Does anyone here care about Headphones? Anyways I want to upgrade these at around a same budget, I've heard the AKG K702 would do because they have an even wider soundstage and better imagingDo they need an amp?
earbuds sound better and they don't ruin your hair or dent your head. if you want wide soundstage openback earbuds for gaming just get flatheads
I thought hpg was dead
i just ordered some M50X and now i am reading everyone says i got memed :( i just wanted something fairly priced and passed teh test of time. i dont want to wear these in public and everyone laughs at me saying im a redditor :(
>>109001703can you give me some suggestions abt wireless one> not made in china> not sound like total shit> extremly durable> under 110USD> enough battery
>>109001703obsoleted by IEMs and speakers
>>109001933Those are decent, fuck the overly particular reddit haters that think they know everything but are just confused
>>109003873I never liked iems I listen to almost all speakers because headphones annoy me
>>109003873"IEM" is basically a kike scam for zoomers - what it means is "ludicrously overpriced in-ear headphones". They are NEVER worth the price and many cheap in-ear headphones outclass them
Man I love the X2HRs, but the input jack is completely fucked on mine. Static central.
Man I just can't get into open backs they sound so wrong
>>109001703Headphones make you bald.
Gentlemen, should I get the slav Verum 2s or the chink hifiman ananda nanos?
>>109005993bro what is this it looks like something out of a shisha bar
>>109003868Sony WH-CH720NSennheiser Accentum Wireless
>>109003868>wireless one>not sound like total shitBro...
>>109006064That version does look retarded lmao. Luckily there's a regular all black version that's not as ugly
wore my Superlux HD681EVOs one night while high, ended up getting a massive earwax blockage that i was able to resolve by putting drops of hydrogen peroxide and then draining.does anyone else have these occasional problems of your whole ear getting fucked cuz of earwax?
>>109005014Your own fault for buying overpriced brands. No need to project.
>Do they need an amp?people still say shit like this?
>>1090017038
>>109006415Because they're wondering if they need an amp
>>109001703>Does anyone here care about Headphones?Given how we had a general for them, /hpg/, and it's been dead for weeks, I don't think anyone does anymore.
>>109006825if my headphones dont just plug into the back of my computer and work then they are are a worthless piece of junk. Who is convincing themselves they need a "amp" to listen to Spotify music.
>>109001703>Does anyone here care about Headphones?I used to but then you figure out that 90% of them are the same shit past ~$130 range, now I just re-buy HD560S and HD599 whenever they die.>Do they need an amp?AMP/DAC makes even the worst piece of trash better, so maybe? Depends on if you give a shit.
>>109001876>tinnitusbuds>better
>>109001876>earbuds sound betterdidn't knew they change the autism slogan
>>109006956don't know about an amp specifically, but i fucking love my USB mixing console and couldn't go back to onboard audio.
>Gaming headphones are just a cheap 2-in-1. Good ones exist but if you have the money just buy>Monitorsinstead. Senheiser 599s are like $100 and will btfo basically anything else for the price except a few other monitors that have different curves. Expensive monitors will never be replaced if you shell out for them. Pair this with a semi-decent microphone and XLR input like a Focusrite Solo and a Rode Podmic and things will sound better for you, and you will sound better than 99% of other setups. The only reason you would not do this is if you want>Wireless HeadphonesWhich have their usecase (kek) and if you're willing to deal with a battery and trade off some latency they're a good choice, but won't sound as good as true monitors. Or perhaps you're more of an earphone guy so you get>IEMsWhich are autist-grade, but undeniably good for their form-factor. Will destroy any other class of earphones but you need to tolerate the wires.>Wireless earphonesare for working out or being highly mobile without giving a fuck about total sound quality. That's about it.As for your recomendation OP, the HD 599s are decent but a bit flat. I had great success in applying a slight EQ and getting great results. Otherwise pony up for HD 600s or HD 650s and never buy headphones again.
>>109001703>Do they need an amp?how is this still a question in 2026? no. a $10 dongle dac is enough
I'm absolutely in love with the brutal look of DT150 and I don't care what anyone thinks
IEMs are uncomfortable as fuckI don't understand people shoving shit inside their ear canals for long periods of time having to adjust them in a very specific way unless they use bullet IEMs which fall down all the time. I'd rather get gamer dent than whatever shit I could end up getting from fiddling with these
>>109007694majority of people have normal ears or know to buy tips that fit, so this is not an issue
>>109005014but the peak iem always goes for less than 5 dollars on aliexpress?
For me? It’s ribbons
based ribbon enjoyer.also reminder that you dont have to spend too much to enjoy ribbons
Peerlessslop status?
>>109001703>AKG K702It's 62ohm impedance so most sources should be able to drive it.
>>109010452Just impedance never tells you the whole story, but at 91dB/mW or 105dB/V they're fairly efficient so most sources should be able to get them pretty loud.
i just use speakers, headphones aren't comfy listening all day but I can listen to some decent desktop speakers all day
>>109007225bretty much this, I got hd600s a few years ago and never felt like I needed another headphone can be driven from a cheap dongle though I'm extra autistic and have a more proper amp for it
Bought an open box pair of HD 560s at Best Buy for $40.Had $25 apology store credit from them fucking up previous purchases, so out of pocket was just $15+tip.
