seems like all the good ones are comically oversized and the normal sized ones are either shit or last a day tops (or both)
>>108998801hell naw nga this a casio board gang on cuh g
Amazfit Active 3
>>108998801What do you consider comically oversized? Garmin makes smaller forerunners that still last a week.
>>108998801I just use a random smartband (mi band 8 pro)Battery life 10 days and does everything I need
>>108998801I use an Apple watch for about 4 years now, but more and more I’m wearing my old casio’s or regular analogue watches. I’m really not sure what the purpose of a smart watch is supposed to be, except if you’re into running, swimming or cycling (literally only those three). It’s annoying to charge, it distracts you, it’s ugly (goes for all smart watches) and wearing one makes me feel like a drone/tech cuck. But at the same time the data is addictive and “fun”. So yeah Im still on the fence. The only smart watch function I like is the alarm/timer/quick calendar check and answering incoming calls so you don’t have to baby your phone.
>>108998801"Smartwatches" are gay, but what used to be considered "GPS watches" are great and I regret not buying one sooner. I use a coros pace 4 and it fits my current needs well. Small/light, long battery life, gives me the data I actually use (pace/hr). I could see moving up to a bigger higher-spec watch if you're running ultras or something and want phone-less nav/music/payments while roooning, but 90% of the benefit is just being able to look at your HR/pace/distance and having the watch keep track of whatever convoluted interval session you're doing that day which all of them can do.
>>108998801Garmin Forerunner 165.Was forced off of Fitbit ecosystem since it's gay and dead now.It's fine, no major complaints, wouldn't spend much money on these things since they're all disposable anyways with the non replaceable battery and screen burn in.
>>108999301Thats a smartwatch
Garmin is cool but a bit priceyI only wear mine (Forerunner 245) when I'm doing sportsI like the MIP display, I don't like that newer Garmins all have OLED panelsI don't think it's very fashionable so I don't wear it when I'm not exercising
something like a Venu 4 is better looking though, also made from metal instead of plasticI'd get it over an Apple Watch any day, but as of now I see no reason to switch from my Forerunner 245
Still using my Galaxy Watch 5 Pro.i wouldn't take it camping but it does both tracking and notification management well. It's great not having to take your phone out all the time
>>108998801I would have been interested until I found out they don't make ones without (((health tracking)))
>>108998801 I have one (Huawei) but I fucking hate it. It can't do anything at all without connecting to a smartphone for help, not even keep time. I want a genuinely smart smartwatch, one that's an autonomous unit and doesn't need anything outside itself to function.
Why the fuck is only pebble using eink?Why can't there be a Garmin one?
I use a neptune pine
Picrel is my daily driver because im not a faglord
>>108998801I have a Forerunner 245 and a green G-Shock GBD-200. I like both of them but Casio is Casio
Forerunner 245 has been pretty good to me.It's just a shame that optical heart rate senors suck so you need a chest strap as well if you wanna do intervals based on heart rate
Garmin instinct 3 is currently the best compromise in my opinion. Battery lasts infinitely, if you are outdoors enough. No touch screen = no problems with rain. Always on mips display. Only downside no color and only dots map. The pic related tactical version looks a bit cooler, but costs a bit too much. But it's really a hidden gem, I personally prefer it over any other Garmin, including Fenex 8. Also it doesn't look ridiculous on my arm, size wise.
>>109002731The Instinct E is $200 rn as well, if you don't need a certain host of features that, if mattered to someone, they would likely just get the Instinct 3.
>>109001107Pebbles aren't e-ink, they have always been "e-paper".Memory in Pixel LCD with a transflective coating, pretty much the same display tech as the MIP Garmin's (except these ones are a decade old).
>>108998801no
I always wondered how much would these fitness trackers changed my life as a non-runner. Every feature seems like you need to dedicate your entire life to some cardio heavy sport else your arbitrary score drops and you will feel bad.
>>109004977it's just a watch otherwise. If you don't want to track fitness activities, a smartwatch is a gimmick imo and you'd better just get a plain watch. Cheaper, looks better, battery lasts way longer.
I use a smartband as a watch>turn off all health exercise shit>Turn on always on display>read text messages on display>vibrates and displays notificationsBattery life of about a week with the display on 12 hours a day.
>constantly charging your watch>smartlol
>>109002731This. I have the Instinct 2s, which is close enough. Great battery life, rugged design, does its fitness watch tasks as expected, ain't huge and overall looks restrained. If I ever manage to run this current watch down, maybe I'll try a tactical version next time.My previous smartwatch back in the day was Venu 2, which was kind of a gimmicky piece of shit with a meager 3'ish day battery life. That shit ain't cutting it, constant recharging is a pain in the ass. Size was okay, but it looked like a toy which was another minus.
