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>>109008256How many Epstein clients they have arrested yet?
>>109008298All of them (that will ever be identified or arrested)
>>109008256>Starmer calls.. That man is absolutely shameless. He should have resigned a long time ago.. also don't both Google and Apple already scan your personal images and compare the hashes to known cp? What exactly are they expecting here? Just seems like a flimsy excuse to force tech companies to enable even more surveillance of people's gadgets than they already do.
>>109008256didn't know that apple and google were british
>three monthsLMAO meanwhile the government will take 5 years to pass the most benign legislation. None of these politicians live in the real world and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near technology.
>detect and block nude images on smartphone and tabletsSo scan your display every possible fucking frame? Is it uh... really the only way to 'protect' the 'children'
>>109008424you don't need any rights as long as people in a different continent do bad things
We live in a time of schizophrenic drivel governments. Of course the governments are frauds, but if they weren't they would be talking schizophrenic rubbish.
>>109008356>What exactly are they expecting here?Well we know they aren't going to actually address crime. It seems like the schizos were right all along, getting real-time total surveillance was their main goal.
>>109008256So if you have photos of your newborn child on your phone you're fucked.
>>109008689Time to go back to analog cameras.
>>109008689what kind of pervert are you to have a healthy familly ? you sick bastard
>>109008424I can't begin to explain just how horny the UK is for a surveillance state.
>>109008256I hate every living moment on this uber-raped island so much
>>109008256Need starmer out of businessIf grapheneos cant pull this shit out of aosp, I'm fucking this phone off and getting a 3210
>>109008770Sorry anon, but the source material for that image you posted is illegal there and so you're going directly to prison to be meat for Jamal.
>>109009125>jamal>in british prisonthere kind cannot be in prison in the land of the brit
>>109009158Oh no, I just meant during forced conjugal visits for cultural enrichment.
>>109008256>It's your obligation to create this technology or elseBritain is a joke
>>109008256umm. What kind of training data would that shit require? Let that sink in
in the future i want the internet only be accessible for people with a fingerprint and id scan, over the age of 25no, zoomers, you are NOT welcome on OUR internet
make owning smartphones under 18 illegal and arrest parents who don't enforce that, problem solved.
>>109009585giving parents responsabilties isn't on the program tho.what if the parents are far right extremist who don't like immigrants and terrorists or even worse, teaching them heterosexuality ? thats sad for the kids, thats why everyone must let the state do whats best for them
>>109008356Is there anyone who genuinely likes him? Even much of the Left thinks he's a cunt.
>>109008356>>109009616he's literally just talking head #772182, there's no point to even criticize him since he's only expressing the opinions of the people with their hands up his ass
Why are they so obsessed with the children?
>>109008424Apple has had this tech in their phones for over 5 years. It's forced on for child accounts and can be turned on optionally for adult accounts.A friend of mine has it turned on and I sent him a picture of some woodwork I had done. It blurred the image because it thought a fucking knot in the wood was a penis.
>>109008256>cuts sales to uk entirely >pulls all businessLmao they’re so retarded and weak it’s insane
>>109008256Wouldn't this require the companies to be able to see everything (non-encrypted) you're doing on your phones at all times as well as the UK government? Isn't this some form of government overreach and privacy invasion? What happens if you accidentally come some joke nude picture or something?
WrongThink Prevention Initiative 5000
>>109009680they won't have to pull sells, if those brits cucks can't do shit about us, what could they possibly do against google and apple ?
>>109008256
How bad do you think this will be? As a bong the OSA has largely been a nothingburger for me.
>>109008256The UK is a cucked nation. All hail the US and EU empires In all seriousness, this was bound to happen at some point. Actually, I thought that this was already in place
>>109008356no, no, this is scanning the phone for ANYTHING pornographic, and then blocking it if the face looking at the device right now is underage and tries to view it funnily enough i dont think anything they do could prevent a 15 year old from just going to 4chan.org/gif in the browser (as i did in those days)
>>109008256What happens if Apple and Google (and all the others) decide to just not sell in the UK and pull out and not work with them anymore?
