Classics never go out of style editionprev >>108933367>Keyboard recommendation template:https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V>Find vendorshttps://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptionshttps://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)>Learn about MX-type switches ("mechanical keyboard switches")https://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guidehttps://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviewshttps://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves>Split and non-standard layout resourceshttps://compare.splitkb.comhttps://keyboard-design.com>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)>Practice typinghttps://monkeytype.comhttps://keybr.comhttps://thetypingcat.comhttps://play.typeracer.com>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not idealhttps://rentry.org/mkg_backlight
>>109002910Troonboards for troons
it's easy to mock MX Browns as linears, but keep in mindthey're an acquired taste
Base: keyboard is a chink prebuilt mechanical, one year old. Light linears but can hardly said to be abused. Preinstalled foam layers.Problem: certain keys not functioning properly/consistently without hard press, one (A) stopped functioning entirely recently even when pressed all the way. Some keys like function keys are hardly ever used and yet also affected. Problem switches noticeably wiggle/twist a fair bit in their sockets.Solution: swapping switches around AND doing a tiny bit of bendy-twisty on the pins to make them touch contacts more aggressively, both switches in each exchange.Observation: Keys that had unreliable function now work correctly with donor switches. "Bad" switches function correctly (mostly) in their new sockets. Both do not wiggle as much as before, but the ones in the "bad sockets" definitely still move.Are the switches to blame for being poor quality or it is a poor PCB with loose socket contacts? Or both? And yes, I'm not an /mkg/ regular, I don't have spare switches just lying around to test with. But I will if I don't just swap to a new board.
>>109004036It could both be the sockets or switches. You could try Gaterons or other proper switches with thicker/better pins(get the 5 pin ones). If that doesn't work then it's the sockets/pcb.
>>109004217I'll need to look at them again but I don't think there's space for that many, its 2 copper pins + the switch nub and the rest of the socket is a flat face, or at least that's what it looked like to me. Info on the board online says its 5 pin compatible though. Guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and get a handful of alternative switches to test before considering replacing the whole thing. More pins must be more resistant to rotating around.
>>109004236It's probably not 5-pin compatible if there aren't two spaces on either side of the big middle hole for the additional plastic legs. That doesn't matter much though, you can convert any switch to 3-pin by just snipping those little plastic legs off with flush cutters or nail nippers.The extra pins do help with stability but are intended mainly for keyboards with no switch-plate. Very niche.
>>109002910Recommend me a good keyboard.Preferably a keyboard looking like the one in the op pic with rgb lighting so I can turn off but still read the keys.Quiet but reactive buttons would be nice too.
>>109004036just get a Mechlovin PCB and Mill-Max it with 3305-1maybe replace the Chinee prebuilt for a Neo as well
>>109004561get a Waveform over your head so you don't have to rely on backlit shite
stop living in the MODERN AGERVTURN to the CHALCOLITHIC AGE
>>109002934I did get to like them a little while i put them on my split, maybe it was the wrist angle or overall arm position that made them feel just right, I am thinking of swapping springs and see if anything changes
>>109004982it will make all the difference in the worldsprings are cheap, try a half dozen of them from SPRiT/Geon/TXlube em straight in the bag with 105 (check YT for a tutorial) and you'll have your perfect spring testI like em at 60g 18mm from TX, will try some other weights and heights later
Any GOOD full hot-swappable keys keyboard and mouse combo?
>>109005032lol
>>109004561Classic TKL
>>109004541There are some Gaterons with 3 pins, since snipping all those nubs sounds like a nightmare
>>109002910Just buy Topre.
>>109002910>Do What does that do?
>>109005891pretty obvious what it meansif we take >>109002925 as a point of reference
>keychron k1 pro>keys feel like damp sponge>gateron switches snapped by the force of me pulling off the keycaps so i had to buy a new set of replacement switchesive literally tore keycaps off my cherry mx board with my fingers for over a decade and they've never broken, this sucks
>>109005032Hot-swap in mice is like the PS5 Edge meme. Companies cut costs as much as they can, saving less than a penny per switch by giving (You) shit that fails within months, then they come out with a magical solution where you can replace the failing part yourself with the same part that'll quickly fail, all at a markup.While in reality all that they'd need to fix it is to stop being a bunch of penny pinching kikes, use switches/potentiometers that don't fail within two months, and we wouldn't have this problem. At least in case of mice it's relatively easy to replace the failing switches with better quality ones yourself if you have basic soldering equipment and skills. Not that expensive, not that hard and they come in very handy.