>>109001889it is dead there's just lots more fashion and autism around IEMs boring ass headphones couldn't compete
I got Sundaras for 50€ by buying broken and reflowing themGod bless for chifiman QC, and the average normies's inability to operate a soldering iron!
>>109001703got dt770's and theyre pretty goodi would upgrade to audio techinca r70-xa's but my surroundings are too loud
>>109012058I snagged AD900Xs off Fleabay for $40 because the cable had a break in it near the jackTook minutes of soldering to fix
>>109012021it's crazy to me that this is what appeals to peopleit's the same exact kind of shit in /mkg/ nowadays, i can't fucking handle it
>>109003868>not made in chinawho the fuck are you kidding retardEVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN is made in china, even western and nip brandsESPECIALLY consumer garbage like "wireless"the only headphones not made in china are both WIRED and WAY above your puny "budget"
>>109012058pretty sure that chifi garbage was sold for $50 new without having to repair themyou are a retard for buying BROKEN headphones for that much money
>>109005515hearing sound constantly bouncing around sounds right?
>>109013468>funko pops but in the ear this timeevery week a new gay retard hobby pops up around chink consumerism, lately its been iem niggers and keyboard losers>>109001703k702s are horribly made, like ANC wireless levels of poorly made, they use to be a lot better when they made in austria(k701), but the chink ones are just e waste and will breakbut yes for their price range they have a very wide sound stage, from what i can tell the msrp is still retarded on them so for the same price you could buy the 6xx which is ironic because it has literally no soundstage and is incredibly well built, so quite the opposite but still imo the better optionif you really want the k702 i'd just buy a used k701 from austrian days and hope the bands aren't bad>ampsif you feel you need more volume just buy a used schiit 3+ stack, jds stack or gamble on chink trash if you want, but i'd avoid that if you could. Used 02 amps are better than schiit 3's imo because of how bad the volume knobs are and 02's are like $20 or some shit now, don't buy schiit dacs below 3 and jds stuff is generally cheap enough and most is ok from memory, it's so uncommon you can usually snipe deals on egay for early elements/atoms>>109005993why bother with the worst brand in audio for qc, or a literal schizo nut case? Is it a budget thing or you just cant get dan clark/audeze where you are?
>>109014115It's a budget thing. Dan Clarks and Audeze headphones are available where I'm at but I wouldn't be able to justify the purchase rn.
>>109013559What's the point of bait this obvious?
>>109014210if you don't mind buying used you can buy ethers, or aeons used for so cheap its crazy sometimes, audezes not so much unfortunately.I got my closed aeons for $250 cad, but i had to pay $70 because of full tax on used items in this nightmare shit hole and overpriced shippingethers don't really come on anymore, and when they do they are overpriced because drop is kill which is lame
>>109014251I'll keep an eye out for them. Might go with the schizo headphones for shits and giggles though kek.
>>109014218you think its bait? look on aliexpress these pieces of shit are $50
>>109014361You made me lookPads alone cost 50€, full cans 200€Which is shockingly cheap I remember buying my HE400SE's many years ago for not much less. I've had these sundaras for ~2 years now, they were 300€+ back then still.
>>109014374>aliexpressim so glad i never have to deal with those fucking bugmen againI use to buy tv parts on there because they were 1/2 the cost of egay, and literally 5/7 orders the chinks sent me clearly used, damaged, or straight bad parts and would get into month long "battles" over a refund on a $5-11 item. I cannot imagine what some people have had to deal with on more exp purchases, even disregarding the insane amount of fraud of them its such a horrible experience
>>109014374>yurosyeah no shit you pay like 40% vat
>>109001933not sure about the m50x but i have been using my m40x for like 6 years now and they're pretty nicejust replace the pads when they get too worn out at some point my skin kept getting irritated behind my ear when i was wearing them too much with worn out pads.
>>109001703I'm looking to get back into making and mixing music, gonna get these after I save up next paycheckhttps://a.co/d/0eiIeHoA
>>109001933anon kun....redditors use chinkfiman and whatever fiio trash or chink slop that one of the paid shills tells them to buythe m50x are okay they are just super uncomfortable in my opinion, like no padding on the headband and feel like they are horrible made in your hands, one of the only headphones i ever felt like that about. But they aren't the worst thing out there, and normies love them because they are a nice looking headphone, likethe dt line from beyer it would be incredibly normie approvednot like there is some epic closed back market in that price range either, everything is mostly garbage so its just a pick your poison situation really I couldnt say with any confidence anything is even worth buying in that price range for close back anyways, having tried all of it but the chink stuff its just really hell
>>109014402I've never used them or Temu. The prices are attractive obviously. I'm worried they put bugs and spy tech in any and all electronics possible. Amazon isn't any better with Chinese shit, but I don't worry about that with them as much as others. Think like Chineseium wireless earbuds with an EQ app, no way that doesn't phone home.
