>buy Edifier MR3 due to price/recs>after extended power-on the volume knob stops responding>have to upgrade firmware (firmware upgrading for a fucking speaker)>firmware can only be upgraded through chinkshit phone app>app is 250MB (250 MB for a fucking speaker app)this is the last time i ever buy chinkshit, especially chinkshit that relies on software because chinksoftware always fucking sucks
>>109036329>that echo chamber of solid surfacesthats gonna sound like ass even if you spend $10,000 on speakers. soundproofing tiles will cheaply fix that
>>109036360i reduced the bass knob by -3db.originally it sounded boomy.although not gonna lie, i don't know what i'm doing.any recommended bass/treble settings?
>>109036392the boomy bass is caused by a bass trap in the corners of your room and desk. these things will easy fix that for a few $ and you can crank the bass levels back up
>>109036406>does nothing in your path
>>109036392just measure and carve out under schroeder freq using rewnot the stupid knob
>>109036406if you do that proper,you would end up with a butcher-shop looking setupmulti subwoofer + DIRAC ART was the meta last time i've checked it for the home use
>slept on q acoustic 3050c being $799 AUD for the pair>price went up to 2000they better go on special again, because they seem perfect for my set up, since i also value aesthetic, which i find a lot of $800 speakers dont have..
>>109036329>chinkshit softwarethey somehow manages to suck worse than something fully vibesloppedunironically the quality started to improve (but not by a lot) after ai
>>109036568its a shame, because not necessarily for speakers, but a lot of chinese company electronics are top tier (makes sense why), but the software is total grabage. fosi comes to mind with their half baked S3 thats got a lot of "coming soon" features
>>109036557>Q Acoustics is a British audio brand established around 2011 by its parent company, Armour Home, specializing in loudspeakers and home cinema systems. Developed by a European design team and manufactured in Chinatrash
>>109037443if you mean it do tell me more? i have a set of their 3010i in my living room and theyre pretty good. cant find anything else worthwhile at the $800 mark
>>109037556not the form factor but what about asciLab F6B?
>>109037567i don't think they're for sale in Australia
>>109036329>buys the cheapest entry model >from a budget chinese brand >uuuuh why muh user experience is so clunky
>>109039079there shouldn't be a user experience for the cheapest set of a cheap brand. they should have saved the money and just had every setting immutably fixed
Getting a T5s for my R1600TIII was a damn good idea after all
Found a matched pair of Polk SDA-1C loudspeakers for 50 bucks on marketplace. They came with the interconnect cable too. Would an old Yamaha M-80 power amp and C-80 preamp be a decent pairing with them? It's the only beefy amplifier I have available right now. Also have an Adcom GFA-535, but I thought that might be a little weak.
Just buy something affordable, built well and comfortable, then EQ it properly.There. You solved headphones.
Personally, for me, it’s Stax
OK bros I'm finally moving into a place where I'm going to have enough space to have a large desk capable of fitting both my display and some nice bookshelf speakers instead of my tiny Creative speakers which sound decent with EQ but have really nasty port resonances.Best affordable near-field speakers? Also, I hear that for near-field you want front-ported?Probably going to get JBL 305P MkII's for the new living room, but I hear they're not ideal for near-field.
>>109039656>Vintage array speakersOh boy the directivity plot on these must be gnarly. The spec says it's 90db efficient. It's a 6 Ohm speaker so There's really nothing to be worried about. Any amp pushing above 50w at 8 Ohm will do.