>>109004541>>109004847I've gotten a chance to pull and check; they are in fact 5 pin sockets. So there will be no problems here, just have to wait for switches to arrive and before that consider which ones to order. Might as well get a full TKL count since if it turns out its the board that's bad I can just get another barebones and work from there. Man, not really happy with this one even though the shape is just right, not that there are very many ways to make a TKL.
>>109006958Kailh hot-swap sockets were never the problem. Just take the PCB out and support the socket on a flat surface before installing switchesThe real issue is people who think they can brute-force a switch in and then wonder why they ripped a solder pad off the PCB
I got two sets of cheap PBT double shot keycaps from the same manufacturer (same series, different secondary layouts) and they look slightly different, one is brownish another is bluish, neither look quite as black as ABS under direct bright light.Is that a PBT thing? afaik many types of plastics are very hard to make deep black or white (while preserving their properties and price).Or did I just get chinked?
>>108997825>Euroniggas, is there somewhere that makes keycaps with various languagesI'm new to this and I'm dumbfounded by this also.As far as I can tell Keychron sell keycaps, so maybe you can just get an iso set and keep the backspace etc. keys that you can't change? you'd have to match colors in that case
>>109007449What I meant is that they're a meme as they're the wrong solution to an existing problem. Unless your problem is being able to easily test various mouse switches, but let's be honest, there's very little variety in those and usually what people care about is being able to change your switches once they start double-clicking. Which, again, wouldn't be a problem if companies like Logitech stopped cutting corners on absolutely everything on their $100 mice and when it happens, it's just two pins to de-solder, and you should have some basic soldering skills and know how to fix shit on your own instead of forever being a slave to the corporation's whims.
based Geonthe plebs shall not have TRVE Hyperfuse colors
Why is this single fucking key mixing light? Should be white. Could the LED be fucked already OOB?
>blacks>on>alu
I have a ASUS STRIX Tactic Pro. It's a decade old now. There was times when it started double clicking, I just clean it with a manual air pump and alcohol to fix it.But now it has multiple double clicking/not clicking switches. I just bought a cheap Logitech keyboard.What should I do with the ASUS STRIX Tactic Pro. I could replace/solder the bad switches, but I don't really have time for that.I used the macro keys at work before AI took my job.
>>109011660>but I don't really have time for thatBuying a new keyboard is the only option then.
Buy white keycapsBuy black keycapsZebra pattern!
anyone have experience with wireless volume dials and build quality?
>>109002910I keep pressing help but no help arrives
my Corsair K70 finally crapped out on me and I want to dip my toes more into mechanical keyboardsBudget: ~100 USDLocation: North AmericaSwitch type: LinearLayout: ANSIForm factor: 100%Backlight: Per-key preferable but i don't really carePrevious keyboard: Corsair k70 w/ silver switchesPreferably I want a wired keyboard I just don't like wireless
>>109011660>I could replace/solder the bad switches, but I don't really have time for that.Throw it in a closet or garage and fix it when you have time
>>109011939Get a cheap FiiO USB DAC instead of a volume wheelIf what you're after is specifically a Surface Dial, I don't think there's anything really like it
fucking hellKraze 65!
>he doesn't bag-abrade MX Blacks with sand for maximum scratch
>>109011939What >>109012184 said, best to get a USB DAC with a hardware volume knob. Then you keep your system volume at 100% and have a hard limiter on the DAC itself, it's a better way to do it IMO. You won't get your ears raped if some program or your OS decides that your volume should be at 100% for whatever reason, and you won't have any issues with barely audible audio on recordings or screen shares.