>>109014402I've had quite a good experience with them. I've probably had many hundreds of orders past 10 years so far and only like a dozen items have ever been DOA or of scam quality. But I don't usually buy anything expensive from there. Often ali is the only place where you can find rare parts or refurb salvage. Most expensive thing I bought I think was a N140HCE-EN1 IPS screen for my Thinkpad for around 90€, and what I got was an absolutely perfect quality LCD lottery winner. That specific display was impossible to find anywhere else too.
>>109014456What would you recommend instead? Even if it's more expensive I'd be interested.
>>109014502closed back aeons are probably the least bad option there is, the originals which aren't even really around anymore (aeon flow closed) i absolutely hated without eqing for whatever reason, but the newer models all have different tuning like the AEON RT or the drop variant. >>109014251like i said here sometimes you can get them incredibly cheap but its not always reliable, ebay pricing and listings are so random these days. But as for comfort, materials and sound i think they are good, the open back variant is probably my favorite headphone ever. If there is QC issues it's pretty obvious out the gate because it's always channel balance but its still less common than it use to be unless it was the noires which aren't worth talking about basically everything else is chink made in that price tier, or extreme sounding like the dt 770, where a bunch of people are just going to absolutely hate it and not be able to handle the treble and sheer amount of almost beats level bass boost as for the m50x, i know they use to be modded a lot before that died completely in this hobby so you can get giant pads and add padding to the headband if you like them, i never did that myself because i gave mine to a family member before i had the chance
>>109001703>picLove those headphones. Too bad my earpads are all worn out. Ordered two seperate replacement pads but none of them sounded right which sucks so it just ended up being a waste of money.
>>109006064i got this version but asked for black rings on the adjustment mechanism instead of colored (same as the old testing units). looks really good irl and it's very comfy. i would never wear them outside thowith a bit of eq they straight up sound better than my 6XX, even in midrange
>>109014251>audezesI love the industrial look but the tuning is all kinds of wrong. It needs heavy EQ to sound normal.
>>109006956gamer pc power supplies are noisy as fuck, they ruin the dynamics and imaging and sound more tiresome in general. cheap dac/amps are marginably better but anything that doesnt have its own clean chunky power supply is going to compromise the sound chain in ways you dont even comprehendspotify is a skill issue
>>109014737Would you say they're worth picking up?
>>109014439those are monitoring headphones, not meant for mixing because their treble is not accurate
>>109014759thats true, they are also heavy so they are just for neckmaxxers i guessI wanted a pair for awhile but in shit hole canada its literally impossible to buy anything unless it's local and the lcd 3's i was going to buy were the old model and the seller was a retard unfortunatelyi would like to test them one day, having something that can eq as hard as them sounds fun to mess around with, i've also never heard any headphone that dark as stock so it would be quite an experience i would think
>>109014804for me they are absolutely worth it, especially for hearing more details and more accurate texture in the music which is important for mixing/mastering and sound design. out of the box they sounded a lot less natural than the senns, and even a bit harsh to my ears, but after quite a bit of trial and error with eq they got much more pleasant and make me hear layers in tracks that i never knew were there. picrel is what i currently have for the big pads, as you can see it doesnt require extreme curves to sound good. soundstage is nothing crazy but the imaging is nice. the treble is not as smooth as a 6XX with a tube amp but that's a tradeoff im willing to make, especially for revealing mix issues like loud S'es and making quiet hihats more audible. timbre can get really satisfying once you get the curve right, and despite being a planar it is very comfortable to wear. in fact i like the headband more than the 6XX one, which has more localized pressure giving me the headphone hair dent.they're also easy to drive but are very revealing of the source, so a proper amp and a dac with a properly filtered power supply are going to make an audible difference (which they also do with the 6XX for that matter)all that said, i did have to wait a few months for my custom order to be made + the shipment also took long as hell. but the import duty was surprisingly low so in absolute value im confident you cant get much better than this under 1k, if you like the aesthetics that is. otherwise get the fosi or fiio or whatever people are calling the new giant killer (they all look boring and fragile to me)
>>109015059also in case anyone is looking for a curve for the small pads, here is the best profile i managed to achieve. i'm a bit more confident in this preset than the big pads one because i spent more time fine tuning it, but both should be a good starting point for anyone used to the sennheiser tuning
>>109015111*5857.1 should be 15857 on both fyi
>>109001703>I want to upgrade these at around a same budgetDoesn't exist buddy
>>109015059>>109015111I'll go ahead and order these. Thanks anon.
>>109015200happy to help!
>>109014374chifiman inflates their own headphones massively before crashing the prices, HE6 were like $2000 on release and now theyre $400
>>109014840Good luck with your hunt. I picked up a used LCD-2 Classic for almost half of its original price, and I've absolutely loved it. It feels incredibly well-built. I genuinely enjoy holding it and just looking at it.The weight also isn't nearly as bad as some people make it out to be, especially with the improved headband design. I'd also recommend swapping to velour earpads, as they can make the headphones even more comfortable.As for the sound, if you're not opposed to using EQ, it's a truly beautiful headphone.