>>109009811with all the porn ban across the world : twitter still exist. they do NOT care about porn
>>109008356>What exactly are they expecting heresend all pics to prince andrew to identify minors
>>109009812back to tradition
>>109008689https://archive.ph/78Pla>A Dad Took Photos of His Naked Toddler for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal.
>>109009917What kind of father films cp for their doctor.
>>109008256So what's the solution for Android users? Just root the device?
>>109010040Would a VPN work? Or does Starmer have laws against those already unless they provide logs directly to the UK government?
>>109010061Tor bypasses it easily.
>>109010090The age verifications I mean.
Communist governments around the world want to scan your phone/computer/identity so they can spy on what you're reading, what information you're getting that would contradict government narratives. This is another attempt to silence/suppress dissent voices.
>>109010040Probably yes>>109010061No>>109010101I wonder if this scans your face when you initial setup the device with an email, or if it's constantly scanning the front camera. Let's be real, if it scans the device in real-time, it is 100% doing the cameras too.
>>109009812Because they arent willing to lose billions of dollars.
>>109009812Then the UK government will be forced to create the bongphone
>>109008256Apple & Google will ignore them.Then they will be fined.The fines will be treated as a recurring business expense and the price of their products will be increased, so that Apple's and Google's customers pay the fines.Nothing ever happens.Yawn.
>>109010955>Then they will be finedexplain to me how an american company will be fined by the uk
>>109008256Being British must be suffering.
can uk be mercy killed already?it's sad to be forced to hear about them on the internet
>>109008298It's the UK Home Office, so two! Prince Andrew and Peter Mandelson so far. Suck on that, yank scum.
>>109008356The rumour is the guy knows he's cooked so is pushing for a 'landmark' regulation like this as his legacy.
>>109008424Protecting children is important. Fortunately, a lobbyist with a big moustache and fake glasses showed up, introduced himself as Steve Sboj, and suggested a wonderful way to protect the kids with only minimal supplementary benefits for the technology companies!>>109009292I had to verify my identity to look at 4chan after Apple's last update. If you refuse to scan a credit card because that's retarded, you can scan your driving licence like I did. It only asks for that, so you can actually scan anyone's driving licence. I might post mine and accept the doxxing just so everyone can use it to verify their iPhones and hundreds of people can all be identified as me.>>109009616His purpose is not to be liked; his purpose is to be so bland that the newspapers can't attack him.>>109009680I would accept this, really. Apple and Android are both cancer. If you support British entrepreneurialism, you would ban foreign smartphones and support us making our own, which currently can't compete with the duopoly.
>>109009721trvth nvke
>>109008256>The UKLol. They're barely even a country anymore. Watch them further descend into irrelevance.
>>109011086>>109009721none of this is true. many of these places don't have these corpos telling them what to do you moronic fuckhead. Corporations didnt want age verification governments did.
>>109011068My biggest problem with the ID stuff is it's all external companies with questionable security. Obviously I prefer not to do it at all, but if I have to do it It has to be a way that protects my privacy.
>>109008298stop being antisemitic
>>109008256grooming gangs don't need iphones.
>>109011204Yes you figured it out, now face the wall please
>>109011175>In order to keep our users safe, we have partnered with security experts Blyat.ru (est. 2026, HQ in Tel Aviv) to scan the birth certificates of all our users and stop the bad guys
>>109011068>I had to verify my identity to look at 4chan after Apple's last update. If you refuse to scan a credit card because that's retarded, you can scan your driving licence like I did. It only asks for that, so you can actually scan anyone's driving licence. I might post mine and accept the doxxing just so everyone can use it to verify their iPhones and hundreds of people can all be identified as me.That's good. I don't think it's a crime to post your ID online and it would provide plausible deniability for anything you say.>>109009585It doesn't even have to go that far. Make buying smartphones under the age of 18 illegal, and make giving a minor a phone without entering in their birthday put liability on the one giving the phone.You could even just gate buying phones behind an age verify. Pick one up at the shops like you do alcohol and they just pre-enter your age when you pick it up.There are so many options that don't involve tying your real life ID to your digital devices. Even ZKPs are a good entirely software based approach with essentially no downsides. There's no legitimate reason for this technology to be rolled out in such a way that it harms people's privacy or anonymity.
