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If it were up to people like him, we'd lose the wealth we've gained over the past decades... Yeah. Let's go back to the 90s or 50s or 20s when things were "objectively" better...
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>>109002364
Because they are young.
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>you can always tell
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#StopAIHate
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>>109002417
I legit hate trannies so goddamn much
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>>109002421
>>109002417
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>>109002421
For some reason being an incel correlates strongly with being transphobic
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>>109002437
Trannies aren't human though. So bring transphobic is perfectly fine
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>>109002439
Funny how you don't disagree with what I said
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>AI Art
yeah but why though? You legally can't even have copyright protections over AI artwork unless there is a certain level of human intervention involved in its creation so it's difficult to commercialize wholesale. As it should be, art that wasn't made by humans isn't relevant to humans. I get using AI for other things like automation but art makes less sense to use AI for unless you just want to quickly generate degenerate goonshit that nobody is going to consider high art anyways
>inb4 "copyright bad!"
If you believe this, it's simply because you've never made anything of value in your entire life. I'm not saying this in an emotional way, I'm stating this as a matter of fact. Copyright is something granted to you by default upon the creation of an original piece of artwork.
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>>109002449
Funny how YWNBAW
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>>109002364
"Horse breeder wishes Model T would disappear forever".
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>>109002364
Gatekeeping is good, and I don't believe AI will replace artists, but I can't talk about it openly without people assuming I'm 200% autistic about it in the way executives are thinking it's magic and it will replace everything. Normalfags already ruined a lot of things, it's good that they be against it so they don't shit up another subculture/technology.
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>>109002364
>Yeah. Let's go back to the 90s or 50s or 20s when things were "objectively" better...
I will eternally resent the fact I couldn't experience the 90s in my 20s. Everything fucking sucks now. All the culture I looked forward to participating in is dead. Now it's just Tiktok and slop.
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Plus you can't/shouldn't talk about it openly otherwise people will assume you have expensive hardware worth stealing.
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>>109002527
> and I don't believe AI will replace artists,
Art commissions are dead.

Whenever I need a new logo or flyer I just ask ChatGPT or Nano Banana instead.
I saved thousands of dollars.
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>>109002528
>Yeah. Let's go back to the 90s or 50s or 20s when things were "objectively" better...

Not really. Video games back then looked like this. The 90s sucked.
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>>109002597
Ok so?
The ones who do still charge thousands of dollars and they take months to render it.

AI both looks better and creates it faster.
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>>109002490
Horses are making a comeback in occupied crimea to be fair
https://youtu.be/gsNgDWhnrYU?t=260
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>>109002364
It's very depressing that even the young are anti-tech now. Usually older people get more set in their ways and hesitant to new developments in technology, but you could count on the young to embrace it and bring positive changes with it that older people can't see. Now the young use tech the most but are the most negative towards it.

>inb4 "its because young people are the most dependent on tech and have the most to lose from it"
Well its not going anywhere despite the eternal bubble popping fantasy, so maybe accept it and find a way forward with it instead of being cynical fucks that bring the world down and give us the shit timeline with the lamest utilization of it.
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>>109002679
>It's very depressing that even the young are anti-tech now.
Depressing? To me it's kind of a breath of fresh air that we have a generation that doesn't want to be slaves of soulless tech giants. Don't blame the youth, blame the state of the industry. I'd rather that young people go outside and touch grass again than fall for the same mistakes of their millennial parents
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>>109002679
I like tech that makes people's lives better. I don't like tech that makes people's lives worse.
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>>109002679
Hey unc, I'm grateful for the technological advances that got us to this point and can understand how you like progression because it improved your life.
There's good stuff being today being done in healthcare (such as a breakthrough in pancreatic cancer treatment), but AGI and neuralink are really not worth it. No one should have that power. Enforcing it requires setting limits on hardware and twisting China's arm to cooperate, but it can be done.
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>>109002369
This. They literally haven't had enough time to know better. And in today's world I'm not surprised they don't get any proper guidance to give them a head start either, they're all late to figure things out.
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>>109002364
when is this nepo baby thief going to pay for stealing the idea from 4chan?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Backrooms
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>>109002750
You're too young and stupid to know what you're talking about, so stfu and never reply to me again, you dumbassed Fuckfaced FAGGOT
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>>109002456
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>>109002765
Alternatively, you could tell me why I'm wrong since you know more than I do.
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>>109002563
Money isn't even the issue for me.
We're talking about giving money to people who literally want to kill AI users.
They're not just mad about losing money they want to commit violence to another human being because that person uses a machine that they don't like.
This goes beyond difference of opinion for me, it's destructive to human life. Ironic considering these people hate the machine so much but all they want to do is attack and kill their fellow man for something as simple as generating an image for their own enjoyment in the privacy of their own home.
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>>109002781
So the world a favor and buy some rope and find a high crossbeam
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>>109002364
We are all collectively learning that improved technology doesn't inherently lead to improved experiences and it is causing everyone to lose faith in the kind of blind optimism we had about technology in the twentieth century and early 21st century. We no longer automatically believe that things will get better once the tech improves, and rightfully so, because our lived experiences have repeatedly and consistently demonstrated that improvements in technology can often cause conditions to WORSEN in ways not previously possible but now enabled by advancements in science.
In summation, we are losing interest in new shiny things because we know now that they may bring with them unique problems we didn't have to deal with before, and those problems may be worse than the set of problems we have before their introduction.

With that said, fuck AI, fuck streaming, fuck the panopticon, Ted Kaczynski was right about everything, retvrn to monke, own everything outright.
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>>109002799
Just because they want me dead doesn't mean I would hang them for it. I just don't support them.
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>>109002765
Jimmies: rustled
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>>109002764
How is he a nepobaby?
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>>109002819
How are you a homosexual?
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i am a zoomie and i pretty much feel nothing about ai
i draw, code and make music etc..
and my conclusion(for now) is people use the word AI like it's an absolute thing where it's more like a spectrum
from a neural DSP to videogen
for someone who made their identity around being opposed to AI conflates it and effectively gaslight themselves into thinking everything with something deep leaning applied that are called AI for whatever reason are bad
i get that at the current state most overcooked slop that are like 99% look bad but also my honesty cannot deny that it can become a better tool with more organic artist integration instead of the current slot machine
for example, nobody in sane mind enjoys retopology work and there are some promising 'ai' based solutions where you work with it
saying that it's satanic and must be burnt etc seem like too much for me despite all the current inflated financial interest and consequences it brought
but idk really, i am no expert and i have no idea
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>>109002781
I'm against AI art but don't want people to be murdered for generating stuff. I'm sure a deranged minority do though - although they would otherwise find another reason to justify murder, such as being a healthcare CEO.
The people who are anti-human (those who push for AGI and "the singularity") are fair game though, because it's self-defence. That's just a small minority of people who use AI, but they are evil, against life itself.
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>>109002850
>draw, code and make music
LMAO
You've never seen a real vagina, have you?
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>>109002581
I WANTED TO EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD NOT VIDEO GAMES
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YOU GO OUTISIDE TODAY AND ITS JUST NIGGERS AND LEDS
THERE WERE NO NIGGERS OR LEDS WHEN I WAS YOUNG
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>>109002364
As much as I hate to use the phrase, americans really have pushed everything into “I support/hate the current thing”
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>>109002693
Millennial parents? Nigger are you retarded?
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>>109002851
Drop the name, namefag. You clearly don’t know where you are
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>>109002911
Current thing sucks ass tho
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>>109002437
>transphobic
Being disgusted by something is not fear and therefore not a phobia. I'm not transphobic, I'm transgusted.
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>>109002802
What technological advancements have made things worse for people?
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>>109002973
Stfu, niggrjewtranny
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>>109002364
Instead he is going to disappear forever soon. Just like the other humans. Isnt that nice? Some among my fellow humans are not luddites, not lunatics and not fools, they are people with an open mind who want to see AI succeed.
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>>109002850
I understand your reasoning. At heart I'm more of a hardliner but give ground in some places (like the /dmp/ AI rules) for pragmatic reasons - mainly because it's difficult to enforce an AI ban.