>>109015404God bless for china for obsoleting western headphone manufacturers who've been selling the same mediocre overpriced stagnating garbage for 20 years straight.I welcome our new planar magnetic overlords!
bought hd6xx but dont like them at all.I should probably try better headphones but I cant imagine i'll prefer them over IEMs
>>109015506OTL tube amp or class A linear amp fixes them, otherwise enjoy no bass and 3 blob soundstage
>>109015506Just do a low shelf EQ at 100hz
I’m looking for a headset (yes, I know) that’s compatible with both Linux (SteamOS) and Bluetooth at the same time.I need to be able to talk to a client on my smartphone while video chatting on my PC (or watching a video); calls can last over an hour.Bonus: the option to remove the microphone so I can use it as a standard headset on the rare occasions I listen to music outdoors.These models seem to fit the bill:Epos H3PRO Hybrid (but no longer available)SteelSeries Arctis Nova (I’m not sure which model)Corsair VIRTUOSO XTTurtle Beach Stealth ProDo you have any recommendations?
Modded Koss is endgame.
>>109016170what kinda mods? i have kph40 on ksc75 clips with yaxi pads and it's super good but not really endgame unless it comes down to being able to fit in a pocket
i get very solid starting mixes on a shitty laptop soundbar except for bass and high ends. that's what headphones are for. Whenever I start mixing with headphones I always end up making a mess. No money for monitors tho
>>109015506I want to buy the 650s, what do you not like about them?
>>109001703I picked up a pair of Logitech pro X2s yesterday, they're surprisingly good.I was looking at headphones around double the price and the two young guys at the store both unanimously said "lol those actually suck compared to the logitechs surprisingly". They were even adamant the X2s were better than the more expensive logitech sets. Honestly I don't really have much frame of reference, but 10/10 so far. The rifle crack in Stalker gave me goosebumps, and I've already tweaked my neck trying to turn to see what was behind me irl.
>>109005993I looked into the verum 2 not too long ago. Based on audioscience a bit off from the harman curve so you'd have to EQ them if you want that but they praised the low distortion.
>>109012021The low testosterone equivalent of women with those stupid Stanley cups
>>109012021boo
Anyone tried the fiio jt7? They seem pretty good for the price but not sure
>>109001933#producerlyfe
>>109001889It is till I post my ETA Uli review and get motivated to stir up drama for another month of baking.>>109001933They're fine lol, they only stopped being the standard rec the moment chinkfiman started getting shilled everywhere. Redditors were gassing up every Amir rec until a year ago when they realised they weren't saving money when chinkfiman and Topping stuff would break in under a year.>>109003868Final ZE3000 (not the SV). Don't buy cans that cheap, its either IEMs or TWS>>109005014Low end IEMs are better value than cheap cans, it quickly gets into grift territory. Head-Fi "Watercooler" bros who buy $10k IEMs are the funniest part of that site.>>109010305Satry 4 is unironically the go-to if you 3D print.
>>109006064these are good, just expect them to be weeks or months late cause the dude is a schizo who is also in the middle of the warzone in Ukraine lol
>>109016407someone else said no bass and 3 blob soundstage, which is mostly it. the bass isnt very bad its just very unremarkable to me but the 3 blob thing is noticeable. i also like a very direct sound which IEMs do for me, and the 6xx sound slightly veiled at all times. too cushioned and polite. its a popular headphone though and my tastes in many domains are often idiosyncratic so dont read too much into this.my music libary doesnt fit it well either, so it exposes it even more. i think its probably best for acoustic/singer songwriter stuff
>>109016776Most audiofags listen to classic for the sake of it, or slop rock/metal. IDM my 650s for DnB and I slapped the ZMF bass pads on them when I replaced them last year but definitely glad I'm moving on to the Ulis soon. If not for them, DX3000CL slaps too.
>>109015481>>109015404Feel like the running joke at Chinkfiman is how far they can go selling absolute dogshit and seeing who gasses it up. The terrible R10 clones that raped you ears, and the shit treble tuning in general. RAAL does the same, everything since the SR-1a has been mediocre to dogshit but they have an army of boomers with Immani's buyers remorse who will spam abuse at you on forums if you do anything other than say they're the best things ever.
>>109016457Seems like they'd take well to eq then if the distortion is so low. Probably won't be too hard to get them to the harman curve
>>109017014if you like harman that is. I think some may enjoy them out of the box the way they are. I ended up with DCA Noire XO but they are nearly thrice the price here.
>>109016776why do people even bother to mix with them if the soundstage and bass are gonna be so bad then? any recs?
>>109017187they have good amps
>>109017160I guess I'll have to see when they get here. Might end up enjoying the stock tuning more, happened to me before with some cans.
>>109014779Is this really that noticeable? I just plug some cheap ass over ear headphones into my onboard sound card and everything sounds just fine
>>109001703Get some KSC75's and be done with it. They mog most expensive headphones and they're like 20 bucks. I'm being completely serious.
>>109017292they seem to be a solid pick for the price so I hope you enjoy them. If I didn't have the money for the DCA I'd have bought them instead for sure.