>>109010959Same way they were fined by the EU. They threaten their ability to do business.Will they actually be affected by that threat? No, probably not. The UK would fold first, but also, do they have any incentives not to switch on the scanning? Also no.The fines are not really a big deal for them, but also, invading their users' privacy isn't a big deal either.
>>1090116264chen made them fold with an ai picture remember
>>109011068>his purpose is to be so bland that the newspapers can't attack him.This hasn't exactly worked out well lel
>>109008256the AI training data for that function is gonna be spicy
>>109011632I was thinking of that, though things are a little different here for both the foreign companies and the UK government as they both have more to lose, more to gain.The UK could wring more money from Google than they ever could from 4chan, obviously, but also, they would stand to lose a lot more from actually banning them, though I'm not sure if they would be banning just Google phones or all Android phones? Higher risk for Google and the government. Higher gain for the government, but not really seeing the potentially for higher gain for Google, maybe a reputation as upholders of privacy? It's PR that would serve them well, but maybe anyone they might reach with that is already against them. So that's why I think they might just do it anyway.Hard to know though. This stage is basically just the home office saying "please please please do it voluntarily because we don't want to be remembered as the people who put this into law pleeeeease" so obviously nothing will happen yet. Once they try to push it through legislation (if it goes ahead) will be when something might happen. Google has nothing to gain from folding voluntarily now rather than once they are legally required to.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-plans-to-stop-children-taking-sharing-or-viewing-nude-images>Companies must introduce these measures without threatening privacy or collecting any data. The device should simply block harmful content across all apps and services. Over-18s will still be able to view adult content by providing proof of age.Stupid fucking tech companies, it's so simpleif user = child { porn = off };
if user = child { porn = off };
>>109011632I require further context.
>>109011722>on a tech board>can't search the internet/g/ realy has fallen
>>109011153>n-n-nuh uhtry again, retard
>>109011867Its not corporation many of the age verification bullshit came from places without corpos its the government thats doing it.
>>109011870>implying meta isn't pushing this shit all over the place with their PAC moneySure thing kike
>>109008256They're not that spineless to cave to threats from New Pakistan... right?
>>109011068>>109009616See pic rel newfrens
>>109011704>buy phone>set up contract with carrier>still have to provide ID to "google" or "apple" (some other company will be handling it) in order to "prove" I am over 18
>>109013030Yep. Sure do. And I voted for it and will continue to vote for it. I am sick and tired of pedophiles. I will have an internet with adults.
>>109009811Windows 13 will have that feature as well, don't worry
>>109008356Just more feel good laws. Only thing politicians care about doing these days.
>>109013034You are more likely the pedophile.
>>109013093Grow up moron
>4 lines of text in OP>nobody actually bothers to read it>entire thread is screeching about a different topicI thought it’s all LLM replies on g nowadays, but it’s actually flesh-based 70iq subhumans?
>>109008298>>109008340>>109008256>>109010988>>109011181gentlemen, if you'd be so kind as to lend me your ears, and bear with me a moment:*clears throat*from the book of Epstein, chapter 6, verse 7."Art thou still speaking about Jeffrey Epstein? This fellow hast been spoken of for years.Do men still talk of this man?This fiend?Unbelievable.I, yes, I, am in disbelief at your inquiry into Epstein at such a time as this,when we’re being visited by the spirit of fortune and success,though, not withstanding, tragedy does not elude us, with the events that have transpired in Texas.It just seems like a desecration."amen.thank you for your time.carry on.
>>109013096The loudest often turn out to be the perps.See it happen all the time.
>>109013161Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything. You are an anonymous poster on 4chan.org. You don't have any credentials here. Your opinion means fuck all. You don't know me and I don't know you, so stop trying to make inferences on my character because I support legislation to hold people accountable for the shit they do online (to an equal standard, not a one-sided one)
>>109013161anon, leave the pedophile alone, he's learned his lesson.