The issue I have with introducing AI in art comes from a conservative perspective rather than a leftist one - "muh water" or "muh xitter artists" is not what concerns me. The issue is, once you start using AI for repetitive tasks, where does it stop? AI - unlike previous tools like the synthesizer - roughly models the human brain. Therefore, it has the power to create fake art - that with little or no human creativity.
Whilst using AI to speed up repetitive parts makes sense from a practical standpoint, the prompter would be tempted to use it in more and more places, because it's much faster. It's the same issue with assisted suicide - what is limited at first gets expanded over time, because a precedent has been set and the line can be crept ever further. The Jews were not the first to be slaughtered by the Nazis - the first people to go to the ovens were the sick, the retarded, and people with inheritable diseases. The USA rightfully stopped its eugenics program because it devalues the sanctity of human life. At least with abortion, there is a hard line which can't be crossed: birth.
So yes, I would snap my fingers like the guy in the OP pic.
TLDR:
Artificial intelligence is artificial creativity
Slippery slope is real.
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>>109002992
Phobia never just meant fear dumbass
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>>109002429
There's a reason for rope day right there
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aifags really haven't helped their credibility by flooding the internet with garbage and fraud
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>>109002381
>as if zoomers care about Monet
They are sick of ai porn crowding their hentai searches
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>>109003087
to a growing number of people, any hint of AI is immediate grounds for dismissing the content and closing the tab. it's not clear how you benefit from this, unless your sole goal is to be an annoying faggot.
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>>109003051
i dont think you really understood what i meant
they dont try to model the human brain or something, it is a way to bruteforce the mathematical model of various problems that were traditionally thought to be impossible to model due to their sheer nonlinearity and complexity
i agree that some types of it can make people lazy or even aims to completely replace it with a heavily information bottlenecked roulette machine like prompting based tools, i believe that at its very core and meaning of it, it is a tool. but tool in a same way that you can build an instant explosion hand grenade, which is, a very useless/harmful tool, but a tool nonetheless.
the nature of deep learning makes it very easy to make such harmful tools, but 'i would snap' is very a very doubtful statement when the boundary of what you would/could call an 'ai' isnt really a firm picture to start with.
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>>109003102
Learn to draw so you can bake your own hentai.
You'll pick up a useful skill and you can, erm, enjoy yourself doing it.
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>>109003127
is this just one guy spamming a few boards?
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>>109003126
also even if you confine it to 'generative'
is the neural piano same as stuff like suno?
i get that there is much visible harm and slop and whatnot, but i feel like both the hate and shill are at the point of being hazardous for one's own thinking besides everything else
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>>109003127
This. AI has replaced the chuds once and for all
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>>109003087
nice jeetphone
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>>109003126
I will give you this: AI tools which have a constrained, specialized function (like a reptology tool) are much less damaging to the artistic value than prompting a whole new asset. Pragmatically it makes sense for you to use it, and I probably would too in your position.
Still, the line between tools of hard logic and deep learning is crossed, if only slightly. If I'm a five-star general defending a country I would want the boundary to be along a river rather than across some fields, because in the latter there is no solid line and the enemy can easily chip away at the territory.
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>>109003024
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/XShUWhMhwvEXOCXYpZTG-w/
>254 results found.
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>>109003230
fair point
there is some genuinely murky areas where tools built on top of numerous man-made assumptions and heuristics that behaves ultimately similar to deep learning based tools, but the overlap is currently not that deep i am aware of
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>>109003252
you are mentally ill
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The AI companies have painted it as if it's their amazing superintelligent and life-threatening models vs the concerned community of scientists (which all work in the company's superintelligence safety council or some shit like that) who mean very well, by shilling this 2-sided battle, they are benefited no matter who wins.
Thing is, as with most conflicts, a middle ground will be reached, this middle ground of this artificial battle is strict regulations on AI which will squeeze out open competition and consolidate OpenAI/Anthropic/whatever once the bubble solidifies (not pops) without interference from emerging labs.
This is not like it's some secret plan that was communicated to me in a dream or anything, they are absolutely terrified of emerging open laboratories or even hobbists, look at the leaked "We Have No Moat, And Neither Does OpenAI" document leaked. The real battle is big AI labs vs open models and they know this.
Of course the goyim are cattle and will fall for this so it's hopeless, hope they all end up getting smoked by a palantir drone.
Reminds me of the anti-nuclear craze of the 70s but more heavily psyop'd into the global consciousness.
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>>109002693
Only anon who gets it, fuck this closed source, proprietary, lobotomized shit kikes are throwing out.
Just another technology stolen by (((tech giants))), shame anybody using it.
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>>109002417
Your entire identity is commissioning slop?
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>>109002429
This is just as forced as the furries comparing their being shunned to ww2 persecution of the Jews. Congrats ai bros, you're just as despised as furries!
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>>109002563
You were never going to commission an artist anyways, larper. AI art just let the entire population know who told artists they'd "pay them in exposure" at a glance.
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>>109002781
I don't want people who use ai to die. I feel immense pity for them from the psychosis and illiteracy they're subjecting themselves to.
CEOs that want to use ai to murder people for Israel while cutting other people off from basic utilities so that they can make any and all technology inaccessible from their overconsumption with funds they take from tax payers can all hang, though.
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>>109002851
Lmao this immense faggot actually wept for the billionaire murderer getting his comeuppance. Change your name to goychan.
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>>109002364
>>109002369
Everyone thinks the world was perfect when they were in the age range of 15-20.
Everything that came before that was the inevitable march of progress and everything that comes after is a horrible perversion.
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>>109002364
tranny propaganda
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>>109002364
They are born into a world where you get all the free stuff and they hate it because they're told AI would take their jobs, but at the same time, they're fed communist propaganda slop and champion people not working.
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>>109003443
The person who made that quote is 20 years old and he just directed a movie about how things are not good presently but people refuse to fix it.
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>>109003453
>The person who made that quote is 20 years old
So it lines up.
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>>109002364
>Yeah. Let's go back to the 90s or 50s or 20s when things were "objectively" better...
this, but actually
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>>109003456
it sure does, he lived his "perfect world" right when AI appeared and grew, in the age range of 15-20, and somehow he's against it
how do you explain that?
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>>109003475
here's how I explain it
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>>109002364
He got famous off a stolen idea.
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>>109002364
AI has become associated with "tech bros" and the big tech establishment.
Young people want to feel independent and not do what the "establishment" says.