FiiO's USB DACs are idealbut check out portables similar to the Lotoo Paw S1, nothing less than thatthe S1 is S tier I fucking love it
Is keychron still the "just buy one if you cbf building it yourself" keyboard?Also I'm suddenly interested in a USB DAC/AMP myself. Which FiiO do I get? K5? K7? K11?
>>109013521K7the AKM one with dual AK4493SEQsavoid the ESS ones
get the PL50 linear power supply unit with it if you want to go full audiophooldon't forget the fancy XELASTEC 2 ear tips if you're using an IEM
>>109013670>a power supply at a price of a good DAC/AMP comboA good piece of audio hardware deals with filtering the mains power on it's own without needing a dedicated power supply to do the filtering for it, everything else is just snake oil that acts upon psychoacoustics rather than actual technical measurable improvement.
Anyone actually had a switch that broke after a bazillion presses?
>>109013682it's all part of the audiophool experiencethere's also the braided anaconda cables
>>109013521Yeah. You hand money over and you get a decent keyboard ottb. I have a K8 Pro that was pretty great considering it was only $140. Just got a Q3 and honestly double the price for their full metal keyboards doesn't really make sense to me. If the K or V series is good enough for you, then that's that. No helpful recomendation on the DAC as I use Focusrite stuff, but I've never really seen the point of USB equipment when doing a full XLR/6.35mm setup isn't much more expensive but is far better for scalability.
>>109013682Your gear should have a good power supply. But yes, said good power supply should already be part of whatever thing you're buying anyway, not some add-on.
>>109013762>>109013762>K8 Pro>only $140whew, retards on 4ch never cease to amaze me with their downwards spiral of retardation
>>109013788Congrats on the vaugepost anon, care to actually elaborate?
>>109013791K8 pro is $83.99 on OEM site
>>109013791logitech 17€ wired keyboard, it even has the keys you couldn't afford on your $140 keyboard
Are you guys being dicks to anon because you dont like keychron?
>>109013858Keychron is just lame for what it offersthe metal ones are crap when you can get better ones preassembledjust get a Leopold or some shit it's respectable boomer plasticKeychron just sucks
>>109013762>Just got a Q3 and honestly double the price for their full metal keyboards doesn't really make sense to me.and that is why you always go full custom when it comes to metal boardsthe custom ones feel and sound good (varies by design but mogs Cuckchron either way)
>>109013797>$140 AUD is $98 USD>Purchased it years ago when it probably cost more than now because they're winding down the K8 Pro in favour of the K8 Ultra>>109013828Yeah, I can get a $10 membrane keyborad with 160 keys. Not sure what you're trying to establish.You both just sound like you're being women because someone likes something you don't.
>text regurgitators regurgitate that we're the bestgeg
>>109014026just Cuckchron things
>>109014026the most overrated keyboard vendor with shit quality control. Blatantly astroturf on reddit
>>109014270>overrated keyboard vendorLooking at the listings here. They're more expensive than the Logitech, MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte. Why would I buy this literally who?
>>109014330they got real popular since last yearlikely from to a buttload of influencer promosthen there's the lockdown growth that carries it
>>109014013dw, you'll be set once they sell you the $278 numpad, and the $357 keys that go in between, trust the plan, retard
>>109014330Logitech uses them as the OEM for one of their more recent MX Mechanical boards, which is also why that MX Mechanical board isn't shit, for what it's worth
>>109014441Idk what kind of autistm you're projecting anon, but I'm doing just fine over here with my keyboard that I enjoy since I don't suffer a perpetual need to keep buying shit.I'm sorry that upsets you. Perhaps you could seek counseling for being such a whiny bitch.
cream of Baion
endgame
Hypersnooze lmao
>>109018209>use it again>wpm is still the same as using my mechanical keyboard
>>109002934mx browns are endgameshame stabilizers aren't solved, because that's the piece of the puzzle that still fucking sucks
I'm so tired of these shortrun boutique keyboards that could be really cool, but are grossly overpriced and never fucking ever have a 100% layout, let alone useful extras like a volume wheel/mute button.>here's your half keyboard>it has a shitty gamerfont >it's backlit but most of the keys don't have any passthrough>that'll be 250 muttbucks plus tax and shipping
endgame switch
>>109019270Yeah no shit you use mechanical keyboards for the feel and sound. Enjoyment, not actual improvement.