>>109036329Can I get a headphone/earphone recommendation, anons?First of all, I need to decide on a type, I'm considering one of these devices:1. TWS In-Ear Earphones with ANC2. Wireless over-ear headphones with ANC (closed-back)3. Wired headphones4. IEMI'm myself kind of preferring the "Wireless headphones with ANC" option, with intention to use it with my PC, my laptop and my (Android) smartphone. However, if you think that's a retarded choice, please suggest me a different option, or a combination of two options.Moving on, the requirements are as follows:>under 200 USD as it costs in the US, without accounting for sales (for each device)>if it has ANC, it should be reasonably good for the price>generally I would prefer if it didn't leak much sound for everyone to hear>regarding what I listen to, I usually just watch videos on YouTube, maybe watch a movie, play some music (not any particular genre)>regarding previous equipment, just some $15 no-name wired in-ear earphones, no complaints really, other than that they last only one year and other than that I feel like my ears are getting tired of having something in them now, although this wasn't a problem ever beforeI've also found some options from various slop websites, sorry I don't know much about audio, but tell me if it all sucks or not>1. Soundcore Space Q45>2. Soundcore Space 2>3. Sony WH-CH720N>4. JBL Live 770NC>5. JBL Live 780NC>6. Sennheiser Accentum (not Plus)
Buying the SR-404 sent me down a rabbit hole
>>109039909its an objectively retarded choice but you shouldnt care about what other people thinkif its good for you its good, just get what you wanti used to have a set of bose anc headphones and it just wasnt for me, its annoying having to keep it charged and anc isnt actually a feature i ever really truly cared aboutafter i just went with passive isolation only, i love the hd 300 profor earphones i like the etymotic research ones
I still stand by this, haven't changed a thing; ACTUAL ENDGAME:https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108175800/#108176096
https://www.avsforum.com/https://www.audiosciencereview.com/Better resources than /g/ will ever be regarding audio
is this the right plae to post this or should i make my own thread? im looking for help on what is a good mp3 player to get. i just found out ipods have been discontinued and now that mine no longer holds a battery charge i want to get a new one but the only options are second hand used ones from like 10 years ago like mine with worn out batteries. obvoiusly apple did this because they want us to pay subscriptions for their streaming bullshit but fuck them. does anyone else make mp3 players? sony? what are my options
>>109041045/iemg/ has a section on music players, I believe.Alternatively, because iPods are popular again, I'm sure you can get a replacement battery for it.
>>109041045Used Sansa Clip+.The battery is not designed to be replaceable but is totally replaceable. Google this.Sansa Clip+ is Rockboxable (important because Rockbox has a parametric EQ) and objectively measures well. Its only sonic flaw is there may be a small amount of noise when using ultra low impedance transducers.
>>109041070>because iPods are popular again,They will truly rose tinted glass anything that was fucking garbage, wont they?Can't believe we also seem goyim buying wm-x walkmans for upwards of $700 because of stranger goys also, humiliation ritual>>109039915i want to try stax one day, but i don't know where to start, l300 seem to be pretty badly built and parts are expensive so i'll probably save up for 009's or 007s
>>109036329>>have to upgrade firmware (firmware upgrading for a fucking speaker)Ok, it probably does DSP so I get why the speaker would have software. DSP is cool.>>firmware can only be upgraded through chinkshit phone appNow that fucking sucks>chinksoftware always fucking sucksMy nigger in christ you're using gnome.
>>109040595>just get what you wantI don't know what I should want though. I do care about ANC, but more at home than outdoors. What do you recommend?
>>109042760Passive noise attenuation is much better than anc, get a pair of headphones that will do >25db on all frequencies instead
>>109042917Do you have any particular recommendation? I don't know what I should want for headphones in all other aspects
>>109042945Not really, good headphones all sound good, try some out and see what's comfortable, if it's just for at home you'll likely get a better, more durable and repairable set of headphones by buying a set of wired ones, wireless is great when you're not at your desk thoughI think the better situation is generally wireless earbuds for when you're moving around, wired headphones when you're sitting down For me, repairability, availability of parts, passive attenuation, and comfort when the weather is hot are the most important things, so that cut down what was really suitable for me considerably, and then what was actually comfortable to wear on my head cut down the list to almost nothing, so instead of recommending specific headphones because we have different priorities, I'd encourage you to try some on in a store and see what's comfortable because that's at least something that's important to us both
>>109042995>good headphones all sound goodBut how do I know if the headphones are good?>do >25db on all frequenciesWhat headphones match that
I currently have a pair of voll P44 which are like meh tier but alright, looking at getting the matching sub for $250 aud, wondering if anyone has bought one or has thoughts on it.does this seem like a good sub for the price or should i save my money up for something else
>>109040750trvkeavsforum has semi professional/professional grade color management resources too
>>109039909how long do you use them per session?heavy headphones can get annoying.my sundara sounds better than my sennheiser, but since the sennheiser is much lighter i tend to choose it 9 out of 10 times when i need headphones.