Also it's a sentiment that's been echoed so much that it's gained critical mass and people feel anti-AI just because their friends and social groups expect them to be.
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>>109003577
maybe people just don't like being lied to
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>>109003597
they hate the idea of the goyim being able to make something that isnt filtered through them and injected with their propaganda, why do you think they're pushing to end the personal computer and make everyone tablet saassissies
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>>109002851
>WAHHHHHHHH YOU CANT JUST KILL EVERYONE AND REPLACE THEM WITH AI BECAUSE..... BECAUSE ITS LE HECKIN EVILERINOE!!
AGI is retribution to humanity. Total luddite death.
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>>109002364
It's taking their jerbs!
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>>109003128
It don't work like that
Would you fap to a girl without her skin
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>>109002364
All AI art I have seen has been complete shit. It is never coherently a unique piece, and all of the artifacts of somehow molding into it through the different abstract layers and iterations are present. Not sure if that makes sense, I just think it's an issue and limiation of the neural networks they use, that has been getting better and better with time. I personally have no issue if the entire art industry is destroyed and monopolized into the hands of AI and every single artist on earth loses their job. I like making music, painting, have thought of getting into filming, or playing the piano. But it doesn't really make a difference to me to know that there is a machine in the world that can also do these things. The state space for stories, visual art, music, is so massive that even if AI generated everything, it won't mean a human cannot discover it on their own and create it purely, and get the satisfaction out of that, then show the people it, who just probabilistically would not have ran into that piece of art because yeah... Idk. Retarded discussion for naive and anxious people who are entitled to attention and resource of other headless consumerist chickens. Everyone around me is retarded, none of them know how to self reflect on their behaviour and nobody knows why they do what they do.
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>>109002429
Got an audible laugh out of me. Weird time to be alive
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>>109002364
Because they are troon and leftist and hollywood Jews, and the majority of anti-AI sentiment of today is forced and retarded.
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>>109002364
they are luddites. Also he works in Hollywood. You have to realize that creative types are threatened by this and he needs to say shit like this to stay in business.

What I find really funny af is that CGI even if created by studies and crafted by CG artist it still objectively looks like dog shit 99% of all these companies that get billions with there CG workstations and servers are if not worse then AI is. Its absolutely fucking insane and funny. I also never ever have had a anti-AI retard talk about legitimate CG. However the good thing for artist that shouldn't care much about this but use it like a tool is that humanity has never liked "perfection" we love imperfection. I think most of these luddites are legitimately low IQ nigger retards.
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>>109003719
ESL
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>>109003671
You have no idea that you have seen good AI art because it blends in so well you retarded fuck.
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Why do conservatives tend to be pro-AI art, while liberals are anti-AI art? You would think the right wants to "conserve" traditional art, while the left thinks AI democratizes a skill only few have.
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>>109003775
Conservatives have real jobs and do art has a hobby. AI just speeds that up and it's neat to use. Liberals have art as their main job and AI is just a direct threat to that. Now the conservative that had no choice but to buy your art for professional-grade quality can just do it themselves.
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>>109003755
I don't pay attention to advertisements because I use adblock and look at the trees and architechture IRL, and all art in advertisements is shit anyway so I don't use it as a measure of good art. I have seen it in gaming trailers everywhere. And when it comes to art for the sake of art, I only really listen to music from people who were doing it since the 70s-90s. Would be surprised if any of the tracks in the new BOC album were fully AI, most likely none was used. I know some of the top 100 radio shit people make contain AI, but it's all shit anyways so it doesn't really hit the standard of good AI art.
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>>109003784
>"do art"
>have to either generate it or purchase it
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>>109003775
liberals are more intelligent then conservatives. Liberals rightfully see AI as a threat to their jobs and creation itself. They are right in that AI will take their jobs and it might very well destroy humanity in its current form. Thing is they believe things will always remain how they are just like conservatives. I believe society lags behind technological advancement. The fact we see huge inflation and people unable to think of a future where working menial jobs isn't a thing anymore but a game. Another example is that most people still believe we live in some financial 1950s-2000s era when in reality we are far beyond even giving a shit about money. Money itself is a figment of peoples minds. Technology has basically made the money irrelevant. The government can print a billion fake usd without anyone ever knowing and pump random sectors without anyone even doing. Society just hasn't caught up yet.
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>>109003822
>Would be surprised if any of the tracks in the new BOC album were fully AI
LOL BOC is such dog shit. You wouldn't be able to tell if they mixed AI and their boring ass work together. Oh and let me not forget to mention for many years now people have been using AI to create music that a wide audience will like without the current neural networks.
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>>109003854
what are you so butthurt about
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>>109002856
nigger
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>>109002456
> You legally can't even have copyright protections over AI artwork unless there is a certain level of human intervention involved in its creation
Nobody enforces that. It's just free copyright grifting and reprocessing existing work while claiming you made it. There's an entire project right now that just redoes all of the code of open source projects and slaps a new license on it that lets you fork and copyright it. Totally legal even by this definition.
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AI will be just like Covid, in ~3 years, everyone is going to pretend this whole virtue signaling episode by luddites never happened and will whine at you when you point out it did
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>>109002381
Anyone with any intelligence or knowledge of science and suggestion knows this says nothing at all about people's ability to intuit ai-produced artwork. People often incorrectly explain correct intuitions. And in this case there was no intuition at all because they were lied to. I'd be embarrassed to post that Twitter screencap.
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>>109003910
beucase you're forever alone
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>>109003252
>>109003317
>getting nooticed about yout spam
lay off the fentanyl grandmas
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>>109003986
Covid is directly responsible for the current AI boom. It gave people nothing else to do than to work on this, which accelerated progress a lot.
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>>109003986
How's that NFT portfolio lookin these days my guy?
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>>109004165
>Comparing crypto to AI
brain damage or underage, call it
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>>109003405
it feels like to some people it actually is!
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>>109004216
>technology with questionable inherent value being aggressively sold to bagholders through hype cycles leveraging extreme FOMO and claiming any skeptics are luddites
I suppose the only difference between crypto and AI is that crypto was always a side bet, but now the entire economy is being bet on AI.

Hope it turns out better than NFTs!
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zoomers are not as stupid as you think
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there is direct overlap with ai worshippers and nft bros and their victims and it shows.
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>>109002490
>replacing human creativity, a basic human hobby since the first human, is like... totally like replacing a mode of transportation with a faster and cheaper one
I'M SO GLAD I'M NOT INDIAN! MY MIND CAN CREATE AND MY HANDS CAN TRANSLATE!
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>>109004274
Riding horses has been a human hobby since the domestication of the horse 4200 years ago. It's just no longer the only way to get places on land.