>>109017330I'm sure I will. Maybe when I'm better off financially I'll look into some Dan Clarks
>>109017330>>109017363DCA's issue is the ecosystem around them and replacement parts, you get absolutely rinsed down the line.
>>109017430yea I noticed. Earpads are glued so they are a pain in the ass to replace. Their own dummer cable starts at $100 even though you can get cheaper ones from e.g. hart audio in your own style.
>>109017479They glue the earpads? Wtf lol
>>109017551I checked it again online as I dont want to try it on my own pair but they seem to use some double sided tape for the earpads at least on some models. That's a bit of a downer given how much they cost but the pads are rather high quality so I hope I dont have to replace them anyway.
>>109017651Hopefully it won't be necessary. Seems like a pretty big design flaw for headphones that expensive though.
>>109017312you dont really need it if youre enjoying your audio right now, but there 100% is a difference in how natural and physically tangible good music can get with a proper audio chain. the issue is that getting into amps can get you into a whole rabbit hole of finding bottlenecks in your system, which leads people to spend thousands of bucks and countless hours in their quest for max fidelity.this might not be a perfect analogy but it's like buying powerful gpu and finding out your monitor doesnt have enough hz to reap the benefits, so you get a better monitor but find out the cpu is bottlenecking the gpu. eventually you also end up also buying a better power supply to kill the coil whine but now you're finding out the game you're running has framedrops in it anyways, which never bothered you until you noticed them. and instead of pure fps all of these choices are also impacting the color balance or contrast of your monitor and the in game render distance, and every piece of hardware in the chain has 50 different alternatives each with different tradeoffs in some areas and synergies with other hardware, and people are constantly screaming that the jitter you're bothered by isn't real because they looked at the color graph and max fps number, so anything more than 20 dollars for an aliexpress PSU must be a waste of money and you're just experiencing placebo.anyways, for a cheap pair of headphones you are absolutely fine with a soundcard or a dongle.
>>109017685>>109017312You should at least get a JM20 Max or something, it's better than the audio jack on non-Apple stuff
>>109017698it having a CS dac makes me doubt it's going to be any better than the 10 dollar apple usbc dongle
>>109017734I believe that particular model is one of the whitelisted ones that wasn't faulty, a know a lot of them were shaky though. Apple dongle is fine too in that case, its more just about not getting noiseraped by a desktop pc.
>>109017752ok fair point on the whitelist, that might make it better indeed.but how can a dongle directly powered by the pc avoid getting noiseraped by it? i'm sure most sound cards nowadays are competent enough to do the same kind of basic filtering that a dongle can, correct me if im wrong
>>109017187maybe because it is unremarkable. its got good tonal balance and its intimacy may be useful. like its trustworthy idk. i dont have headphone recommendations but think id prefer hd600 over it
>>109001703i have those but mine are worn, about 7 years and they still sound good but the leather stuff is peeling a lot and the band is lighter on the head to the point I can't shake my head much in them, and the sides rusted, other than that still great sound, I intend to sew them to look grungy
>>109001703What are some FUN sounding headphones?And what do you think of the SHP9500 in terms of basic bitch neutral openback headphones? are they worth it or should I just get a cheap SHP1900/00 if I want a neutral pair after I'm done with the headphones that sound too colourful?
>>109018432You want a fun or neutral headphone? Because neutral sounding headphones aren't fun
Has anyone here ever tried these?
The fact that hd6** series are some of the most pad condition sensitive headphones(10dB diff from one year of pad wear) yet people keep recommending them as a "reference" and post very similar impressions about them says everything you need to know about the state of the headphone hobby.
>>109017698>>109017734Jcally ap6 has a fuckton of power and a non-CS chip if that matters for you. Probably too noisy for IEMs but should be just fine for headphones.
>>109001703Can't say I've listened to that many headphones but I've tried a few. My overall experience is that at similar price points you're not really going to be getting major upgrades. As long as you don't buy something that is overpriced shit, what you're really going to get is different sound but not necessarily something you can say is an outright upgrade in every way.You might get something which better suits your own preferences and you like more, that's always possible. I suggest looking into headphones which can cover for whatever weaknesses your current stuff has. For example if you have something open-back and it's struggling with sub-bass, you might want to get a closed-back model which does better there and you can use it when you want better bass. If you have something closed-back, then maybe get an open-back for better soundstage. That's how it works in my experience, headphones around the same price tend to come with advantages and disadvantages compared to their peers, at least I haven't been able to find outright upgrades that do everything better.
thoughts on bone conduction headphones?
>>109018591Yeah, that the headphone industry went souless and got brain drained and conglomerated by moving everything to China after the hd600
>>109016735>Satry 4 is unironically the go-to if you 3D print.They look sweet, but the materials for a Satyr 3 are easier to get in yurop and outside of Scamazon.Just ordered the drivers for an Ouroboros, may post about it here if there's an appropriate thread up at the time.
>>109018498Both. Both is good. (2 headphone sets)
>>109003868i bought jbl live 500 bt, its both wired/less for 30 bucks like 4 years ago and still going strong. they are well worth the price.