>>109002731Interesting. What do you mean by dots map?>tactical versionI've seen these tactical garmin watches and they have ridiculous price markups over the normal ones, what the fuck do they even add
i got a venu x1 a few weeks ago, its really comfortable despite the size because its thin, the only downside with it is the HRM is quite inconsistent, sometimes shooting up really high when im riding, im 34 and i think if my heart was going at 224 id be on the floor
>>109005709oh apparently they call it breadcrumb navigation. It's just a very simply map without any topography or anything really. I personally don't even get the point at all, maybe some people can make something out of it. It's not a big deal in my opinion, because I do carry my phone with me anyways and I have a much better screen and much better maps there. Idk how much you could even get out from the proper map like on the fenix, because I highly doubt that they have very accurate local topography anyways. So I doubt I would ever plan a route on the Garmin app anyways. But just worth mentioning, this is a major feature that is missing compared to the "better" watches.>>109005159yeah I'm also planning to get my next one as tactical. I use the watch 24 and I'm super happy with it and what it does. In comparison before I had a Sunnto 9 Baro, which I barely even used only on bigger longer hikes and such. But it looked dumb and was uncomfortable and way too big. Also features and software wise it sucked compared to Garmin.
>>109005709oh and sorry forgot to say, the tactical version is just a gimmick. It has a function to turn off all signals to be more stealth, like when you are on a military mission or whatever. Anyways the main feature and why people might want it, it's because it's all black, while the other version has these orange parts. Personally I think the all black looks cooler and paying 150$ more for that is silly, but I'm still going to do it with my next one (if it's still the same deal).
>>108998801>Use smart watch >Willingly send medical and health related data to companies to be sold to anyone with money>Brags about itWhy are normal cattle NPCs like this?
>>109007328Hm. That's kinda meh - navigating by watch, potentially without a phone at all, would've been pretty cool. That monochrome display should absolutely be capable of displaying simple topography or existing pathways and roads, so it's a shame that they just gave up and didn't do it apparently. What's the point of even having GPS on your watch if the map is basically useless?>>109007342>I think the all black looks cooler and paying 150$ more for that is silly, but I'm still going to do it with my next oneCan't you just dab some black paint on top of the orange parts, surely there's some silicon paint/dye that would hold up well>>109007406Most smartwatches don't have WWAN capability, anon.If you use some closed source app on your phone that sends all your data to random companies on the internet, that's entirely a (You) problem for anyone that does this.
>>109007342>Anyways the main feature and why people might want it, it's because it's all black, while the other version has these orange parts.Looks like you never read the description of the tactical edition. The screen is supposed to be readable with nightvision goggles on. Also you can delete all your data with a quick shortcut if you ever get captured. I have the Instinct 2 non-tactical and it has zero orange anywhere, so it wasn't just the tactical edition that's all gray. There are other reasons why it's tactical.
>>109007411there is no technical reason the map doesn't have topography, it's just to upsell you on the more expensive watches. The GPS is still useful, it helps other sensors with accuracy and you can still watch on the app where you went after. Idk how useful a tiny map on a watch really would be, but ofc it's also annoying they didn't just put it in.>>109007681sure but seriously who cares and I don't think the display is technically different. Maybe they added some kind of foil on top that helps with nightvision, but who even cares. I don't think you should use a Garmin when going to war, unless it's officially ordered and recommended by your countries military. It's clearly just a marketing stunt.
Do the various metrics help with lifting?I can imagine it's good for endurance stuff, not max power at very short intervals.
>>109008926>you can still watch on the app where you went after.True, I guess, it's nice to keep track. It just feels like a very niche usecase that you might go outside without your phone, and without a map (or needing one), but wanting to track your path. If I'm going hiking somewhere unfamiliar I'll probably want a map and given this I'll probably need my phone and so I can just track my path on my phone in the first place.>Idk how useful a tiny map on a watch really would beI think even just drawing the surrounding path/road network, and being able to see nearby place names, would be massively useful unless you're in far wilderness (in which case buying a more expensive watch is fair).Oh well, I think I'm preaching to the choir here anyway.>it's just to upsell you on the more expensive watches. The thing is are there any others that are also not gigantic, also have very long or unlimited battery with solar, and always on MIP display?Honestly frankly I wouldn't be opposed to spending more if I also got shit like an actual map, and maybe even garmin pay if that shit's available, but without compromising on bulk and battery life and display tech.Now that I think about it a touchscreen is probably kinda necessary to browse a "proper" map on a screen like that, to make it useful enough for standalone navigation. Maybe that's why the 3 didn't bother.
>>108998801I did for awhile, but the only thing I really liked for it's convenience was having my wrist vibrate a little when I got a notification instead of an actual ringer noise. Not really worth the constant self reminder to charge it. Back to basic Casio for me, might try modding it since I've read there's a scene for it .