Humans will continue to create things, but now you can get your gay OC or fanfic generated by a computer for free.
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>ai slop enshitifies everyone's lives except the top 0.1% and their loyal goyim
>wtf why don't you love it????
Big head scratcher there innit
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>>109002364
It's going to tank the job market and permenently fuck their futures up.
Only zoomers with no aspirations or who suffer from laziness love it.
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>>109002364
I agree with him. So far, AI is clearly net negative.
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>>109004734
>No one cares
If that was true you wouldn't be handing out (you)s to everyone that says they don't like AI
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>>109002364
Why do you keep asking this about young people, middle aged people, wealthy people, poor people, artists, engineers, blue collar workers, etc.? Maybe if you keep asking from different angles, you'll justify this garbage in that toddler brain of yours.
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>>109003087
I don't think you realize how stupid it is to piss off everyone else. The trannies made the same mistake.
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>>109002369
Oh lol yeah I see now
AI is good because young people don't know any better
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>>109003975
>There's an entire project right now that just redoes all of the code of open source projects and slaps a new license on it that lets you fork and copyright it. Totally legal even by this definition.
Anon, ALL open source projects are subject to copyright, that's basically what makes things like the GPL binding to begin with as the copyright holders are the Free Software Foundation essentially
>AITards not knowing how any of this works
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>>109004794
Won what?
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>>109002364
AI art is all genned by a handful of large globalist corporations, and it shows. It's establishment, and young people don't generally like the establishment, least of all when it's producing low quality slop and telling everyone to eat up.
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>>109002437
the only actual "correlation" is that trannies call everyone who disagrees with them a "transphobic incel"
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Imagine rooting for slop and giant data centers
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AI will do the opposite of democratizing creativity. It will flood the internet with so much mass produced slop that people will only go to their familiar franchises and corporations to buy things. It will become impossible to make any break out culture if you're just some random guy; culture will become exclusively owned by the elites.

Teaching everyone to code didn't democratize software development, it helped centralized power into the hands of the few. Unreal Engine didn't usher in an age of better games, it made everything worse and drove down the salaries and quality of all games. AI will do the same, but even worse. Your epic gooner chud adventure kinoludo game won't even get views, no matter how masterfully made it is, because it will have to stand aside literally billions of identical slop made by indians in half the time and at 1/100th the quality.

The point of AI is to destroy the internet and put information back into the control of the elites. They'll be the only ones who know how to cut through the fog of misinformation driven by the AI era.
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>>109002417
when will the
>picrel
community accept AI artists into its fold?
what will be their acronym?
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>>109004911
>culture will become exclusively owned by the elites.
Its been that way for decades and it used to be arguably much worse - in the 90's basically all culture was owned by corporations, record labels etc. Nowadays art is much more democratic thanks to the internet.
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>>109002364
This has almost always been the case for any upcoming technology that changes shit a lot in the world, you have retards that can't adapt and then screech out like animals that are taken out of their comfort zone, and if enough of them screech then like parrots the other self-awareless subhumans join in on the trend. Even if eventually LLMs get supplanted by something else, the whole concept of using AI as a tool with human intent behind it is never going away, anyone on this planet who thinks this is a fad is either retarded or delusional. The only thing those morons are right about is the whole "AI as a service" thing, that shit is a bubble propped up by delusional and retarded suits. The actual future of AI is every company moving to efficient and cheap local models, these models keep getting better and will soon reach a good enough level to use without issues, it's going to be not too dissimilar from having an in-house game engine.
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>>109002364
pretty funny the entire lore of BACKROOM is hallucinating reality
and endless, physical interior corridor slop
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>>109004392
AI generatring is not you creating tho, but good copium attempt
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Nu-/g/ stopped posting cyberpunk threads and started acting like bottom-rung corpos. Sad!
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>I'll never use that pesky "electricity", candles are enough
>I'll never use those pesky "machines", my hands are enough
>I'll never use that pesky "telephone", I'll just talk eye to eye to the person
>I'll never use that pesky "car", horses are free
>I'll never use that pesky typewriter, handwritten is more soulful
>I'll never use that pesky "camera", just paint and draw people like a normal person
>I'll never use that pesky "washing machine", just wash the damn clothes on the river
>I'll never use that pesky "refrigerator", just drown food in pork fat and salt dammit
>I'll never use that pesky "computer", just use a typewriter like a sensible person
>I'll never use that pesky "internet", it's just a fad
>I'll never use that pesky "digital camera", just use a regular camera like a normal person
>I'll never use that pesky "AI", only indians use those <------- YOU ARE HERE
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>>109002364
They don't want to work and thought they would all become famous artists.
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>>109003102
So you can only tell if you know?
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>>109005344
No no you see, AI is based and you're a Woke Fag!
(This post is sponsored by a cryptonigger)
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>>109003744
Is that the Climate Protest Emergency Hologram MK I??
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>>109002679
>It's very depressing that even the young are anti-tech now.
No, it's beautiful. Being anti-AI is the finest expression of humanity we've seen in decades. Decades! I only wish we would all collectively go further and outright ban AI and abolish datacenters. It's a struggle for the very soul of our species and there's no lengths to which we shouldn't go to outright crush AI and the freaks who are forcing it on us.
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Because everything done with AI is absolutely soulless.
I've done a couple of projects at work and I feel no attachment towards them, I don't find any kind of "pride" about my work and acting as a digital tard wrangler is extremely boring.
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>>109002364
>the wealth we've gained over the past decades
Kek, nice one OP, made me chuckle
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>>109004734
you should get ai to help you with your poor english; then at least your spam wouldn't stand out due to idiosyncratic mistakes.
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>>109002421
good job, you reacted to ragebait, i'm sure you're proud to be among the most gullible and easily-controllable morons.
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>>109002364
i never understood it either. I'd love to hear an actual intelligent argument from the anti AI people. It is as though they think every time they see something created with AI that means it replaced something handcrafted, but thats of course not the case. AI just gave us more art it didn't replace the rate of handcrafted art being created.
People always want to ban AI from subreddits and such, why? isn't it just more art?

>b-but i just dont like the way it looks
thats fine but it doesn't explain why you are so hostile towards it or why you cant simply *ignore* it like you would anything else you dont like.

It seems to me the actual reason is they feel diminished, they dont feel as special anymore being the only ones who can produce artwork. The feeling is justified but imagine being a horse cart guy back in the day trying to ban cars. Imagine trying to deprave humanity of such a gift & advance in technology so that you can still feel special.
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This whole thead proves that everyone on /g/ is a cocksucking faggot.
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>>109002364
>I want to learn to do something cool with my adulthood
Sorry lil nig, that shit's gay and over. Here's $1000 to get your Uber driving career started
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>>109006949
very good argument anon
intellectually right on par with every other anti-ai faggot out there, good job
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>>109006966
let's see all the valuable things you have genned
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>>109004113
This isn't people providing wrong explanations for correct intuition though. It's people hallucinating things to justify their baseless claims. They hate AI because of emotional reasons but they choose to lie it's rational.
An unbiased, rational person wouldn't feel the need to find things they can't even be certain about.
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Kane lucked out and became a multi-millionaire in his 20's. He hates genAI as his fancy VFX skills are no longer as valuable thanks to it, yet he still has obtained generational wealth early on in his life and is still making millions off of his series that he only has thanks to one /x/ post. Not only did no one care about his original concept story, it's not what made him the big bucks either.