I see some people say headphones are better than speakers, but i disagree, a proper speaker setup which is about the same as a pair of good headphones, when paired with a listening room is far more immersive. not to mention less fatiguing
>>109043389this has always been the casebut that speakers get exponentially expensive because it involves the whole room, not just your head and ears
>>109043395indeed, i think both have their snakeoils though. speakers do increase in price with room size, since you may need to acoustically treat a room but its really not that bad. i think ive been burned with really bad headphone choices as a teen as well. XB900 and m50, however, i really loved my KSC75. as you can see i dont go for expensive headphones, yet my speakers are similarly priced and quite nice
>>109043422for me, getting into speakers realized me that how well made hd600 is and how worthless expensive options can belike, i would say hd800s is pure ass
>>109043435i agree, definetly some options are made for like a pipeline effect "oh i own these, so surely the more expensive option is better, i should upgrade"
>>109043435>made hd600 is and how worthless expensive options can be>like, i would say hd800s is pure asshd 600s are good but they don't hold a handle to most decent planars let alone hd 800s, but if you listen to jungle beats and trash they are torture devices
>>109043579too much bass?
>>109043389Speakers start mogging headphones above $100. Only people living with their parents say otherwise. Not counting obvious headphone use cases like noise isolation and using them outside which audiophile headphones can't do either.
>>109043588you can eq the hd 800 to sound like an hd 600 with all the insane spatial effects, the opposite isn't true. Planars can have too much bass obviously the audezes are super dark but hd 800 for some genres are really not a good idea, it's probably why they are so controversial to some groups, but even then some people are obviously just going to have different tastes within a genre>>109043637speakers are cool and all but dealing with them sometimes is so tiresome, most of the good vintage stuff has some weird tweeter that just dies for literally any reason, and repairing is sometimes impossible because tools are gone like energy 22 unless you pay some total nigger to do it for more money than the speakers are worth how much some boomers pay for speakers always impresses me though, some of the entry boomer shit will be $5k and they constantly try and resell it where i live, one guy has marked the same cube speakers sold 12 times now
>>109043637i guess the other pro is you can wear them on the go, but when im in the uber i dont really feel like wearing headphones, and i never catch public transport
>>109043652>how much some boomers pay for speakers always impresses me though, some of the entry boomer shit will be $5k and they constantly try and resell it where i live, one guy has marked the same cube speakers sold 12 times nowtheyre the people that fall for the snake oil. on that note amps are comical, i swear theres no difference between some rando fosi and an equivalently specced $1000+ amp, theyre all class D at the end of the day, just have balanced input to avoid hiss
>>109043652>you can eq the hd 800 to sound like an hd 600 with all the insane spatial effects, the opposite isn't true. Debunked https://youtu.be/JVW53wmo-04tl;dw headphone FR measurements are shit but there's nothing headphones do that isn't in the FR.
>>109043652>>109043435 here, speakers themselves aren't really important beyond having a decent measurement imo but the room and DSP are the real important part>insane spatial effecti think i just prefer the simplicity of having an half decent approximation of ideal speaker environment in the tone balance by hd600 over EQing hd800simo the real problem with hd600 is the bass rolloffif i go all the 'tism of BRIR/HRIR measurements
Oh yeah speaking of speakers (lol) i cant wait to get set up in my new place, it has the perfect arrangement for audio (rectangle room, slanted ceiling, hardwood floors (not tile), properly air tight rooms so theres not much leakage of sound to annoy the neighbours). all i need is a heavy rug, couch, maybe some standing acoustic panelling idk about that last one though because acoustic treatment of a room always looks bad
>>109043955checked, and i recommend multi-subwoofer setup + dirac art4 subwoofers in its full glory
>>109041605>l300 seem to be pretty badly built and parts are expensive so i'll probably save up for 009's or 007sL300 is great acoustically, the only reason why I did not get them is having too little space for my big ears. Although 3D printed spacers would have solved the issue. SR-X1 are also very good despite being cheaply built. Not a big fan of 007 and 009 series, although 009D are fine, but I still would pick L700mk2 over them. These lambdas are the equivalent of an acoustic microscope with absolutely insane resolution and speed I have never heard anywhere else, but at the same time avoiding being sibilant.
>>109043960>dirac artit requires specific av receivers?
>>109043993yeah, or you can use a pc
>>109044001>or you can use a pcoh neat, i didnt see that option on the site
>>109044101oh wait no sorry i dont think it's available on pc
>>109043314>how long do you use them per session?I basically use them all the time I'm at home. Outside of home, I don't really listen to anything almost ever.
>>109042760already gave you plenty of advice, including my recommendation for wired passive isolated headphones and earphones AND objectively the best price to performance open backit really doesnt matter which wireless headphones you buy because they all sound like shit so they all need eqif you want me to tell you what to get, just buy the snoy xm4 if you so desperately want anc + wireless
Topping D10 or Fosi ZD3?