>>109018887if u want cheap doghsit (I assume you aren't spending much) Fiio FT1 is gonna be a decent V-shaped funbox desuNeutral just get studio cans.
>>109018651I just want a bit wider soundstage, I've heard the AKGs 701 are better than mine I'm just not sure if I can drive them only with my USB sound card
>>109001703There is a truth that nobody is willing to accept among audiofool community1. Only get over-the-ear headphones, or your ears will hurt like crazy after short durations, if you get on ear you must get like 2 inch hyper soft cushion that just gently hugs your ear, and even then it will suck.2. Open back headphones sound the best, but they suck at the same time for being a one trick pony impossible to use anywhere.3. Apple Airpods Max have the best sound cancellation, the best sound over bluetooth. Apple has the best $15 USB-C DAC dongle that beats anything on the market below $500, this is the DAC or even better you will be getting in those headphones. Plus Dolby Atmos which is insane, plus ability to get Apple Music subscription with ALAC/Dolby Atmos music. You just cannot beat this. And in the end of the day it will be cheaper than insane multi thousand dollar setup where you will listen same shitty music over and over because its so hard nowadays to download new music. Nobody has time to manage files.
>>109019539>because its so hard nowadays to download new music. Nobody has time to manage files.yeah because you buy fucking apple and have to convert every flac to fucking alacliteral humiliation ritual
>>109019029*SMASHES THE WOOD ON YOUR HEAD* for (u). Bitch you think I'm dumb? I love how you use the capital I, but you can't be arsed to use (You).Quit the bullshit and show me your forward link. How much commision are you getting?
>>109019629you dont have to use native music app you can use vlc or something else and just read flacsalac is perfectly adequate
>>109019808>alac is perfectly adequatei mean yeah sure it works but>less efficient compression than flac>more cpu-heavy in both encode and decode than flac>way less compatibleand the upsides over flac? literally none, it has 0 reason to exist, it's one of apple's most blatant attempts at vendor lock in, luckily lossless to lossless conversion doesn't cause any generational loss so it isn't even great at that...so >>109019629 is correct, alac is quite literally an humiliation ritual for being an itoddler and nothing more.
headphones were solved with hd600
>>109017673It may seem weird but thats very much a design thing to have the bass extend lowerbut anons right, the eco system for DCA fucking sucks, the cables are shit and overpriced but you can get aftermarket ones for like $30, the pads suck because they are pleather, the killer is having to pay half the cost of the pads in shipping, so for cucknadians it's like $130 for one pad swap, assuming you also bought a cable you'd be out over 260 after conversion audeze has a lot more options for pad options, but audezes headphones are a lot more money, even on resale
>>109017651>but the pads are rather high quality so I hope I dont have to replace them anywayyeah, i put really good quality tires on my car so hopefully i never need to replace them anyway...that's not really how this works, the average service life for a pair of headphones is somewhere between 10 years and *pretty much infinity*, no type of earpad will last 10+ years without any wear and tear, even real leather pads will have the inner foam compress over time
PLEASE HELP ME DECIDEHD 600VSHD 6XX/650VSHD 490AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>109020483buy whatever is cheapestthe 600/650 debate that you've probably seen was at a time when the 650 was noticably more expensive and people also like the 600, so thats the main reason you see the 600>650 regardless of personal preferencebut the 6xx and 650 are the same so if its cheaper get that, as for the 490 pro there is no way it's worth the cost unless you specifically don't want planars which are about the same cost, at least here
>>1090205916xx is cheapest ($220)600 follows close behind ($260)490 on sale around ($340)
>>109020649the 600/650/490 are common enough they should be at any audio store, if you can testing them all first is probably the best idea but i'd probably still get whats cheapest. There is also the r70xA thats worth considering for the price of the 490 pro, its basically just the 6x0 line with a slightly different tuning and more soundstage, it's no hd 800 levels but still at least it has some unlike the 3 blobs of the 6x0 line
>>109020701my god sometimes i really type like i had a stroke, sorry for that
>>109001703Adams audio has nice things.
I haven’t touched 650 since I got my HDB630
>>109020483I'm a big fan of the 600 line but the 490 is just so much better. It actually has bass and better comfort.
>>109007122Autists are 100% in the over-the-ears camp.
Isn't the HD 58x just the HD 600 but fun, or is there that much less imaging and detail?
>>10902088558x was based on the 580 not the 600 if memory holdswas basically always accepted as worse but maybe some people liked itmost "fun" headphones people refer to are V shaped and usually closed backs, although those might as well be losted media now that all the fostex drop models are discontd and scalped, and culturally irrelevant like the denons as for "fun" open backs i cant imagine that same headphone is even remotely bass heavy enough to qualify but maybe im wrong, i've never heard any decent "fun" open back unless it was the aeon open
Just buy something affordable, built well and comfortable, then EQ it properly.There. You solved headphones.