He can take his champagne socialist virtue signaling and shove it deep up his own ass.
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>>109006972
are you implying that no one has ever genned anything that *anyone* (absolutely anyone) hasn't found useful? not even in the slightest?

>no im implying YOU havent
we are not arguing my personal use of AI faggot
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>>109004247
>questionable inherent value
If it had no inherent value then all these people wouldn't be so afraid of AI replacing them.

>aggressively sold to bagholders
Who is the bag holder? OpenAI? Deepseek? Maybe the FOSS self hosting devs.

>hype cycles leveraging extreme FOMO
How can it be an extreme FOMO if it's not going away any time soon?

>skeptics are luddites
I have never seen people not buying NFTs being called luddites

Are you sure you aren't mixing things up?
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>>109002992
More girldick for me. I'll probably get more pussy than you ever will too, if you get any at all, trans or not trans. It's a win win.
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>>109006995
nope, just you
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>>109006983
People don't have to do a fucking scientific meta-analysis to start associating AI with low-effort and deceptive shit.
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>>109006997
Are you getting pleasure from this?
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>>109007033
>People don't have to do a fucking scientific meta-analysis to start associating AI with low-effort and deceptive shit.
Agreed. However they have to be pretty stupid to look at art and hallucinate things that aren't there just to pose as if they did scientific meta analysis. Just so their take looks more credible.

>>109007036
I guess it's better than staring at trees and cars while I'm coming back with groceries.
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>>109002364
AI is not the problem. The slop was there before AI. AI just made it faster and easier to produce.
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>>109007062
>However they have to be pretty stupid to look at art and hallucinate things
They aren't aware of your butthurt posts about them, and never will be.
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>>109007079
>They aren't aware of your butthurt posts about them, and never will be.
Thanks captain obvious
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>>109002364
You're a retarded zoomer if you don't think '90s were better.
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My take. Nobody else seems to say this except me. Trying to replicate human made art and art styles with AI is boring. A waste of GPU cycles. The technology is exciting. The possibilities are immense. But I also think shrimp jesus is more interesting than your shitty fetish art you spam the internet with. At least pure slop is distinctive in it's own way that isn't aping some kind of human style. When I see some Ghibili piss filter bullshit I think poorly of the person who shared it. I don't like seeing garish AI shit in advertisements for local businesses either. I'm less likely to frequent your establishment if you use it. Find an actual interesting and novel use for this. Don't bore me.
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>>109007088
So who are you arguing with?
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>>109007094
Every legitimate metric for progress is higher now than it has ever been in the past. AI is responsible for 95% of all gains since 2022.
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>>109002364
ai is the promise to take our futur jobs without doing anything for us in return. no one wants to be homeless
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>>109006995
If you can’t tell us what you’ve made then it’s garbage by default.
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>>109007110
what metrics? i can't afford things i used to be able to afford, i have fewer employment prospects, everyone is more depressed than ever, and crime is obviously up
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So much anti-anti-AI rhetoric is trying too hard not to be Reddit, failing at 4chan contrarianism, and ends up circling back to something worse, Facebook.
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>>109004824
>t. unemployed basement dweller
also the fact that you're able to enjoy art and music created by ai is a clear sign of mental retardation
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AI art is utterly disposable, whereas true artists make immortal works.
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the only problem with AI is that it makes passable things which encourage people to post
if you make a shitty ms paint drawing you know its shit because its very obvious how shitty it is, so people dont post it, with AI the shittyness is more subtle, coupled with the fact that its something people would've never been able to dream to be able to do that just encourages people to post it, so again as its always the case, the problem is never the tool but the user, mspaint didn't cause a flood of shitty art, neither did AI, people did it because of how people's mind work
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>>109007140
how terminally online do you have to be to think shit like this
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>>109007235
If you aren't terminally online what the fuck are you doing on this board, on this website, posting in this kind of thread? Might as well quit while you're ahead. It's all downhill from here.
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Their instincts are right. Fresh graduates are the first to go. Workers with some years of experience are next.
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>>109002364
did you know that he's only 20 years old???
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>>109002364
It's literally the way openai and claude advertised their product. They could have said: "this will make everyone 10x more productive at their jobs." What they actually said was "this will replace 90% of jobs." Why wouldn't the average normie hate it?
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>>109007267
It's a good thing I can't be replaced with some rando then. I was already doing my job all by myself. Not as a part of a team. I have made extensive use of AI even when it was far shittier than it is now. Yet writing the prompts I write would require someone to have a deep understanding of the things I do. If someone else without my specialized knowledge tried to do it they would need to constantly grill the LLMs on topics I already know everything there is to know about and have a network of like minded people feeding me information about new developments concerning them.

tl;dr Don't be some generic code monkey. Specialize in something.
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>>109006462
Who is AI art really made for? If I wanted AI art I can do it myself in 2 clicks. I don't need to see your creation when it's easily replicated with zero effort. If you want to use AI that's fine but I just wish they would keep their gens to themselves. don't spam the internet with it.

People who like AI art have never genuinely created a piece of art from scratch. If you start doing so you quickly realize the time and effort involved in making art is substantial. How every line and lack of line you put on a page is intentional. Slot machine pulls from a diffusion model does not compare in the slightest. It's a genuine lack of effort and the result is "ehh that's cool enough" and then they proceed to spam the Internet with it.
You can't simply just ignore it. when I try to look up photos of art from a famous artist and instead the image results are flooded with AI gens in the style of that artist.

Also the take on the horse cart guy analogy is dumb. Guys we are not the carriage driver in this scenario, we are the horse. Taken to it's logical conclusion it's automating human effort in its entirety.

Also, take this as a thought experiment, would you post on a forum that's 80% AI generated comments and posts? It's more text to read and you could just ignore it right? Would you have even made that post if the only people reading and replying would be AI bots? That should help you figure out the importance of the human element in the humanities. And why people generally disengage with AI generated content.
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>>109007102
With the anon who claimed these people's intuition was correct. It wasn't, it was just bunch of manufactured lies presented in order to dress up a purely emotional take as rational and logical conclusion.
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>>109007213
They say a photo is worth a thousand words but art speaks to the soul in a way words alone never can.
AI art says exactly what's in the prompt you feed it and not much else.
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>>109007371
people's intuition tends to be correct, as in people can now detect ai a mile away.
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>>109007329
Slophogs and NPCs. Think of your average CoD player or Mcdonalds customer. They don't give a fuck about the quality: you could feed the ground up sawdust and compost as long as it was seasoned with enough salt and butter, they just want to experience some vague emotion for 30 minutes and move on with their irrelevant lives.

