Will the Chrome pedophiles finally swap to a better fork this time? Or will they still stay with Chrome and pretend that uBO Lite is as good (it's not, it's even worse than Brave's default AdBlocker, you cannot even update filters until the addon gets updated itself)?
idc bruh. we firefox in this crib. fr cuh on mud
>>108998580I didn't want to mention FF/Gecko because it makes the small minority of Brave users start a meltdown in every thread for 0 reason.
>>108998557just use brave
>>108998557Just don't update the browser.>you cannot even update filters until the addon gets updated itselfSo? Browser extensions usually auto-update by default.
>>108998600brave doesn't have ublock either.ublock blocks much more than ads, it blocks paywalls, popups, cookie banners and you can filter out attention grabbing elements
>>108998557They will switch to a flavor of Chromium and feel superior again.Either way, Google wins.
>>108998770Check again. It's right there in settings.
Why aren't you using Firefox already?
>>108999442i used to, about a decade agodont even remember why i switched to chrome in the first placeafter this i might move back
>>108998580Fucking based.
>>108999442Troonfox transitioned into another design twice since Google started this MV3 bullshit
>>108999442im not a tranny
>>108999466Also I just read about FF working on a native ad blocker so yeah MV2 is going away too
>>108999510ye they are workingon their own ad blocker and I am really curious if they are trying to say with this one that they are killing MV2 withouot making people mad or even without people understanding that.
Sounds like all the Chromium based browsers like Brave and Vivaldi are gonna start doing their own patches maintaining MV2 support as well as offering a unified way to auto-update them in the near future.
>>108999442I switched when the tranny infestation was too much to bear. They committed suicide after chrome came on the scene. Good riddance.
>>108999442Google 'Firefox Nova Redesign' and you will know why. I gave Firefox way too many chances, I cba anymore with them and their random transgenderism designs that just fuck upp all your configurations (the main thing that people use FF for).
>>108999425MV2 being deprecated in chrome means that all chromium browsers will soon need to phase it out.No fork has the resources to maintain MV2, especially after google starts removing MV2 compatibility code from chromium (happening soon).Therefore, unless you trust a team of a few dozen people to go against a team of thousands of engineers that will do all they can to remove old MV2 code and stop accepting patches/fixes/bug reports for it
I have a bad feeling that this is exactly what they're doing. I'm so tired of the ff devs man.
>>108999527Firefox can't maintain MV2, they don't have the human/financial resources for that. Just like web standards are decided by google/chromium.Firefox is just 'another implementation of chromium' at this point (and so are all browsers). Even safari, which is backed by a $Tn company doesn't have the strength to go against chromium.Tomorrow, if chrome decides to deprecate a codec, add a new css attribute or support a new major js api, then site owners are the first to follow. And soon all browsers need to get compatible with the latest chromium changes.WebRTC is prime example of that. It's so difficult to properly implement that you must switch to chromium if you need it for work (teams/zoom/google meet requires it). Building an alternative to google's extension manifest takes a lot of R&D and requires an extensive team to maintain, test and qa.Essentially google decides what IS the web.
>>108998557this is gonna affect Helium, isn't itfucking hell
>>108998580krome niggas on suicide watch after this one :wilted_rose: :skull:
>>108999647>Firefox can't maintain MV2, they don't have the human/financial resources for that. Just like web standards are decided by google/chromium.mozilla are such shitter, have no manpower for MV2 but shift almost all the manpower to a fucking widget lmao
>>108999650Opera/GX dropped uBO already, Brave will as well once this gets hard-pushed, Vivaldi will follow.Helium is made by like 2 dudes, no? No way they maintain MV2 by themselves.I don't think it's that dark, though, Firefox is working on integrating Brave's AdBlocker, the rest can do the same, just hopefully they expand on it so it becomes close to uBO.
>>108999707brave is using chromium so their ad blocker will be like ublock lite, a stripped down blocker too because of MV3
UBOL is just as good as UBO and anyone saying otherwise was infected by Gorhill propaganda.It's understandable that Gorhill is upset because Google forced him to rewrite all his code but the reality is that UBOL is just as good as the original version. So as a user there is no reason to complain.
>>10899972150/50, Brave's AdBlocker can be updated whenever and custom filterlists added whenever, you can also add as many filterlists as you want.uBO Lite has to wait for an addon update to be pushed in order for it's filterlists to properly update, so Brave is better in that regard.
>>108999690I went to a talk by mozilla CTO, they have competent people, just not enough to compete against chrome.Also google owns the web. It's very easy for them to roll out a feature and instantly use it on their websites, which forces people to use chrome.Also, chromium is much faster than firefox. Especially for javascript, because they have the world's leading experts and can afford to pay them ridiculous salaries to prevent them from signing up with the competition
>>108999725You literally cannot properly update filterlists on Lite until the addon itself is updated, so if YT breaks you have to wait in the dark while uBO just purges cache > update.
>>108999725It's crap. It barely blocks youtube ads. Also UBo has cosmetic filters that block annoying elements on websites, like this site's scammy adverts
>>108999745>You literally cannot properly update filterlists on Lite until the addon itself is updatedSo? Before I had to manually update the filter lists, now I just have to manually update the addon instead.This is also a moot point because both the filter lists in the old version and the addon itself in the new version can be configured to auto-updoot as well.>>108999746Werks on my machine. Never seen an ad on JewTube and never seen an ad on 4chan either.
so firefox will be ded for me soon, the only reason using it for me was uBlock, when they introduce their own ad blocker I am 100% sure they will kill uBlock and/or MV2.there's no reason to use it anymore then, RIP lil fox
>>108999736No, they absolutely don't have competent people lmao
>>108999661fact nga
Isn't the problem with MV3 that it limits list sizes? Why can't forks simply change the number to something very large?I get that it would be off-standard, but can't uBlock just require that you have a browser with that off-standard? Keeping adblocking working in Chrome long term is a pointless task.