>>109008689>>109009274It says> for childrennot> of childrenSo seems like they don't want "children" to see "nudity." Putting quotes there cause these are pretty vague terms and the actual details could vary a lot.
>>109013034>I voted for it and will continue to vote for itWhy you post on 4chan?Why you circumvent face scan?
>>109008356>don't both Google and Apple already scan your personal images and compare the hashes to known cpOn their online services (Google drive/photos/iCloud) yesThey don't scan stuff stored locally on your phone, but I'm sure these authoritarian freaks would love to start scanning your stuff for wrongthink
Children should be banned from viewing nudity so they do NOT understand what is happening to them when they are raped by immigrants.
>>109008256kek, I forgot about this cesspool island, though it was a paki dump now and no real human lived there anymore, guess I was wrong...
>>109008256Why hasn't anybody done anything about this Starmer fellow?
I hope they enjoy having all this tech used to find and remove brown people once the right wing parties they set up get power.
>>109018271This works because 4chan has no business presence in the UK. Apple and google make billions of dollars from UK customers.
>>109009585make children illegal
>>109018316yes. parenting license.
15 year olds downloading porn or taking nudes of themselves is a made up problem, but nobody wants to openly admit that it doesn't fucking matter so it's effective propaganda to keep the narrative focused on the wrong issue.
>>109018487well for one thing people from the UK arent human and literally believe the government always knows bestthey literally dont want to complain, if anything theyre on board with this so that 15 years have more sex, a population decline psyopbut they definitely cannot come out and say they support teen sex
>>109008298cool it with the antisemitism, pal
>>109018487I've actually seen a lot of this shit advertised on teh dark web. Dumb kids really do dumb shit for attention, then end up in trouble. From what I've seen it looks like they are getting hooked by threats that everything will be published, so they take more and more photos and such.And eventually this scheme would hit a wall. Idk, but I assume some big shot might be mad about his kids ended up in that mess or something like that. That often leads to irrational stuff.But you know, this is a very wholesome story, based on ugly reality. I don't know what is actually happening. Could be the opposite of that. Like some politicians that were on good terms with Epstein are trying to build themselves a reputation so that when more shit is leaked and declassified, they would look like a person who "would never" and all that. That is irrational bs out of fear.Another thing is info war. The entire sharade around these laws might be irrelewant. It is simply due to bots being able to generate same shit as humans and try to manufacture public opinions all over the world. Picture a situation where 10 million bots operate in a niche social network segment where people from Macedonia hang out or something like that. When there are more bots trying to influence public opinion than there are people in the country. And bots do not need to ear or sleep. They can shitpost 24/7.There's your bio ID required by law. To confirm you're a human.
>>109008256Call me a corpo shill (I'm not) but history has shown me that the tech companies do not actually want to do any of this. Like people keep saying google is doing this or that to get your data. My neegar. You post all your information freely. This just makes more liabilities for the tech companies. Now they may try to take advantage of the situation when forced to do this. But they would rather not. Same shit as coppa and made for kids on youtube. Everyone cries and blames yourube for it. Youtube spent so much time fighting it, trying to make users aware of the ftcs attempts and getting public sentiment on their side. Only for no one to care. They paid the largest fine in ftc history and weren't even told what they needed to do to solve the problem. They had to come up with it on their own, submit it for approval. All instances of violations would also cost over 40k PER instance. Governments do not and will never understand technology.
>>109018547>Dumb kids really do dumb shit for attention, then end up in trouble. From what I've seen it looks like they are getting hooked by threats that everything will be published, so they take more and more photos and such.yeah why go after people threatening children when we can blame the tech companies who literally couldny be any further removed from the dark webwho are you and why do you spend so much time in shady places?
what fucking loaded language If the world IQ wasn't below 60 and normies were able to critically think, they might go>HMMMBut they don't
>>109008256>UK
>>109018691> go after people threatening children Good luck with that, those faggots are either some of the most paranoid crypto anarchists out there, or very retarded win7 users who live like bums, move from place to place, do drugs and local corrupt police "fails" to arrest them, every single time they have a chance to do so.> who are you Infamous hacker, you probably heard of me.> why do you spend so much time in shady places?No reason. Every place on the internet is shady and vomit inducing these days.