The real use case for AI, by the elites, is destroying the public discourse and making obtaining knowledge and wealth impossible outside of belonging to already established wealth and prestige. Look at youtube: do people even bother trying to discover new content creators amongst all the AI slop, or do they just go to their familiar watering holes like MrBeast for entertainment?
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>>109003233
The AI pusher is a spam bot? Who woulda thunk?
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>>109007630
Remember opposing datacenters is a bipartisan belief among republican, independent, and democrat americans. Something that is unheard of in the modern era. 70% of americans dislike AI generative slop. The people pushing this shit on you HAVE to be bots or indians. It is statistically impossible otherwise.
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>>109002364
AI is for tasteless people.
Imagine Trump making his "memes". This is the average AI user intelligence.
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>>109005819
Model bias makes everything look the same, just reskinned, like the same joke being told over and over. Fuck you as well.
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>>109007690
Better a tranny than a pig eating slop
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>>109007553
It clearly wasn't correct in this case which casts doubt on people's ability to detect ai.
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>>109007702
maybe you're blind
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>>109002364
Because they were raised without fathers making them highly prone to para social relations with influencers so they're basically all brainwashed shock troopers for whatever tik tok kike they find themselves aligned with.
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>>109007831
Better to be raised without a father than to have a father that let you grow up to become a /pol/ poster lmao
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>>109002381
You're right, I can tell those replies were ai generated.
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>>109007950
>HEE HEE
>I LIED TO YOU AND POISONED THE WELL
>OWNED!!!!
>w-wait, why do people want me out of their country!?! fucking luddites are so aggressive! racist! chud! aiphobic!
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>>109007950
>intentionally scamming others is... GOOD!
why is AI so spiritually indian? Why can't you just admit when you're using AI?
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>>109007073
this isn't an ai picture, except the poster for some reason
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>>109007136
his investment in NVDA
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>>109007724
Whenever I'm blind or not doesn't change the facts.
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>>109008093
>>109008125
the point is that you retards can't differentiate between ai and human art
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>>109002364
openai?
More like oppai
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>>109008603
You can tell via consistency. AI art cannot be consistent due to its nature: prompters are converting their vision into instructional words to direct an AI to draw, which is converting those words into images. Artists can be consistent because they directly translating what's in their minds to an image.

You can't tell from individual pieces in a vacuum, but you'll notice because the art direction and cohesion will be awful and generic in anything made by AI.
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>>109002364
why do souless npcs not understand others?
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>>109008668
I'm not sure if it's still true since I don't generate images myself, but that sounds like the complaint about hands not generating properly
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>>109002381
Show multiple actual ai examples, from the same model. Each one has an artifacting/bias that is more apparent the more you see.
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>>109002421
Morphological freedom will be a human right.
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>>109002364
Sirs what the fuck is he talking about?
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>>109008904
Unironically true. The transhumanist movement will come back with a vengeance soon. AI, regardless of if the bubble pops, will make genetic engineering and biomodding easier to the masses.
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> A director

Keep in mind that 95% of AI hate is based on the threat of taking jobs. Which is understandable from a personal PoV, but it says nothing about long-term pros/cons of AI for humanity as a whole. Just like horse breeders hating on cars said nothing substantial about longterm pros/cons of automobiles for humanity.

The other 5% of AI haters are doomer crackpots like Yudkowsky.
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>>109008668

Skill issue. Chronicles of Bone is made by a competent AI artist and does not suffer from consistency issues.
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>>109009093
go to america and tell me earnestly cars were a net good for society
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>>109009153

Cars were a net good for society. Modern society would be impossible without cars. It's not the fault of cars that Americans always take shit to the extreme.
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>>109009185
> Modern society would be impossible without cars.
We could absolutely get where we are with trains.
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>>109009202
trains only go certain places with a car you can go anywhere
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>>109009093
>Keep in mind that 95% of AI hate is based on the threat of taking jobs
I've only heard complaints about it deleting water molecules from existence, actually. Two years ago there were a few visual artists who cared but that seems to have died down.

I haven't seen people actually repeating the "AI replacement" thing outside corporate. Besides, the left doesn't really care about jobs since infinity immigration is a stance they can't abandon and the right doesn't believe it's AI taking jobs in the first place.
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>>109009093
You can't blame people for getting explosively, violently angry when almost every AI company is gloating about how you will own nothing and live in the pod, and will die in the permanent underclass.

>>109009139
Yeah, it's pretty good, but he's also not lying about using AI and seems to want to tell an actual story here. You need to understand that the majority of AI users aren't people with an eye for quality, and are just rentseekers looking to make something as cheaply as possible, as fast as possible. Think of how much garbage was made with gamemaker, or how many asset flips are on the steam store now. Curating AI content is going to quickly spiral out of control. FOSS is already dealing with a tsunami of bad AI code that is ultimately going to destroy open-source in the long run.

People don't like it, but you need to have gatekeeping on some level.
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>>109007203
kek based
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>>109002381
Remember in 2012 when you could troll someone by posting the guy from Predator and pretending it was Joseph Kony? Man, those were the days.
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>>109002364
I support AI, I heavily encourage AI usage
I actually put around 1k bucks monthly in different AI subs without using them (in order to no put data pressure on the AI companies). I invest in the Mag7 every month as well and will invest in Anthro and Openai when they IPO.

I'm in my mid 20's btw. FUCK artists and FUCK anti AI faggots. I enjoy seeing them seethe unironically and will do anything (including dying for AI) for it.
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All I'm seeing here is people who don't use AI can't get pussy.
I work from home generating slop romance novels to sell on amazon, and make more money than most nerds.
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>>109009436
are you getting enough to get by or to live comfortably? I didn't think books sell enough for that unless you're more well known
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>>109009384
funniest part is this nigga is still at large
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>>109009139
Looked up the prologue and scrubbed through the video without any audio, I won't deny that it looks good and consistent, but going through it the only scenes I saw were of a close up of 1 person talking and it switching to different people over and over. Nothing else visually happened for the entire 15 minutes.
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>>109009492
Just scrubbed through chapter 2 and it's similar. There is more variation but then when larger scenes start playing out that's where the uncanny physics and faces start popping up.
That's not even getting into the audio and writing that I didn't get into.