>>109019919there's a new one that claim they don't need any lubricationFourwraps something something
>>109019919"The best stabilizers are no stabilizers." t. split gang
Tried to copy this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XTz6xg9WEAnd ended up with tendinitis in my elbow
It's my average igalso funny how I felt like the quote I was typing out was something out of a Guy Ritchie movie, and sure enough, it was.
>>109021408how much a terminal 4channer should get from this?
>>10902142280-100 is p good ig, the world average sits around the 40's
fuck typingkeyboards are acoustic instrumentsuse an AI to generate dogshit instead of fucking up your jointsthat's what it's good at
>>109021447>instrumentnah i have mayonnaise for thatas well as horseradish
>Keychron board only about 2 months old and already starting to not register some key presses.>Started with Shift key, but now more keys are starting to get 'infected' by this>Still not used to typing on it, still making more mistakes than on membrane>Using linear switches, so typing feels very unsatisfying because the keys actuate well before you get any satisfying impact/click, but so sensitive that if you brush over them by accident they might actuate>Impact when bottoming out is too harsh, feels like I'm destroying my fingers as plastic smashes into plastic with no cushion>Surprisingly loud>Long travel time; makes typing feel tedious while also being too sensitive because fingers are moving more and slamming harder than membrane>Too scared to try other switches because this was already an expensive keyboard (imo, since I normally never spent more than 20-30 bucks on membranes) and don't want to waste money on another switch I might not like which might need extensive testing time>Testing the keys/keyboard at the store wasn't a long enough testing time; issues with typing didn't pop up until I used it for a good while>Got downward facing shinethrough keycaps because this board's LEDs are downward facing, but the light bleeding through the cracks between keys is brighter than the light shining through the caps, so it's kind of straining to look at (Need shinethrough because I'm in the dark and not a good typist)>LEDS themselves are quite bright, really distracting, but turning down the brightness makes it harder to see the letters through the caps>The only direct improvements I experienced so far are being able to change key positions around with the software and having more space on my desk due to its smaller size.I got it mainly for the smaller size (95%), and it's nice to be able to swap keys and keycaps around, but I think I might have been better off sticking with membrane. Luckily got it on sale, but it's still more than I've ever paid for a kbd
>why yes, I enjoy unlubed Blacks on hard Alu>how could you tell?
what did he mean by this?
>>109021422>>109021435I can't get above 90-95 no matter what I do. It's not that big of a deal for my everyday needs, but it would be nice if I can push it to 100
>>109022372Yeah same, I think I managed to hit over 100 once or twice, but otherwise I can't complain much about my typing speed or accuracy. It's not perfect, I keep making typos, but I'm still way faster than most people. Maybe when I'll finally get my buckling spring keyboard I'll make less typos.
holy fuck!Kraze 65!
mogs Koishit
I need more thocky
Any wireless keyboards to use with a HTPC that includes a trackball or clit mouse? I really don't like touchpads.
>>109026543https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwSQgOugNAs
>>109026774this bitch is a hackI don't value of the opinions of any eceleb that has a lower typing speed than me
>>109026543beware the thocc to cocc pipeline
Baion thocciee
>>109027064you're thinking of clack
My K120 just arrived. What am I in for?
>>109027308a perfectly average OEM membrane keyboard that gets propped up by poorfags and meme huffers on /v/ that think a logitech F310 is a good controller
filthy Baion
I don't have a fixed posture for typing comfortably fuckkk
>GMK87 >TTC Silent Bluish White hullo /mkg/, am i missing anything beside keycaps?
>>109027308shit keyboard ever since they changed the plastic quality like a decade ago
>>109026910I opened the embed link and realized I have her blocked.
>>109028117go for it
Anyone have some recommendations for blank keycaps, or printed like Wisteria but for mechanical? Under $30
>>109018209why do autistic retards on this board think they are special or unique for using cheap walmart bullshit?