>>109045156whichever with better software support, desu
>>109045165neither need software? its just for keeping the audio chain balanced from my laptop
>>109045402>keeping the audio chain balancedIt does nothing for home audio
Not sure if I should get a sub or not have the genelec 8030c right now. I think there fine but can't ever get rid the itch.
based toolepilled thread
>>109045441elaborate, i hear it removes hiss and that laptops are a bad source
>>109045402ever tried four in series 8ohm loudpeaker at computer analog line outs anon, me neither anon...
>>109045517ngl i dont know what youre talking about
>>109045513Only if you are using bottom of the barrel noisy gear to begin with then it could work as a bandaid solution I got zero background noise on jm-20 connected to a laptop
>>109045952in that case what is the purpose of dacs like the ZD3 im confused because (ai) and people online seem to say i need one
>>109045967Some headphones may require more power to achieve desired volume levels and close to zero output impedance is needed for multidriver IEMs, but this has nothing to with whether it is balanced or not. Besides that it is selling a solution for a problem which doesnt exist for 99.99% users, just like selling gluten and lactose free products as something better to people without digestion issues.
>>109045967you dont really need a sophisticated dac let alone an audio interface really if you dont need the software and some input capability comes with it>you need it (?)some really need it, some get genuine placebo(good for them)but i think it is mostly about setting the competent overkilll blank state you can trust
Buy an iem
>>109043073hd 280hd 300 pro
>>109046127outputs used to have crazy high output impedance which meant crazy high impedance headphones so theyre impedance matched nowadays everything is less than .1 ohm and its not a problem anymoreimpedance was NEVER about loudness
>>109036329Does Sennheiser suck nowadays? Especially after acquisition?
headphones are bloat.
>>109047941i fucking hate them too.
>>109046662but it isyou have low qtot that you want to drive as butterworth or 1.2 add impedance
>>109046780I don't think they've launched any new products yet and their existing ones are still good
>>109043131oh also on this note, how do i connect this to my pc? should i just get a new amp that has sub out as well? or do i use some sort of rca splitter cable?
Bros, what is the "correct" open source solution for multi-room on demand audio?I want to play X from Y device in Z roomI don't even really give a shit about synchronising them to all play the same thing, but that would be handy
>>109051633what does your hardware chain look like?
>>109051805Nothing relating to audio at the moment - can be whatever works. Software side: homeassistant, jellyfin, etc
>>109052158ah i see, i researched this a lot and i came to the solution that a dedicated pc works best, but the other option was upnp serverseg., https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gerbera
What is a heapdhone DAC amp I can just buy and never have to think about DAC amps ever again
>>109052515cheap atom ones
>>109052515jds labs element 4 if you want to splurge
>>109037443even wharfedales are made in china now man, it's pretty hard to avoid unless you're willing to spend literal car money on a set of speakers
Where are people getting earmuff replacements for HD600/6XX? Mine's all fucked up after three years.Also are FiiO K7s good bang for my buck? Driving 600 and IEMs.
>>109052515doesn't exist
>>109052986just get the official ones from sennheiser again, anything else sounds worseprobably. for iem use just check if the noise floor is low enough
Why bother with headphones or speakers when IEMs exist?
>>109053529Speakers are the only thing that can give you a real stereo sound stageI agree headpos are obsoleted by IEMs entirely
>>109053529do you know that the holy grail of audio is wavefront synthesiswhich is a thing for speakers
>>109054265Headphones are way less fiddly and more comfy than IEM's thoughbeit, just smack a pair of cans on your head and you're off to the races. No need to fiddle with the right fitment, ear hooks and all that whenever you put them or or take them off.
>>109053529They are only good if you're maxxing price/performance ratio. If you can and are willing to spend more money it wouldn't take long to realize how much better a pair of good openbacks is, let alone a proper speaker setup. Bonus points if it plays down to 20Hz and you are listening far field in a good room.
>>109053529Earwax
What the fuck did just happen here?That part should not be under any stress, nor did I ever drop it. Plastic just cracked out of nowhere.FT1 Pro btw.
>>109057371That's what we call fiio'd. In absolute awe how this company is still around.
>>109057371CHINK'D
Why the fuck hasn't anyone cracked Dirac yet?It's literally $800 a fucking non-transferable software license
>>109057371It's called chinesium, what you're seeing is it's natural state Also >wow this is so cheap>surely this means it's the same quality as the more expensive things it's trying to copy