>>109020924its not about solving things, its about the experience anon
>wear glasses>disqualified from wearing 99% of headphonesyou people have it so good
Who SRH1540 here? (or other Shure)
>>109020649i recently bought a hd600 from sennheiser directly for €190, that's about $220
Subhuman low-IQ opinion: bass-heavy music needs bass-heavy headphonesEinstein-level IQ opinion: bass-light music benefits the most from bass-heavy headphones; bass-heavy music sounds unbalanced with bass-heavy headphones
>>109020918Denons are slept on. The D7200 is the first headphone I had actually fun.
>>109020991LCD-5 for Einstein IQ with heavy BASS
>>109021018i've heard good things, i just never could pull the trigger even on some price error level deals, too much shit infront of them i want to try out but hopefully one day i will
i got new headpos today.
>>109019470I've never listened to those AKGs so I can't really say. Looking them up it seems that their sensitivity is indeed very low, in other words they probably are on the harder side to drive. I'd guess they're hard to get loud in general and on inadequate amplification they may be particularly lacking in bass (because bass requires the most power). Can't really say about soundstage, not having listened to them.
We never knew how good we had it till they were gone and were replaced by bill gates garbage dumphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0zwPWJdUXw&pp=ygUVc3RlcmVvcGhpbGUgYXJ0IGR1ZGx5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTd-utS14xs&pp=ygUQc3RlcmVvcGhpbGUgdHlsbA%3D%3D
>>109009046>ribbons When I attempted to demo these, they totally fried a desktop amp into distortion zone
>>109020121DCA shitter owner here. My AKG K701 pads lasted me some 5 years. If the DCA pads last five years, it will be worth it.It’s shit that they’re pleather, but they genuinely seem very high quality, much better than Hifiman pleather.Regarding their cable, it’s shit (mine is 4,4mm balanced, but not microphonic and you can always buy a chink Open Heart cable from aliexpress to replace it.Haven’t tried headphones that sat so well on my head, this shitter has stellar comfort despite being a fat fuck.
>>109003868>battery>durable pick one
there are people who still fall for the sennheiser meme in 2026
Wireless anc-fag here. I've been using Sony xm5 for some years. The build quality was shit (hinges broke several times) and the phone app was normie lifestyle-bloat. Sound quality and ANC was good enough for me though, especially over usb-c connection.If you had to recommend some wireless anc headphones other than Sony, which would it be? mostly for casual pc use, going out for a walk etc.
>>109020991non-iq obsessed /sci/ ding dong anon opinion : V-shaped and speaker response shaped FRs are better for listening at not ear rape levelsalso schrodinger's sharur aka why does he change opinion on what is good or shit tier every once in a while, lately he's 180°ed his opinion in less than a week ffs>>109021504SONY's Z1R/Z7M2 are(were?) even more comfortable, literal round cutout pillows. DCA's noire chassis is slightly too claustrophobic to have perfect comfort unless you have sub 150cm anime girl sized head and ears...
>>109021664>sharursharur is an insane person his two recommended headphones on peqdb are LCD 5's and some 5 dollar akg budi cant lie thats hilarious and i wish i was that cool >z1rI still want to try them but my fucking god are they expensive, similiar msrp to hd 800's but significantly harder to find and more exp on the used market. my normal ways of getting them are fucked completely by boomers buying shit on credit online, one day ill get em locally even if its just to see if tyll was right again on another headphone, if he was im about to waste 1.5k
>>109021682yeah i wouldn't recommend buying them unless you're certain you'll like it, the comfort of their chassis is good but the sound... there's something missing well at least that was my experience with the z7m2 and it could've just been the 20db treble dip it has(0_0)
>>109021711>there's something missing well at least that was my experience with the z7m2 and it could've just been the 20db treble dip it has(0_0)Sony is such a strange companylike truly the embodiment of "why can't you just act fucking normal" Now that they are discon i don't think i'll ever find them anyways, already seemed like it didn't sell that many for how uncommon it is, maybe i'm reading into that too much thoughSurely putting that headphone on such an MSRP was truly insane though right? I mean it came out after the ether cx(?)/aeon and it was like 3-5x the price, i cant remember if aeon was discontented yet or notI wanted some of their old flagship iems, but i ran into similiar issues where all the available were in totally fucked condition for something i wouldnt consider paying
>>109020956you should try harder by cutting glasses slots to the pads
Suy Btax
>>109020956i have one pair of glasses that's painful with over ear headphones and one pair that somehow fits under the pads without adding much pressure. the 6XX pads also naturally got a little groove where the frame sits. my verum 2 is more comfortable with the small pads than with the large ones but both sound fine (my hair probably makes more difference than the glasses). all my koss headphones are perfectly comfortable, and ksc75 clips do not add any pressure at all, so i always wear them around the house no issue. maybe your glasses are just too fat
>>109021145looks cool. what brand is that?
>>109021604the only time i really fell for the sennheiser meme was when i bought the HD 4.40 BT, which sucked ass. the 6XX on the other hand, was and still is an absolute revelation
I have issues being hygienic with my headphonesthe headband is pretty thoroughly connected to the set via screws n shitwashing it seems like electrical trouble waiting to happen when you put it on and connect it to the pcwhy arent conveniently removable headband padding you can wash the standard?