Orwell tried but he didn't account for a <70 IQ population so soon.
>>109009680the corporations will never do this they will cuck and it's coming to you soon
>>109008298you're kidding?The PM is famous for protecting their most infamous pedos personally
The UK is a fucking cancer I'm angry that Hitler didn't finish them off when he could
I emigrated from the UK but I know one day I'll have to go back and the prospect genuinely terrifies me.
>>109018284Ultimately they will be forced to:a) partition their platform into effectively two totally incompatible products. b) choose between the uk (lol) and the entire rest of the world.
Why not just nuke UK
>>109019770The Irish are currently working on it
Genuine question. Is it worth "de-googling?" I have considered it ever since I tried to sign up for a Gmail on PC and it required a phone number. Just a hard requirement of a phone number to make a fucking e-mail. I got around it by getting on my phone where it simply did not prompt this at all. It just let me make the e-mail without a phone number. So here's my question. Do I just use a gmail without a phone number or switch to proton mail? What Google services do I even NEED anyway? You can't make a youtube account without a google account can you? But do you even need one? And google play store is all sloppa isn't it? So I guess I'm just realizing Google doesn't even offer anything you need? I don't need google drive or any of that shit. A part of me just can't accept using something that wants to cram a phone number requirement down my throat. I will never use any service that forces me to have a phone number.
>>109018561That's cause you can just bribe politicians and call it lobbying to get your way, even if these were technologically literate politicians they would still push for these measures because some dipshit bribed them for their own agenda.
>>109008256stop selling smartphones in the uk.people don't have their 'games' anymore and focus on the politicians.i'm not sure "the uk" thought this true. maybe start rounding up the gangs that actually rape kids? just a thought.
>>109008424The best part is that they already do that. They just don't tell you they do.
>>109009651Because the Epstein psyop has beefed up the moral panic to unprecedented levels and it's a perfect vessel to advance the police state as almost nobody dares to oppose it when it is framed as child protection and everyone disagreeing can be attacked by calling them with various names.
>>109009752Other nations are just waiting for them to pull it off first and then force their KOSA's and Chat Controls to pass, just as happened with Australia introducing social media restrictions to under 16's and now every politician in every country foaming out of their mouths to do the same in their respective countries.
People seriously think they aren't already spying on everything you do at all times? If you have a cellphone, you're being tracked and watched and everything you say and do is being monitored.
>>109021731It isn't a reason to just give up and make them think it's ok.
nuke the fucking UK
>>109008298the UK government?1, but for unrelated reasons
>>109021229Well see this is also false. While it's true lobbying does help. You're saying there's another corpo outbidding google and meta and apple? Whomst? The truth is that the vast majority of lobbying is in thousands of dollars. If you think you can buy laws that affect billions with that little then you are crazy. Research shows the vast majority of laws are the will of the people. People of course can be subjected to propaganda
>>109011870The corpos want to prove that they have real, Human users and not AI bots, that's why they push for age verification.
>>109022795Meta are the ones doing it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47362528https://globalnews.ca/news/11542365/meta-app-store-age-verification/I don't know why they'd be retarded enough to torpedo their own industry, but they are
>>109023077Their industry is mass surveillance. Facebook is DARPA Lifelog rebranded.
>>109022576dear anon how about nothey still hang you in prison for nuclear bombing common wellfare?
China is freer than united kommunist island
>>109022887I just explained why that just isnt the case.
>>109025539which post?
>>109008256>t-this time we're for realkek
>>109008256>ukwhy are brits so cucked bros?
>>109008256>uhh hello billion dollar tech overlord please scan every file on my phone 24-7, thanks
>>109018271the UK and EU are the most raped places on earth. it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.