>>108999854No, the problem is you're no longer allowed to halt requests, analyse them, and then modify them.
>>108999746V3 UBlock doesn't have custom filters?
>>108999854Nope, with manifest v3, you can no longer filter content they way you used to be able to in mv2.You now have to use this api:https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/declarativeNetRequestwhich makes it harder to write rules and greatly limits what you can block, on top of that they impose a limit on the number of rules.The limit on chromium is 30000 static rules and 5000 dynamic rules.But that's not all, for instance rules with regex are limited to only 1000.But yes, theoretically, forks could remove these artificial limits
>>108999887You're much more limited. chromium has a limit on the number of rules, and ublock already has way more rules than the limit. That means you are no longer able to define as many rules as before, and your rules may prevent dynamic rules natively in the blocklist from being used
>>1089995901 dedicated sperg + ClaudeThat's all that's needed to reverse Google's stranglehold on browsers and start maintaining an alternate fork.
>>108999917this is literally 1984, i use that feature a lotwebsites nowadays are fucking shit and its not even about the ads, id be willing to have sidebar ads if it meant supporting the websites but it's fucking popups all over the place, vertically placed ads that make me scroll more, retarded banners that reset whenever you open the site again, a bunch of useless empty space, retarded social media buttons etc etc etcdamn
>>108999936That cannot work. You'd need to retrofit all commits made to chromium to work on your fork. That's literally why all chromium based browser are just reskins + a few features that do not interfere with the codebase.Also that would probably fail the ci/cd pipeline and be a vulnerability gold mine
>>108998557>using chrome>>108998600>using brave>>108998745>just don't update the browserI thought /vr/ and /pol/ were the dumbest boards but once again /g/ takes the crown.
>>108999999Unfathomably based sextuples of truth witnessed
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>>108999999oh shit, I was here
>>109000080Me too brother. Me too.
>>108999999>muh updatesYour OS should be built with the assumption that any app your run is malicious. That's exactly how Android, Flatpak/Linux, iOS and Qubes work. Updating your browser is not necessary for "muh security" since the software you run is mostly sandboxed by your OS. Most people don't even get malware, they're scammed through social engineering.Updooting is a meme unless we're talking OS-level security updates.
>>108999936>nocoders still lap up the meme that claude gives you anything but bugs and bullshitlollmao
>>108999999Digits of truth. Put me in the screencap.
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So much for open source
>>108999936You're retarded. You have such a small mind that you're unable to see how retarded you're coming across.
>>109000849>open source = developers need to cater to all my demandsMake your own browser.
>>108999721wronghttps://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
>>109001248shields is trash, though, also easy to detect and some sites use that to ban brave users (notably lobste.rs, not that there's anything worth reading on that shithole)
>>108999899>greatly limits what you can block, on top of that they impose a limit on the number of rules.Been using uBlock Lite for many months now, and the only ads i ever remember seeing was the few times Google decided to brick adblocker for a short while.
>>108999721https://github.com/brave/adblock-rustIt doesn't use any manifest apis, why the fuck you lying nigga?
So what's the solution here fellas? I'm scared and I refuse to use firefox.
>>109001322You have a lot of options.- keep using Chrome with uBO Lite- swap to Brave & debloat it using Winutil if on Windows- swap to Brave Origin if on Linux- swap to Waterfox OR Librewolf OR Zen- swap to Vivaldi as they will add Brave's AdBlocker eventually- swap to Helium as it will do the same as Vivaldi
>>109001322>>109001343I just went back to Chrome, at least it has a better engine while Firefox is adding more and more slop but fixing the engine etc.
>>108998557Not my problem.
>>108999647>Firefox can't maintain MV2, they don't have the human/financial resources for that.Firefox isn't built on top of Chromium. They are already maintaining their own MV2 implementation.
>>109001099>>109000849
>>109001248Have you ever used Brave Shield as your only adblocker? It doesn't block a lot of things that uBlock Origin blocks and it doesn't have nearly as good anti-anti-adblock measures.>>109001322Either don't update or use Firefox. There is no other option if you want uBlock Origin.
>>109001385That's cool homie but Chrome is not the only web browser using Chromium. But I guess you made the post just to randomly shit talk something you don't even use.
>>108999647>WebRTC is prime example of that. It's so difficult to properly implement that you must switch to chromium if you need it for work (teams/zoom/google meet requires it)Most of the WebRTC issues are actually not because it's difficult to properly implement, but because Teams, Meet, etc. only cared to compatibility-check for Chromium browsers and are doing things that *work* in those browsers, but aren't entirely spec-compliant - or they rely on bleeding edge latest-version additions that are still under origin trial and weren't even formally standardized.As Mat Marquis so eloquently put:> Google participates in the web standards process the way a bear participates in the “camping” process.
>>108999583>transgenderism designs
>>109001415Yeah, google doesn't care about 'specs'. Whatever they do becomes the new spec everyone has to follow.That's like if there was 1 massive car company that owned most of the roads and made it as hard as possible for other cars to drive on their roads
>>108998557I use LibreWolf so this doesn't affect me doe
>>108999442Funny way of saying De-Pozzillaed Waterfox.
>>109001343does helium/brave support ubo?
>>109000849The www is cancer. we need to return to IE8.
>>109001529For now, yeah.
Still using Ungoogled Chromium