>>109001703How did your fidelios sound out of the box? Mine sounded like absolute dogshit but they are pretty amazing for their price once EQ'd.
>>109022365I think audioscience review mentioned you need to eq but then it loses dynamic range or something so that made the set unrecommended
>>109003868For "wireless" just buy a qudelix 5k, any wired 30-50 bucks inears and download their EQ profile in the qudelix app and it will sound better than any wireless stuff under 300 bucks. Only downside is that you'll still have a cable plugged into the Qudelix.All in one wireless products around that price point suck balls.
>>109022353hd 800s and 6x0 line you can do that, most planars use leather headbands so thats not possible, as for why its not the standard, well most headphones are fucking e waste and they don't want you to keep them for very long, like ANC nigger slop hell even the inner foam of the cups of the hd 800 can be taken out easily, you just gotta pay the money i guess or buy specifically for exactly what you want
>>109022393Inner felt? i think i mean on the hd 800, foam isn't really what im trying to say, whatever the material is anyways
>>109022393literally the most disgusting unhygienic thing you can imagine, fatty scalp skin being smeared on it and they dont care about washabilityfucking bizarre.
Headphones are fucking nasty, with IEMs you just wipe the tips and you're done.
>>109022427surely they invented foam that doesnt spontaneously crumble from contact with air by now?I dont think even chinks need to rely on mattress foam they got from alibaba
>>109022427most of those people live in humid hellholes and aren't hygenic anyways, same issue would happen with in ear dildos except the in ear dildo will just kill itself, and more than likely end up with a ear infection that will make them go deaf long beforejust use whatever you want but avoiding reality isn't going to help anyone, it's like people who bought wood cup headphones in dry climates and they would pop off the cups
>>109022373Dynamic range is just the difference between the quietest and loudest sound it can play accurately (so between the noise floor and the saturation point or the magnitude at max volume, whatever is the lowest). So yeah, if you do something like eq a frequency region down by 1db, you will be losing 1db of dynamic range for that region, as the noise floor can't go lower than what the hardware's noise allows while but the maximum loudness can, but the positive from eqing down annoying frequencies is way more significant than what you lose from the reduced DR unless you are doing sound design work, in which case you should be buying headphones with a more consistent flat response, not something as prone to peaks and valleys as the fidelos.
Amazon has like 5-15€ removable headband covers that would do the job of being cleanablebut headphone makers cant bundle those with their shit
>>109022494the good ones are a lot more expensive if you want added padding like those ZMF onesironically some of the covers only really exist because of pleather trash that peels, which is a lot of the times ANC, or shit like the focal clear OG that's headband snapped, and some people used the covers to protect from moistureits all so tiresome
>>109022353For the diadema padding I just use some alcohol wipes and rub wit a wet towel afterwards.For the earpads, if they are removable there's no issue cleaning them. If they are non removable, do alcohol wipes and, for those with a hairy texture like OP's, use an electric lint roller to get rid of all the stuff that got stuck in the hairs.Though check what materials they are made off cause some things get rekt by alcohol.Really cleaning headphones is way less painful than cleaning most desk chairs.
been satisfied with Quad ERA-1 with Stax pads for 5 or so yearsyou'd think I'd get used to the sound but instead I get wowed every single day
>>109022547>cleaning most desk chairsyeah I dont get them eitheryou know you need to wash thing that touches your ass a lot, but they nail it glued into the framewhy the fuck. I use a blanket over my chair that I wash regularly
>>109020956Get thin frames like this. I literally don't feel them at all when wearing my stock pad Sundaras, and they don't affect the sound either in any way.
>>109020956Denon AH-D5200s don't particularly care if there's a perfect seal to your head, are nicely built, reasonably well tuned out of the box, and can be found on sale around 400 bucks from time to time. Don't pay MSRP for them though.
>>109022733hard to recommend when the headband is plastic meaning you can't adjust the clampthe tuning is great, though
>>109022787There's a piece of spring steel inside the headband, so you can adjust the clamp actually.Pic not mine, the slider mechanisms are plastic but the actual clamp is provided by a piece of metal.
>>109021893it's the tangzu ox demon king.
>>109023985incredible name
>>109024553Chinese stuff tends to have pretty funny names.
i got pc37x's and theyre slowly dying. should i settle for hd560s or should i go for asus kitharas? is it worth spending that much more? (110 eur for refurbished sennies vs 280 for kitharas) i mostly play games and consume content, desu not a whole lot of fps games nowadays but i really enjoy open backs so i dont know what else would fit and be an upgrade from the pc37x
>>109025959i would buy neither because both are chink garbage6xx or used aeons, if you want a mic maybe one of those failed podcasters that are everywhere now has a mic for sale locally for pennies, or you could mod mic the 6xxI have no faith in the worst company in audio to make a gaming headset(chinkfiman) if audeze cant make them with proper qc in chinathe 560s failure rate is very alarming to me, seems like every other day i see someone break them and im not recommending anything that low quality when the 6x0 line is going 3 decades strong
