apps (restrictions apply to what you can do if you use their website instead). Also, the methods of logging in are limited to BankID and they are phasing out card reader types of login. If you can't use their app and get a new phone you have to get to a bank office and request leave from work to make a new login license with a passport. The few ways you can jump through hoops to get anything done for your finances besides apps are closing fast and will not be seen as freedom from bank spyware once they are gone. You'll simply be shit out of luck instead.I'm not saying this is good but living without government and banking apps will be impossible around here soon. Oh and cash is basically considered tainted currency so don't imagine you can use that instead.
>>109002385>want passport, can't get passport>want to chat with group of friends, whatsapp refuses to work>want to do anything with bank account (transfer, check balance, pay), can't do it because banking apps won't work>want to pay for something, can't pay because cash isn't accepted, either bank transfer or debit>need to use stupid campus app, it won't work>want to buy something online, can't do it>want to get an uber, can't do it>want to book a hotel room or bnb, can't do itand it's only gonna get worse
>>108995381so, call support?
>>109002477>>109002531ok, hear me out: second dumb phone - a phone that is smart, but low price but good enough for the task of using those shits - you will only use it a form of a digital tocken for banks and governments. as it has the task of running 2 apps, it can have low requriments - like so what if it has 2 gb of ram and 32 gb of memory and a processor that even an incel celeron can beat - can it load a bank app? yes? then even if it is second hand, 5 years old model, with brokne screen it still can be used. you also get to mainstain a main phone.
>>108995022Do one click rooting apps like Kingroot still exist for phones that didn't have XDA community support?
>>108995022Just use an iPhone
>>108995022buy cheapest, they cant afford google store license so it unlocked
>>109002531>>want to chat with group of friends, whatsapp refuses to workIndian problem, all my friends are on Telegram that doesn't require GMS
>>108995022apple literally now allows side loading signed by you apps for free in europe, but im sure you dont even know this, europe forced apple to accept other made applications, and you can install like android apps they get virtualized container inside the iphone, but again we in america get none of them
>>109003200>hahaha, you're a moron for relying on [vendor1]'s walled garden instead of [vendor2]'smorons like you should be drownedback in the day you could log in from the XMPP client of your choice and things would just work. no need to shackle yourself with shitty apps controlled by a money-grubbing multi-trillion dollar corporation
>>109003307nigger Telegram was just an example of a service that doesn't rely on GMSI'm pretty sure Signal, Dicksword and others can also function with no GMSWho the fuck even uses WhatsApp?
>>109002556Network admin but the network is perfect so we are moving to vms because its much more efficient to fire people and automate processes. Yes i get alot of calls and ill get another raise because the help i do have is worthless.
>>109003656>ワヤ、凵ム己 ワロ门ナ 山口ヤ、ケ>waya, ukebako mu onore warokadona yamaguchiya, kethe fuck does this mean
>>109003811>enable developer mode>enable install apps from unknown sources>suddenly 80% of your apps, including the ones that you use for work and accessing your money, stop working (note: the remaining 20% that work are the stock ones like the dialer and messages)wow, you've totally broken free from under google's thumb, way to go. you totally showed them what for
>>108995268>checkboxApparently it's going to be a thing in developer options, you click it, click through several dire warnings, wait 24 hours, click through several more dire warnings, and then you're finally permitted to turn it on.Checkbox is fine, a warning when checking it is fine, but this is a little bit excessive.
>>109003838>suddenly 80% of your apps, including the ones that you use for work and accessing your money, stop workingWhat apps? My bank, PayPal, Cashapp, the banks of everybody I know, all don't care about developer options being on, and also don't seem to care about lack of strong integrity. My phone has basic integrity and everything just seems to work.As far as I can see you're more likely to get problems from a gacha game than a bank.
>>109003181>>109003181>>109003181this
>>109003838imagine having only one phone
>>108996692This is you, the /g/ Apple spammer >>108925687
>>109003237Same for everywhere else.
>>109005881>sideloadwhy the fuck do these faggots call installing software "sideloading" like it were some sort of illegal activity like drug dealing? fucking mouthbreathers
>>108995022>now