>>109009049I think fenix 9 is about to get out, so maybe a good time to also get a good deal on an older fenix. In any case I think the smaller fenixes are decent too, I think I half way remember that the 7 even has better battery because it still had a mips display? And don't worry too much, if you at least get a week or so out of it it shouldn't be too much of a bother to charge. Just buy one of the smaller ones, if you really think that proper maps are that important. In the end I bet you will barely even use them, but I understand how you feel
I got a Samsung watch mainly for health stuff. It's convenient so far given my health issues.
I have a Fitbit inspire 3 but I'm going to sell it because I switched to GrapheneOS. I just want a watch with a pedometer that has a really long battery, any suggestions?
i have a casio gbx100tt it’s technically a smart watch i guess. it has bluetooth and i get notifications when i get a text or an email and it has a step counter and tracks the tides and moon phases and sunrise and sunset and has a stopwatch. the battery has lasted over a year would buy again
>>109012662forgot image
>>108998801no.freedom is not having to know the time or day of the week.
>>109008981No. No person on planet Earth has ever bought one of these meme devices and then used the actual data to meaningfully increase the efficiency or quality of their lifting.>"Man, it looks like I woke up three times last night and I didn't even realize it, I'm going to fix this so that my lifts go up"Nobody ever>"I walked 3,252 extra steps today. This will help me hit a new PR"Nobody ever>"My heart rate is a little high, If I get this down, surely I'll be able to do better cardio"Nobody everThese products are utterly useless for 100% of people, even for people who use the primary functions, like GPS tracking or cadence for runners or cyclists. The marketing and appeal of these devices is predicated on the nebulous aspect of numbers, and the fallacious impression that people get that when they have more data their lives improve or they can actually act on it. Say for example you're a runner and you've been running for five years and suddenly you get a GPS tracker watch that shows you the distance that you ran as well as where you did and the calories you burned. You've literally been doing that for 10 years. The only difference in how is that you spent $400 on a watch that you have to charge every night that just tells you that you did what you already know that you've been doing.Don't be memed into buying "shiny new thing" because other people have it. It's utterly useless.
>>109012906I think for running and stuff it’s nice to see at a quick glance your heart rate zone, distance covered and pace. I also think it’s fun to check the route after a long hike or go back to it later to maybe do a different one. In terms of other sports, the only usecase I have for it, is to keep track of trends. So if I’ve been slacking without noticing the last few weeks… of course, all this can be done without the watch, but the thing just bundles is all together. Perhaps you think it’s all bullshit for a casual sports player, and you’re also not wrong there. But at least the gamification and the “witness me” element of the thing does incentivise me to try to do a bit better each time. Smartwatch stuff is still a bit gimmicky as well. Allthough I like skipping ads on podcasts and setting timers easily. Notifications are shit and should be banned in general.
>>108998801I am somewhat of a NEET and thus have time to do 14 - 28 hours of sports a week.(Sadly) I bought a Garmin Epix (Gen 2, duh) 3 years ago.Luckily I live in Germany and get it replaced every 6 -12 months because the back button stops working. The (very) nice side effect is, that I always get a nice battery upgrade / reset guaranteeing a long runtime for the OLED display.I hate Garmin, I would prefere Polar (only non-conglomerate and non-Chinese owned (European) company), but Garmin ist de-facto the best in the segment outdoor sports, by a long shot.Only Coros could compete, but is a heavy ass fucking clunky shit, the top model that is.If there were (OS/FOSS) "smart" sunglasses, that can run 16 hours comfortably (yes, 100 km on foot take me at least this long, c.f. "Meraner Höhenweg"), then I would switch.Watches aren't here to stay, so I hope.Sleep tracking sux - I have regularly 95+ scores, 100 multiple times a month, but I am certainly not sleeping perfectly.HR over the day is of no interest (to me).Steps a day is for fat people who suffer from lack of exercise and movement.Smartwatches.... I dunno. Many wear them but most seem to not use them to their extend over a classical analogue watch.I am egocentric, yes.
>>109013719So add on this and not only shit all over watches:Tracking: NiceRouting: Hell motherfucking yeah. Even in the Alps, if you start getting into more serious mountaineering, it is super convenient.Pace, vert and other performative stats: Honestly it should be w/e, since I am not a pro and in for the journey, not the destination (fuck, again I did not die and got home safely).Only heartrate (and for cyclist power) is good to guesstimate, if one will overshoot on his or her journey and blow their doors out.ALso for strength training, while reps are rarely counted correctly, soley for the order of exercises, rests and the respective weights, set and rep counts are worth it already. Takes a lot of thinking (lol, who need this shit anyway anymore) out of the game, especially when it is HIIT or otherwise quite intense.Music: Some love it, I dislike it somewhat. It drains battery and ffs. in the mountains with (loud?! noise cancelling tech?!) earphones? I have seen too many near accidents and actual accidents because of this shit. People really cannot do cardio without any form of external distraction anymore.Is what I am saying while running with a watch on my wrist and looking up my next turn to take.