My point is that stuff like this really just shouldn't be made, if you lack the skill to do various things in an art medium then you lack the ability to make good ideas. Because good ideas come from the labor of creating.
Do you think grandma with little to no usage of computers can come up with a ground breaking idea for an app? That would be nonsense. Or do you think a person who plays video games all day without ever having touched a line of code come up with a good game idea? I really doubt it.
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>>109002364
art^2 lacks human soul
art^2 depends entirely on existing artists' work without compensation
art^2 displaces artists

if all you care about is that something looks like a e.g. ghibli film, but don't care about supporting the people that actually make ghibli films, you are brown
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>>109009492
>>109009582
That's just cope
Keep in mind AI gen has only kept improving year by year. Games took like 30 years to look realistic.
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>>109009639
The film is just uninteresting, do you want to watch a film for 30+ minutes of shots of 1 person talking? And the camera changing. You could do much more with AI gems, but it shows the guy doesn't really understand cinematography or what makes a compelling film because he probably has never done one.
By your defense it doesn't even seem like you watched it. You just saw woah it looks cool and this is the power of AI and closed out of it probably because you were bored as well.
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>>109002364
If you played a modern game in the last 5 years you supported AI btw
Especially if its Japanese (they literally flaunt it on their financial reports)
If you're an artist creating art for their games, you're indirectly supporting them as well btw
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>>109008659
Post a single thing you have created for yourself then. Let's see the incredible stuff you are exposing yourself to
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>>109006999
gay
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>>109009841
Nah, bi. I like pussy. I like dick. I'll fuck you, your sister, your mom, and your dad. All at the same time.
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>>109002693
>generation that doesn't want to be slaves of soulless tech giants.
@grok who owns instagram and tiktok, and who are their biggest users?
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>>109007118
If everyone is homeless, no one is.
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I just watched a video on the state of the education system in the USA and boy you guys are fucked.

Zoomer parents who can't write. Late teens who can't read. students using AI LLMs to do school work for them...
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>>109002777
Just read Kurzweils books. It's all inevitable anyway. We've leaves in the wind
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>>109009589
>depends entirely on existing artists' work without compensation
everything depends on previous artist works you retarded fuck. When will you understand this?
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>>109002750
Everything you've said is moronic and what he said is true. >>109002723
> I don't like tech that makes people's lives worse.
purely subjective. Everything is a tool for humans its like saying you hate technology because rockets fly us to the moon but we shouldn't bother because they make bombs as well.
>>109010714
100% its very retarded that most people for whatever reason have such myopic views of technology. People complained about computers and the internet just like they do about AI.
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>>109003775
>"conserve" traditional art,
Is there any art past 1900 this is even worth conserving?
This is the example of """""art"""""" that is soooooo deeeepp broo it means something and has layers of onion meanings.
Burn art fags, defecate on art fags, slamdunk an art fag in to a fire pit.
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>>109006983

What it really is - some twitter-dweller baited other twitter-dwellers with opposing views and then cherrypicked the dumb comments to make their case look good. It takes 2 seconds to do a reverse image search or to run it through various online ai-detection tools. Statistically at least one person did this, but since twitter use revolves around pavlovian kneejerk shouting over political topics there is a guarantee enough people will fall for your trap.

There are plenty of good arguments on both sides of the ai debate, but having constructive discussions was never the goal of twitter, at least in its present form. AI hate can often be irrational, but so is AI-evangelism. I've seen enough "ai artists" bragging about how real artists are obsolete because they see the computer producing high-detail rainbow slop with decent lighting and assume it's "good art" because they have no taste or frame of reference for what good art actually is.
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>>109010950
The art piece worked because it provoked the exact reaction the artist expected out of you. You bit the bait. You probably should have conversated with your shatbot before exposing yourself as a retard. In fact he did what you're trying to do now, make an outrageous over the top message meant to troll.
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>>109002381
So what? Those are criminals being criminals, nothing but lies and evil come from them.
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When op says the 1950s he actually just means 5 years ago, keep this in mind.
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>>109010950
aitards and their strawmanning lol
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>>109002364
>takes someone else's idea and gets famous from it
>but ai is le bad btw
in my humble opinion he's a kike and an industry plant. a24 was never good, it's just about marketing to retards who think they'll look smart if they consume the culture.
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>>109011347
What is the straw man here? I am showing examples of the """"art""""" that art fags want to "conserve".
You can't say it is art back then and then deny its existence when it makes you all look like retards today.

Take this """""lovey""""" fountain.
The way he scribbled on it, really tells you something about the universe and the duality of man and the struggles of Congoneese dirt farmers.
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>>109010950
bad art is like bad publicity.

that is to say, you're still talking about it, so it worked.
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>>109011424
predictable
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>>109011368
I just thought about this thanks for this post fucking hilarious.
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>>109002364
Weird how these same people are fine with chatgpt but they draw the line at stable diffusion.
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>>109011424
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>>109002417
>AI chuds comparing themselves to troons and furfags
Lol go on
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>>109009476
well yeah, he's invisible
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>>109011368
He adapted an internet meme that was around 20 words and a picture. Nobody actually views this as stealing.
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>>109011576
It is exactly that. It is stealing. Fucking ironic anti-AI faggots should just kill themselves.
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>>109011589
It isn't exactly that. It isn't stealing. Fucking unironic anti-anti-AI faggots should stop screeching as much as anti-AI faggots.
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>>109011600
hm ironic
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>>109011589
find a personality besides ai enthusiasm
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>>109002381
A artist doesn't try to make something indistinguishable from a Monet painting. That's art counterfeiters. Artists develop their own style, which AI doesn't really do yet. If we had generative AI instead of Monet, there would never have been a "Monet" style to ask the AI to generate paintings in.
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>>109011651
I swear to god they're worse than troons or early 2010s tumblr sjws. You WILL hear about AI and you WILL hear about why you need to consume its output 24/7.
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>>109011614
lol anti-ai retards don't get it.
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>>109011657
I ain't reading all that but I fed it to an llm and this is what it had to say:

