wayland has made all niche alternatives like xfce, lxqt, budgie, etc completely dead and worthlesskde is receiving all of the attention and development with valve now on boardgnome will soon become niche and unusedlinux is becoming more unified than ever and thats a good thing
I use dwm
not my problem, XFCE works on my machine
>>109024366>krashesno thanks, linux peaked with gnome 2
Gnome is seemingly much better for OLED displays and it’s hard to imagine another configuration of desktop GUI with more static elements on screen being better even on Micro LED displays when they launch or other display technology that doesn’t care.Even in Windows I am not sure why your desktop wouldn’t be just the wallpaper, maybe not #000000 black, with taskbar on auto hide and translucentTB installed using super to launch software or custom shortcuts. I’ve used Linux since probably 2005 or so in that area and the old interfaces like gnome 2 which is today mate and xfce were usable but it’s hard to see them as anything but wasted screen real estate on most displays. Similar to horizontal browser tabs always displayed, rarely optimal.I have not had any issues with Wayland though I think there may be some issues with vsync and latency iirc and whatever the compositor is called now on gnome 3 Wayland is locked down. Unclear if this is a result of Wayland or not but it does not support something like Beryl or Compiz outside of a garbage extension ecosystem. Still has my wobbly windows though soThinking on long time horizons is a good sign but I don’t see a regression in desktop interface on Linux absent societal collapse coming, it’s literally the year of the Linux desktop.
>>109024585but gnome still has that useless big black top bar
>>109024366Xfce and LXQt will always be relevant, comfy, and actively maintained.
>>109024366KDE is just LXQt after going full Super Size Me
>>109024366bspwm still works fine tho, weird thread op
>>109024532same bro, xfce is just comfy
>>109024596It does it’s not flawless and that’s how mine is configured or was as of last week, for me that generally means a couple of static elements there(clock which I definitely need to turn off) but the bar is black. Possible to hide it without having to modify the source? Have been effectively held in a degraded state as far as my ability to interact with my machine for a few years now as some title 50 nerds have me training algorithms for them with my fucking brain, an Air Force radar, and some backscatter analysis.
>>109024366alright, alright, I'll give wayland a try in 2030, is that okay?
>>109024366Alternatives can add wayland support or people can just use x11 desktops if they like, they function fine.t. kde enjoyer
>>109024366Finally!
>>109024485i too use dwm
The foot freaks need to fuck off linuxstop putting your fetish in my OS
>>109024366most of these niche dm/wm will get updated stop being a lil bitch
>>109024366sorry im not gay so I am using hyprland
>>109025953>im not gay>I am using hyprlandPick only one.
>>109024366LXDE is still king btw.
>>109024366Wayland shells are all the diversity you really need.
>>109025953i liked hyprland when i first tried it but the focus on eye candy definitely makes it gay
>>109024536KDE or GTFO. It's that simple
>>109024532xfce forever, I have it on a piece of shit 4GB netbook and on my main pc
>>109024366KDE won. Ebussi single-handedly ruined Gnome's reputation.
gnome4lyf
>>109026923Use case for a reputation? But see, he wouldn't be a meme if Gnome's issues weren't real.
>>109024366>gnome will soon become niche and unusedthe finest kope on /g/
Gnome is systemd only now, so it's trash.KDE for the GGEZ win
>>109024366the only thing i want for future wayland is better xfce and labwc.
>>109026152>XFCE or GTFO. It's that simplefify
>>109024366I can make xfce look like an old iMac. Can wayland do that?
>>109025867we still need a package system like android .apk files
>>109024366I don't give a shit, i WILL keep using x11 (though xlibre) and i WILL keep using xfce4. If in the (remote because xfce development is fuck slow) future xfce4 will drop x11 i will simply move to TDE, SonicDE, GNUStep, E17, Lumina, etc... or just whip a WM (like icewm) paired with a powerful file manager (like xfe) and still be happy on x11.So, i'm just not going to use wayland, ha ha, sorry no.
>>109024366Wayland will also make the Xorg Server obsolete too so no worries.https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayback/wayback
>>109025953>im not gay i am a faggot
>>109027315anyone shilling xfce is 100% running some potato piece of shit. stop forcing your garbage on people with actual machines
I am not using waylandI am not using kbloatI will keep using xfce/lxqt/lxdesimple as.
>>109024366how is lxqt dead and worthless if it's the only desktop environment that works with the best wayland window manager, kwin
list of actively maintained, widely available desktops and window managers:budgiecinnamongnomei3lxqtmateplasmaswayxfce
>>109028036I just want a DE that keeps the UX consistent between major releases, you're free to enjoy being at the whims of schizophrenic devs changing and breaking stuff every day ending in y.
>>109024366XLibre is in the process of being packaged for Debian thankfully, there's already an apt repo that I've been testing on Devuan with no problems.
>>109028489>Source: it was revealed to me in a dreamEvidence? There is neither an ITP nor an RFP filed for XLibre.
>>109028540My bad, there's only an unofficial repo atp: https://github.com/xlibre-deb/debianI was mistaken about the Debian packaging, just found some discussion of someone trying to get them banned and someone else defending the freedom of current and future Debian packagers to pull it into the distro, on a basis of the DFSG points 3&4.Idk what the packaging would involve, I may have a look at it later.
XFCE still works for me
>>109028036why is xfce bad? works fine on my overclocked gaming pcit doesn't have the latest RGB technology but it is water cooled
cool story bro but i use hyprland
>>109024366>gnome will soon become niche and unusedgoodhttps://woltman.com/gnome-bad/
>>109028788GNOME chads stay winning
>>109028788Bro can't read.
>>109024366>kde is receiving all of the attention and development with valve now on boardGood>linux is becoming more unified than ever and thats a good thingalso goodUnironically
>>109028894Many such cases
>>109024366>wayland has made all niche alternatives like xfce, lxqt, budgie, etc completely dead and worthlessI'm sorry to hear about your brain injury.
All the features of those niche desktops should be merged into KDE so we have a unified standard. In b4 that stupid comic.
I, too, am using Xfce. Also fuck Wayland, like seriously. After it started getting forced on my distro, I finally came to understand why everyone hates it so much. So much lag, so much fucking bugs. I used to have a perfectly stable system. I hope XLibre actually gets some wide adoption. Fuck these corpos trying to kill of X11 and making Linux worse across the board.
i still use openbox with tint2 and have "-wayland" in my make.conf
>>109026118Doesn't have to be eye candy. You can make your own minimal config.
>>109027657So.... .deb?
>>109024366>gnome will soon become niche and unusedI wish.
>>109024366>wayland has made all niche alternatives like xfce, lxqt, budgie, etc completely dead and worthlessI came into this thread and I saw gay
Wayland saved BSPWM's tree model from dying and gave us shit like MangoWM and Niri, not that bad all things considered. Labwc's ecosystem is also nicer than Openbox.
>>109024366COSMIC will become the de-facto Linux desktop in a year, so who cares?
>>109024366>xfcejust werks>gnome will soon become niche and unusedentirely GNOME's own doing