This individual exhibits classic Luddite tendencies, reflexively rejecting technological progress out of fear of obsolescence, while displaying projected gender dysphoria through obsessive comparisons to 'troons' as a defense mechanism against his own unresolved identity conflicts.
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>>109002679
We've killed bad tech before. Genetic engineering, etc.
Sure it comes with some loss but we still did it for good reasons.
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>>109011698
>We've killed bad tech before. Genetic engineering, etc.
HAHAHAHAHA WRONG!
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>>109004791
So young people know better?
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>>109002996
why dont you ask grok?
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>>109011651
find a personality besides being a luddite before you start shitting your pants over ai niggers making fun of you.
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>>109010794
there's a difference between imitaing the artist you admire while developing your own skill, and data mining entire portfolios to train a model to slop up some dogslop, slopper
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>>109011791
Thats wrong entire styles are copied just how data mining is done you retard. AI is the same as human imitation the only difference is humans are better at it currently. Stop being a fucking moron. I also don't believe that humans will ever be beat out by AI because humans love imperfections. Humanity will always love human artist more. Just don't be a dumb nigger like 99% of anti-AI retards making up bullshit because you feel inadequacy about your shitty art
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>>109011817
mmmm... slop slop slop, just can't stop!
i'm off to play my fiddle, slopster
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>>109011817
You have never done art in your life. You could literally trace an image from an artist and it would come out differently. You could spend thousands of hours studying an artist and it would still have your visual voice come out in subtle ways
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>>109011990
you are a real retard.
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>>109011990
Kek, this makes a stronger case for AI because it doesn't fully replicate an art piece. Thus proving it actually learns like humans lmao
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>>109012064
not him, but i feel sorry for you
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>>109012089
I don't feel anything for you, loser.
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>>109012077
The problem is scale of the machines. Artist plagiarizers are few and far between because of the immense amount of time and skill needed to do so. Now anyone can rev up a model and ingest their work into it and output convincing copies.
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>>109004113
If their intuition was worth a shit they would've been able to realize it's not an AI painting or that monet just isn't special sometimes. Also yes they got placebo'd that it was bad, that was the whole point of the exercise. If you really appreciate something you can't be placebo'd that it sucks. Like if you saw a big juicy cock picture and your friend says that's gay, it's not going to stop you.
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>>109012122
Nice moving of the goal posts. Just face it art is now democratized. You can no longer gatekeep skill.
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>>109012144
You are a soulless creature that wants no economic mobility in any creative endeavor. The elites yank the ladder up and you cheer as your just glad everyone else gets to suffer in the permanent underclass.
>>109012064
This is not an argument.
>>109012105
And this is just pathetic.
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>>109009856
>Nah, bi
If you're a dude, it's the same thing. In fact it's actually worse, because you're risking spread of all your horrible man-ass diseases to unsuspecting women.
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>>109012170
So that's the real reason you want to gate keep art, so you can just gain an economic advantage. You are not guaranteed anything in life. You should've learned a trade, but instead you felt like you deserve a cushy creative job in a fake economy. I have no sympathy for you.
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>>109012208
>because I suffer everyone should as well!
Yeah and when creative jobs get automated away there's going to be a lot of educated people trying to grab any job including yours. Soon master's degrees are going to be required to be a plumber. When everyone floods the market.
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was going to write something about this idea I had but did an experiment instead
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>>109012176
Implying I'd ever fuck someone like you without a condom, let alone random women. Shit if I banged you I'd want to be sure I was on the PrEP.
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>>109012170
Look I gave you a concession with human art because you are right at least in humans having a soul attribute to art. However you not being able to see how you are wrong is why you will be left behind luddite and most likely a retard. Oh and I am sure as the years go on you will just say "oh yeah I always liked AI its great" as it becomes apart of even your every day life even if you like it or not. Its funny how anti-AI retards will never give an inch. You are no better then the conservatives you claim to hate.
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>>109012282
>you will be left behind luddite
What does that mean though? What does it mean to be left behind? Take me through your vision of this.
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"AI" is just workforce automation. Unless you're on the right side of that deal, it would be silly for you to not hate AI or at least be anything more than indifferent about it.
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>>109012328
It comes down to this. I don't know why people do this. They cheer for their own self destruction. AI actively makes your life worse unless you have heavy investments into it. And why are you cheering? Is it to LARP as an artist, musician, or programmer? Is that worth destroying any chance at climbing the economic ladder?
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>>109012300
you are a bot. no way in hell i see you responding to the most random shit talking exactly like this. I think you should stick with reddit where you belong.
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>>109012397
Not an argument. AI sloppers always say you'll be left behind what does that mean? I think it means that sloppers can type things into a shatbot like every other person with the capability of language.
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>>109012404
No it means they'll be able to augment their creative process with specific AI tooling in places luddites have no idea the existence of.
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>>109012420
So you're telling me some indian in bangalore with shatgpt can make creative breakthroughs in fields he has no knowledge of? Just because he proompts no mistakes?
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>>109012350
Economic ladder? You selfish faggot. Help your brother and stop being culturally jewish
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>>109012425
Help your brother? The tools are there dude. Just learn a creative skill which anyone could have done with self determination, hard work and resources such as the internet. I believe these traits are not jewish, it's just the fact that you want gibs me dats for work you didn't perform. Well now that path is drying up as AI can just replicate what you made in 10 seconds so no one will pay you for anything anymore. And now you can work for your jewish overlords in the mines to get materials to build more data centers. Enjoy.
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>>109003057
does it include disgust, disdain, or disapproval?
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>>109012442
You can virtue signal all you want and pretend we care about your sexual preferences but we already know you have the trap threads on /b/ and /gif/ open in other tabs.
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>>109012397
Yeah it's no fun when your talking to a suspected bot, right you wouldn't want human spaces to be flooded with bots right? They should move somewhere else like reddit right? It seems like the writing loses all meaning when it's written by a bot.
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>>109012453
you cant tell the difference between AI genning and a fucking AI bot. figures
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>>109012459
Break that down for me. Seriously, using chatgpt to write your posts vs write your book, or make a picture. How is that so different?
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>>109002364
I personally don't hate generative AI because it could be used to replace artists but I am against it because it WILL be used as a way to make sure the elite will never be held accountable. Any actual footage of politicians fucking kids will be dismissed in court as AI generated and the dissenters of the elite will be charged over AI generated footage of them having sex with underage girls. Fake footage of warcrimes will be generated to push nations to go to war in ways that benefits corporations.
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>>109010950
Not many, but they exist.
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>>109003653
it does though
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>>109009337
>he's one of the good ones!
Is this like a reverse No True Scottsman?
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>>109010950
well yes, a fuckton, but the fact that well techniqued art existed before modern tools, and in many cases have been decently preserved, makes it as much a marvel of history and anthropology as much as a work of art.
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>>109012468
It's almost like when someone argues that AI is bringing down the standards of media, I respond the same way
>OK but they didn't need AI to do that, they were going to do it anyway, right?
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>>109012560
Come on now, AI breakthroughs be damned the standards of media have always went down. Look at Teen Titans Go over the original Teen Titans, for example.
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>>109012905
>muh cartoons!
Teen Titans Go's jackass humor was funny and it's even funnier that it still makes manchildren seethe
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>>109012911
Oh for fucks sake even outside the context of cartoons it can be seen.

Example: The Star Wars franchise has perpetually gone down in quality. So how has LOTR and anything made to represent Tolkien's work, it gets watered down. Classroom experiences are now gamified instead of learning from coursework.
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>>109012922
The new He-Man movie was good
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>>109006983
>>109012123
Humans are inherently irrational creatures and the way that the world is perceived is always affected by the individual's physiological and emotional state. Hence why anons (especially poltards) are always convinced that a everything is bad, evil and stupid: because they themselves are in a perpetual state of sadness and impotent rage.
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>>109012144
>Just face it art is now democratized. You can no longer gatekeep skill.
This has to be bait. It really does.
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>>109010950
Where did the painter touch you, what painter hurt you anon... tell us... is mustache man returning?
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AI hate is completely rarional given that 99% of normie interaction with AI is negative. From AI slop pictures and videos on social media, bot posts on comment sections, ugly and soulless advertisments, scams and con artists. Plus the fact that every AI CEO looks like a reptilian and they openly brag about eliminating jobs or genociding humanity. What "rational" reason is there to be pro-AI exactly?
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>>109013922
and they openly brag about eliminating jobs
You mean like you did to the Coal miners
>Learn to code
You said to them as mockery.
How about i say to you now
>Do you want fries with that?
Get used to saying that line art fags.
You should have stood hand in hand with blue collar workers and defended them to the last.
>And there was nobody left to speak for me.



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